#big red x ashlyn

[redlyncentral]

you know what? Making the two bisexual cast members act as two queer characters (one of which who identifies as bisexual) who cheat on their respective partners with each other is so messed up on so many levels.

#hsm the series #high school musical the musical the series #redlyn #seblos #hsmtmtsspoilers #big red redonovich #big red #big red x ashlyn

[ashlynredonovitch]

Not thinking of the cheating storyline because if feels SO OOC to me. The two, at one point in the series, healthiest relationships in the show, cheated on each other? It does not feel like something Big Red and Seb would do to their SO’s. At. All.

It’s just not in their written characters and how much they devoted their characters to the other that they would cheat. Not mentioning that canonically it doesn’t make any sense with the plot line of s3. You’re telling me Big Red told Ashlyn she was his world after he just cheated on her? I like Madlyn, I think Julia and Saylor work fantastically together, but it feels like they gave up on Big Red the second season 3 started.

Same with Seb, those boys are DEVOTED to each other. It does not make for him to cheat on Carlos. And the whole “I cheated so I hoped you did too, to cancel them out” feels like encouraging cheating. The whole thing feels off.

I am finishing up editing Redlyn stories I wrote even though I know they are not canon anymore, but I put too much work and time into them to let them sit in my storage. ❤️

#redlyn #ashlyn caswell #big red redonovich #big red x ashlyn #hsmtmts #seblos #carlos rodriguez #sebastian #seb #madlyn

[your-mums-nuts]

Things I want in hsmtmts s4!!

- Ashlynn and Ricky beef!! Those two would be good for a little drama! Her with the whole Ej thing and him with the whole Big red thing (depending on if there’s gonna be some emotional cheating with maddox)

- Ricky and Gina being disgustingly gross and in love

- a bit of a side note but if they try bring more drama in their relationship I will literally riot, maybe stressing about college or the musical or sm but there’s just so many other places we can get the drama from!! Why give it to Gina and Ricky?

- speaking of drama, if they HAVE to bring the love triangle back, have it be with Maddox, Ashlynn and big red

- Jett being ridiculously in love with Kourtney and getting Ricky hounding him about it

- let’s put think “Gina 1.0” thing to rest Fr, like Nini retaliated?? It’s fine now?? Why even bring it up??

- Ricky saying I love you first and Gina saying “oh” (but saying it back eventually)

- #givekourtneyandcarlosmorescreentime

- Ej in his healing era!! Maybe even him and Gina both apologising to eachother for how their relationship ended and being friends again!

- bi Gina and Ricky confirmation because I said so

- Gina/Maddox and Ricky/Jett bestie era

#hsmtmts #rina #Gina porter #ricky x gina #ricky bowen #kourtney greene #big red x ashlyn #ashlyn caswell #Ej caswell #jet hsmtmts #maddox #hsmtmts s4

[not-so-incorrect-hsmtmts]

Big Red: The moon is beautiful tonight. Ashlyn: It sure is. Ricky: Should we tell them it’s just a tortilla you threw on the window? EJ: Shh.

#big red redonovich #big red #big red hsmtmts #ashlyn caswell #ashlyn x big red #big red x ashlyn #redlyn #hsmtmts #incorrect hsmtmts #incorrect quotes #high school musical the musical the series #ricky bowen #ej caswell #elton john caswell #rj #caswen

[jamazzilblog]

HEAR ME OUT

#hsmtmts #hsmtmts season 3 #hsmtmts s3 #ashlyn hsmtmts #ashlyn caswell #big red x ashlyn #maddox x ashlyn #big red hsmtmts #big red #maddox hsmtmts #ashlyn x maddox

[bigrashlyn]

they're so in love i cant 💘💘💘

#ashlyn caswell #redlyn #hsmtmts #hsm the series #big red x ashlyn #big red

[measuresderepo]

Something something red means love

#it’s kinda bad but I put some work into it so… #hsmtmts #big red x ashlyn #big red #ashlyn

[behold-the-brave-battalion-17]

Ashlyn: How did you break your leg?

Big Red: Do you see those porch stairs?

Ashlyn: Yes.

Big Red: I didn't.

#ashlyn caswell #big red redonovich #redlyn #ashlyn x big red #big red x ashlyn #hsmtmts #hsmtmts incorrect quotes

[shegoeshometoacactuss]

ASHLYN AND BIG RED BI FOR BI COUPLE SO TRUE

#i was hoping big red was gonna come out to her in that scene but then when he said it in the documentary i screamed so hard #fucking incredible i love that so much for them #ricky's turn now!! #hsmtmts #hsmtmts spoilers #big red x ashlyn #redlyn

[witchymoonart]

yesterday AND today cause i forgot </3

#hsmtmts #hsmtmts fanart #big red hsmtmts #big red redonovich #redlyn #big red x ashlyn #seb matthew smith #carlos rodriguez #seblos #seb x carlos #huevember #my art #they <3

[thatsailorscout]

Unpopular Opinion: Big Red and Ashlyn need to stay together in Season 4.

(This is going to be pretty long, so feel free to scroll if it’s too long for your own taste!)

Okay, so I’ve recently finished season 3 of my favorite show: HSMTMTS. It’s been a huge rollercoaster, to say the least, but I like to say that I thoroughly enjoyed the last episode of the series. I think this episode has a satisfying conclusion to the Wildcats’ summer, and I think it is by far my second favorite season aside from Season 1, of course. I don’t think anything could unmatch the Rina love confession, seeing Kourtney sing her way through Let It Go, and get to say hello to Big Red, and goodbye to Nini for the final time. It’s safe to say that I’m very much looking forward to Season 4 whenever it comes out. Anyway, that’s enough of me talking about the finale. It’s time to talk about Big Red and Ashlyn.

The writing and camerawork has made it super obvious that they are pushing for Maddox and Ashlyn to be together. While I love Maddox as a character, I just think she’s the one for Ashlyn. I can already sense their being conflict between her and Big Red in the next season due to Maddox (she’s probably going to transfer to east high) so it makes me feel a little disappointed. However, I’m holding on to the possibility of despite Ashlyn’s growing feelings for Maddox, her heart belongs to Big Red. Now, let’s get this show on the road.

Reason 1: Big Red is Ashlyn’s #1 Supporter

I cannot stress how much of a sweetheart Big Red is. He has been so in love with Ashlyn since Day One, and will always be. Starting in Season 1, he was one of the first people to notice how talented she was. A prime example is presented when Big Red is helping Ashlyn carry food for a get-together with friends. They spark up a conversation on how Big Red ended up in the theatre as a crew alongside Ricky. This leads to Big Red complimenting Ashlyn, “The only thing I’d throw at your face is a brighter spotlight because I like the way you sing.” This compliment makes Ashlyn feel seen for the first few times that season. Despite playing a supporting character in the first season, Big Red sees her as a star who needs to learn how to shine first.

This is displayed many more times throughout the show, but another example is nearing the end of Season 2, after the spring musical, Beauty and the Beast has been performed. That season, we got to see Ashlyn take the spotlight and shine as Belle. To congratulate Ashlyn on her performance, he makes a poster spelling out Ashlyn’s name on light bulbs. “I’ve always seen your name in lights,” He goes on to explain, “You were the perfect Belle. I was proud,” Big Red has always been so kind towards Ashlyn. I feel like aside from physical touch, words of encouragement, full of love. The same goes for Ashlyn with Big Red. She always cheered and supported him when he first auditioned for the musical in Season 2. I just love their positive energy with each other, and I think that’s what a long-term relationship need.

Whenever Big Red and Ashlyn are onscreen, their chemistry is always there. Even before they were together, the show makes it clear how well they mesh together. The looks Big Red gives her every time Ashlyn performs, the looks they share with EACH-OTHER, meaningful conversations with the other person, and Ashlyn shielding Big Red during the storm are what sell them to me. The little moments are so worth it because they truly sell every scene they are in. Especially their kiss scene in the last episode of the first season. I adore how their kiss scene isn’t this huge love confession. It's just Ashlyn being amazed by Big Red’s tapping skills, and giving him a big fat kiss. How cute is that?

Their conversations don’t feel forced. The thing about Big Red and Ashlyn is that they don’t have to say much for them to be on the same level. Despite their conflict in Season 2 where Ashlyn wasn’t exactly supportive of Big Red’s initial career choice, Ashlyn communicates with Big Red by showing up and wearing a Salt Slices shirt. Ashlyn doesn’t have to verbalize anything to Big Red for him to know how much his choices mean to her.

Reason 3: They are SOULMATES.

What else can I say? I think that they’re truly meant for each other. Yes, as a person you make mistakes, learn from them, and grow as a human being. That doesn’t mean Big Red and Ashlyn can’t accept change and grow with each other. I’m hoping in Season 4 that Ashlyn realizes that Big Red is the one for her, instead of it being Maddox. Big Red and Ashlyn already have a special bond of being that extremely cute, and dorky couple. They are the most unproblematic ship (aside from Rina) in the entire show. They’ve already built a foundation of trust, friendship, and love. I think Redlyn deserves a chance in Season 4 because they deserve to be together. It just would be a shame for them as a couple to go to waste, and I don’t think I’m ready for such a drastic change if they were to ever break up.

#redlyn #big red x ashlyn #hsmtmts #hsmtmts season 3 #maddox hsmtmts #antimadlyn #gina porter #ricky bowen #redlyn endgame #endgame #hsm #hsmtmts s4 #unpopular opinion

[trickarrows-bishop]

anyways i’m gonna ignore all of this bs about that being a crap episode on the dash and leave this there for the laughs

#hsmtmts #no context allowed #hsmtmts spoilers #hsmtmts season 3 #ashlyn caswell #big red #big red x ashlyn #m

[dawningfairytale]

i'm going to go on a big season three bisexual rant because there are no thoughts in here apart from some gremlins chanting "bi bi bi bi"

very happy for redlyn being bi4bi, it's pretty rare to have on bi character, let alone two, let alone in a relationship

i really appreciate that it's a disney+ show aimed at a younger audience giving this representation. despite my thoughts on disney as a Company, at least there are creators within it who are like "you know what? queer rep."

neither ash nor red (presumably) cheat on each other when figure out their respective identities, and neither of them are really portrayed as promiscuous or super popular characters unlike brittany in glee or whomstever in euphoria. not that this is bad at all to be, and if people see themselves in those characters, then that's of course great!!! but having it in this way made me realise there's never been too much "kid-friendly" bi rep (luz from toh predating this by a couple of years), and i am so happy that we're now getting that

ashlyn being "nO I Just Like Her As A Friend" until the fireworks? iconic sapphic experience

her "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND WHO IS MALE" is kinda an examination into comphet and that experience of. well. i've liked men in the past and this is a girl and it's not exactly identical but it's definitely not a friend thing was really relatable to me

and while it hasn't really been confirmed if she's a secular or religious jew (because unfortunately i don't know enough about judaism, sorry!!), it seems that at least a little part of her was struggling with the intersection between religion and queerness. and again, while that's not a lot of people, there are religious people in the queer community and that representation can be really helpful for people who want the best of both world

also??? lesbian (yes i am assuming madmad are lesbians BUT I COULD BE WRONG) AND bi AND gay men representation???? quality content right here.

that being said, there are some flaws. i didn't love how we didn't get to see her come out to her friends or big red. i get that the latter was an intimate moment, but like so was the rina kiss. she mentioned that her "dating pool has expanded" but it didn't seem like she had told anyone yet, until carlos showed up with a pride pin (king behaviour btw).

it seems like the in-universe show is going to out her??? maybe she ended up putting something in the confessionals but... idk the way it was edited was really confusing to me

actually yeah that's really it. i'm so confused about the timeline and people's coming outs. for example, i assumed that when ricky looked at ashlyn for confirmation and she nodded she already knew, but i've seen other people interpreting that scene as her finding out??? i personally would've liked some things to be spelt out more.

just let her have a one-liner next season like "I'm too hot and bisexual for this" it's not that hard???

while i would like redlyn to stay together, i understand that you can't always get what you want. IF they have an amicable break-up then i think that there are a lot of potential fun scenes there!!!

btw ricky bowen? not straight. no way. elton with his storyline may be harkening back to the og trilogy's "gay coded but...". gina and kourtney could be straight but i don't want them to be. and i would love it if there were some aro/ace/trans/enby representation with any new characters!!!

also rip to portwell shippers, congrats to rina shippers. good luck to both of you

#seriously if this season had come out like last year i would've come to terms with some things more quickly #anyway max one of these characters is straight #fight me #hsmtmts #or however many colons there are #bisexual #yes i use the bisexual tag bc of the pretty flag tag #redlyn #big red x ashlyn #ashlyn caswell #long post #big red #finally some good fucking bi content

[catoscloves]

so the problem of having a cheating storyline for big red to come to terms with his bisexuality feels pretty obvious and doesn't need to be explained but like ...

for one thing, it feels like an uncharacteristic action, on both his and seb's parts. as much as i love ricky and adore him this kind of act fits more with who he is - at least at the beginning of his arc, regarding his general immaturity and lacking skills, emotionally or otherwise, in dealing with his crises. and even taking into mind that they're all teenagers, immature underdeveloped children who will and do make mistakes, it's nevertheless extremely problematic to act like such a breach of trust in a committed, loyal, faithful relationship is acceptable and okay just to have a character come to a realization about their sexuality. it was wrong to treat ashlyn this way too as she was so adamant about remaining loyal despite having her own conflicting feelings and crises. seb's act of disloyalty triggered carlos's insecurities regarding his image and self worth. and it's just messed up to be bringing this tired trope to the show's bisexual representation.

red and ashlyn grew up and matured into different people who couldn't work together romantically anymore as a team, because they changed so drastically, and that's perfectly acceptable and natural. as they grew they wanted different things. i honestly don't understand what the point of having seb cheat was, from a character arc standpoint.

but once again, i might be beating a dead horse with my saying this but it is incredibly messed up to have your queer representation cheating, especially when one of the actors is bisexual. this kind of cheating narrative does do actual harm and promote harmful stereotypes about bi and queer people and there were many different ways to allow the characters to reach this point in their arcs, to give them rewarding identity journeys, without... this.

#and also it's a completely unoriginal idea lmfao #hsmtmts lb #anna watches tv #hsmtmts #big red x ashlyn

[not-so-incorrect-hsmtmts]

Ashlyn, bursting into the hospital room: What happened? EJ, glaring at Big Red in the hospital bed and Ricky in the chair next to him: Go ahead, tell them Ricky: Okay, so you know how they say you're not supposed to eat play-doh? Big Red: Well, I actually used to eat a lot of it as a kid and I never got sick. Ricky, nodding: So we had to see if he was immune or if the company was lying to us. Big Red: For science.

#ricky bowen #big red redonovich #big red #ashlyn caswell #ej caswell #rj #caswen #redlyn #hsmtmts #high school musical the musical the series #incorrect hsmtmts #incorrect quotes #ashlyn x big red #big red x ashlyn

[madlilsongbird]

“I’m big red, I’m ashlyns boyfriend and I’m bi”

#hsmtmts #high school musical the musical the series #big red #ashlyn caswell #big red x ashlyn