#bojack horseman season 1

[cookingyellow]

watching Bojack Horseman season 1 and i know i'm going to really like this show based on how the writers approached the topic of marriage. there is still such a persistent idea in media that marriage is the end of a story and thats just not fucking true?? the show could have dragged out Diane and Mr.Peanutbutter's romance but instead they get married at the beginning of the story, leaving 5 seasons to explore the nuance of what happens to a relationship after marriage and there are a thousand different storylines they could take this in and when will tv media realize that watching a married couple realize they have to choose to stay in love and fighting to do that over and over again is the complex storytelling THAT I WANT

#bojack horseman season 1 #bojack netflix #bojack horseman #diane nguyen #mr peanutbutter #bojack #bjhm

[bojack-says]

Love is an illusion, and happiness is fleeting and there's no such thing as God, and all your favorite musicians beat their wives. Allegedly.

-Diane Nguyen, S02E10: Yes And

#Bojack #Mr PeanutButter #bojack horseman season 2 #bojack horseman season 1 #bojack diane #Raphael Bob-Waksberg #Bojack Horseman #bojack netflix #bojack horseman quotes #the bojack horseman story #bojack quotes #bojack season 2 #bojack season 1 #bojackquotes #bojack-says #diane nguyen #Princess carolyn #todd chavez #paul f. tompkins #Alison Brie #netflix original #Will Arnett #amy sedaris #bojack season 6 #Sarah Lynn #Lisa Kudrow #Aaron Paul #tv series quotes #tvseries #beatrice sugarman

[holiday-7]

You know what your problem is? You want to think of yourself as the good guy. Well, I know you better than anyone, and I can tell you that you're not. In fact, you'd probably sleep a lot better at night if you just admitted to yourself that you're a selfish goddamn coward who just takes whatever he wants and doesn't give a shit about who he hurts. That's you. That's BoJack Horseman.

#bojack horseman #bojack horseman season 1 #herb kazzaz #tv show quotes #adult animation

[princess-unipeg]

Bojack hosting a quinceañera for Todd’s associate

#my post #my posts #the bojack horseman story chapter one #bojack horseman #bojack horseman season 1 #quinceañera

[bojackhorsemanobviously]

im still confused /annoyed how the writing for bojacks guilt /trauma on sarah lynn that goes for seasons / is what helps in his recovery when he sees her picture in rehab his guilt from this to this in the same season

#bad writing #bojack horseman #it didnt even feel like s 1 bj it just felt like bad writing #sure the whole he turned into secretariat is interesting but it still feels ehhh #its easy to say he was always like and this is ic for a narc this but man her death haunted him for 2 seasons so this bugs me

[faultsofyouth]

I love how much of the bojack finale is taken from the first few seasons

#my posts #bojack horseman #like when he is drowning and diane says 'my day was good' thats what she wishes she could say to mr peanut butter in S2 #and in the finale when he says he never knows what to do with his hands at parties he is quoting season 1 diane #its so nice

[levmada]

rewatching bojack horseman gotta say mr.peanut butter deserved sooo much better than diane. me for example

#it’s weird bc i never rly like the ‘golden retriever’ type of character #but damn it😭😭😭 #not sure if this counts as spoiler for season 1 #kane says #bojack horseman

[theawkwardone6]

I can’t tell whether or not this show has a lot of foreshadowing or they made really amazing plot lines out of callbacks or if most of this is coincidence

#SPOILERS FOR BOJACK HORSEMAN #bojack drowning in the pool and Diane is freaking out in the intro #mr peanutbutter kissing bojack bc it kissed Diane and that makes them even bc they had the same experience #the memory of ​bojack sitting alone after soccer waiting for his mom to pick him up when he was high off his ass in season 1 #“i stepped on a needle and I think I’m addicted to heroine so that’s gonna be a whole thing now” #and just so many more things

[clownkiwi]

"wow!!! im just like bojack horseman" is just the adult cartoon fans version of "walter white is just like me"

#rubys clown thoughts #im watching this huge bojack horseman review series by a youtuber and i kinda like the thesis of the show by season 5 #you aren't excused for the shitty actions you do if your pain and misery is relatable #i used to watch bojack horseman alot because i related too heavily on seasons 1-4. but as the show went on... i had to separate myself from #the character. and now i do at this point. thats the best way to enjoy the show #i really don't excuse alot of the shady shit he's done since season 1. not really. he may be suffering sure and i feel bad for him #but that sympathy kinda leaves once you realize the stuff he's doing is alot worse than whatever any of us have done #sorry sorry im dumping about bojack horseman in the tags its a really good show. idk if i could ever recommend it but i liked it

[cookingyellow]

was realizing that-

the person i have identified with the most in media in a long time is a pink humanoid cat who is a talent agent in a workplace that doesn't appreciate her, can't maintain a healthy romantic relationship with anyone but immature men, and who constantly struggles with the reality that she is completely alone because she has failed to make any intimate relationships in her youth so now she is 40 and no one wishes her a happy birthday but her phone

-on my 2024 bingo card?? no no it wasn't

#princess carolyn #bojack horseman season 1 #bojack netflix #bojack horseman #mr peanutbutter #todd chavez #diane nguyen #bojack #if princess carolyn doesn't get the happy ending she deserves we are raising hellfire troops

[bojack-says]

Wanda: What happened, BoJack?

BoJack: Same thing that always happens. You didn't know me. Then you fell in love with me. And now you know me.

Wanda: You know, it's funny. When you look at someone through rose-colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags.

S02E10: Yes And

#Bojack #Mr PeanutButter #bojack horseman season 2 #bojack horseman season 1 #bojack diane #Raphael Bob-Waksberg #Bojack Horseman #bojack netflix #bojack horseman quotes #the bojack horseman story #bojack quotes #bojack season 2 #bojack season 1 #bojackquotes #bojack-says #diane nguyen #Princess carolyn #todd chavez #paul f. tompkins #Alison Brie #netflix original #Will Arnett #amy sedaris #bojack season 6 #Sarah Lynn #Lisa Kudrow #Aaron Paul #tv series quotes #tvseries #beatrice sugarman

[holiday-7]

Oh, just how nice things could've been if you had chosen this life.

#bojack horseman #bojack horseman season 1 #charlotte carson #tv show quotes #adult animation

[2103-laelia]

“You know what the problem is with everybody?

They all just want to hear what they already believe. No one ever wants to hear the truth.”

— BoJack Horseman Season 1.

#bojack horseman #bojack season 1 #movie quotes #movie #truth #sad but true

[bojackhorsemanobviously]

more good reddit takes that ive wondered too

What do y'all think was going on in Charlotte's head when Bojack stayed with her and her family?

When Bojack goes to New Mexico we get a good idea of why he is doing what he's doing, even though it's objectively weird to show up at the doorstep of an old flame after 30 years and then playing house with their family for a couple of months.

I find Charlotte's actions a lot harder to understand though. Maybe that's just because she's not the protagonist but still. She expressed to Bojack that she was aware of his feelings for her before she left LA. She seems to think it is strange that he just shows up out of the blue and she seems aware that he's not telling the full truth of why he's there. She tells him she's happy that he's there and invites him to stay though, letting him become weirdly close to her family. To the point that he's almost a part of it. Bojack is even talking about finding a job in the area. Most disturbingly, she observes (EDIT: or at least, could have observed) that he has a weird and immature relationship with her teenage daughter (think about that conversation Charlotte, Bojack and Penny have about that boy not taking Penny to prom for example).

The whole time I was watching this I was like, why is she so cool with this walking red flag staying indefinitely? Why is she sometimes kind of flirty with him, like when they share a beer after Penny's prom? Have they talked at some point about how long Bojack will stay? What are they to each other now?

And then Bojack tries to kiss Charlotte and she suddenly voices all the things that have seemed off since the beginning. She says they don't really know each other, that he is disturbing her family life, that he has been acting strange/dishonest, that she has to put her foot down and protect her family etc. She isn't wrong but I can understand Bojack's confusion here. I feel like he got some mixed signals from her. It's not really an excuse for him trying to homewreck (and definitely not for trying to sleep with her 17 year old daughter) but her behavior is confusing.

I feel like she must have sensed that he was really there because he was still interested in her. What was in this arrangement for her? What do you guys think her motivations in this whole situation were?

______

She definitely had some lingering feelings for BoJack. Her calling him a coward before she left felt like a way for her to put the sexual tension between them in a way that puts the burden on him. While she probably loves Kyle, it’s possible the fire between them died down over 20 years. She was attracted to this idea of her old friend she had feelings for and wanted to keep him close.

She was still faithful enough and cared enough about her family to not do anything before the prom night, but him living with them could be a way to stay close to him.

For a non romantic reason they also recently lost their other old friend Herb. She was probably nostalgic for that time in their life and knowing they could die for any reason wanted to spend more time with him

___

I think the writers firstly intended to do a spin on how irl, having a friend be that close to the family and living with them like it's a sitcom is actually a bit strange and not as innocent as you would think.

I think Charlotte had lingering feelings for Bojack as well, she doesn't outright tell him no either when he confesses his feelings to her. She just states that she has a family and that he's going to ruin the life she built. I think she was either in denial of her own feelings, or she thought she could ignore them and maintain a friendship with Bojack. It was the kiss that forced her to finally confront what was going on.

Ultimately it's a little bit on both of them that this happened (not the daughter thing obviously). Bojack shouldn't have tried to steal Charlotte away, and Charlotte should have nipped it in the bud, because only a naive person thinks this situation is normal or not see the implications.

#bojack horseman #she wanted that horse D and we all know it #why else would you let a man you havent seen in 20 years around you and your kids? #charlotte #bojack the homewrecker #just like with ep 3 of season 1 #bojack remains deluded in s2

[alistairlowes]

i'm sorry but this shit annoys me to no end. like this is about heartstopper and you all need to stop acting like that show invented everything.

fucking anyways

1. Koisenu Futari

Show that’s specifically made to be about aromanticism and asexuality as well as how aroace people are perceived by society. They are main characters. That’s the main plot.

2. Heartbreak High

Want a teen show with ace rep? No problem. One of the main characters is ace! Would you look at that! The representation already exists! It's got a ton of other rep too and it's on Netflix but somehow we never got that ace rep yet right? You don't even need subtitles for this one.

3. SkamFr (s12)

Is it a bit too much at times? Ye sure but you know what it also is? Another teen show where the main character is asexual that deals with asexuality as the main theme. And no you don't need to watch all those seasons before to get it.

4. Bojack Horseman

I didn't even watch this one but I'm aware.

5. Cherry Magic

Oh would you look at that a show with main mlm couple where one of the side characters is aroace? I mean surely it hasn't been done before.

6. Run On

You want some casual side character ace rep? Well here you go even kdramas have done it but I guess there just aren't any shows...

Honorary mention to Sex Ed for that one scene.

#asexuality #aroace show recs #aroace shows #i know there is more but these are ones me or my friend watched and we think they are good #alice o*eman would get a stroke over cherry magic because it's ~fEtIsHiSt BL so it couldn't possibly do what she does :// #and yeah i say that as someone who's fav book is radio silence #anyway if you actually cared about ace rep you would look beyond what is served to you by one streaming service goodbye #koisenu futari #heartbreak high #skam france #cherry magic #run on #bojack horseman

[genericpuff]

bit out of nowhere but LO Hades reminds me so much to Bojack Horseman idk how to explain it

Oh we've talked about this extensively in the ULO chat circles n such, especially when it comes to the most climactic scene in the show, the second interview:

The entire tone of the show showcases a very bitter reality with a lot of celebrities and people in power. There are some messed up things that happen throughout the course of the show, but they always feel like they're being used for comedy or brushed under the rug with comedy, because the show is, after all, a comedy. But I feel like that was the point, because it's not until the final season that everything that happened throughout finally catches up to Bojack, and suddenly... it's not funny anymore. There's no punchline. It really reflects just how much people in power don't see their abuse or wrongdoings as "big deals", sometimes they even see it as "just some funny thing that happened", all while the onlookers and victims of their behavior and abuse either become so acquainted with it they don't even see it as abuse anymore until they finally break away from it (Diana, Todd, Princess Caroline, etc.) OR they fight to be heard while the media tries to snuff them out. So then when the consequences finally catch up to them, there are no laughs to be heard, as much as the perpetrator in question may try their best to pass it off as "not a big deal" or believe they shouldn't be held accountable because "it happened a long time ago".

Anyone who sees Biscuits Braxby as the villain here is missing the overall point - Bojack has been responsible for literally ruining people's lives on several occasions, and has never been held accountable.

And yeah, I see a lot of that in LO as well, but the issue is the framing of the story isn't making it clear if it's actually going to have its "Come to Jesus" moment with Hades and Persephone, or if it's just gonna keep celebrating them as the heroes.

There were no consequences for Hades pulling out Alex's eye. They played the resolution out for comedy.

There were no consequences for Persephone turning Minthe into a mint plant. They played the scenario out for comedy literally by the end of the very same episode and then well into the next one.

There were no consequences for Persephone cornering Tori at his job. The entire thing was played up for comedy.

There were no consequences for Persephone raiding Leuce's home. She was rewarded with sex from Hades and it was, you guessed it, played up for comedy.

Just like with Bojack Horseman, we don't see Hades or Persephone treat these situations as seriously as they ought to. They ultimately don't care how other people feel or how they may be affected by their own actions, they only care about themselves. Just like with Bojack, we see Hades enter sexual relationships with women who are in a much weaker position than him, women who stand to lose far more than he would if the relationship went south.

(I need you all to realize that Hades is literally blackmailing her. He is trying to pay her off with a management position or some kind of severance and framing it in such a way to manipulate her into thinking it's 'better' for her that she take the deal, all for the sake of getting her out of the picture because he's with Persephone now. This is blackmail. And the narrative wants us to root for Hades here.)

Shit, I would argue Bojack is still a better character than Hades and Persephone because we 1.) see how the consequences of his actions do affect him on a deeper level (through his anxiety and self-hatred which he spends a long time wallowing in, making his situation worse, rather than seeking help for) and 2.) he actually does eventually start to seek help, but unfortunately there's only so much one person can do to fix themselves when their actions still haven't been brought to justice and their mindset hasn't truly changed; which is what we see in the final part of the show when, despite Bojack's attempts to be a better person, the Sarah-Lynn case catches up to him, and in his final moments up on that stage with Biscuits Braxby, we see his true nature come out - he thinks being an addict should absolve him from what he's done to others.

Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Except replace "addict" with "traumatized" as many of Persephone and Hades' actions are swept under the rug with "they went through trauma so it's fine". Despite the fact that other characters who have also been through trauma aren't given that same grace (Thanatos, Demeter, Minthe, etc.)

You could also go a step further and call out how the fans themselves will defend their actions as "but they're gods!!! gods were terrible all the time in the myths!" but isn't it funny how myth accuracy only ever comes up when it comes to defending Hades and Persephone? Meanwhile you'll never see anyone bring it up when it comes to Apollo SA'ing Persephone, or Hades having an emotional affair with Persephone, or any of the other number of things that Rachel rewrote for her 'retelling'. It's not funny haha, it's funny yikes.

I can only imagine how the fans feel seeing Hades and Persephone called out must be similar to how first-time viewers like myself felt seeing Bojack be put on the cross by Biscuits Braxby - "you're being an asshole, he's working on himself!" "leave him alone!!!" "the media is making a monster out of him!" "he's really not THAT bad!"

But he is. They are. And unlike Bojack Horseman, I unfortunately can no longer have the good faith in believing Hades and Persephone will have their comeuppance, or the people they've hurt will get their retribution. I have no hope that Persephone will see that she's the Sarah-Lynn of the relationship, a girl who was groomed into an abuser at the hands of an abuser, who had no chance of doing better because the person she fell for pulled her down to his level. I don't have any faith in Rachel whatsoever that she'll manage to end this story with any message besides "it's fine for Persephone and Hades to be who they are, because they're rich and powerful and really horny for each other!"

And Hades doesn't think he has any power over women.

#lore olympus critical #anti lore olympus #lo critical #ask me anything #ama #anon ama #anon ask me anything