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helga-grinduil · 1 year
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*STARTS FROTHING AT THE MOUTH*
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blueparadis · 3 months
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I really should catch up with bnha.i dropped it when it was at it's peak.
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paper--moons · 1 year
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Hmm, how would baby Tomura react to Kurogiri and Shirakumo being one person? Like, his looks are a mixture of both, but his personality resembles more of Oboro even though he still has the memories and some mannerisms of Kurogiri. And what about Shirakumo’s other regressor? (I’m assuming it was Aizawa, but it could have been Yamada too) How do they react to having Tenko as a “sibling” per se?
Now, I was looking over my inbox and working on getting my notes sorted as I am wont to do, and I'm not so sure if you are simply looking for my input and want a little chat or if this is meant to be a request. Though upon another read of the ask I'm leaning towards the former, so if I have misinterpreted that do forgive me, dear anon, and don't hesitate to follow up if you were looking for a formal request.
So! To answer your question, I think Tomura would react similarly to how children often do when faced with a parent that has made a noticeable change to their appearance (for example, shaving off a beard). It's still very obvious to him that this is his papa, but he's different and it's confusing. But different and confusing can be okay, especially when the love and care is still there. Because if anything, more of the Shirakumo personality coming out means he can be more open with the care that he shows for Tomura; Kurogiri is limited by his programming, but if the two integrate? Then the part of Kurogiri that was so insistent on taking care of Tomura perhaps more than AFO intended is now at the forefront and is no longer restricted. With that in mind, I think Tomura would come around rather quickly to the fact that Papa is a bit different now.
And as for his other regressor...Aizawa probably would not react well to having Tomura as a "sibling" of sorts at first. Not even taking into account the fact that Tomura has put his class in danger and that would make it awkward to say the least—no, his hang-up would largely stem from the idea that Shirakumo is too busy for him now. He's helping with Tomura's rehabilitation, right? There would almost be a sense of being replaced, especially given that they regress to a similar age range. That's not even touching the guilt he feels over Shirakumo's death; it would take some time before he even thought he was wanted still.
Sorry if this got a wee bit angsty, but it is definitely a fun scenario to explore! There's just so many possibilities, you know? 🌙
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comradekiwi · 2 years
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bee-keeke · 1 year
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i just can't get out of my mind the marichat scene and @KacchakoPrompts (in twitter) suggested this prompt,
i imagine Ochako as Chat Noir, the lady noir, fully in love whit Katsuki, and Katsuki the one who is breaking down when he's realizing he's in love
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wait so people are blaming Shigiraki for what happened in his backstory too? alright, sit back children, lemme go off about this. obvious spoilers for Shiggy's backstory, as well as TW: abuse
firstly, let me state that, at the time that he killed his family, he was 5 years old. 5 fucking years old. now that it's been stated, allow me to begin.
I was watching someone try to blame Tenko for him killing his whole family. now let me just clarify, I do not think that murder is okay at all, I'm not trying to justify murder, it is a horrible thing and it's absolutely wrong. BUT I do need to clear up some things about this situation.
the person who was trying to blame Tenko was saying that they know how little kids can get upset when things don't go their way, or if they get disciplined to them it seems like the whole world is ending. now, sure, that may be true, but those instances have NOTHING to do with Tenko's situation.
Tenko was a very small child. he did normal child things, and in the world of BNHA we can see that it is not uncommon for children to play heroes in the same way most kids play house. he was doing literally nothing wrong that we saw, and I'm sure he did some things he shouldn't sometimes like normal children do. yes i know his dad didn't want him to talk about heroes, but how was he supposed to shield him from that? they live in a world full of heroes, in a hero society for fucks sake.
if his dad doesn't like heroes, he should have sat down and had a calm conversation with him. explain things. communication is so important in all relationships, ESPECIALLY with your children.
but no, his dad took a turn down the worst road, and ABUSED him. he hit him, made him sit outside for hours at a time, made him go hours without food, had him sit out of dinner, wouldn't let the others go and comfort him. that itself is abuse, don't water it down or say its someting that its not.
also, "his family did nothing wrong they didnt deserve a death like that". and you're right, they didnt do anything. thats the FUCKING PROBLEM. they didnt do anything. they were bystanders, watching him be treated and abused like this and defending his dad's actions, told him not to cry, etc. they very much so are and were in the wrong for that. dont go lying to yourself.
additionally, Shigiraki recalls that when his other family members died, to him it felt like and he thought that a villain was attacking, that something horrible was happening. that sounds a lot like dissociation to me. it had to have been traumatic. not to mention he saw his precious dog die, and it was probably one of his only sources of comfort. not to mention that he had just unlocked his quirk then, so he was panicking and didn't know how to control it.
and again, he was literally 5 years old. stop blaming the child. have a nice day.
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ttoya · 2 years
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why did i only just now realize how close bnha season 6 already is.... like... i am SO excited for it but also scared they’re gonna fuck up the touya reveal.... or the hawks vs dabi fight... or literally anything cause it’s one of my favourite arcs ever,,
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karmicpunishment · 6 months
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[DISCUSSION OVER BNHA NEW LEAKS BEWARE OF POTENTIAL SPOILERS]
hello,
we have briefly conversed over fukuzawa being alive at the end of s5 and how we wished for allmight to survive. after seeing the new leaks of bnha, how do you feel?? cause after everything thats been hapening in jjk fandom, i dont think i can cope with this dilf dying on me.
crying sincerely,
doina
feeling AHHHHHHHH about it i don't want him to die but if this is how he goes out, i think i'd be suprisingly okay with it? the death flags have been flagging for a while with him, and i'd rather he go out like this, on his own terms and as the hero he's always been than some other way. (but really i Do Not Want him to die)
i think it also opens up the story to finally focus on deku v shigaraki again, which as been missing for a while, with literally everyone else dead, unconscious or busy elsewhere, so thats good (in terms of narrative)
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utaite-mun · 11 months
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melting steel, a meta about shouto todoroki v tetsutetsu tetsutetsu
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[ Spoilers for My Hero Academia through s5 and the Joint Training Arc. I will be discussing both the manga and the anime in this post as evidence of my claims and as points of comparison. ]
tl;dr I think that Shouto as of the Joint Training arc is still feeling many of the ramifications of his hate of his father still, which leaked into his fight against Tetsutetsu, which lead to him attempting to go through with behaviors that should have had more punishment for him, either by the fans or within the narrative. I do not believe that he is a bad or worse character or person for it.
I do believe that the anime’s adaptation of this scene shifts the emotional focus to something else rather than the already presented one, intentionally makes a character more antagonistic, and removes an interesting anger from the other.
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The Joint Training arc in BnHA is clearly a top pick for many fans of side characters simply due to the format permitting for more screen time for much of the underutilized cast. Issues of writing and very little of substance to add to the characters has been a scene that rubbed me quite the wrong way for a time after first reading it, aiding no more by community reception. 
We’re going to be talking about the third battle, specifically the fight between Shouto Todoroki and Tetsutetsu Tetsutetsu and talk about the circumstances in the battle and my opinions of them, as well as fandom perception and reception as well as applying a filter of real world logic to see what would’ve really happened.
In this meta, we’re going to be using a lot of direct screenshots from the officially English translated manga and a few screenshots with the Crunchyroll translations as evidence to back up these claims. As a result this post will be quite long under the cut!
Let’s start simple! Character motivations!
The easy one is, well, it's a class training. Mandatory participation for grade all that of course, but every character carries with them a little more than that.
We’ll start with Tetsutetsu because his motivations are a lot simpler, both due to being a far simpler person, and also without very much characterization. But what we see is telling.
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He believes everyone thinks he’s stupid so he’s gonna counter Class A’s team!
This is entirely for the immediate comedy of showing that he is indeed quite stupid because he is causing quite the amount of collateral damage by flattening the arena. Outside of that, Tetsutetsu really doesn’t have any other motivations to want to win the or even to fight outside of typical school tournament battle shounen competetiveness!
Shouto on the other hand is a little more of an interesting case. While not a direct motivation, before the battle Tokoyami brings up the legacy and upholding the reputation of the heroes they intern under, being Endeavor and Hawks. Shouto is then prompted to think back on his past and the abuse that he’s faced from his father, with a particular focus on moves that Enji claimed only he could learn due to, well, not being like Touya (who couldn’t due to burning far too easily).
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“You will learn these moves.” “Only you can do this technique!”
There’s a heavy focus on these move, this technique, that only Shouto can do, so claims Enji. This technique and these powers are the why behind all of Shouto’s abuse which is why the abuse is also so heavily focused on here.
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But Shouto never takes a particular stance on these feelings when the fight starts, he’s just thinking about it because its part of the reputation he’s upholding, part of the legacy heaved onto him.
Now before we get into the nitty gritty of breaking down the fight with even more panels of evidence, we also need to talk about the two’s fighting styles. It might feel a little pointless but it’s very important to a point we’re going to bring up later and also to gather how the fight goes.
Tetsutetsu is a physical brawler above all else, he doesn’t have any range to speak of unless he starts throwing things, but outside of that he punches. It’s all punching and bludgeoning things, because that’s what his quirk is best for, getting up close and beating things up.
Shouto then is more of mid to long range attacker. His fire and ice are best used in wide areas where he can entrap opponents in obstacles of his own making. But we know him to not be the best at fighting hand to hand with people mostly because he’s never had to do that. His quirk always let him finish engagements before he ever needed to use his fists, or to think of how to counter them.
With that bit squared away, let’s look at the fight and the characters mental states during the fight. Admittedly, this is significantly more for Shouto, because Tetsutetsu does not have any real baggage during this fight outside of “I want to beat this team in a fight because we’re battling to see how many teams from each class wins” and more training. Very simple shounen battle competition mindset. But let’s look at a few examples before the particulars that I want to get into.
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Tetsutetsu is brash and crude, but this is really just par for the course in all shounen series, and in fact, these behaviors are akin to Bakugou, if not slightly nicer, though not that much nicer.
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And before we start going into Shouto’s emotions, were gonna talk about this, and talk a little about how this has been taken by the anime and a lot of other people. Yes, Tetsutetsu is indeed saying he’s going to clock Shouto so hard he passes out. Could Tetsu drag him back to the jail cell? Yes and no, yes because its more nice than beating him up, but no because that goes right in front of the other people.
Is this violent? Yes! Is this more violent than series typical violence that has been previously enacted on other characters? No! Bakugou has done exactly this to Shouto (to the point of actually making him pass out) in the Sports Festival on a public stage. This is series and world typical violence, whether we endorse it or not.
So let’s get into the meat!
Shouto Todoroki and Tetsutetsu Tetsutetsu are fighting basically in the middle of a pipe jungle, Tetsutetsu has the upperhand due to early on getting Todoroki into a hold and then proceeding to punch his way to a victory by knocking out Shouto to then be taken to the faux jail cell.
Shouto’s ice proves to not be of very much effect when Tetsutetsu punches and shatters it, while his fire also proves to be of very little effect due to Tetsutetsu’s steel which resists fire and heat up to quite a high temperature (Shouto’s fire is likely only about 1200°C at it’s hottest, while steel doesn’t start to melt till around 1400°C).
In an attempt to fight Tetsutetsu, Shouto raises the temperatures of his flame, and says this.
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And this is the very much part of the meta where I bring up my grievance.
Unlike the intentional comedic relief of Bakugou and his violence, Shouto in this instance is threatening violence unto another student that is unlike series typical violence established in the school setting (its important to note in the school setting because series typical violence outside also includes Kirishima losing the outer hardened layer of his quirk to Rappa, however that was a villain encounter who was TRYING to kill him).
Neither the audience, nor the character of Shouto, knows what melting Tetsutetsu will do to him. From a logical idea of how his quirk works, it would either melt his body entirely leaving just a puddle of melted metal, or the metal is just a layer atop the body, which looking at what has happened to Kirishima as reference... well, that layer would probably be the equivalent of Tetsutetsu’s skin.
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It’s also very important to note that the heat Shouto creates in this moment is so hot it forces the cameras in the area that the teachers are using to monitor the situation for feedback to be destroyed.
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Tetsutetsu responds, not by backing off, but by recognizing what the situation is with empathy for the other (yes empathy, he is burning, shouto is also probably burning, they’re feeling the same heat). And his recognition is a doubling down on his previous tactics. Knock out Shouto Todoroki in an endurance battle and quell the heat because Shouto will no longer be able to create it.
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Shouto, too, doubles down. He doubles down that he’s going to wound Tetsutetsu is a severe manner. To which the reply is that Tetsu is ready to die in this training because if he can, then it means he’ll be able to do it when it really matters too.
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The response is annoyance. And we receive a panel showing us just how massive the wall of flames he created really is. It’s massive.
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The last of the panels of the immediate fight we need to look at is this one. Yes, Tetsutetsu eggs on Shouto, but that too is simply part of a fight. Shouto is choosing to escalate just for this short moment, with a concentration of fire to a punch, the only fist he’s hes thrown this entire fight by the way to double down on him not normally doing hand to hand combat, to hit Tetsutetsu, who is already warping under the heat.
So I’ve dug into the fight, broke it down, mentioned my major gripe, but lets dig deeper into this.
Shouto could not beat Tetsutetsu with his normal tactics, and was on a trajectory to being knocked out and losing. You may have noticed I left out some key panels here, and especially if you’ve only seen the anime, some key scenes.
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All while losing, Shouto focuses on the reason for his abuse, this power only he holds. Which comes right back around to the flashback he was thinking on before the fight started, and what leads him to using such massive and hot fire against Tetsutetsu and threatening him. It is a technique only he can use that surpasses anything he had done prior to.
And when Tetsutetsu fights back still, he’s pissed! He’s annoyed that this guy can think that he can still possibly win this battle, he just wants Tetsutetsu to shut up and get away or else he’s going to hurt him with far worse than just some burns. He’s cruel and angry, and he’s willing to do a lot of things he probably shouldn’t. And I’m honestly a little pressed to believe that he was doing this out of anger in the moment.
When he wakes up in Recovery Girl’s hes just kind of dazed and confused. But he’s not fuming, and that probably in part of the heat exhaustion and likely lack of oxygen.
We’re going to go on a tangent about the anime now! Yaaayyyy....
For those who have only seen the manga, or have made it this far, the anime fundamentally changes a lot of the emotional context for reading Shouto (and Tetsu!) in this scene. And I really don’t like these changes.
First we need to focus here. There are no clips I can find of this scene but this is 8:30 into episode 96, Battle 3 Conclusion. The anime completely removes the second half of this statement from Shouto.
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First, at the timestamp, there’s a heavier emphasis on Shouto getting physically punched. A focus on the impact and the reaction of him heaving over, and whether intentional or not drawing a heavier emphasis and direct imagery to the next scene which is of a child Shouto on the ground after being similarly hit. Even if the words spoken carry the same meaning as the manga’s the scenes tone and imagery does not.
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There’s also this!
This does not exist in the manga, nor is there any real reason for Tetsutetsu to act in this manner.
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If the above scene with Tetsutetsu was supposed to be in the manga, it would be where this red circle is. And sure, you can assume that it pulls on the previous panel with him saying he’s going to punch Shouto until he’s knocked out, but that’s a very different energy from the above.
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Finally we need to focus here. There are no clips I can find of this scene but this is 8:30 into episode 96, Battle 3 Conclusion. The anime completely removes the second half of this statement from Shouto, being “Unless you wanna melt!”.
What the anime did with this scene with just a few changes ultimately changed a lot of the emotional context of this entire scene in a way that painted Tetsutetsu in far more of an antagonistic light than he really was. Between imagery that all but asks you to picture Shouto having a PTSD response (in the vein of a paralyzing panic attack), and adding a line which makes Tetsutetsu sounds far more sadistic or cruel than he is muddies some of the focus this scene had.
The manga didn’t have a focus on the abuse specifically nor did it make parallels to it the same way the anime did. It used the abuse but more specifically it was calling into recollection the reasons for the abuse, not necessarily the abuse directly (though it is all connected yes). And due to not having a line about Tetsutetsu telling Shouto to just get punched and take it (which is already terrible to say to anyone), Tetsutetsu was also completely more empathetic without it, because he still recognizes this as a classmate who he’s just gonna knock out and he’s gonna do it faster because they’re both BURNING.
So the scene happens, Tetsutetsu makes it out alive, we all know how this ends, you probably do since you’re still reading. Let’s talk aftermath.
I’m gonna sum up a lot of science and say, Tetsutetsu should not be alive. Working under the assumption his quirk is one that functions as a layer of steel over his body, his insides should have been so heated they literally explode. Like when you microwave food and it pops so loudly in your microwave it sounds like a gunshot. Imagine that, but your body. (Also there should be no oxygen due to that fire).
But I like Tetsutetsu, and I think everyone would like if Shouto didn’t commit a murder in the end, so we ignore that.
Next, we address Honenuki and Tetsutetsu dropping the tower on Iida and Shouto. No, Honenuki dropping part of the pipe on Shouto’s neck therefore knocking him out is not any more extreme than previous violence done by other characters (see Bakugou knocking out Shouto in the Sports Festival). 
And no, dropping the tower is also not any more atypical than anything that Shouto himself has done in the past. It is not any more heinous than something we haven’t even batted an eye at. It is akin to Shouto dropping the zero pointer robots on the obstacle course in the Sports Festival, which he did not care if he had smashed anybody under (very clearly because Kirishima and Tetsu were under there).
We’re also going to talk about here, that Shouto faced no ramifications for threatening to either kill or seriously maim Tetsutetsu in this fight, which is not behavior he typically engages in without reprocussions. There is no reprimanding by Recovery Girl or any of the teachers regarding his actions that could be potentially dangerous.
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Here, in Chapter 241, we see that none of the students have any particularly bad things to say. They all think it was cool, and that it’s worth showing off as one of his super moves. Shouto doesn’t face consequences.
In this vein there have been a lot of fights where consequences happened. Shouto and Izuku at the Sports Festival had to be stepped in on by Cementoss and Midnight because of the threat that one of them would be too badly injured, or Izuku and Bakugou fighting against All Might and All Might being reprimanded for how he fought Izuku and possibly snapping the kid’s spine (even if it was played up as a joke). But that just never happened here.
And with that, we’re going to talk about real people reactions now. People like you and me, and I don’t have evidence of these but I want to talk about it. I at least want to touch on it here.
The fandom reaction to Class 1-A’s misconduct and dangerous behavior is vastly different from the reactions to the dangerous behavior of the same caliber from 1-B. There’s also heavy favoritism towards 1-A with no exception.
Back in 2018, when these chapters were first released, I never once saw any person talking about, “Hey,,, that’s actually a little messed up that Shouto’s threatening to melt someone”, but I definitely saw people getting mad that Honenuki let a pipe drop onto him or even the tower. But not a thing about how it’s similar to Shouto dropping those robots.
There was also a string of people just joking and being outraged about Kinoko, nevermind that especially what Shouto was doing was on just as bad of a scale (I’m looking at all those broken Geneva Convention jokes, yeah you know it, Shouto breaks it too, hes a walking flamethrower).
In the end it’s just a funny story about weird superpower teens, but for how much this series community used to revel in adding some complexity, it always just felt a little weird and bland when it was just this hype for unlocking a super move, that’d possibly even come at the expense of another character’s life.
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I’ve been building this case since then and wanted to wait until the anime adaptation to really say something about it, little did I know how I’d have to discredit the anime to fast by doing the characters a disservice in my view.
Ultimately, I do like this scene. There’s a lot of interesting ideas here, especially about Shouto and his annoyance being driving factors (and something I want to write about in another post, talking about Shouto through some of his major plot points). I also think there’s a lot of things you can make here that I think are interesting, like in my “Lets Have a Talk, I’m Sorry” comic where it’s possible to say that Shouto was so blinded by this legacy that he threw away the safety of others.
I just think it’s a shame that the anime warped it in such a way that it only let’s you read a trauma ridden (oh no shouto is having a panic attack poor boy) version of it, and that no one really took the time to think about it like this back when it first released. In the end, I kind of just hope that I can offer a different look at a scene people love for so many reasons (and that I dreaded for a year), and some of my opinions on fandom perception of characters (which i do want to go more in-depth about later as well).
More of my BnHA meta’s can be found in this master list!
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wolfsune09 · 11 months
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what's your blorbos favourite anime?
Oh boy let me find my list
Wolf: Demon Slayer! Fav characters: Genya Shinazugawa, Rengoku Kyojuro, Tokito Muichiro. Not a fan of romance.
Runner-ups:
-Tokyo Revengers (Simps so hard for Mitsuya. Husband.)
-Hanako-Kun (kins hanako-kun.)
-Fav Movie: Promare, has watched it many times, sub and dubbed. Can recognize most themes by the first couple notes played.(oh my god Galo Thymos mmmm) PLEASE GO WATCH IT ITS SO GOOD (It's on animevibe.wtf!)
(Also cosplays.)
Leo: Chainsaw man (currently). Fav characters: Power, Denji. (Thinks they're silly little guys. He and Wolf know all the lyrics to Kick Pack, go ahead and test me.)
Milo: Do movies count? Loves Words Bubble Up Like Soda Pop, A Whisker Away, and A silent voice. Cried during all of them.
Tasha: Komi Can't Communicate. Kind of surprising, but it's kind of a comfort to her. Just a cute lil something to watch with a pretty art style. Likes Komi. Also somewhat kins her.
(These are all series I watched!! Everything about Wolf is entirely based on me! I just got Hanako kun's contact lenses today, and I'm just waiting on his cape because of a shipping issue, then he'll be my first entire official cosplay!)
Should I add my anime list? Yeah I'll do it:
Watching (on the go) [Fav characters in Brackets]:
-Oshi no Koi
-Buddy Daddies
-Pride of orange
-Yakuza's guide to babysitting
-bella/ryuu to sobakasu no hime
-Naruto Shippuden [Rock Lee, Shikamaru, Itachi, Deidara]
-Rock lee and his ninja pals
-Komi can't communicate
-Pretty boy detective club [Hyouta Ashikaga]
-Ultimate Otaku Teacher
-Food wars [ISAMI ALDINI, Ryou Kurokiba]
-Attack on titan [Marco. Ahem, Mar-]
-BNHA s5 [Jiro, Shinsou, Denki, Fat gum]
-deadman wonderland[Shiro]
-soul eater[Death the kid. Kin tbh]
-fairytail [Midnight, Loke]
-cells at work
-Noragami agoroto [Yato]
-overlord
-another
-saga of tanya the evil
Finished:
-Chainsaw man [Power! No manga spoilers please]
-Saiki K (SHUN KAIDO <33)
-Naruto
-Kiznaiver [Tnega Hajime]
-Jujutsu Kaisen[Toge Inumaki, Todo Aoi]
-Demon slayer [Genya Shinazugawa, Rengoku Kyojuro, Tokito Muichiro, Zenitsu Agatsuma]
-Hanako-kun [Hanako]
-Chibi Ribe
-Tokyo Revengers[Mitsuya Takashi, Chifuyu Matsuno, Senju Kawaragi]
-ATLA[Sokka, Zuko. Bolin for LoK]
-Sk8 the infinity [Miya, Joe]
-Promised neverland [Norman S1]
-Danganronpa the animation[Mondo Oowada and Kiyotaka Ishimaru waaaa]
-Noragami
-haikyuu[Satori Tendo, Nishinoya Yuu]
-parasyte!
-Ao no exorcist [Rin Ig?]
-Hunter x hunter[Killua]
-Jojo's bizzare adventure parts 1-5 [Kakyoin Noriyaki, Josuke Higashikata(4), Narancia]
-kakegurui XX [Midari]
-Assassination classroom [Itona Horibe. Bet you don't remember him.]
-angels of death [Zack/Issac Foster]
-death note [L]
-future diary [Aru Akise]
- Servamp [Kuro, Misono Alicein(manga)]
-Yuri!!! On ice[Yurio/Yuri Plisetski]
-Tokyo ghoul
-Death parade[Decim]
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helga-grinduil · 1 year
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you better fix that shit in blu-ray bones
wtf is this
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I can’t be on here there are way too many bnha s6 and mlb s5 spoilers but I’m still not done rewatching both so I CANT WATCH THE NEW SEASONS YET ARGHGGGHHHGGH
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f4iryxt · 1 year
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YALL NEED TO PUT SPOILER WARNINGS ON POSTS ABT SEASON SIX OF BNHA, CUZ TUMBLR HAS SPOILED THE WHOLE THING AND IM ONLY AT S5😭
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todoscript · 3 years
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SHINSO HITOSHI ⇨ 5x11: “OUR BRAWL”
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eleiwitch · 2 years
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@villainsandvictimsalliance
DO YOU SEE THIS
THEY DID TOMURA JUSTICE IN THE BLU-RAY DISC VERSION
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evilsufo · 3 years
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Long live the king.
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死柄木弔
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