#but i'm not sure about which parts are their ideas and which part is hori's so

[pikahlua]

I'm not sure I'm entirely convinced but smashing theory as usual pika 🫡✨️ Is it okay if I ramble about a few misgivings I have? It's a long one, sorry! but there are multiple points I want to mention as assisting ideas

First, I still think that a 1v1 setting battle seems likelier than a 2v2 (bkdk duo vs shigAFO) - since we already had a bkdk duo in the movie ending, and Hori *did* say after that he had a different thing in mind for the actual ending (which I'm not sure should be a classic shounen "Battle of The End" actually, but wth we have been in this war fo so long now? More than a year! it may as well "end" in its conclusion ig). In which case I think we'd agree that 1-to-1 pvps would very likely feature Izuku & Shigaraki and Katsuki & AFO. Speaking of which: I also still think kacchan parallels and juxtaposes moreso with AFO than Shigaraki, so it might make more sense for him to "inherit" AM's struggle in this way, as a battle with the "Big Bad" AFO - not to mention it'd be another extremely cool twist to have the boy who ended AM save him by winning the fight, imo. I'm not sure how much of that metaphorical oomph would transfer to him fighting with "Stray Lamb" Shigaraki/Tenko...

In any case lots of people seem to support the 2v2 option. I understand that the most popular cases are: Katsuki "saving" Tenko by "winning" the fight. Izuku "winning" the battle with AFO to "save" the world. But then, I think the story'd be disregarding Izuku's wish to save Tenko, first spoken of in the vestige realm, which I don't believe is quite likely. We had so many breadcrumbs leading up to Izuku asking "Is Tenko still there?", so I still think a 1v1 and Izuku vs Tenko would make more sense.

I suppose people still want to see Katsuki's "save to win" in this final battle? He has always been a character that has struggled and fought internally with himself foremost - contrasting the mostly external opposition and fights that matured or broke other character's beliefs/ideals. Katsuki is destined to "Win Over His Self", yes? I'd argue he already has done that, (nailed it actually, right in the kokoro) 🎯 😅 which is why I don't really think he has to show it again, that he has learned to "win by saving/save to win". Which is another readon why I think a showdown with Tenko is kinda unnecessary

Meanwhile, I'd argue we haven't seen Izuku's "save by winning/win to save" quite yet, not with Katsuki's grandeur, in any case. I'd argue he finally has the opportunity to do this with Tenko's fight. And I'd think that since OFA is now a "power to save" rather than a power "to defeat AFO", (after class A's intervention and welcome intrusion into that), and since I think Izuku might be the one doing the "saving" for Tenko, it'd make sense for all of OFA's vestiges to bear witness to that "saving", to their "new purpose", if you will, and I think AM's vestige should be included in that if he's truly a part of OFA.

.... If, by chance he's a different component to OFA, like maybe something that serves only as a power maximizing "coefficient" rather than a full blown "variable" in OFA's power "equation"? Then yeah, him leaving OFA might make Izuku slightly less powerful but would make more sense in terms of Katsuki's arc so far. After this battle I doubt Izuku is gonna need that power excess anyway. It'd also make sure he can't become the Symbol of Peace powerhouse on his own and let him play on a more equal field with his peers, which is best fir his sacrificing mentality. And I do think that Katsuki could do with at least the "gaze" and "support" of the mentor Izuku has had 95% of to himself so far...

Welp, that's that! Sorry I even went into a math analogy there 😳 If you've read so far thanks for bearing with me!!!

((This complete thing is utter shit if AM actually won against AFO btw))

I like you. I like your thought process. I like your courtesy in explaining yourself even when we disagree. I want to emphasize all of that because I think your essay here is WORTHY of being challenged. Or rather perhaps it's that I want you to challenge my thoughts, which I hope are also worthy.

(And please bear with me here, my brain fog is rearing its ugly head today.)

1. The problem with 1v1s:

Let me step away from the predictions for a moment with this point. Will Horikoshi ultimately go with a 1v1? He could. I actually have no way of knowing. But I would like to explain why I think it would be a mistake for him to do so. This has nothing to do with Heroes Rising and everything to do with the MHA manga canon.

MHA the story has spent so. much. time. emphasizing how necessary teamwork is, how going alone is not feasible, how everyone has limits. It's not just a platitude it throws around occasionally because it has to. Entire arcs are structured around this idea. Hell, trimesters and curricula in-universe are built upon this lesson. And the story is called "My Hero Academia." How is this a story about Izuku's hero academia if the primary lesson his hero academia taught him gets eschewed at the end? What was ultimately learned if not this?

For Horikoshi to turn his back on this moral, for Horikoshi to go with the standard shounen formula ending when he has famously twisted such tropes in the past, would be to betray his entire story. This story about how society has perverted the ideas of heroes and villains to avoid personal responsibility and stifle social progress ONLY to see the light and view heroes and villains as humans DEPENDS on exalting the virtues of cooperation, of empathizing with one's fellow humans, of desiring everyone to come together, and of contributing to that goal as a piece of the whole. No one is alone. There is always hope. And people are given that hope by having it ignited in their hearts by others (by the symbol of All Might, in many cases).

Remember, "this is the story of how we all became the greatest heroes."

And I do believe Horikoshi wants to maintain this moral as best he can. This final arc has showcased that. Even in the battles we've seen concluded now, while the primary focus may have been on one person's conviction (Shouji's, Mina's, Shouto's, Ochako's), that conviction was backed up and magnified by another person (Kouda, Kirishima, Iida, Tsuyu). And you'll note that some "fought" and some did not. Some played supporting roles or contributed with non-combat assistance (speed or negotiation, perhaps). So at the very, very least, if we end on a 1v1 fight between Izuku and Tomura, Katsuki must support Izuku's conviction to save Tenko in some vital way that tips the scales in Izuku's favor.

The question is, has this already happened?

One might argue it has, that Katsuki's death and the efforts by others to save him have had a clear effect on Tomura. Katsuki's death was the catalyst that allowed Tenko to swallow AFO's ego and regain control of himself.

But we could also argue that, while this potentially contributes to Tenko's salvation, it is NOT an example of Katsuki sharing in Izuku's conviction (that of saving villains). And I argue that this much is a REQUIREMENT.

That said, there MAY be another example that could be construed as Katsuki sharing in Izuku's conviction.

We REALLY don't talk about chapter 358 enough. It may turn out to be a crucial hint about how future events play out.

That said, it's debatable on whether this is truly the same conviction Izuku professes or if it's just the lesson Katsuki has learned, in which case...

Would that not beg for a moment where Izuku backs Katsuki's conviction up, too?

So, sure, you may get your 1v1, but I'm willing to bet there will be enough of Katsuki present in it to construe the "1v1" as otherwise :P

2. The idea that Katsuki parallels AFO more than he does Shigaraki:

At the risk of sounding pedantic, I want to earnestly, powerfully emphasize the idea that this is not a competition: everyone parallels everyone. I have showcased many times how many ways in which Izuku and AFO parallel each other, it's not just Katsuki and Tomura.

But note how this is really possible with ANY TWO CHARACTERS in the whole series. They all parallel each other. It's because everyone's learning the same lessons.

And parallels don't necessarily make for a good 1v1. I don't really think about the parallels that much in terms of setting up FIGHTS. Most "fights" in MHA are barely fights at all. They're conversations, arguments, debates, just sometimes with some action in the middle.

What I really expect from these parallels is a resolution. Some sort of reckoning. Anything at all really. Someone challenging someone, someone talking to someone, someone reaching out for someone. It doesn't matter who does what in most cases, because I expect all four to interact.

3. "I understand that the most popular cases are: Katsuki "saving" Tenko by "winning" the fight. Izuku "winning" the battle with AFO to "save" the world."

Yikes, are these really the most popular options? I hate them. I hate them so much. Can I offer some better ones?

What if Izuku fights Tomura long enough to subdue him and reaches Tenko's heart but can't physically reach out to save him, so Katsuki has to act as Izuku's extension to take Tomura's hand and save him?

What if Izuku fights to his last strength and saves Tomura (and maybe Baby AFO, who knows where that's going) but can't get all of them out of physical danger, so Katsuki is the one who gets them out?

Or maybe Izuku just can't save HIMSELF and Katsuki rescues him?

What if Katsuki reaches Tenko's heart through speech, through relating to him, and it disarms Tenko enough for Izuku to save him?

What if AFO and Izuku have a tug-o'-war over Tenko and Katsuki tips the scales? Or Katsuki AND All Might tip the scales?

What if Izuku fights Baby AFO (or it's something like another Dabi explosion situation) and Katsuki relates to AFO himself as a child and that disarms AFO enough for Izuku to save the day?

What if ANY of the above but add more Class 1-A and other villains to it? What if everyone holds hands to make a human chain to pull Tenko out of some AFO ego void and show him the world cares?

I can go on for days.

4. "We had so many breadcrumbs leading up to Izuku asking "Is Tenko still there?", so I still think a 1v1 and Izuku vs Tenko would make more sense."

But that's just it! Katsuki has breadcrumbs too!

It has been highlighted over and over and over again ad nauseam that Katsuki is a character who must become a hero who can see things from the villains' perspective and REACH OUT TO THEIR HEARTS. Katsuki even names Tomura as the person he intends to face down in the end!

(Of course, AFO fits the bill in many ways too. But like I said, I don't think it's gonna be clean-cut 1v1s, so there's opportunity for both Izuku and Katsuki to show what they're made of in this regard with BOTH villains.)

5. "Katsuki is destined to "Win Over His Self", yes? I'd argue he already has done that, (nailed it actually, right in the kokoro) 🎯 😅 which is why I don't really think he has to show it again, that he has learned to "win by saving/save to win"."

BUT HE DOES NEED TO SHOWCASE IT. OTHERWISE THIS IS JUST LIP SERVICE, BECAUSE NOTHING HAS HAPPENED SINCE HE SAID IT.

While you and I may believe he's already made it, Katsuki himself DOES NOT ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YET. He does not see himself as having surpassed All Might yet, and he believes that in order to do so he needs the help of others.

I mean, does it get louder than "Because saving people is how we win"????? He's set the terms for what his "win to save/save to win" looks like in the end!

6. "Meanwhile, I'd argue we haven't seen Izuku's "save by winning/win to save" quite yet, not with Katsuki's grandeur, in any case."

I mean this super genuinely because I think you need to consider it: How was Izuku's victory over Overhaul NOT this in your eyes?

I think you need to be able to answer that question if you want to make such a claim. I think you CAN make the claim, mind you, but anyone you talk to about this will point to this moment in canon as their first question for you to address.

Until you can answer it, I have to argue that both Izuku and Katsuki have displayed some version of their "win to save/save to win" pieces before, but they have to now apply those pieces to this war where the stakes are astronomically higher.

7. "…. If, by chance he's a different component to OFA, like maybe something that serves only as a power maximizing "coefficient" rather than a full blown "variable" in OFA's power "equation"?"

Kudos to you for the "if"! Yes, in my recent posts, I've been writing under the assumption that All Might's vestige is a piece of OFA. But I'm actually not fully convinced this is the case yet. Everything surrounding All Might's vestige is still very loosely defined and doesn't seem very final. I think it's totally possible there's a twist waiting for us in there.

And anon, I did receive your other messages.

8. "Speaking of which, if AM's vestige is in fact a power "coefficient" then its checks out that Kacchan would rise powered-up!! WTF It makes sense ?! 🥴"

Can I offer you an apotheosis in this trying time?

#anon ask #ask pika #my hero academia manga spoilers #final showdown spoilers #meta #katsuki bakugou #izuku midoriya #tomura shigaraki #all for one #all might

[justatalkingface]

I saw your post about Black Whip and I wanted to get your opinion on something that to me, is so damn obvious, but maybe I am looking at it differently than others.

When Midoriya is explained how Black Whip works, why isn’t the first thing in his head is, “Hey, I should talk and pick at Tokoyami’s brain to get some insight from him on how to keep it under control!”? Because when Banjo explained Black Whip, my mind immediately went, “That’s literally Dark Shadow, just not sentient.”

And it would have been a perfect segway into Tokoyami possibly becoming a more defined character if he’s hanging around Midoriya and they chat and Izuku gets to know Tokoyami better. Because for the most part, Tokoyami is around Hawks a lot, but he acts a bit like a blind fanboy to him and we never explore Tokoyami more, it’s always about Hawks.

Then it could have started a trend. When Midoriya unlocks Float, then introduce Uraraka into the meetings. And both her and Tokoyami can replace Bakugou because he was absolutely useless and obnoxious in Midoriya’s “training”. And for the other quirks, Midoriya will gradually gain his own circle of trust with OFA and the stored quirks through their help of similar quirks or advice from other brainy students like Yaoyorozu, Iida, and Todoroki. Such as how All Might had his own circle that knew the actual truth about OFA when he was it’s wielder.

I don’t know, I just think Horikoshi squandered an opportunity to flesh a few more prominent characters and instead stuck to the boring, tedious BakuDeku scenes.

*tilts head*

That... that is actually a really good point? I never thought of it, probably because he wasn't really even a character at that point, but it makes a lot of sense.

Both of them are dark, shapeshifting energy, and both of them require self control... somehow. Not quite sure how that works for Tokoyami since they never really got into how he 'self controls' a separate entity, but, damn. This would have been a great way to get into it. I mean, hell, in the war arc Izuku uses Black Whip to get past his body's limitations by supporting himself and cushioning impact of OFA (which I'm... eh on), but that's really similar to how Tokoyami uses his Quirk later on in the story with Black Abyss. That being a collaboration idea between them is great character development, and makes these newer power ideas feel more organic than they are when a big fight rolls around and Character X deploys New Power Y seemingly out of nowhere.

And using that as a segway into introducing OFA to the rest of the class, rather than just finding out in a note (I mean, considering how disconnected all of that felt by that point, I'm kind of confused to why Izuku even told them at that point, you know?)? Using Izuku as the glue to bind 1A together (like he was implied to at one point, before they stopped being relevent)? That's honestly inspired, it really is.

So much of the drama thus far in the Final Arc is built around 1A, but they're so out of focus, so undeveloped, and such strangers that it makes it all fall flat...er. But if we get an arc or two of Izuku binding them all together, making them relevent again, then the stakes would feel that much bigger to us (and you know, we could avoid the Dark Deku arc all together, or at least make it feel more... anything, really. And less dumb.)

Hori squandering opportunities to waste them utterly, or drop some fraction of the idea on someone else isn't a new thing, but damn, now I'm really regretting this was never a thing.

#ask #bnha critical #mha critical #tokoyami fumigake #really a good idea here

[haleigh-sloth]

but im a hero stan????? i like the villains sure but i dont care about them. i just think hori wrote the story sometimes in a way that MIGHT maybe fool some ppl into thinking that some of the villains (shigaraki, stain) have something to say abt the corrupted society and could try change it in their own violent ways (no offense but thats how a revolution works) and some of yall go like "yeah no they just wanna die and not do shit" unironically as if ppl not liking it was wrong lol

I'm gonna have to break this down because there is a lot here.

"i just think hori wrote the story sometimes in a way that MIGHT maybe fool some ppl into thinking that some of the villains (shigaraki, stain) have something to say abt the corrupted society and could try change it in their own violent ways (no offense but thats how a revolution works)"

The story didn't fool anybody. It was our wishful thinking. I can very honestly look back at the manga and see that, nowhere in the text does it imply that the villains are seeking any actual change. Tomura has the right reasons for his anger, but he has not once channeled it into a productive outcome (AFO has a lot to do with this). His first goal was to just...KILL All Might?? And he attacked a high school to do this, with the intention of killing the kids. Already, right off the bat, you know that this character is not thinking in terms of solutions, just in terms of anger (justified anger). I'm sorry but it's not on Horikoshi that people took that as an attempt to reform shit.

You bring up that violence is often involved in revolutions, and you are right. But comparing this:

to a revolution geared toward accomplishing something is just, wildly off the mark. No offense to you, but just opting to kill everybody is NOT how a revolution works, actually. The comparison is not good, so I'm really not going to even dwell on that little comment because it's not worth the discussion.

I can get where there might have been some inkling of hope for a reformative idea on the League's part, and I can't deny I was in that bandwagon too. But when I became frustrated with the manga not focusing on the League that way, I had to readjust my reading. And it was not hard to see that it was just MY wishful thinking. Because that's exactly what it was.

I think a lot of people really forgot this scene in chapter 222. Or like, they discount it as irrelevant now. But no, this scene onward has embodied Tomura's entire character.

"Destroy. It. All."

Look, I've also participated in the "the League are the protagonists of the story" shit too. But again, wishful thinking. They are not the protags, and when they kill and destroy, they are never framed in a positive light. The only time they are framed as the protags is during MVA, when they are attacked and are fighting for survival. And I mean, Tomura winning the fight against ReDestro was a technical win, but for his development as a person it was very detrimental to him in so many ways. They were the protags of that arc, but that arc was so much negative development for them, which should be very telling about what their positions in the story are.

The closest they've gotten to a "revolution" type of reaction was the heteromorph riots--and even then they were written to attack a hospital full of patients and hospital staff trying to help people. So again, their actions can't be backed up and it wasn't portrayed as a solution to literally anything.

"and some of yall go like "yeah no they just wanna die and not do shit" unironically as if ppl not liking it was wrong lol"

Sorry but this is like, exactly how they've been written from the get go. Maybe you don't particularly care, but the villain fandom doesn't want to grasp this.

It isn't ironic because literally--that's who they are.

Do I even need to point out that Touya is canonically suicidal? How is Touya supposed to reform anything if he's dead lmao. There is no valid explanation to somehow twist his actions into something that produces a solution.

Again, it's not about whether people like it or not. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that parroting the very safe criticism of "it's bad writing" is just lazy. It rids people of acknowledging that they either misinterpreted the text, got lost in headcanons, or straight up just don't like that it didn't go the way they wanted--which is a frustrating thing to admit, so everyone just resorts to "omg bad writing".

It's not bad writing for NOT delivering on shit that was never promised.

#bnha #boku no hero academia #anonymous #bnha asks #bnha critical #league of villains

[christianstepmoms]

I was extremely let down by Mad God, it's first 20 minutes are a visual masterpiece, completely marred by a disjointed attempt at making a linear anthology, with the other parts making up faaar less impressive scenes visually.

Definitely would have been much more effective as a short film.

The live action segments, not advertised at all, reminded me of a youtube fan project, awkward green screen that may have stood as their own separate short films, completely clashing with the unparalleled stop motion the film opened with.

Additionally there was literally no moments of levity in the film. This is an artistic choice and thus subjective, sure. But it's just punch after punch after punch of just grime and gore and disjointed thematics I felt like I had no room to breath and digest segments.

And don't get me wrong I love that kind of shit but something about this just didn't feel fine.

I'm hard pressed to compare this to Takahide Hori's JUNKHEAD (2017), but I believe enough thematic and visual similarities exist to warrant this. Both were stop motion passion projects with a very similar visual style including themes of class disparity. Both had next to no dialogue. Neither pulled punches when it came to gore and visceral visuals. But even in it's darkest moments, Junkhead was able to bring moments of levity through both ironic and sincere humor at the situations themself, that in my opinion improved the pacing of the narrative.

That and Junkhead was a single narrative with minimal, if any, deviations from the presented visual style that made it feel faaar less disjointed than Mad God, even with it's smaller budget and development team.

I don't think I hate Mad God, there are certainly redeeming aspects, it would deeply benefit from a fan edit.

That said there are some portrayals of fascist imagery that come almost immediately with the introduction of the live action segments that have me going 😬😬😬

Everything good about the movie comes to a screeching halt at this part, I feel like I was on a high speed train that ran headfirst into a brick wall.

I dont think it was intentionally fascist, as interviews with Tippet seem to indicate he has no idea what he's talking about ever.

I think this is just another case of "IT TOOK _X_ YEARS TO MAKE", which at this point, I am convinced is the exact opposite of the stamp of quality they try to advertise it as.

Idk if it takes you 10+ years to make a feature, maybe the idea is just not that good dude.

Everything that wasn't the opener clashed with the openers visual style, it felt rushed, it felt like it carried different themes. And would have stood better as a clear cut anthology, instead they tried to mash it together as one single narrative and, man it just didn't work.

#phil tippet #mad god #takahide hori #junk head #shoveled from twitter

[mikeellee]

Sending an ask to continue the convo bc my phone is lagging due to the many many posts

I understand that Bakugo was chained bc he was raving like a lunatic, yes. Obviously if he just behaved, that wouldn't have happened. Tho that's not the point I'm trying to make. They didn't have to parade him like that or chain him if they just didn't give him the award (in a way, he forfeited the award but they just. Didn't accept it. Like I rlly don't agree with that. If he doesn't want it, don't give it to him. There is rlly no need to chain a 16 yr old boy to a pedastal just to show that he won. If this had to happen in this society, ppl would be like "wtf?" but bc it's anime, it's seen as smth funny when it's just. Inhumane.)

I don't like Bakugo bc he put Izuku through that. I actually HATED him in season 1 and about half of season 2 bc of it. And when I say the toxicity of hero society, I don't just mean abt quirks and he's not the only one who is like a representative for it. Take Shoto's parents for example. It was an arranged marriage bc children with powerful quirks and that's how Shoto happened. Like, u can't tell me that isn't showcasing the toxicity of hero society. Same thing with Izuku getting bullied for being quirkless and Bakugo looking up to All Might - the no. 1 hero - and creating this "I will win by my standards" ideology that literally breaks him beyond repair. He gets sucked into his own ideals so much that he gained a superiority complex that was toxic to others and then an inferiority complex that was toxic to himself. And if u rlly think abt it, if this whole thing abt ranking heroes and stuff wasn't a thing, they wouldn't be in these situations. If ppl without quirks weren't looked down upon as weak, he probably wouldn't have bullied Izuku. If there was no ranking for best hero, he probably wouldn't want to win at everything and Shoto Probs wouldn't have even been born...

Bakugo is indeed important to the story and he doesn't only exist for Izuku's development. He gets his own development and we can see that by looking at how he was in season 1 and how he is now (Season 3 and 5 are the best examples tbh). And he's part of the main 3, who are all important to the storyline. A story isn't only plot-related, it's character based as well. Even tho Horikoshi is doing a bad job rn, he isn't a total idiot who made a story with absolutely no morals. If you analyze the specifics, u can see so many problems that are staring you right in the face but never make themselves known (bc it's for you, the watcher/reader, to wonder about and that's what makes stories fun) and it's especially interesting in mha bc of how it gets portrayed (I love talking abt Bakugo when I mention this; bro cries more than Izuku in mha and no one else seems to notice (I rewatched it a few times and actually got shocked with how many tears he shed but it was never obvious bc NO ONE LOOKS AT HIS EYES SPECIFICALLY WHEN THEY SHOW HIS FACE, HIS MOUTH IS TOO BIG))

Ok NOOOO, I can absolutely not agree with that- the story was originally supposed to be abt how Izuku becomes a hero without a quirk. I'm not sure why Hori scrapped that idea but I'm glad he did bc this is much more interesting than the cliche underdog stories. Mha does have many messages... We just need to look for it. A rlly obvious and out-there one is how most villains are just people who's stories haven't been told... In the MVA arc, we see everyone's reasons for siding with Shiggy and can understand where they're coming from. And for most ppl, that's where they took a turn and no longer knew which side they were on. I can go further and say that the hero system is a very black and white system that doesn't see the grey parts (this was emphasized by the fact Stain like. Exists.) He kept going on abt "fake heroes" and how they needed to eradicated and then u have Shiggy, seeing potential in him and trying to recruit him to the villain side. But Stain wouldn't have that. He wanted to continue being a vigilante. As for the heroes, they see Stain as not only a vigilante but a villain as well. And yeah... U can probably predict where I'm going with this

Felt

No clue... Missing in action

Lol...

Huh, for Stain...let me ask this. Have you noticed how his arc is pointless? Not sure if is the right word. But Stain appears and....nothing really changes, you know?

Shiggy? Oh Shiggy. As someone who likes Shiggy.....he could have handle better. To me, he is forever AFO's meat puppet. Shiggy never really try to understsnd people, he is thr type to bite first ....and be shocked when people dont offer him a hand. Like, his first apperance in the show is....him wanting to murder kids.

"But he made a good point" ok but his speech lost any meaning the moment he goes "huh what if I try to murder those innocent students"

[mettywiththenotes]

Just wanted to confirm, apologies as I’m not up to date on the MHA scoop (social media break and all 😅) But just based on a post you shared, has HK become more involved in the anime now? Was he ever involved in the past as much or..?

I know that Hori was definitely involved in the Heroes Rising movie. He had input in the League's designs and, I assume, some of the characterization

(I only say that because it was kind of a joke in the fandom that the Two Heroes Bakugou characterization wasn't good so "Hori had to step in for the next movie and make sure they did him right this time" lol. and tbh Heroes Rising's characterization of him was better imo so)

Hori was also involved with World Heroes Mission, serving as the chief supervisor of the movie (I think this is where some of the characterization and world building came from). He also created the designs for Rody and Pino

For the series itself tho? No involvement as far as I'm aware

But I was talking with a mutual about how there's so much symbolism and foreshadowing present in Season 6's OP and ED that it feels like Hori got involved on that part

I don't know if it's true. But looking at previous openings and endings and the way they've been done, this season feels so much more different than what Bones has done before that it feels like Hori got involved to make sure it gives off the vibe of A Story-Changing Arc

It feels like that especially because there's actually focus on the Villains this time. Which is something Bones didn't seem to want to do in S5/MVA's opening (where it mattered most)

I guess it's also possible that Studio Bones just got a new guy in, somebody who understands what Hori's about, and that's why there's such a big difference

(Or I GUESS it's possible that Bones just. got themselves together on their own finally)

But personally, I like the idea that Hori had something to do with it, just because it's funnier. Like he saw the state of S5 (the obvious bias) and said "This WON'T be another MVA incident!" lol

So me talking about Hori getting involved with S6 is more about speculation and assumption-until-proven-otherwise (and occasionally making memes) rather than actually knowing if he has gotten involved

#i assume for memes and i speculate for discussions #in this case #i'm sure if hori were involved in s6 then there'd be mention of it at some point but. for now its mostly speculation #and thats ONLY based off s6's opening and ending so #yeah its not a for sure thing #i mostly believe in it for the memes lol #also hope you had a good social media break anon #thank you for the ask!😊 #asks with metty #bnha asks #horikoshi kohei #bnha #anon asks

[gentrychild]

Imagine if Hori originally planned to make AFO hisashi midoriya and then changed his mind years later. What do you think about that?

To all the people believing in this theory (I know you exist), let's agree to disagree and just stop reading this, please.

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You're gone, now?

Okay.

This theory, as far as I am concerned, doesn't make sense because we are still getting DFO hints in recent chapters.

The first time AFO was introduced to Izuku as a character was in chapter 89, at Kamino. 89 chapters is already a long time to realize that "Hey, maybe I don't want to make my villain the father of my hero because I'm sure people will complain about it!" and Kamino was just full of DFO hint moments.

We know that AFO couldn't have possibly not known that Izuku was behind that wall. Between the X-Ray quirk (and isn't that funny that we got a scene in Tartarus where AFO straight up talks about said quirk) and Search (from Shigaraki POV, it is shown to be a supernova of a quirk), he had to know he was here but he did nothing. When he fought All Might, not only was he at his most pissed, but everything he had to say about All Might choosing a successor was "YOU ARE A TERRIBLE TEACHER."

But alright, let's say that Horikoshi dropped the idea after showing Izuku being a tiny bit obsessed with quirks (Did I mention in-universe that Izuku's mumbling about quirks is seen as creepy, which directly parallels Toga's love for blood? Let's say I did.) and after Kamino. So the question is "When did Hori decide to abandon this theory?", I guess.

In chapter 193, we have Izuku communicating with the Vestiges (and yes, I am including it as a DFO chapter because even if you exclude the fact Izuku is communicating with his quirk, we get the panel with AFO's speech battle saying "My only family" and I will let you guess who is the only person in this panel. Spoilers: it's not Yoichi.) and in chapter 210, we get the first appearance of Blackwhip. It is considered a pretty big DFO hint but let's say that Horikoshi still wanted Izuku to have several quirks because it's cool.

But in chapter 217, we get Bakugou (who is the guy who got the closest to All for One among the students and even among the heroes except for AM and GT) actually makes the comparison with AFO, drawing once again attention to it.

Which leads to a pretty funny moment in the same chapter where All Might is obviously uncomfortable with the idea of comparing his son to AFO and trying to ignore said son looking at his hand in a AFO pose while loudly thinking "I will make that power mine."

Then, in the war arc (I am not checking which chapter), you have the AFO vestige not only saying that the ability to interact with quirk ghosts is something he has but also something that, and I quote "My blood relatives... My brother", also have!

Then there is the end of the war arc where AFO doesn't grab Izuku even if he could have as the poor boy wasn't conscious when he left the battlefield but when he (gently) pushed him back, his hand is shown bleeding as if he is the one who took most of the force of the attack in order not to hurt Izuku.

Then, during the solo arc... Listen, so many people made memes about it but yes, AFO was set on murdering past OFA users, nuked Nana and generally did a lot of collateral damage trying to kill All Might... and you not only have him just being "You took a thorny path. Are you sure you want to go on?" but Horikoshi keep drawing attention to Danger Sense so readers notice that AFO isn't triggering the detect-any-animosity part.

There are probably other things but right here, you have my problem with the theory. If Horikoshi dropped the dfo theory, why does he keep drawing hints and drawing attention to them???

#bnha theory #dad for one #bnha salt #I think it qualifies #It got way longer than intended so yeah I might have some... feelings about this theory #bnha

[hamliet]

Do you have any thoughts on the chapter?? For bnha

SCREAMING FINAAALLLYYYYYYY we're about to get Touya's backstory (watch Hori blueball me next week by cutting away). The drama! The angst! The fact that Shouto wants to connect with Touya, and there's a part of Touya that realizes this and wants it too, even when he's trying his damndest to push his little brother away! This is everything I love in a fight--good stakes, drama, angst, justified anger but entirely unjustified actions that only perpetuate harm--delicious.

Also, it's going to get worse before it gets better. Like, way worse. That is how redemption arcs go. Also, I'm not worried about his body burning but people are freaking out so I thought I'd just state that outright. Touya wants to die here and make it his last stand.

Dabi is also right that the issue is ideological, and that the divide can't be breached unless society changes. What he doesn't yet get is that Shouto, Ochaco, and Deku are all prepared to reach them via empathy. Which is how it should go with fighting your shadow: you integrate it into them, you absorb some of their ideals, you find balance.

Now, some salt, but all in good fun (I'm not actually annoyed; I'm laughing).

The most unrealistic part of this manga is how the heroes have survived this long. Where are their brain cells. I can offer one. Or two. Like, come on man!

Heroes: we have no idea what happened in the Todoroki household!

Dabi: I did a whole ass broadcast the internet exists LOOK IT UP

Like I'm sorry but I'm genuinely not sure what we're supposed to think. Like... Enji supposedly admitted it and took responsibility? So are we not to take that as true responsibility? (Please say yes so Enji shows up and sacrifices himself. I NEED IT. not to the death though) But hey, maybe these sidekick heroes will be the ones Enji defends Touya against.

#ask hamliet #bnha #mha #bnha spoilers #mha 349 #bnha 349 #dabi #todoroki touya #todoroki shouto

[redphlox]

Can I ask a controversial question/opinion? I don't think the LOV should want forgiveness or atonement for the things they've done. Would it really be right if they did, even after society/heroes abandoned them? To do evil to live a easier life or just to survive at all and then to spend (likely) the rest of said life apologizing or 'atoning' for it? Is that really a good/heroic message?

*cracks knuckles* alrighty here we go. let's deconstruct this.

Forgiveness, atonement, and redemption are subjective concepts with different definitions that vary from culture to culture and from person to person. I won't be talking about these. What I will discuss is that, usually, wanting to seek forgiveness and make amends is often attached to morality. As in, if you don't want to make things "right" then you're a bad person. For example, some find it easier to accept someone who has wronged them or broken the law if that person at least feels bad about their actions. Someone who steals is often labeled as a bad person. But what if they stole bread to feed their family? What if they did it but feel bad and want to repay? Does that person's feelings of regret change how they are perceived? Yes, usually, because there are a lot of social expectations and assumptions attached to feelings or the lack thereof. This is why phrases like "ugh soandso has no empathy or compassion, they're terrible!" are so common and potentially problematic because it opens people who do have conditions that present with low empathy to stigma.

Anyway, I'm not saying this to suggest any characters in BNHA have low empathy or have mental health issues. I just thought it was relevant because readers usually interpret the media they digest through their own personal views and beliefs. So, to these people/readers, the league has to atone and want forgiveness in order to be stomachable because that's probably the same belief they have toward IRL situations. But this is fiction, and while fiction and reality have crossovers, we need to analyze what the text says.

The LOV isn't asking for forgiveness and Hori isn't dragging them through a process where they have to suffer their whole lives to atone. I've seen readers state this, but it's more of a personal belief. If people think the LOV has to atone because Aoyama feeling bad for being the traitor set the precedent - well, he regrets hurting his friends but probably doesn't regret keeping his parents alive.

The story is stating that true heroes do exist. As in, altruistic people who genuinely want to help others without being rewarded by glory, money, titles, praises, etc, which is what the word hero had turned into thanks to heroism becoming a profession. The story has stated that society creates its own villains by ostracizing those who need help the most. Deku and Shouto and Ochako are true altruistic heroes because they will reach out to their villain counterparts and acknowledge and validate their pain. It's looking like the villains, now hopeful about their futures in a society that accepts them, will want to save society in turn by defeating AFO.

So, I'm not sure where this idea of the villains being forced to do anything is cropping up. The villains always wanted to be part of society. That's why they want to change society, so they can be a part of whatever new society they create. Touya wanted to be part of his family and be good enough. Toga wanted to be accepted by her friends and schoolmates. Tenko wanted to be accepted by his dad, but his dad had unresolved abandonment issues and a negative bias toward heroism because his mom chose her job over her him. Replace "hero" with "cop", "lawyer", "doctor" or any other job title that demands excessive hours away from family and you'd still get a resentful Koutaro who projects this vision of selfish people who value work over family onto his own son.

Anyway, what I'm saying is that the messages bnha wants to convey are being misconstrued and false or hyperbolic messages are being perpetuated. The story isn't making a statement about forgiveness or atonement. It's making a statement about the inherent goodness in people. Yes, there are characters who are trying to atone etc, but that's not a prevailing overall message. That's just one character arc. Overall, Hori is saying that villains are people too and belong in society, and if society would treat them better then the villains wouldn't be so hurt. It's cheesy, but Hori is a cheesy guy.

#Bnha #Bnha asks

[weebsinstash]

The next chapter of The Storm was great! I remember you giving us the little sneak peak of Aizawa dislocating the arm and I was not disappointed, I loved the part where Aizawa realized he fucked up and was to scared to touch y/n and harm them more. And how Hizashi gave her just a little bit longer outside before completely taking that away and bringing her down to the basement. The fact that he was no longer as calm as he was before, no longer saying it’s okay or trying to lie to himself saying it was just a mistake or they were confused. Now just shouting at Aizawa about the way he acted and telling the reader that he was that close to snapping and doing something they all would hate if reader so much as even attempted to escape again. I love it, truly a masterpiece and I can not wait to see what else you make in the future cause I am sure it will be wonderful.

I'd already had certain parts of the story written, but because it had been so long since I updated, I was able to use their past with Shirokumo as inspiration for both their dynamics with each other and with the Reader. Like in Vigilantes, they show young Aizawa training incredibly intensely after Oboro died, basically venting his anger and trauma through physical tasks and trying to become stronger "so nothing like this happens again", and there's a panel of young Hizashi quietly looking on, which kind of implies, at least in my opinion, that Mic doesn't always share his feelings and commonly puts on a happy front to hide how he's really feeling (which he's actually done a few times, like in the anime, when he brings up the aspect of a traitor aka that plot line Hori forgot, he completely drops his joking playful way of speaking and becomes really serious)

Mic's smarter than he gets credit for and I kinda threw that in there as well, with him accusing Shouta of rushing and not getting his insight because "oh he must think he's not as smart or talented" which, honey, projection

And like. I'll just say it cause it's not gonna happen in this series: Hizashi is absolutely 300% implying that he's seriously considered locking up both Reader AND Aizawa and just fucking off somewhere where all of you can be alone together, potentially in an entirely different country. I have an idea for a fic like that and honestly while I'm still feel the crazy poly boy ideas running through my head maybe I should start working on it 👀 especially considering there are quite a few things that have happened in the manga more recently that I imagine would very easily send an already-unstable person completely off the deep end...

#yandere stuff

[problemswithbooks]

I get what you are saying by saying Stains not being that important or at least not being set up for rescue like the others but I don’t know I could see him being Iida’s villain like not all of the class have them but a good few of them have their villain counterparts (Shouto-Dabi, Izuku-Shigaraki & Toga-Ochaco) or the possibility of a counterpart(Spinner-Shoji - many theorise that those two are going to meet, I also see it as a good matchup with them both struggling due to mutant quirk)! So I don’t know I could see Stain being Iida’s counterpart, I just don’t see him dying by Dabi!

Placing my bets Stain attacks, Dabi defends, Iida saves. Otherwise why is Iida there and not Kirishima who can defend against fire I’m pretty sure.

Different anon but similar answers.

I do think Iida is on the Kamino Team because Stain will show up and he'll have to face him again. What in-universe reason they had to put him on that team, I have no idea because Dabi's a terrible match up for him as we've just seen.

Bit I do wonder how that meeting will go because so far non-LoV villains have mostly gotten shafted. Gentle hasn't shown up at all these last arcs, Lady Nagant exploded and diapered, Muscular was deemed pure evil by Izuku in 0.2 seconds and Overhaul was told he needed to feel bad first before Izuku helped him and that was never followed up on. Heck, even Compress hasn't been mentioned since he tore off his butt to save his pals.

For me, I have this feeling Stain will show up for a chapter or two and be promptly kicked into the unredeemable pile along with the vast majority of villains in the series. Iida could still save him from Dabi's fire or a Nomu or something to prove he's the Hero that Stain said he'd never be, but I doubt Stain will change at all or that Iida will try to 'save' his soul or understand him like the other kids are set up to do for the main LoV members.

And to be fair if Iida did try to reach out to Stain it would kind of come out of nowhere. In the very least, even if's it's still last minute, the other kids have shown interest in understanding their villain counterparts. Iida hasn't even thought about Stain for hundreds of chapters, not even after the prison break. Nor have the other kids really talked about their changing ideas about the villains, so it's not like he'd get the idea from them. Sure, Shoto expressed he wanted to know Touya, but that's his brother. Iida has no connection to Stain past wanting to kill him because he hurt Tensei. Wanting to understand Stain would be a huge deal for his character given it's lack of set up.

I also think that Stain is more likely to die simply because Hori had him leave All Might by again stating that he wanted Toshinori to kill him. How that death could play out is still up in the air. He could die to save Iida, or maybe even All Might if he's not immediately arrested again after his fight with Tenya. That of Horikoshi could find someway where All Might does kill him, though it'd probably be in a more mercy situation, because Toshinori doesn't seem the cold blooded murderer type, plus he wouldn't have much power to do so anyway. Weather Stain dies or not, I think that part of his character should probably be addressed because it's one of his few defining traits--wanting to be killed by his idol.

Either way, at this point I just hope that if Stain gets a little more screen time, that Hori gives us a little info page on him like he does with other characters. I mean we still don't know his official height or favorite food, which we get for minor background characters sometimes. I'm frankly shocked we have his age given how little Hori told us about him.

As for Shoji possibly having a moment with Spinner, I could see it. The whole mutant discrimination stuff has been handled pretty poorly so far, and doubt the confrontation will fix my issues with it, but in the very least it'd be nice to have a mutant character on the Hero side talk about it. I do like Shoji and it'd be nice to see Spinner interact with another mutant and maybe have his own thing going on that wasn't so heavily tied to Shigaraki or Stain. Actually finish his character arc of self discovery by seeing his own value and realizing he has his own goals unique to him.

I'd still put him on the possibly dies list because again I think people equate saving=living when that's not generally the case. Shoji could still reach Spinner and help him, but Spinner still die later. He could easily get killed off by AfO, either because he tries to interfere with his plans or given his wired buff state last chapter, maybe AfO rigged him like Nagant and he explodes after trying to switch sides.

Either way I am curious how Spinner's story will play out.

#ask #thanks for the ask!! :) #bnha spoliers #hero killer stain #akaguro chizome #bnha #mha #I am very worried for my man #there's a real possibility that three of my most favorite characters in this story die #and I kind of hate that #If All Might dies though that would be the thing that gets me to walk away #Enji and Stain I could understand #but AM dying would make his previous character growth wasted #plus it's just so cool to have a mentor character live for once #It also wouldn't do much for his character anyway #Toshinori's always been willing to die to save people #even if he died to save Shigaraki it wouldn't be character growth #because it's not like hes been shown to hate him or anything #now gran torino dying to save Shigaraki #that would be growth

[justatalkingface]

I have tons of things to say. But can I say this: do you think Izu is more used to prop others characters and no one does that for him?

Look not saying people need to worship him. But Shoto can traumadump on Izu, but Izu can't ever talk about himself or his struggles.

And I'm not sure if is intentional or not. (I do think Hori is a bad writer, I do think Hori hates his mc but...at the same time, to hate a character you need to think about him...sometimes feels he never thinks about Izu)

Yes.

In a very real sense, this honestly is a lot of Izuku's characterization at this point; sacrificing himself to help others, both as a person and as a character.

Or, to be pithy: Izuku's goal in life seems to be to literally martyr himself for others, in every possible way he can, and there's no sign that's ever going to stop.

There's also the writing, which uses Izuku as a convenient point to support a character or an idea, as a not-so-subtle way to tell the audience that, 'You should like this!', and to some extent, these two things mix with each other to the point where it's hard to distinguish what's what, but...

It's easy to point at, like Izuku being Shoto's trusted vent friend, for example, and say that's Izuku being, well, supportive for one of his friends. That makes sense. Then you think about it and realize that, for all their parallels in situations, with Shoto and Endeavour to Izuku and Bakugou, neither of them ever... bring that up. Izuku never vents back to Shoto, even though I'm sure he'd be happy to return the favor, and Shoto never reaches out to Izuku, his first friend.

Why? Is it because Izuku is too traumatized and too used suppressing his negative emotions to bring it up? Is Shoto still too unsocialized to know to ask? Or does Hori just not want to bring that up?

Any or all of that is probably correct, depending on what point we're at in the story.

And then Bakugou, while we're at it; to some extent, there is definitely some Hori work in the background making sure they're "friends" despite all logic, but looking at how Izuku acts, and how he used to think (because we can no longer see him think on screen any more)... how much of that is forced? How much of that is that Izuku just wanting to help Bakugou? How much is his old awe of his old tormentor, always so superior in every way to the pathetic Deku (and, for the record, I put 'Deku' very much as Izuku being used to support Bakugou, specifically to protect him from having to grow the fuck up and use his actual name), and long engrained habits to the tune of, 'Bakugou is never in trouble, so don't even bother because it will only hurt me?'

Again, the answer is basiclly, 'Yes'.

The thing is, even before Hori started messing up the plot to push one agenda or another, one of Izuku's biggest traits was self-destructive behavior; hell, even as a kid, he would try to protect others, even at his own expense. It's clear that at this point in canon, no matter how much better it should be by now, that Izuku still has no self worth, and thus, little to no need to protect or prioritize himself and his needs.

He doesn't value himself, so him taking on extra burdens from others, and refusing to talk about his own, isn't just likely, it's still canon. But at the all the same....

Like, Endeavour. Izuku spends a lot of time with him, doesn't tell anyone about the blatant abuse, and even tells Shoto 'you're already try to forgive him', and that? That is just so forced. That's just Hori dropping Izuku next to someone he wants to be more popular, and hoping that his 'I'm A Good Guy' energy rubs off.

So... ultimately the answer is C, all of the above. Izuku does his best to be everyone's hero, it tears him apart because that's impossible, and he doesn't see anything wrong with that. Hori is trying to use him to support his other characters, and prevent the parts of him that he doesn't like anymore from coming up, so no one ever really talks about Izuku's problems, even if they actually would, or why he's like this, or how he feels about things, and of course Izuku would never be so rude to bring up his own problems when they could possibly inconvenience someone!

To be frank, at this point being Hori's character support character is so interwoven into Izuku's characterization that we're long past the point where it could be excised realistically; this is something that's ruined his growth as a person for years now, and would require changes to Izuku and others long before The War Arc, much less the last arc of the story, changes that would organically change how people interacted with him and how he responds to them, changes that would escalate naturally over time to the point where many characters, especially Izuku, and even the story itself would be drastically different than they are now.

But... well. Izuku doesn't get nice things. He just gets to be everyone else's nice thing.

#bnha critical #mha critical #izuku deserves better #izuku is traumatized #izuku is used for hori's agenda #those two things are blended together #so we can't even tell what's what anymore #and thats why he never gets to grow

[ofmermaidstories]

Spoilers for the latest chapter of Something!

I'm gonna go ahead and apologize now because this is long; please feel free to ignore my wordy ass, I just have a lot of feelings about a certain someone that showed up in the new chapter lol.

I am still trying to get my shit together enough to write a proper review, but I did want to come yell at you for making the grape boy somewhat likeable, like...

Firstly, how??? Secondly, why?????!?!

Lmao, in all seriousness tho, it's nice to see him have a personality that isn't just "Mmmm, tits" *drools* I like to think that everyone in the series grows up and (mostly) out of the worst of their habits, and while Mineta is still a bit of a lecher here he isn't nearly as offensive/creepy as he comes off in show. In fact he's actually sympathetic in a lot way. The bit about seeing his first dead body before "getting laid" hit different like... He tries to play it off like a joke, but dude has to have just as much PTSD as the rest of them, maybe even more given that he wasn't able to fight back in the same way as someone like Bkg or Deku would be able to with their super powerful offensive quirks. They were all just kids, but they had to face hell full on from jump, and let me stop before I get too in my feelings lol.

In a lot of ways, he reminds of you the boys from school — crude. Taking for granted the safety from being in a pack, unchallenged. Leering at posters, saying off-colour things because no one corrects them.

That's exactly the way I view him, just a crude little thing that refuses to be put in his place for long lol. Still, with his being a hero I would hope that he keeps a cap on it while he's on the job--in fact I'm sure he does; if he didn't I'm sure that Aizawa would've yanked his licence by now, the likes of Deku and Kiri wouldn't continue to associate with him, and that's saying nothing of the shit that would get posted to social mead and such. I feel like the only reason he says what he says to the Reader is b/c she's a little gremlin herself and he knows he's got a bit more leeway, yanno?

The little hangout session that they had at the end of the chapter was weirdly heartwarming?? I want a friend(???) that I can be a surly little shit with and draw on and that will call my bf that's not really my bf but should be my bf because he's (that is Mineta) got more emotional intelligence than me lmao. Never thought I'd see the day when the grape would make for such an excellent wingman--tho I gotta wonder what that text he sent to Deku said. Probably something along the lines of "come get yo girl, she must be bored/lonely af because she asked to hang out with me" followed by "are you ever gonna close the deal or not? or have you already hit it??? >:)" just to give the guy an extra push (or maybe he's got a better sense of self-preservation than what I give him credit for, idk lmfaooo...)

Okay, this is WAY too long, I just had to get it out of my system lol. I loved the new chapter lots and I cannot wait to see how things play out in the next one!!

LOL, oh Puck, i adore you sdlkfjsdlkfjsdlkfj

me being a shit-stirrer/asking myself questions i don’t have answers for under the cut

Cat asked me this question earlier today, actually — why Mineta. And honestly? Part of it is the challenge he represents — like, how do you write him into a fic and mature him up so that he’s at the very least, tolerable, but also keep the backbone of his character (which is being a little degenerate). Like, is it possible? One of the most popular tags on ao3 for mineta minoru is something along the lines of “mineta minoru is replaced with shinsou hitoshi” LOL so…….. why didn’t I just use Shinsou? Or Aoyama or Iida, as Cat suggested? And beyond the part of me that delights in giving myself perceived challenges, there were two stark reasons that stuck out to me, when i was first mulling over his inclusion.

1) the fact that he can draw. it’s literally as simple as that. ever since the BNHA exhibition opened up in Japan and it was revealed that there was a scene in there with a class blackboard and the kids having their little drawing competition — and that Mineta was objectively the most skilled — i was like, “i have to include that”. LOL. it’s like you say, Puck, our Reader is a little gremlin herself — i thought if I was going to write a Reader that could handle interacting with him (ie, be in a position to pay him out) it was going to be this one. I think being in the manga industry and starting out on this journey of creating and drawing a Shonen manga sort of put Reader in this unique position of… being in what seems like a boys’ club? So she’d be used to the male gaze within her field. I follow Horikoshi’s assistant (former assistant?) on twitter and let me tell you, that man is not shy about the things that he likes to draw LOL.

the 2) thing was the philosophy i’ve sort of accidentally given myself LOL and that’s the fact that — as a Bakugou stan, if i’m giving grace to a character who was a literal violent bully then………. i can use my magic powers and hand it around to the other characters, too, LOL. and like, i would argue that with Bakugou it’s different, like we’re currently seeing in the manga how he has grown and learnt and is actively changing, which is the key to any kind of redemption. do i think Mineta will ever undergo that in cannon? absolutely not lmao, i see him as being being Hori’s idea of comedic relief, he’s always going to be a horrible little degen. but i want it for him…… if only to justify why the boys of Class-A collectively ignore his bullshit, for the most part? Like, none of them actively call him out on it?? i think of the time he tried to climb the wall to spy on the girls in the onsen — and how it was literally only Iida scolding him and how it took a child to stop him. Or the one when he found the stupid hole into the girl’s changing room and while the boys all looked grossed out….. Jirou’s the one that point an end to that?????? I saw a TikTok (derogatory) suggesting how like, none of the girls of Class-A would trust Aizawa, as adults, because he didn’t do anything to put an end to Mineta’s bullshit, and it was a devastating suggesting. None of us want to believe that our favourites would be passively okay with this kind of behaviour, right?? Which means……. Mineta’s gotta change LMAO. And if Hori isn’t going to do it then imma borrow him and do it myself. Does it work? I have no idea LMAO i can’t judge anymore, my meter is broken. but i’m gonna work with what i’ve given myself and it either will, or it won’t LMAOOOO kldsfjlksdjflkdj fic is about having fun at the end of the day. :’)

But it’s like you point out, Puck — Mineta is also a child, when these kids get trotted out to their first War. And he’s also not as offensively built as the hard-hitters like Deku and Bakugou and Shouto are. Even if it’s not explored in the manga, that War is going to change them all somehow.

So, my gameplan for Mineta was to grab ahold of the tiny things about him — the talent for drawing, the like one [1] observation he has about the wreckage of the war/pro heroes during the war arc, his tears for Bakugou when B wakes up afterwards and how he tells Deku how cool he was and how much he admires him, in the current Bring Deku Home chapters — and try to envision a sleaze bag who learns that the bullshit he pulls won’t be tolerated, even if he’s still ultimately a skeeze LOL. i mean, he’s never going to drop that er…. appreciation for the female form. and i mean, hey, live your best life King, i’ve distinctly noticed a hand-fetish floating around on this site lately so i’m not gonna be like “NO men can’t like ANYTHING”. But the thing with him being a sleaze and open with his leering is like, he’s actively made the girls of his class uncomfortable with that in the past — how do you write it so that he’s not doing that in a position of power with the women he works with (and saves!), as an adult?? Maturity only goes so far. How much can I bank on the war and the subsequent bullshit they’re gonna face from it on…. transforming him??? It shouldn’t be up to the girls he’s learning with to police him, they’re just children. I have a vague gameplan for it — whether or not it works will be one thing; whether i can naturally shove it into the fic is another, LOL. Guess we’ll see. 🧐

SAYING ALL THAT,,,,, i’m actually really glad you liked (???) the ending scene with him because it’s my favourite LMAO lkdjflkdsjflkdjfkldsjf. 😭😭 Reader is by no means perfect, and she and Mineta both need to start treating each other with more respect, but her bullying of him was fun to write and I like imagining a Mineta who considers himself to be close with Deku (whether or not Deku thinks the same is up for debate) going along with it. i could see this version of Mineta being enough of a shit-stirrer to say something like, “gotta lock that shit down” to Deku LMAO kdfjlkdsjflkdsfjdklsfj and then getting left on a skyscraper somewhere…. RIP short King.

#the puckish rogue: adventures and magic 🪄✨🔮 #something just like this - fic #mer-spoils-everything #ofmermaidstories-asks #mermaids talks about 🍇 #puck you are always thoughtful and lovely with your comments and i want you to know how much i appreciate them — but mostly how much #i appreciate you for existing in this world 😭 and how by chance we exist at the same time and like the same things 😭💕🌷

[haleigh-sloth]

How can Hori save Hawk's arc? I feel like it would of been so much more interesting if he had Hawks seek out Touya to understand him rather than be E's bootlicker. I'm not even sure anymore what kind of role Hawks is going to play in the Todoroki family plotline? I'm sure Hori is reserving the talk about Twice's death for when Hawks and Dabi meet again.

Agh...I'm not the best person to get Hawks insight from. But I'll give my opinion on the things said here:

I personally don't think Hawks seeking out Touya to understand him is in-character for him at all, and it wouldn't have made sense for that to be his arc following the war arc.

Hawks is, for lack of a better term, brainwashed by the HPSC and is not capable of recognizing the flaw in his (and the other heroes') logic without outside force or intervention forcing him to have a change of heart and mind. He found out that his childhood hero is not the hero he thought he was. But instead of being horrified, he decides to "see" the Endeavor "now". Which, he wrongly assumed was vastly different from the Endeavor back then. But he's in denial, and he's clinging onto that childhood hero of his because he started out with NOTHING. And that idea of Endeavor was the first SOMETHING he had. Hawks is a traumatized man with little to no identity outside of being a "hero". So expecting him to suddenly gain a sense of self and just, do the right thing does not make sense for his arc or character imo. He's a flawed character on purpose.

So for the rest of Hawks's arc....if things go the way they were originally set up to:

Hawks is still clinging onto the wrong idea of what a hero is. Imo it would make sense for Hori to follow up on the antagonistic vibes he gave Hawks toward the Todoroki plot line and make him go after Dabi (with intent to harm or even kill) in an attempt to "help" Endeavor. Because Hawks himself said he believes "Endeavor is in trouble". So I feel that his arc should follow up on this thought process and have him act accordingly, in which he views Dabi as this villain and antagonist to Endeavor's wellbeing. Going after Dabi should result in a backfire (no pun intended lol) in which Endeavor steps in to defend his son from other heroes. No, I don't think this is only how Touya sees the light, but it's part of it. Endeavor has to show that he's willing to do whatever it takes, even if it's going against other pro heroes, to save his son. In my head it resulted in Hawks "getting burned" by Endeavor, both physically but also emotionally. I say this for two reasons:

There's the very blatant Icarus call out, with Endeavor being the "sun"

And then there's the fact that Endeavor's endgame is choosing between "hero" or "father", and Horikoshi went out of his way to draw this:

This indicates that Hawks represents Endeavor's "hero" option, which doesn't really fare well for Hawks. Because the choice is obvious.

With that being said---the big prediction I used to see, and agree with, was that Hawks would die heroically. Meaning, he'd come to the correct realization after getting "burned" and his arc would end with him ultimately doing the right thing and sacrificing himself to do so.

I personally don't think that is the case anymore. While I do believe that Hawks will be faced with his decision to kill in some way, and be forced to see some sort of need for change to his idea of heroism, I don't think there's been enough detail put into his inner thoughts since the war arc to go the tragic hero route and pull it off satisfactorily.

I think Hawks is ultimately going to have a happy ending, and end the story as a hero along with everyone else (villains included).

It seems that Hawks's development has been put on hold, stalled, stagnant....just, nonexistent really. So it seems that Hori is going to fulfill his role in the Todoroki plot line as the antagonist (though we'll see, it feels kinda...backpedaled but we'll see), come to the right realization about himself and about what it really means to be a hero, and "make up for" his actions by helping keep the villains safe throughout the final battle (probably having epic moments saving them from stray hits or whatever) and being one of the pros to stand up for them at the end. I think he's gonna have a happy ending because Horikoshi seems very very reluctant to kill off characters. It doesn't even look like All Might will die at this point, more like have the same ending as Hawks where he realizes what he needs to, and acknowledges his flaws.

I don't think people like that idea for Hawks's arc but whatever lol. I'm not open to arguing about it. I'm entirely open to being wrong and honestly I have no idea if any of this previous set up will follow through in the way I described, but I do think Hawks is going to have the proper reflecting moment and have a happy ending. Knocking on wood so I don't jinx it for the Hawks peeps out there.

#bnha #bnha asks #anonymous #hawks #boku no hero academia #bnha predictions

[selkiecoded]

As someone who has read horimiya, ur right. I believe my exact reaction was something like "oh this is interesting and a cool concept where are they gonna go with this??" to "ah. Okay. Sure." Like it wasn't like the worst thing ever but it also wasn't great and I'm sure if a reread it i would be deeply uncomfortable with some of the implications...but god it had potential (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ

no exactly. IT HAD POTENTIAL!!! It had potential to be a deeper story, and thats the worst part. im more sympathetic to the original webcomic bc clearly the author was just going in without a big plan and thats fine, BUT! that means i have to be harsher on the manga (and anime, but i havent finished past e2 so) because it HAD the full story laid out for it. the point of adaptations is to convey a certain idea differently than the source material, and the manga shouldve taken this foundation and adapted it towards a more meaningful story. but nooo…

the suggested premise was that of private identity, and thats an interesting springboard for conflict, but like. nothing happened. it was serious in the very begining and in the very end. after like, volume four (and even then im being generous) it was nothing but pure uninteresting filler, loss of previously established characterization, and extremely weird and abusive tendancies from one of the main characters (i dont like talking abt the weird kink shit bc it makes me uncomfortable but.. yeah..)

like. if the story had bothered to follow issues established from the very beginning to their obvious emotional root, it wouldve been a stronger story. miyamura managed to get the better exploration of his issues - and it really wasnt all that great - from the depression, lonliness, and self harm. but i think the problem is, the author wasnt quite sure what to do with hori, and when shes one half of literally the title “horimiya” this is a big issue. i mean, its all right there. her parents are working all day so shes the one caring for her little brother, taking care of chores, dinner, etc. this, and she clearly tries to go for a cleaner image at school. but the story couldnt figure out how to take her issues seriously, so it never even tried. i mean, eventually they started bringing her parents back into the story which is like! so wrong i dont even know where to start! i mean thats literally a foundational part of her issues, and they got brought back!!!! i fucking hate her dad by the way i hate him so much.

horimiya just needed to like, actually care about hori and miyamuras problems, and not obscure this by “ohhhh whats side character number twelve doing this time!?!?!?!?” every other chapter. ive seen a couple of reviews that marvel at the fact that its gasp, a romance anime where, double gasp the couple gets together before the end of the show? scandalous! ten stars! but even though the issues w horimiya were ignorable for the first couple of chapters, them getting together made the story lose any and all sense of acceleration and thus made every issue of the story that much more obvious. and then there was filler. for sixteen volumes.

again, not even MENTIONING the weird kink shit the author inserted or the like weird homophobic jokes or how hori isnt a tsundere or whatever shes straight up abusive. tip: i am so fucking mad.

#I Can Fix It Though #GRAGGHH ANIME. bad stories are bad BUT STORIES THAT COULDVE BEEN GOOD.. *STRANGLES* #horimiya #ask me no questions and ill tell you no lies #horis parents need to need a divorce and she needs to dislike them and her school and home selves need to be more distant #there are soooo many chapters where its like. yes! yes follow this thread PLEASE #like the chapter where hori rips up her future plans paper TIE THAT IN WITH HER PARENT ISSUES! #MAKE HER FEEL LIKE HER LIFE IS GOING TO BE NOTHING BUT BEING A HOUSEWIFE FOREVER! #and on the miyamura end MAKE HIM NOT FEEL LIKE HES GOING TO LIVE VERY LONG! #like they followed that thread a littl bit with his tattoos and earrings but NOT ENOUGH!!! MAKE IT STRONGER! #put your back into it jesus h. christ!!!!! #raughhhhhh

[izukukuzi]

this is a question that i have in my mind since the beginning of bnha but i never asked anyone, but now i want to ask you: what do you think about the fact that midoriya seems to adore bakugou and to want to be his friends/at his side even if he bullied him and didn't even say sorry? idk if this is horikoshi's bad writing or maybe we have exaggerated bakugou's behaviour or idk, i'm really confused (sorry for the bad english, i hope what i said it's understandable!)

I thought about this ask for a looooong time. I usually kinda have a rough mental outline of the points I want to make when I answer any asks (especially when the answer gets really long jbdwujwjnw) but to be honest with you, nonnie, I kind of don’t know? however, I still want to honor the fact that you asked me (which... thank you??? you could have sent this to anyone, especially since you’ve probably been thinking about it for a while now), so I’ll give you some of my thoughts!!! 

the very first thought I had when I got this message was the context I usually see the “izuku didn’t stop hanging around bakugou despite what he did” argument being made in. a number of people have tried to make it a point that izu deserved the violence/bullying he was subjected to at bakugou’s hands because he was trying to force the other into a friendship, or he was following him around (or my least favorite take: izu was being stalkerish :/) 

and, while that’s not what you’re saying or asking, it does kind of lead me towards thinking of why, as you asked, izuku stayed at his side (and why the previously mentioned argument is wrong).

coming out of the isolation that comes with being diagnosed “quirkless,” I do not think we can fault izu for wanting to hold on to a friendship that’s been there for however long he and bk had known each other prior to the age of four? I mean, realistically, in this equation, you can’t take a four, five, six, seven, or whatever-year old child’s attempts to maintain his social connections as a fault of his own. he’s a kid, a lonely one at that, and if bakugou was who he knew as a friend before he was secluded, I’m not surprised he tried to keep it that way (though I don’t think he kept it that way for long)

some of the very first images we get in the manga are of izuku putting himself in the line of danger to protect another child from bakugou. while I don’t think that was something he “followed” him around for, I do think that izuku ended up around bk more times than not because he did things like this. being able to intervene, even at the cost of his own safety, would mean being around bk, so I figure that contributes to things (in some way or another dnedjnwjnd)

at some point, while I don’t think izu ever stops seeing bakugou as a figure of strength more obtainable to him than his favorite hero All Might, it seems like he does stop seeking bakugou out? from the way we’re introduced to bk/izu’s dynamic in junior high for example (i’m thinking about the moment their teacher said that both of them were aiming to apply for UA), we see that izuku tries his best to make himself small, to not draw attention, let alone bakugou’s attention, to himself... so it’s bakugou, then that initiates their interaction (though he does so with violence, a theme that’ll be followed into the start of their career as students at ua :/). so that then moves away from the “izuku following bakugou” rhetoric and, instead, shows how bakugou’s... irritation/obsession/call-it-what-you-want with izuku keeps them around each other, despite the understanding that bk wants the other at, as we see in ch. 284, “arm’s length.”

and while there’s more I could probably say about their physical closeness, I do want to kind of address some of the other points you brought up sooooo:

I can’t say this for sure, because I have no real way of knowing and can only base my understanding of it off of things I’ve experienced, but I think there’s some things that could explain why izuku “adored” bakugou, despite the way he was treated. 

on a narrative level, hori may have done this to 1) show the goodness of izuku’s heart (because, tbh, if I had to deal with half the shit he did, I wouldn’t be able to muster up a quarter of the kindness and continued grace that izu has). as the audience, we understand how good he is when we get to see him interact with bakugou despite everything, not with bitterness or malice, but with care and, when the moment calls for it (like the sludge attack or bk’s kidnapping) protectiveness. I also think it could be 2) a product of seeing bakugou as an obtainable symbol of heroism. i’m looking over the scene where they fight in ground beta and izu says some things that I think play into what you’re getting at with his admiration (also???????? these boys neeed t h e a r a p y oh my goodness):

(as a child, in a flashback) “Wait for me, Kacchan!”

“... like I said before, because I had nothing at first, along with the parts I hated about you, I saw vividly all the amazing things you could do!”

“You, who had so much that I didn’t have, were an amazing person much closer to me than All Might!”  

“It’s because I thought you were amazing... That’s why... I kept chasing after you!”

(and so you get the idea eubfrunejjs). again, I don’t see it as illogical for a child who wanted nothing more than to be a hero (for someone who kept that dream alive despite everyone telling him it was impossible) to use someone close to him personally (bk) as a model of strength. there’s other role models, like the pro heroes, but bakugou was tangible to izuku; he was within his sights for most of his life. if everyone was constantly showering bakugou with praise, telling him that he has what it takes to be a hero, why wouldn’t izuku also internalize that, hence making the foundation for his nod of respect towards bk? I don’t think it’s a problem of exaggerating bk’s behavior (because he was SHITTY to izu. that is just... not up for discussion???), but more of trying to really get into izu’s mind enough to understand why he may prioritize the things he does, and why his heart is good enough to give bk the kindness that izuku was under no obligation to provide (and I am... working on that point. I love him for it, but it does boggle me at times). 

Now... my last two points (because I’ve kept you here long enough dubwdjnwj). first, I have my opinions about where things are going currently in the manga (like with bakugou’s “atonement” and all that good shit) as well as how izuku’s trauma is portrayed coming out of his past with bakugou, but... I don’t want to speak ill of Hori and his writing abilities or anything. I’m here to enjoy the content he releases and, in doing that, all I can really do is trust that he’s telling the story as he sees best (because it is his story, not mine dbjndwjn).  

and lastly, I think that if we’re moving towards a place in the narrative where bk finally a p o l o g i z e s, then that may give us a chance to explore these ideas more! with bakugou finally owning up to what he did, and telling izuku about it, that may be a chance for izu to also open up himself and share a bit more on where his mind’s been with overcoming/forgiving the past. 

I hope some of this was helpful to you, nonnie!!!

#anti bakugou #no proofreading #because I'm an absolute piece of shit dbswjdjnjwd #so sorry for any mistakes dear #feel free to hit me up again if you want to talk about this more #or about anything really!!! #thank you again for sending this question my way! #I hope my nonsense helped with some of your confusion! #anon #bnha 285