#because that is ivan

[qqueenofhades]

Can we talk about Ivan being the Grumpiest Gay to ever

#ivan kaminsky #listen #i love him SO MUCH #he is literally me #we need more middle aged grumpy gays who fucking hate everyone in the world except their sunshine s/o #and generally want to burn it all down #and not be pestered by idiots #because that is ivan #i am ivan #ivan is me #the end #mearcatsreturns #ask

[shakingparadigm]

I. I drew this before ROUND 6. good to know it was relevant after all.

#it sat in my program for a while because i honestly didn't like it #alnst #alien stage #alien stage ivan #alnst ivan #my art

[crustyfloor]

Whenever Till sings about mizi and or needing her I notice that he always imagines her child self..

I think it's honestly because he's scared of actually seeing Mizi and how she ended up after all these years, because she isnt that child anymore.

he idealizes the child who saved him from spiraling when he was younger and gave him a reason to keep going through the pain of being in Alien stage. He idealized what Mizi used to represent, a sweetness and flowery purity that is rare in the world he lives in. so he clung to it life a lifeline because she WAS his lifeline, but he has yet to recognize the Mizi who has changed so much from when she was a child. I hope Till has an open-eyed moment when he sees Mizi again not as the child she once was but as the woman she is now. I feel like that'll have a much-needed impact on his character development.

#alien stage #qmeng #vivinos #alnst till #alnst mizi #This also links in with why he's not able to properly “see” Ivan either. when he sees Mizi its an idealized version #Ivan has been the same since he was young #When Till looks at him he sees his reality and also a person whos not at all as pure as Mizi but was still there for him when she wasnt #thats not a truth hes able to admit yet because he's still greatly attached to mizi #he might even feel like hes disregarding her impact on him

[shinkuten]

#ivantill #alien stage #alnst #alien stage ivan #alien stage till #art #i hate them #i have depression because of them

[chiisana-lion]

and not just a palette swap but a funeral's black in his grief for the presumed dead mizi and a wedding's white for the short moment he could finally embrace his beloved. btw

#alternatively: ivan dressed in white because corpse. anyways #im normal. #duck rants about something #ivantill #alnst #alien stage

[cloverandstuff]

Wouldn't it be funny if, when Round 7 happens and Luka does the weird hallucinate thing, that Till sees Mizi for most of it but slowly it starts to center around Ivan?

Wouldn't it be funny if Till looks utterly hopeless when he hallucinates Mizi but then he hallucinates Ivan, seeing his corpse and just fucking lunges at Luka?

Wouldn't it be funny that Mizi's life made him fight, and Ivan's death is what makes him fight again?

Wouldn't it?

#alien stage #alnst till #alnst ivan #ivantill #wouldnt it be so funny? #if the only reason Till could care is because he lost everything and Ivan was the last of those things?

[purrfectlycontent]

till’s pupils reflecting red only when he’s looking directly at ivan

#my ramblings #all the little details they put in #the metaphors with the red and the shooting stars #it makes me wonder if part of the reason why they specifically chose these scenes is because of freedom #the first scene being ivan and till escaping from anakt garden #the second being death. the ultimate freedom from alnst #and there’s that whole thing with an eye (with black lashes looking like ivan’s) being injected with something red #sorry. i’m still not over this #in fact i have more questions #alien stage #alnst ivan #alnst till #ivantill

[dapperrokyuu]

Yaoi won today (congrats, Ivan) but also lost (alien homophobia).

#dee p thoughts #alien stage #alnst #vivinos #youre telling ME with tills shitshow of a performance ivan LOST? it can only be because of homophobia AJFKDKFKF

[urcaptainvrodani]

vivinos when i catch you vivinos

#no because #vivinos specializes in doomed yuri so the occasional doomed yaoi always catches me off guard #vivinos #alien stage #alnst #round 6 #all-in #alien stage all in #alien stage round 6 #doomed yuri #doomed yaoi #mizi #hyuna #sua #ivan #till

[sakuraluck]

lol confirmation that ivan didn’t see till hesitated before running back. do you think he would have died so willingly if he knew that there was a chance that till could’ve chosen him?

ivan’s the kind of guy to pine over someone for two decades with full knowledge that his feelings won’t be reciprocated. if he knew that till had hesitated back then, do you think he would’ve made a second attempt to escape before/during this round?

maybe… now that mizi’s out of the way…

that kind of thought?

do you think that kind of hope would’ve motivate him to try harder to live? knowing that somewhere in till’s heart, ivan had a space there too. and that if he died, he would also be giving him trauma like sua to mizi?

do you think till knew ivan smiled at him so gently and achingly soft before he died? that he let go of till of his own volition and not because he lost strength? or does he think ivan wanted to kill him at the end?

when he opened his eyes and saw ivan falling, do you think ivan’s smile confused him?

do you think he’ll be wracked with survivor’s guilt after this as well? wishing ivan had finished what he started and killed him. do you think till will realize how much ivan loved him even till the end or will he think that even the one person who cared for him eventually hated him?

#lol questions with no answers #musings with no meanings #because ivan is already dead and what ifs are useless! #what i need is a steel chair to hit luka with #and a restraining order against till’s guardian #bc once i figure out exactly why that alien was half-naked and petting till 👹👹👹👹 #ivantill #alien stage #alien stage ivan #alien stage till

[quietly00]

i love the part in round 6 where ivan goes “it’s ivan time” and then ivans everywhere (one sidedly makes out with his unrequited love and then fucking dies)

#ivan im kmsing because of you #alnst #alien stage #alien stage ivan #alien stage round 6 #quiet talk

[shakingparadigm]

Guardian Urak after ROUND 6 (his fuckass pet that he barely invested in beat another guy's overly-invested in pet)

#he dressed till in the most basic emo outfit and tossed him into the ring yelling SING BOY #yes he dgaf about the kiss. whatever it takes ig #this man literally keeps winning while doing the bare minimum #just because till is talented and is batshit crazy enough to put on a show even without fancy shit #/crazy shit keeps happening to till #guardian urak when till killed freddie: ayoooo #guardian urak when ivan kissed till: AYOOOOOOOOO #all he does is chain up till and toss him around and not give him anything good to the point where his clothes are the most casual ones #and till still comes out the winner somehow i bet that nasty fucker is laughing so hard watching shit go down #Guardian urak during an interview: yeah that shit was crazy. rip ivan. or whatever. thanks for doing that *waving around medal* #alnst #alien stage #alien stage till #guardian urak

[crustyfloor]

IVAN'S A FUCKING FUCKER FOR NOT EVEN CHOKING TILL PROPERLY HE WAS GENTLY HOLDING HIM IN PLACE

(it kills me because Till probably thought ivan was gonna give him one last out or something hence why he closed his eyes in what i feel like is acceptance)

#alien stage #alnst till #alnst ivan #ivantill #That motherfucker was NOT choking him #they cant even choke eachother fuckthem #TILL TOOK THAT SHIT BECAUSE HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA GET HIS ASS WHOOPED NO SIR YOU JUST GOT FUCKED ON STAGE #its genuinely so hard to tell if Ivan was actually choking him because Till wasnt struggling for shit #no gasp of air as he tried to breathe in #his necks a little pink but that could just be lighting #i dont fuckin know #massive cope btw i dunno what the fukk they were doing here #alien stage till #alien stage ivan #alnst

[ladystrangewh871169]

I waited for this moment knowing it would be my last

#alien stage #alnst #ivan alien stage #alnst ivan #till alien stage #alnst till #ivantill #alien stage fanart #alnst fanart #WTF WAS ROUND 6 #the edelweiss of my feelings that wilted because of ivantill

[princeash31-blog]

I'm sorry, I just really need to get this thought out, but what one of the reasons why I am so affected by Ivan's death is the underlying emotions behind it. It's been constantly shown throughout the narrative that Ivan was infatuated with Till, but the nature of their relationship was that Till had never noticed him.

I believe that Ivan was fully aware of Till's feelings for Mizi (mainly due to the comet scene in Round 3, where Till rejects the chance of freedom) and thus, he resigned himself to gaining the barest hints of Till's attention, even if it was negative, because he knew that he couldn't have anything more. He was content with what he could get and still chose to look after Till in the ways that he believed truly matter to him (freeing him from his bonds whenever he got the chance to).

Considering their background, it's likely that none of them were exposed to the concept of love and are now just relying on their own interpretation. Thus, it was probably hard for them to ever consider letting go of the ones they love because their own emotions were probably one of the few things that they could claim for themselves since they didn't have any anatomy over their own lives. Ivan was constantly reacting after Till's own actions (such as fighting back after Till punched him when they were younger or repeating the cheer up mantra), so when he noticed that Till was no longer singing he decided to take action that would keep Till from dying. He chose to sacrifice himself so that he wouldn't be confronted with Till's death.

Because, in the end, Ivan was always content with not receiving Till's afections as long as he could be around him in some other way. He crazed to have Till gaze upon him, but he could survive on his presence alone. If Till had died before him, Ivan would've lost a major part of himself. The aliens would've taken away the final thing that he had for himself. He would've died either way. Whether physically or spiritually. At least through his sacrifice, he was able to go out without having to witness the final downfall of the one he cares about the most.

#This probably makes no sense because I am severely sleep deprived rigt now. #Ivan's last smile at the end as he realized that Till will be able to live. #alnst #alnst ivan #alnst till #alien stage #I have some more thoughts but too tired #round 6

[switch]

i cannot believe i forgot to whip this old screenshot out during the ivan raid debacle

#need an edit of this thats just the ‘this is why traffic regulations are so important’ line for every time i see a mall crawler #ivan is so funny every time he shows up for a bit because he doesn’t really have a dead horse joke #fate #switch speaks