#both verses

[genzento]

Are you actually more top or more bottom leaning?

100% top.

#both verses

[howtodisassembleyourdeviant]

It is -5 outside with a feels like at -27. Connor is not leaving the house without four sweaters, one jacket, one coat, two vests, four scarves, three hats, six gloves, and thermal underwear.

#Connor #RK800 #DBH #RK800-52 #disasterhuman! connor au #Both verses #All verses #Boy runs cold #Needs the warmth of another

[iwasbored777]

The height difference in ITSV vs in ATSV is killing me 😭 Miles and Gwen were so shorter than Peter, now they're almost as tall as him

#i remember back when it was weird for me to see them older now it's weird for me to see them younger feels like it's been decades #they were babies #peter b parker #gwen stacy #miles morales #spider man into the spider verse #into the spiderverse #spider man across the spider verse #across the spiderverse #spiderverse #sick of comments how they're standing in front thats not why they look tall they are taller in the second one they're standing #in front of him in both pics #if you didnt see how much they grew up while you were watching sucks to be blind as you #i chose these pics for a reason cuz they're on the same distance from peter in both #but you can tell they grew

[serenity-the-firefly]

really i think one of my favorite character dynamics is “i don’t actually like you but we’ve been through so much together that i’d trust you with my life and know that we will always back each others calls. but i still wouldn’t trust you with my car keys.” like “we aren’t really friends but we’ve been thrust into an intense situation where you are the only other person i know so now we’re besties.” and “if it weren’t for our years of history i would have literally nothing to talk to you about at this work dinner.” Enemies to lovers has NOTHING on general disinterest to begrudging acknowledgment to discovering that this person is now an inextricable part of your life

#I think its both very funny and very compelling #this is kind of about #the silt verses #but tbqh about many things i like #what can i say i enjoy a relationship where both characters implicitly trust each other on big issues but would literally murder each other #over like paint swatches #thoughts

[nightowl374art]

just some Gwen and Miles 42 thoughts

#my art #click for better quality #no doubt they’re both huge nerds #Gwen’s dad gotta teach her self defense if she’s working the night shift in a world like 42 #spider man: across the spider verse #across the spider verse fanart #miles g morales #gwen stacy #miles x gwen #ghostflower #miles morales #gwiles #ghostprowler

[skyberia]

something so scary but so sexy about the word "hallow", particularly when it's used to mean something you can do to someone rather than something. to hallow someone, to be hallowed. and it's mostly word association i suppose but part of it to me is how close "hallow" is to "hollow". turning someone holy, emptying them out of everything that actually makes them who they are in the process. do you understand. do you feel me

#post brought to you by the silt verses. though it was written entirely while thinking about harry du bois #this to mean this is both about turning people into crabs and putting the ppl you love in pedestals so high they become deities to you

[yellowocaballero]

Miguel is Fine, Actually (Being Spider-Man's Just Toxic As Hell)

Before I watched ATSV I said that I would defend my man Miguel O'Hara's actions no matter what, because he's always valid and I support women's wrongs. I was joking, and I did not actually expect to start defending him on Tumblr.edu. But I'm seeing a lot of commentary that's super reductive, so I do want to bring up another perspective on his character.

Miguel wasn't acting against the spirit of Spider-Man, or what being Spider-Man means. Miguel isn't meant to represent the antithesis of Spider-Man. Miles is the antithesis of Spider-Man. Miguel represents Spider-Man taken to its extreme.

Think about Miguel's actions from his perspective. If you were a hero who genuinely, legitimately, 100%, no doubt about it, believed that somebody is going to make a selfish decision that will destroy an entire universe and put the entire multiverse at severe risk - if you had an over-burdened sense of responsibility and believed in doing the right thing no matter what - you would also chase down the kid and put him in baby jail to try and prevent it. He believed that he was saving the multiverse, and that Miles was putting it in danger for selfish reasons. Which is completely unforgivable to him, because selfishness is what he hates the most. And then he goes completely out of pocket and starts beefing with a 15yo lmfaooo he's such a dick.

But why did Miguel believe that? Why did he believe that Miles choosing himself and his own happiness over the well-being of others was the worst possible thing? Why did he believe that tragedy was inevitable in their lives, and that without tragedy Spider-Man can't exist?

Because he's Spider-Man.

Peter Parker was once a fifteen year old who chose his own happiness over protecting others. It was the greatest regret of his life and he never forgave himself. Peter's ethos means that he will put himself last every time, and that he will sacrifice anything and everything in his life - his relationships, his health, his future - to protecting and helping others. Peter dropped out of college because it interfered with Spider-Man. He destroyed his own future for Spider-Man. He ruins friendships and romantic relationships because Spider-Man was more important. If Peter ever tries to protect himself and his own happiness, then he's a bad person.

That is intrinsic to Peter. Peter would not be Peter without it. A story that is not defined by Peter's unhappiness is not a Spider-Man story. If Peter doesn't make himself miserable, then he's just not Peter.

That is a Spider-Man story: that not only is tragedy inevitable, that if you don't allow yourself to be defined by your tragedy then you're a bad person. If you don't suffer, then you're a bad person. If you ever put anything above Spider-Man, then you're killing Uncle Ben all over again. Miguel isn't the only one that believes this - as we saw, every Spider-Man buys into what he's saying. There's no Spider-Man without these beliefs.

Miguel attempted to find his own happiness, and he was punished in the most extreme way. He got Uncle Ben'd x10000. He tried to be happy, and it literally destroyed his entire universe. It's the Spider-narrative taken to the extreme. Of course Miguel believes all of this. Of course he believes this so firmly. He's Spider-Man. That's his story. And the one time Miguel tried to fight against that story, he was punished. And like any Spider-Man, he'll slavishly obey that narrative no matter the evil it creates and perpetuates. Because if he doesn't, the narrative will punish him. The narrative will always punish him. It's a Spider-Man story.

I don't think the universal constant between Spider-Mans, the thing that makes them Spider-Man, is tragedy. I think it's the fact that they never forgive themselves. And Miguel is what that viewpoint creates. He doesn't believe this things because he's an awful, mean person. He believes them because he's a hero. He's a good person who hates himself.

Across the Spider-verse isn't really a Spider-Man story. It's a story about Spider-Man stories. Miguel's right: if this was a Spider-Man story, then Miles acting selfishly really would destroy the universe. But Miles' story isn't interested in punishing him. It pushes back against Peter's narrative that unhappiness is inevitable and that you have to suffer to be a good person. It says that sometimes we do the right thing from love and not fear, and that Peter's way of thinking is ultimately super toxic and unhappy. ITSV was about Miles deciding that he didn't need to be Peter Parker, that all he needed to be was Miles, and ATSV is about how being Peter Parker isn't such a good thing. Miguel shows that. Whatever toxic and unhealthy beliefs he holds - they're the exact same beliefs that any Spider-Man holds. He's a dick, but I don't think he's any more awful a person than Peter is.

TL;DR: Miguel isn't a bad person, he just has Spider-Man brainrot.

#across the spider-verse #atsv #atsv spoilers #across the spider-verse spoilers #across the spiderverse #across the spider verse #miguel o'hara #atsv meta #source: i recognized an embarassing amount of those cameos #im also seeing a lot of ppl make a lot of assumptions about what miguel was injecting and why #we dunno guys! im not gonna suppose anything #I just think that Miguel and Miles are great foils #and that what makes them interesting as foils #is the fact that they're both good people who want to do the right thing #miguel shows how that gets twisted #to the point where you beef with a 15yo sometimes which is still so funny #im a big spidey 2099 fan #which I love bc it is NOTHING like spiderman and yet it's such a good spiderman story #but talking about comics migs is useless bc he has 0 in common with atsv migs #but there is a lot of VERY cool stuff to say about how #the sm2099 comic has nothing to do with spiderman at all whatsoever extremely pointedly #but its still a wonderful spiderman story that finds its own way #tbh it was kind of a breath of fresh air to read a spider-man story that wasn't about spider-man for once #and that was just about miguel #anyway stan women's wrongs #miguel o hara #miguel ohara #my writing

[sodamnbored]

Jason, giving an inspirational speech before going into the House of Hades: I know it’s been a difficult ride. I know we’re down a few friends down right now. And I know this isn’t going to be easy. But there’s still the six of us, and together we can clear these hurdles.

Leo, under his breath: Except Nico cause he’s four foot eight.

#I KNOW Nico is taller than that and taller than Leo - but that absolutely would not stop Leo making short jokes about him #they both do it to each other. to assert dominance #pjo fandom #pjo verse #pjo hoo #heroes of olympus #jason grace #leo valdez #nico di angelo #percy jackson #percy jackson and the olympians #incorrect heroes of olympus #incorrect valdangelo quotes #incorrect leo valdez #incorrect nico di angelo quotes #incorrect pjo quotes #incorrect percy jackson #incorrect hoo quotes #pjo stuff #pjo text post #pjo boys #argo II boys #valdangelo #valdangelo bromance #frenemies #demidorks #demidorks being petty #nico and leo #chaotic dumbasses #disaster duo

[circe-pendragon]

Thinking about how the first time I watched ATSV I was shocked when I saw Gwen sneak away from Miles to plant the spying device to watch Spot, like “*gasp* she has ulterior motives!” And then after my second and third watch I was like, uh yeah her ulterior motive was to be with Miles. She only got sent to his dimension for her mission and she immediately takes the chance to teleport herself into Miles' bedroom. She has so much fun hanging out with him that doing the task she was assigned seems like an afterthought to her.

#did she think something along the lines of 'thank god we’re both the same amount of obsessed with each other' #when she saw his drawings of her? probably #atsv spoilers #across the spider verse spoilers #across the spiderverse #atsv #gwen stacy #miles morales #ghostflower #spider gwen

[melandrops]

hollywood could never top the casual but meaningful representation that horror fiction podcasts have

#EVERYONE IS GAY #AND ITS CANON TOO #they take the time to address the issues and the internal dialogue #of queer experience #but at the same time #it just is #it's casual #it understands how to present queer people as People #with problems that are both unique and non unique to their identity #and!!!! #there's so much intersectionality #muslim queer people #disabled queer people #you name it they have it #it just means so much to me #the magnus archives #the silt verses

[rambutanjpeg]

miguel buzzcut lore 🎱

#I THOUGHT THIS WAS A BEAUTIFUL BUTCH WOMAN TURNS OUT IT’S JUST MIGUEL O’HARA #to me he is both #missing his personality from the itsv end credits scene #dramatic and sensitive to lyla’s jabs #smiles very big im love bald miguel from concept art #miguel o'hara #atsv lyla #spider man: across the spider verse #atsv #my art

[livwritesstuff]

Every day, when Steve gets home from work, he always asks his and Eddie's daughters what they did while he was gone.

One day, they surprise him with an answer he hasn't heard yet.

They tell him, “Daddy taught us how to pick locks.”

The girls are immensely proud of themselves and want to demonstrate their newfound skill, so they put on a whole show of locking themselves in the bathroom and breaking each other out while Steve watches on.

Much to his chagrin, all three of them can successfully unlock the privacy lock on the bathroom door from the outside – including three-year-old Hazel.

“That’s…that’s great,” Steve says when they’re done. “Uh, where’s your dad?”

They tell him that he’s upstairs and, indeed, Steve finds Eddie up in their bedroom folding a massive pile of laundry.

“Seems like you all had fun today," Steve says to him.

"Did they show you the door thing?" Eddie asks with a grin, "Yeah, they had a blast with that."

“Okay, you do realize that the lock on our door was our ticket to any kind of a sex life, right?”

Eddie blinks, the smile on his face slowly fading.

“Oh…yeah. Shit.”

“Yeah,” Steve repeats, “Nice going.”

#the girls are too young to know that if steve asks *where’s your dad?* instead of *where’s Dad?* ...eddie fucked up #the conversation ends only a minute later when robbie picks the lock and wanders in asking about dinner #the speed with which eddie replaces the doorknob with one the girls can't break into is both very impressive and completely pathetic #steddie #liv’s steddie dads verse #steddie dads #steve harrington #eddie munson

[stairset]

I do feel like the way Kyoshi was written in the Avatar reboot was lowkey influenced by the fandom's perception of her. Cause like in the original show she's really just portrayed as a pragmatist who's willing to kill if necessary. Like Aang is conflicted about killing the Fire Lord and she's like "well if I were in your position I'd do it but that's just me. Good luck." And then people started making memes where she's like a murderous psychopath who thinks extreme violence is always the solution. And it was funny at first cause it was just exaggerating for comedy but now everyone thinks she was actually like that in the show when she really wasn't. And then in the remake her introductory scene is her angrily yelling at this 12 year old that he needs to stop being a little pussy and be a ruthless warrior or whatever and the only explanation I can think of is that someone in the writer's room maybe looked at a few too many of those memes.

#she had an awesome fight scene though so there's that #disclaimer i own both the kyoshi books but haven't actually read them yet #so this is just going off how she was written in the original show #i'm working my way through all my books that i haven't read yet so i'll get to the avatar novels soon #but i gotta get through a couple more star wars books first lol #but yeah you know those spider-verse memes #where they take the scene where jefferson says ''spider-man why did you create that guy'' #and they replace it with some funny dark shit like ''spider-man kill him and his family'' or ''spider-man fuck this guy's ass'' #that's basically what people seem to think kyoshi is like #avatar the last airbender #avatar kyoshi #shut up tristan

[himbolithium]

old atsv doodles

#doodles #spider man #miguel o'hara #atsv miguel #spider punk #hobie brown #spider man: across the spider verse #atsv #everything everywhere all at once #eeaao #my two fav movies #both ironically about bagels and multiverses #I swear I draw new stuff guys #scott pilgrim #why did I do a Scott pilgrim crossover #that’s a good question

[kateblankett]

thinking about how the reason why most angel names end in -el (gabriel, michael, samael etc) is because El means God or messenger of god in Hebrew and how Cas is just Castiel without the god part so Dean by giving Cas that nickname is basically separating Cas from his shitty absent dad and giving him own identity and seeing him as his own person rather than an extension of god/heaven and i’m not saying Dean did this intentionally or that he even knows about the meaning of the suffix but it’s just so so correct and perfect i love them so much help

#LIKE HELLO?????? #also dean might well know about it since both him and sam know some latin/sanskrit etc and generally are versed in biblical lore #so yeah im crying #destiel #spn #dean winchester #castiel #deancas #supernatural

[iwasbored777]

Remember how softly they were looking at each other when they wanted to kiss I swear I wanna cry they're so soft

Bonus:

Gwen's puppy eyes here 🥺

#i legit forget how huge her eyes are until she does the puppy thing they're so big i love her i love them both my kids #the puppies looking at each other like 🥺 #gwen was like no i didn't mean to raise my voice how about a kiss #it's all cute and fun and games until you remember miguel was spying on them here without them knowing 💀 #i feel him i too am obsessed with them #spider man across the spider verse #across the spiderverse #Spiderverse #gwen stacy #miles morales #gwiles #ghostflower