#being serious for 5 seconds

[i-make-fun-of-spn-characters]

I feel like Jack as a character is largely interesting/good, but the way people react to him makes me deeply uncomfortable. Like i guess you could forgive a teenager you never actually agreed to be in charge of for accidentally killing your mom, but i don’t think that should be a societal expectation. Like that’s Dean’s MOM, i don’t think Jack deserves to die obviously but why should Dean HAVE to forgive him? And the common defense that Jack is a literal baby (so he can’t be held responsible for his actions) is so weird bc… no he isn’t??? He literally isn’t a baby. And I’m okay with Dean forgiving him too, but it’s so weird that people act like it’s unreasonable to have any negative emotions about the person who killed your mom. And that’s not even getting into how many people blame Mary for her death when she did absolutely nothing wrong.

Yeah I agree with everything you said.

It is not fair to expect anyone to immediately forgive someone for killing their mom (or really expect that at all...). I would also add to this that the person Dean COULD not and WOULD not forgive...

was NOT Jack!!!!!!!

It was Soulless Jack, who cast the blame for what happened onto Mary and said it was "regrettable". So more disturbing for me than this tendency to treat Jack as a baby who isn't responsible for his actions... is this inability to see the distinction between the REAL Jack and Soulless Jack, when their differences are READILY apparent!! Jack—the real Jack—would NEVER have spoken to Sam and Dean about Mary's death the way Soulless Jack did. He would NEVER have hurt people because Dumah told him to—he would have thrown her into a wall in a fit of righteous rage and said "You're hurting people!" THAT is the REAL Jack!!! We see that we have the real Jack back when he comes back, and one of the first things he does is break down in tears and apologize genuinely for Mary. So when Dean can't forgive and he's full of rage in the aftermath of Mary's death... the person all that anger is directed at ISN'T Jack. It's a thing wearing Jack's face—devoid of the real Jack's strong moral compass and love for others which continuously counterbalanced his naivety and allowed him to parse when he was being manipulated and used by evil forces, tempered his anger, and made him who he was.

I do think part of what makes fans so angry with Dean is the lead up to this and how Dean and Jack interact in general since season 13... and some of that frustration is fair, but some of it also really... is not.

I've said before (in tags) on @dontfeedthestansaftermidnight that a lot of fandom interacts with Dean as a representation of love and belonging within the narrative instead of just as a human being. So it doesn't matter how [insert character] behaved toward him/what they did or how Dean's hurting or what's going on with him. He needs to be actively loving everyone all of the time—unconditionally—or he isn't doing his job. Only Dean's feelings need to be placed under a microscope and analyzed and judged because only his feelings (and how he displays them or doesn't) carry the weight of judgement and what it means to be loved and accepted.

Dean is kind of like... well—he's the doors and walls and windows of the Winchester family house, and he's the hearth, and almost everyone wants a piece of that warmth and that sense of belonging. This is especially apparent in the Carver era, but it ultimately prevails from the very beginning to the bitter end of the series—that Dean's love is kind of... different. It's tangible and transcendent, and it's wrought with some serious trauma that gives it sharp edges, but it's something truly special and even... coveted? What Cas said about Dean in that speech in 15x18 wasn't wrong at all—it was a testament to the power of Dean's love within the narrative.

So yeah—I think the reason we tend to see Dean judged for how he interacts with Jack isn't just because Dean is being a jerk sometimes, but also because of the power of his love specifically within the narrative, and what him specifically "rejecting" someone means to fans.

We all see Jack as a sweet kid, who deserves to be accepted, and Dean—the representation of love and belonging—really struggles to love him? Or at least in the way Jack (and Sam and Cas and most fans) would like—and that's... tough for people to accept. It makes them angry.

I think that Dean loves Jack and I think Dean believes that Jack is a good kid and I think that Dean believes that Jack deserves to be loved... but I also think there is something that makes it really difficult for Dean to give Jack the love everyone (including Dean!) would like Dean to to give Jack.

I personally think maybe Dean feels out of place in terms of how he's expected to love Jack (as a son) versus how he would prefer their relationship to look. Like—Dean taking Jack fishing when Jack is dying... to me it feels more like Dean giving Jack the thing he knows Jack really desires—the relationship he knows Jack really wants to have with Dean. I can't shake the feeling that for Dean, Jack brings up a lot of really traumatic things, and Dean knows that isn't Jack's fault (but that's hard to remember), but it also changes how Dean wants their relationship to be and the boundaries he wants to set. I think it's very significant that just one episode before Jack was born, Dean stood in Mary's dreams and told her that he had to be a mother and a father to his little brother and that that wasn't fair, and in the next episode, he loses Mary and Cas, and is saddled with someone else's child. Sam begins urging him to put aside his grief and accept a parenting role over Jack immediately. Dean's very first response to that is that he doesn't want to be Jack's mother. And I have to wonder... is that so unfair?

I think Dean has an obligation to treat Jack with decency and respect (and sometimes he fails to do this), but despite his place in the narrative and his transcendent love... Dean is actually just a guy—not the actual god of love... so while Dean's love and how it's viewed is really beautiful... it also isn't fair to Dean that these expectations of his feelings (which he can't fully control—only his actions can be controlled) are placed on him? And look—Jack isn't his son. He isn't obligated to be Jack's mother or his father and he isn't obligated to love him as a son. Dean wasn't the one who swore to love and protect Jack—that was Cas. Cas adopted him, and then immediately died, and... I don't even ship destiel, but not because I don't think there's something to it—there's some obvious implications here with what happened with Cas lying (again) to Dean and tricking (read: cheating) him right before all of this happened too—rejecting Dean's gift (the mixtape) and his request for them to work as a team in the process.

So Jack is like... well—he was literally designed by the writers to be a person that Dean would struggle to love. He represents pretty much every defining trauma of Dean's life. He represents Dean's parentification, the loss of his mother (twice), the abandonment of his father, the trauma of losing Cas over and over, Cas's secrets and betrayals, Sam and how he was unfairly and cruelly tainted from birth—slated for an evil purpose—and how Dean had to be the one to deal with that most closely (besides Sam himself). Jack also represents Dean—he is the child forced to grow up too fast, and that is also Dean (and this last one absolutely sets the groundwork for a lot of their interactions and similarities in terms of self-sacrifice and being weaponized).

Mary being blamed for her death is also gross and I don't feel any need to comment any further on that and all the problems in fandom that this relates to.

#being serious for 5 seconds #mail

[yashley]

I know, I understand. Parent shit is the fucking worst. 

#critical role #imogen x fearne #ygifs #imogearne #my two fucked up little ruidusborn girlies ♥️♥️♥️ #it's so nuanced and so good the steps these two take specifically in these grand vulnerable moments they know the other is experiencing #Even Six Years Is Too Long imogen Watching fearne's reaction to all of these revelations and Making a point to tell fearne she Can be Angry #cos it's like ooo babygirl you are going Through it being around parents like that you just said yall should HURT EM ALL #and fearne just unaffected being like I mean should we I mean we could go right now this second and do that #the Way fearne Tried to approach relvin and Tried to mind his coldness only to realize all the damage that imogen took from that and just #Not let him deflect against yet another question he doesn't want to answer and fearne being succinct and serious to this man is Just #maybe it's so infinitesimal but two quiet observational background castouts steppingforward and Speaking up for the benefit of the other I j #they give I Emancipated from my parents at 16 vibes and I could watch them being dicks to the other's parents for 5 hours

[doctorjennifermelfi]

marius: (has spent literally the last 80 pages alternately talking himself into and out of pulling the trigger to alert the police while future papa in law is being mugged by the shadiest people in all of paris, eventually doing neither of those things and doing something else entirely)

enjolras: i know just the guy i could send to convince the marbleworkers and painters to make up their minds, if only he were here

#none of you are serious people #les mis #unrelated but i love victor hugo’s bit of listing all of bigrenaille’s aliases when he mentions him #it’s so 1997 george of the jungle #also until 5 seconds ago i thought his name was big rene……….. #the joys of les mis on audiobook (idk if i have mentioned this yet) #i was literally typing “big rene” + “les mis” into google and being so confused when nothing came up #i felt like those taylor swift fans who got the cabaret voltaire vinyl must have felt #like did i get a special edition of the book that includes a minor character that is listed nowhere else? #no. bigrenaille.

[garnet-xx-rose]

I may give Love Never Dies shit, but I will proudly say with my whole chest that the London Concert was one of the best nights of my life

#phantom of the opera #erik/christine #love never dies #The image of Erik in “Box 5” watching Christine sing his aria and her reaching out to him will be burned into my brain for eternity #just absolute chaos in the worst best way #It was the how they tried to redirect the show to make the characters more dynamic and sympathetic and it worked #But also the book is just so frustrating #You have Celinde singing her heart out and Norm's Erik being a pleading mess begging Christine for a second chance #And she's not even unconvinced cause she already doesnt like Raoul she just wants to see how serious Erik is about his proposal #Also Gustave was such a firecracker like the perfect mix of E/C as an offspring #And Meg was so sad cause she wanted both Erik AND Christine's attention #Like she was more so jealous of Gustave than jealous at Christine and was tired of the people she looked up to not caring about her #But yeah they took the Baby Daddy Drama to the MAX which is what I think is the best part of the show so I was thrilled

[legofemme]

My problem is that i get really nervous when people younger than me do certain things and i want to help but i tend to overstep and keep adding more and more and become kinda. Overwhelming. So instead i dont say anything at all. I try 2 offer my advice when specifically asked to try and help but also people Dont ask so i sit here nervous as fuck all the time forever in spaces w minors saying Kind Of Concerning Things

#vani verbals #had a child tell me in full confidence that they dont have critical thinking skills like a month ago and if i think about it for more than 5 #seconds i spiral. you CANNOT not have that in todays society. im NOT being a pedantic writing snob. im being dead fucking serious #i also see hypervigilant teenagers going after people for a minor misunderstanding and its like for tje love of god youre going to ruin your #mental health if youre constantly trying to monitor 'problematic' wording in casual convos. #im so scared all the time but im doubly afraid of coming off as mean . but u gotta understand where im coming from

[kaiiscottage]

ε a bit late but happy birthday Mafuyu :]!! ♡ з

#I’m actually quite surprised on how fast I finished this drawing #it usually takes me like 4-5 days to finish a full drawing but this only took me 1 day #it kind of scares me ngl :3 #but anyway MAFUYU MY BELOVED #HE MEANS SO MUCH TO ME I LOVE HIM SO MUCH😭💝 #he’s literally my second favorite character of all time I’m dead serious when I say that he’s a peak character #with each year that goes by I find myself more and more attached to him a being able to understand his character more #as well as finding new things I like about him that I didn’t see before #idk why my brain choose this specific lil guy to get attached to but I’m not complaining he’s such a good character :”) #anyways I know he doesn’t have piercings or his nails painted but I added them bc I thought they look good on him❤️‍🔥 #and I also did his hair more sideways since I noticed Kizu has been drawing it like that for a while now :3 #also I did use for reference a lot of her illustrations for the colors and clothes specifically #i love Kizu’s art so much she’s such a big inspiration for my own art <3 #given #given anime #given manga #mafuyu sato #mafuyu satou #paint tool sai #artists on tumblr #small artist #the scrunkly!!!!! #digital art #my art #kaii art tag

[rutadales]

giggling over the notes on my skeppy cage post saying "oh it shows how dark and twisted cdream is that he dehumanized skeppy to such a horrific degree" girl it was never that serious u sound so silly

#root talks #dreblr #it was NEVER serious be so so fr rn #me: lore is funny #ctommy loreheads: Actually never is the dsmp a comedy everything is serious and gritty all the time and the fact you would imply otherwise- #I could make that post today and everyone would listen but when I made it back then suddenly I don't understand the lore #wait girl why am i getting tilted rn at 5 am over a post that was over a year ago #It was my like #Second post in the fandom and suddenly a bunch of people were being very rude to me all at once bc i made a joke #lord forbid

[spaceagebachelormann]

. everyone ignore this i just need to scream at myslef in the tags for a sec

probably gonna delete later

#IGNORE RHIS I JUST NEED TI SCTEAM FIR A SECOND #im so stressed but idk why #well actually it’s mainly because my phones broken and it’s stressing me out cause the battery goes down really fast #and like i can’t go on it for 5 mins without it dying #also i have AO MUCH schoolwork and it’s basically being thrown at me and that’s not helping #and like. i KNOW in everyone’s eyes i’m just the childish friend and everytime i try to be serious #they assume i’m joking and start laughing #and they kinda suck as friends rn in general #and i’m not happy in my house and i’m not happy at school and like i can’t be happy anywhere now and idk why #and like it’s terrifying 😭😭 #i hate not being able to feel at ease anywhere #i just wanna go into a coma and wake up in a world where everything’s fine #anyways uh #if i’m sad or not as active don’t be worried </3 #tw vent #ziggy fucking screams 🌷

[blairswldorfs]

There were literally a thousand ways to “handle” Emily Deschanel being pregnant in real life on the show and they went with the worst one???

#Gi watches bones #im really so mad this isn’t that serious but I’m so pushed #i just closed the tab halfway through episode 1 of season 7 bc of how mad I am #like at least show a little bit of how the relationship developed??? how we got from not being together at all to we slept together to we #are having a baby to we are a couple having issues about moving in together??! #i don’t even mind the time jump as much as the fact that there were ways to do it #without having the shift from not together to actual established couple in 5 seconds and without any scenes??? #like even the conversation with Angela abt bones and booth sleeping together happened off screen???? #bones #temperance Brennan #seeley booth #booth x brennan #brennan x booth #tv shows

[minamotoz]

in case you were wondering how my 2023 soy luna rewatch was going

#soy luna #lumón #i will be forever salty #its so🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁🙁 #i watched the scene with a pit in my stomach bc i knew what was gonna happen in the second half of my season #and i just AUGABRBRBRBRBRBRBRBRB #i cannot watch this show without it being tainted by the angstfest of s1B and even though thats what i signed up for #i love angst mmmmmm yummy taste y😋😋 #but now whenever i watch the show it feels like im 5 seconds away from a bomb going off like i feel legit DREAD #knowing whats abt to happen to my two splooikies who are in love #i knwo i sound stupid like girl its not that serious its a straight ship from a disney channel show that aired 7 years ago #but its that serious TO ME #i'll mever get over it ok goodnigtj

[i-make-fun-of-spn-characters]

For OOC season 8 Sam momemts...I feel like Sam should've been obsessed with either saving Kevin (to use some prophet bs storyline to open purgatory and help get Dean back) or Dean (then save Kevin, bc lbr that's more on brand). Either way, if Sam isn't obsessed with doing at least 1 thing per season, then what are the writers even doing?

AGREED. That man is always doing things. He is never sitting around not doing things. He is on at all times. He is going to school and making killer grades, or he is on a war path looking for his father and vengeance, or he is trying to save Dean, or he is trying to save the world, or he is hunting like a machine (even WITHOUT a soul) or he is on the fuckin case... then season 8 happens to him and just what the FUCK.

Also like. LOOK at his face at the end of season 7 when Crowley disappears Kevin right in front of him then go straight to 8.01 it is thee most jarring transition in the world.

#season 8 sam #mail #being serious for 5 seconds #I actually think not doing anything for kevin is even more ooc than leaving Dean and Cas in Purgatory but NONE of it makes sense #you are right I think tho it would literally be more on brand for Sam to use Kevin in a fit of desperation than to completely abandon him #there are episodes suggesting Sam when desperate enough will use people #even though that is cetainly not imo a defining part of his character he has been driven to it before #like the dead kid in the reaper episode #the woman in season 4 who was possessed who he bled out #the woman in The Werther Project #Lester in season 10 #like I would literally rather see that Sam than whatever this podman was

[thelightofthingshopedfor]

a coworker recently complimented me by saying I’m calm under pressure, which

a) thanks, but also b) lol. lmao, even

#no this isn't an ADHD thing #this is a 'you have no idea what the inside of my head is like' thing #it's a 'thanks that's the anxiety and maybe trauma' thing #my boss has described me--more than once--as 'zen' #which is....... #I probably don't need to explain why that's funny #yeah I'm so zen I have constant headaches and neck pain and also digestive problems #I barely know how to relax #I can't sleep #I'm on 5 different brain meds #I haven't seen a therapist in months because I have some serious frustrations with mine BUT I keep second-guessing myself about them #AND finding a new one is overwhelming #hell I don't really do much of anything because it's all overwhelming #I try to be polite and diplomatic because I'm actually still a little kid who's terrified of being yelled at #only this time with worse consequences #reading the news fills me with helpless rage #I actually think my mental health is getting worse and not better #but yeah sure I'm zen

[infizero]

im going fucking crazy im going to bite someone’s head off kris and noelle deltarune making my brain fucking melt

#i make a post like this like 5 times a month anyways I NEED DELTARUNE CHAPTER 3 RIGHT FUCKING NOW. IM SO SERIOUS #i cannot think about this shit for more than 5 seconds without being filled with a desperate longing for new content #and the problem is I FUCKING THINK ABOUT THIS SHIT ALL THE TIME!!!!!!! #undertale and deltarune are the one thing that no matter WHAT im currently fixated on that shit is instantly my number 1 priority #like with other stuff i'll be like ooh that thing i like cool :) when its not what im currently fixated on #but it does not fucking matter WHAT the current brainrot is if theres any speck of utdr content im instantly there #even when it comes to shit that is not new at all. even if its just me seeing a piece of fanart or something #it sends me into a spiral every fucking time #i dont even remember what caused it today T_T #nothing will EVER make me as fucking crazy as utdr im so serious like. god. this shit is like crack for ambigiously neurodivergent ppl /hj #i could literally watch 5000 videos restating the same secrets and lore connections and shit over and over and over and i'd be happy #and yet theres somehow STILL things i dont know about like thats what rlly makes this shit so awesome is that there is somehow always more #undertale esp like it still awes me just HOW MUCH SHIT is in this fucking game. not even just content wise but in terms of like story #connections and all that shit #all the different unique neutral endings all of the extra dialogue and shit you get on repeat playthroughs and just #everything #and then w deltarune its awesome bcuz there is SO MUCH SHIT but.... its not finished. so unlike w undertale where theories are all more #after the fact stuff. deltarune its like you get to actually try and predict stuff ITS SO AWESOME #anyways if i dont get to see these characters have new little interactions and go on a silly little adventure full of charm and Themes that #has some O_O shit under the surface I WILL FUCKING EXPLODE!!!!!!!!!!!!! GAHHHHHHHH I CANT FUCKING TAKE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!! #serena.txt

[thotfrnk]

mdzs stans are still having this fuckass golden core discourse, even god rested!!!!!!

#i swear these people read the novel w their eyes closed bc in no way jc manipulated wwx to feel guilty and do the gc transfer #oh my fuckinggggg god please learn how to read. develop some reading comprehension. ANYTHING #i genuinely believe if u read jc's sacrifice in bad faith ur just being stupid on purpose #if jc hated wwx he woulda just leave him to die like why would he even go outta his way to distract the wens #like think about that... rub those last two brain cells together and think for more than 5 seconds abt that #emily.txt #yall see a traumatized character act traumatized and called them manipulative like be so fucking serious rn