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#but deltarune is something that i feel attached to deeply
yuriyuruandyuraart · 3 years
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"Ah, my outfit. Yes, the monochrome look is suitable, isn't it?"
yes it does dude. yes it does<3
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itbelillian · 3 years
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deltarune ch2 spoilers
seriously I'm about to spoil the fuck out of the game and also the Alternative Route For Assholes
ok the 24 hour spoiler ban has passed but still: FINAL SPOILER WARNING. 
first: GOD this game is so. GOOD? holy sweet mother of meatball, I have been thinking about it nonstop for the past 2 days. it feels like a shitpost. I love queen dearly. the potassium gag. “what does bosom mean??” “tity.” every single interaction with her and berdly made me PISS myself laughing and especially The Statue. actually this whole game was really, really funny. the part where you and ralsei go on the swan boat, literally on acid, and battle it out with rouxls kaard. who is riding a duck. god where does toby come up with this material?? it is so weird but.... so good. his comedic chops have gotten a LOT better since undertale, and even chapter 1.
the art, music, and mechanics were SPOT ON. the recruitment thing, the implication that at some point you’re going to have to de-recruit someone for the betterment of your town, the town itself, just... good lord. toby has outdone himself. this adds so much complexity to the gameplay that was kind of lacking in undertale? I also love the way that the equipment has been done this time around, it adds an element of strategy to deciding who should get what items and when to equip different items. the team as a whole is so great, mechanics wise. fights with them are INFINITELY more entertaining than fighting alone as kris would be. and the art is WAY better than undertale. I've never been one to criticize Undertale’s graphics, and I still won’t, but it’s impossible to deny that deltarune is a step up in every way. the little animations of kris and susie entering the dark world, susie and lancer’s high-five, the attack/defend animations, just so good. the environments are super aesthetically pleasing, too. the music is great, of course. it’s Toby Fox what am I expecting?? to be honest nothing has really Hit Me the same way any tracks from undertale have, but maybe they will as I listen to them more. a big part of it is the familiarity.
also: I was never too attached to either susie or Ralsei in chapter one, but this really sold it for me. when I played Undertale I felt very invested in the characters, but not so much my friendship with them. it felt very much like we had just met each other. in deltarune I 100000 percent buy the friendship and I ADORE both of them so much? the fact that kris literally does not say anything but still has distinct dynamics with the two of them baffles me but I can’t complain because it is?? so?? amazing??? I was genuinely very upset when ralsei and susie left to do their own thing. I didn’t realize it as it was happening but I really loved having them around. I missed them. also it seems like EVERYONE except me was suspicious of ralsei, but now that it’s been pointed out... yeah. I love him to BITS so it pains me to say but something is Wrong With Him. why can he travel from dark world to dark world without turning into a statue? what are the titans, and why is he only mentioning them now? and actually, ALL of our information about the dark world is coming from him. how much is true? what else does he know that he’s not telling us? 
and what. WHAT. is up with kris? I don’t even have any theories I am just baffled. it seems like they’re the knight, right? have they been creating... all of the dark worlds, including the first one in the storage closet? does this make kris the villain? or is the creation of dark worlds a good thing... meaning ralsei is manipulating us into thinking the dark fountains are evil? Why would they slash Toriel’s tires? why are we possessing them? also I LOVE the puppet theme with the hidden bosses... and it really seems like something about that is not sitting right with kris, either. kris full on shouting that they’re not okay to ralsei after he asks... good god I am SO CURIOUS. the mystery element here is really on point. it’s so easy to settle into the comedy and fun little group dynamic, but something is always Wrong and when something reminds you it is deeply unsettling. the only group member who doesn’t seem to have something freaky and suspicious going on is susie... if she turns out to be evil too i stg im ejecting myself from the stratosphere 
also speaking of mysteries: not knowing how Undertale and deltarune connect is KILLING me. I fully buy into the theory that sans and papyrus are “from” the world of deltarune, originally. if the theory is true, then word search from icee’s pizzeria you find in UT is actually SO? brilliant. SANS GAVE YOU A WORD SEARCH FROM A RESTAURANT THAT ONLY EXISTS IN DELTARUNE. was toby thinking about this all the way back when Undertale was released??? but is deltarune an alternate... timeline? does undertale exist at ALL, if the sans and papyrus thing doesn’t turn out to be true? but if that were the case, why would sans’ grocery store be the same building as grillby’s, logo and all? does sans owning the grillby’s building indicate that sans went to the undertale world to take it?? what is going ON??? 
and just going to say it: snowgrave route in deltarune (is that what we’re calling it???) is a MILLION times freakier than the genocide route in Undertale. like ut is  depressing, it was Unfun to kill my friends, but the way you just... slowly corrupt pure, innocent Noelle and make her do your incredibly screwed up bidding is just disturbing. the way you just say “Proceed” at all the puzzles and like, gaslight her into thinking she didn’t TOTALLY MURK berdly and that ring seller guy... god it’s so messed up but also SO???? amazing??? murdering video game characters makes you feel like you’re... well, playing a video game. but forcing Noelle to do it for you??? something about that feels so much more twisted. god I feel like a sadistic bastard. 
deltarune is not undertale but it’s not trying to be. it definitely feels distinctly different, and maybe more sinister? expectations are through the roof for toby but he’s killing it. I remember being worried when deltarune ch1 was announced, because undertale doesn’t feel like the kind of game that can, or should, be followed up by anything. I think I was wrong though. I don’t know how its possible, but deltarune is the perfect thematic successor to undertale in every way I can think of. tl;dr PLAY DELTARUNE it was good 
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roxannarambles · 2 years
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the trouble with getting attached to a WIP canon
Rant under the cut about fanon vs canon. Includes brief discussion of the Krisei/Kralsei ship (assuming ralsei is an entirely seperate person from asriel) & Owl House/Hunter.
Here’s the thing, my dudes. When Deltarune Ch1 came out, I adored Ralsei so much. My mysterious, lonely fluffy boy. I loved his design so much, it reminded me of a jumping spider or maybe a strange dark dustbunny who lived under your bed. He was so earnest and sweet and awkward and yes, there were some mysteries surrounding him, because he clearly knew a little more than he was revealing to you, but there was never any doubt he had good intentions. The mysteries would be revealed in time. I always headcanoned he was not revealing everything yet because of how painful his past was.
And yes, at the end of Ch1, for a few seconds, he reveals a new face and character design. But I disliked the design and pretended he only looked that way because he was standing near the Dark Fountain.
Then Ch2 came out and I couldn’t pretend anymore. That was the new face of Ralsei. And I was so disappointed, because he just looked like Asriel. And look, let me be clear-- I like Asriel and the design itself is not bad! It’s cute. But I liked Dark Ralsei so much better because of how different it was. 
And now that Ralsei looked so much like Asriel, well . . . it killed my joy for the Kris/Ralsei ship. I can’t do it anymore. Ralsei just looks too much like Asriel. And I figure Kris would feel the same. And that sucks.
But what sucks even more is that with Ch2, Ralsei’s character development went in a direction I didn’t expect. And it’s not as though this is a BAD direction, it’s just not what I expected and had grown to love. I had grown attached to my vision of Ralsei, in the long span of time in between Ch1 and Ch2.
I am so, so worried this is going to happen with The Owl House for me. In that long span of time in between Season2A and Season2B. We’ve all developed so many headcanons and thoughts and feelings about Hunter. Consistent, carefully developed ideas that are a natural extention of the canon we have. But we can never be sure that’s the way things will actually go in canon. It could always go in another direction. And what if it goes in a direction we don’t like? There is an inherent danger of getting so attached to something before all the canon has been revealed.
Ralsei is now retroactively “ruined” for me. Please understand that I am not saying Ralsei is a bad character or that Ch2 had bad writing. Ch2 was brilliantly written. It just happened to be that I didn’t like the direction Ralsei’s character was going in Ch2. I got attached to a particular idea about him, and felt disappointed when that changed. This is nobody’s fault, except perhaps my own.
I thought maybe I  could go on writing fic about “my version of Ralsei” from Chapter 1. But damn, that’s just so hard to do in the face of canon. 
I am scared this is what will happen with Hunter. I don’t want the past 5 months or so of time I’ve spent with this character to be retroactively ‘ruined’ for me. And believe me, I was aware of this risk when I went into things. But l I did it anyway, because I loved the character. At least, I loved what I and others saw in the character. Whether or not his creator sees the same things as we do has yet to be seen.
I’d like to think if Hunter’s character in S2B goes in a direction totally different from what I’ve speculated and enjoyed about him, I could still write “my” version of Hunter. But the truth is, I may not be able to. The truth is, the thing that I’ve hyperfixated on for months and that has given me so much comfort and solace during an incredibly difficult time in my life may simply be yanked away from me forever. Even the memories of all that time we’ve spent on this misadventure may be changed from sweet and beautiful into something deeply bittersweet.
I’m worried. 😞
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electricfied-wolf · 3 years
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Typing that was PAIN.I see you want to talk about the deltarune thing so why don't you give me a rundown? I know nothing about the other kings after all, Lemme type cowboy bed before the day ends. I can also type Martha if wanted but she's up to interpretation if she's alive. Tommorow is the grand shebang so I want to know something before typing that as well. Permission to mild body horror with Dr Habit? Teethwise? - Smile For Me
As long as the body horror isn’t too bad, I think we’ll be alright. Also dfijoijosdf im excited for Habit...also yes im answering ths I can give you a good idea! This is mostly, if not entirely, filled with headcanons and stuff, and since this is coming from a fairly new AU (meaning a few of the old takes when I was using my other AU won’t be valid), quite a few things might stay from canon. I’ve become obsessed with the concept of poly kings recently pff- So, let’s talk about the kings! I actually don’t have much for Heart and Clubs, especially Clubs ssdjfshdskh- I’m gonna include Spade too, along with the others, just to give the basic cover of what he’s like in the crossover, because the merge thing changes something- Spade: This poor, fluffy cat-like monster has had a NIGHTMARE of a life since the lightners left. He lived in the dark world with the other kings as well as Rouxls, his advisor...or as many knew them...the Spade King and his husbands. Lancer is a mystery, but as far as anyone was concerned, he’s the child of all of them. Spade’s husbands loved him greatly, he loved them back, everything was perfect. When the Lightners were there for them, they were happy, even in canon Spade seems to share a deep attachment to them. Then, they were abandoned, and Spade was left in shambles, weak and hurt enough for a certain dark force to overcome him, and he just...changed. He became different, he was overcome with forceful thoughts and feelings, he changed from a loving partner and father, a kind king, into a demonic tyrant that wish to rid the world of the light. When the lightner trio came down, whatever they did, damn it worked, it somehow ripped him from that, temporarily, and when he was in that prison? He felt horrible. When the merge happened? He was so far away from that dark power that he became..himself again. That was...a hell of a change. Diamond: Had to do this guy right away! Snake dad! He was probably the cuddliest out of the group, he’s got four arms, better for huggin’! Out of all of the kings, despite Spade having been a sweet ol’ papa figure, Diamond has the biggest dad energy. He cares deeply for all his subjects, his ‘treasure’ doesn’t just apply to materials, it applies to his family. Poor Diamond cried for days on end when Spade had locked them away, he couldn’t believe that one of his dearly beloved lovers had done this, it just didn’t make sense. He did appreciate Rouxls coming for visits though, made things a little better for them. The other kings weren’t dragged into the merge right away, they were...delayed, almost. So when they finally arrived, when Spade was just...completely how he used to be before it all went wrong, he was overjoyed. The others, though, insisted he was a little too quick to forgive, to which Spade agreed. He’s a real sweet fella, he can make his staff things he has appear and disappear out of nowhere, probably some kind of magic. Heart: Like his subjects, Heart is fully mute, he (and his subjects!) have a sort of series of gestures (doesn’t have the hands for regular sign language) so that he can communicate. You know how Sylveon wraps it’s ribbons around it’s trainer? Heart does that with his partners, it’s his way of showing affection since he’s not super duper cuddly, but he still likes his equivilant of holding hands, he also likes head boops and resting on the other’s shoulders.
Clubs: Is he one monster, or many? It’s hard to tell most of the time, but it’s just been agreed upon to refer to the multiple heads as one monster king. You think it’d be awkward in a way, but it’s really not, they make it work, and everyone is happy. Clubs is the grumpiest at times, but he’s still sweet towards his partners, but he does tend to mostly be the voice of reason between them all.
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Okay. *I look around and do some browsing. I look at some Vintage Clothes and see if there's anything I like. So far, none of them fit my style, so I turn to Vintage Toys. I spent quite some time eye-browsing 'cause I saw some familiar toys that I used to have as a kid and I couldn't help but reminisce my past with a fond smile. Although these toys bring such fond memories out of me, they're remnants of the past that are better off in the past, so I move on to the Vintage Gadgets section. 
The gadgets fascinate me. I've always been curious how people in the past used the antiquated apparatus of their time, and typewriters always fascinated me and still do so. I find a modern-looking one and gingerly press the key and the sound of it being pressed sends satisfying tingles down my spine. I get excited and press some more then manipulate the mechanism that makes "Ding!" sound. I feel the glee rise within me and play some more for a while. 
After my excitement somewhat dies down, I reluctantly let go and move on to the Vintage Accessories section. I look at all the jewelries, but so far, none of them catches my eyes, until they land on a necklace; it's a golden heart locket with an outerior design of the Deltarune. My eyes widen as I recognize the rune and mentally wonder how'd it get here, when it should be in possesion of the former royal family. As I pick it up from the shelf and open the locket to see the interior, I hear a music coming from inside and immediately close it, startled by the unexpected sound that broke the silence in the shop. 
I look around my surroundings, making sure I didn't disturb the patrons and the shopkeeper, but there's only me and Grim around, and the owner is still sound asleep, so I return my focus back to the object at hand, and carefully open the lid of the locket again, this time, listening deeply to the haunting note of music that invades my senses and rings my soul. I fully open the lid, and see that a small music box is attached to the locket in the right side and a quote "Best Friends Forever" engraved in the left side. For some reason, seeing it sends shivers down my spine, and it was then that I realize I may have found an important royal heirloom that may have once belonged to someone and is eagerly awaiting to be returned to its owner, or at least, be returned to the family. I end my eye-shopping and return to where Grim is with the locket in my hand, eager to ask questions that hopefully he has answers to* 
Grim, look what I found. Does this look familiar to you? What do you think it's doing in the shop? *I show the locket to him*
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(Hope you don’t mind I did a bit of editing on your submission, just to put it in more manageable chunks. The big block of text was a bit daunting and I didn’t want your discovery to get lost in all that!) 
Grim watched you fondly as you wandered the shop.  He loved watching you on the typewriter especially.  You just looked so excited!  He planned on saying something to you about his own typewriter (purchased at this shop and loving restored over the course of several months) but the thought flies out of his skull when he sees the locket you’re holding. He frowns. 
“That’s the Delta rune,” he says, studying it. “The royal crest.  I don’t know how it got here, or why. I heard music - was that from this?” 
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