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hazshit-hotel-hater · 2 days

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What gets me with Vel is that we see she has a good rapport with her coworkers/friends. She may sometimes roll her eyes at the other two and their antics and of course when her direct business gets interrupted she gets frustrated, but we mostly see her on good grounds with the rest of the Vees. They respect her when it comes to serious business and in that last scene of the season they all look to be very much on the same page and in it together, smiling about their future... yet fanon (if it isn't infantalizing her as you've pointed out) is constantly projecting "angry black woman" stereotypes onto her.

It's gross and in my opinion clearly racially motivated that they see her as nothing more than a "bitchy" woman of color. While the fanon I've seen also has separate gross issues with Vox and Val they are at least allowed some nuance on occasion, but I just don't ever see that with Vel, she's just an angry woman rendered to the background in their eyes stripped completely of her professionalism, intellect, and cunning. She's one of my faves and it sucks so bad to see.

Hi. :) I wrote 5 paragraphs in response to this question and Tumblr so graciously decided to delete fucking all of it. :)

The Hazbin Hotel fandom has a serious racism problem and not enough people are talking about it. Aside from the infantilization of Velvette, other BIPOC characters are put into stupid stereotypes or treated like children because either Vivzie can’t handle writing competently or the fandom doesn’t know how to behave themselves. This is especially apparent for the women, but—and this is probably the only time I will talk about him in this way—Valentino is also suffering from this shitass issue.

Firstly about Velvette, just like how this said, Velvette used to be treated like a child in canon (now fanon) and is being portrayed as only a sassy angry black woman by the fandom. This is disgusting! I don’t think I need to say that! For some reason (misogyny) the Hazbin fandom just has this thing where they take a POC person or a woman—usually both—and decide to treat them like a child. Best examples being Niffty and Velvette being portrayed as Angel & Husk’s and Vox & Valentino’s children. Niffty is 22 and Velvette is in her 30’s. And of course they are both POC. I know there’s going to be someone accusing me of just whining about racism or being like “not everything is about race” but shut the fuck up because I’m busy talking.

I think the best scene to depict Velvette’s character—even though she hardly has any scenes. It shows that she will and can respect her colleagues but for other people, you either need to give her something she wants or her respect needs to be earned. She literally sings a whole song about it.

For other characters like Niffty I have a post for her in the works so I won’t spill it all here, but I can’t in good faith talk about the racism problem without mentioning Valentino. The fact Vivzie has made her worst character into the basic tall hot hispanic/latino man with the hot spanish accent stereotype. Honestly this sort of stereotype doesn’t bother me much, there’s a few villain characters I like with it like Alejandro from TDI, but Vivzie making this a big aggressive and dangerous POC person abusing a sad little white guy just grosses me out. It’s not like the situation would be any better if Angel wasn’t white, but it really does just leave that extra sour taste in my mouth.

Also I don’t need to explain why 90% of the POC cast being fucking grey or purple or blue is bad right.

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nicolikesmoms · 2 days

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I am going to try to explain something as best i can so it comes out how i mean it but that is something i am the worse as doing. I think that when it comes time to cast rachel in pjo i think she should be white, not because of her original character or i that i think we shouldn't have diverse casting. I think that rachel being white may not have been that important in the books, if rick does it for the show it could make it a bit more layered in some sense, if rachel was white, rich, ect it would contrast to annabeth in a new way. Now when annabeth is insecure about Rachel and percy being close it is bit deeper i guess, now it's oh no Rachel feels societial beauty norms more than me because societial beauty norms are inherently racist and exclude people of color, or like if percy and rachel got together it would be like rachel is giving up more than her cause of her not being a demigod so she is putting herself into more danger, or she has money and her family is influential anf she is setting herself to lose that, ect. When this is stuff that annabeth already doesn't have like white women are constantly praised for doing a lot less than woc in many ways like in feminist movement, i also think it could leave insecurity about being in an interracial relationship, even if it's legal (cause remember it wasnt always legal in the us) it's still not completely excepted by everyone, so now if annabeth and percy get together it leaves room for insecurity about being the cause as to why percy is being treated differently together because they are together in a way that rachel anf percy wouldn't and i know rhis is a kids show but i think even if tjey don't mention it, it leaves room for people to perceive or i cant find the word i am looking for, but it would be very similar to how annabeth in the book was blond and it was don't base someones intelligence on stereotypes but in the show annabeth was black and it still carried the same message but now because poc are veiwed as less intelligent in a lot of spaces because of how they speak like aave, their hair or systematic oppression like public funding in predominantly black areas ect., it takes the same message but makes it more relatable to this time period and for more people, i think that is the best i can explain. If i said something wrong please tell me i would love to learn from it and correct i, this is just my opinion and if rachel was a woc i would not be super mad or like send death threats, (the bare minimum), i will be happy with whoever gets casted these are just my thoughts on what would make an interesting dynamic

#percy jackson #heroes of olympus #hoo #pjo #pjo hoo toa #percy jackon and the olympians #trials of apollo #percy jackson show #pjo show #pjo tv show #pjo series #pjo fandom #rachel elizabeth dare #annabeth chase

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yellowsubiesdance · 3 months

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i think i’ve learned a lot when it comes to not applying my own values to the media i consume

for my script analysis class yesterday, we discussed two gentleman from verona, and nearly every classmate of mine was up in arms about how sexist the story is.

and i'm not saying it's not, or that it's not infuriating to read. but i'm also not putting my energy into getting upset about something written 500 or so years ago. and i'm not about to put my own beliefs onto these characters that are not me. i'm going to let their choices speak for themselves, and interpret it in the context of the story.

all that said, this now brings me to the point of alastor in episode 5, and how viscerally people are responding to it. those of you up in arms about the choices he’s making, and the violent threat he gave husk, you’re missing the entire point of his character, of this place they’re in, of the story being told. he’s an overlord, and he became an overlord by killing much bigger overlords and broadcasting their deaths over the radio.

HE IS NOT A GOOD PERSON.

if you started this show with the belief that every character working the hotel is a good person, you’re in the wrong place. watch the good place if you’re looking for a good wholesome story about getting dead sinners into heaven, because that’s not what this show is about.

you’re more than welcome to hate him after seeing the way he exerted power over a being whose soul he owns, but you’re doing the media you’re watching a disservice by writing it off so quickly. if you don’t like to be uncomfortable watching media, watch something else. this is an uncomfortable show, it handles uncomfortable topics, and it’s going to be an uncomfortable ride, and if you’re not up for something like that, then you should take a break from it and pick up something else. you don’t have to get online and defend your own ideals while you watch a show that goes against your ideals.

#hazbin hotel spoilers #that’s not even touching on the fact that husk was an overlord too #he also owned souls that he used as currency to supply his gambling addiction #he’s also not a good person!!#the majority of these characters are in hell for a reason: they’re not good people #i quite frankly love the way this show blurs the lines between good and evil #our heroes are sinners and overlords and demons. while the enemies are angels. but that doesn’t mean our heroes are good people.#you HAAAVE to come to terms with that!! you have to stop seeing the world in black and white or you’re not going to survive this world #if you’re upset because alastor was cruel to husk fine! be upset! but explore why you’re taking yourself out of that world.#in this world sinners own other people. there’s no ifs ands or buts #‘oh alastor is a poc why would he own people’ he was a serial killer when he was alive do you really think you can apply your values to that #(and this is me speaking as a poc. specifically a mixed race poc.)#i cannot speak to who vivzie is as a person. but i’m interested in the message she’s writing and thus far i’m finding it compelling #it’s a similar story as the good place but it’s going the distance to explore even worse people than those in the good place #i don’t think it’s responsible to write something off just because unsavory things happen in it.#and she’s giving us so many different types of representation that don’t involve race (although we’re also getting a lot of hispanic rep)#just like cool your jets and maybe process some of the anger you’re feeling. and maybe nothing will change.#but if you act. instead of react. if you understand why you’re feeling some type of way and then make a choice.#that’s so much stronger and more responsible than reacting and not thinking anything through #hazbin hotel #alastor #husk #hazbin alastor #hazbin husk #anyway let me get off my soapbox #long post

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shoezuki · 1 year

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one thing that has stuck with me from the latest kerfuffle i got into on twitter is like. there was one person arguin w one the homies that my bio stating i was white isnt accurate because white people cant be people of colour or a poc so putting 'white' in my bio was the reason people wouldnt acknoweldge Im mixed. and like. that shit has stuck w me

cuz to me that seems fucked up towards mixed ppl like me who have that white background mixed with some non-white identity. but thinking about it i can ABSOLUTELY understand the idea of it due to the notion that white people cannot be poc. cuz that sentence in itself is SENSIBLE. like oh Obviously white people cannot be in the non-white community, so therefore mixed people 'cannot' identify as white????

but i keep thinking about it cuz. wow that shit really pointed out an issue that is so obviously present when it comes to recognizing and acknowledging mixed people like me. Because regardless of how much of a Person Of Colour i am or how much aboriginal background i got, i look very white. I have possibly more typically white experiences than typically aboriginal ones. I have blue eyes as when i was a kid I had naturally blonde hair and there was the joke that i was the whitest in my family because of it. which despite the joke is pretty damn true. people dont see me on the street and say oh thats an indigenous person, and the extremely rare times someone sees me as non-white its usually another indigenous person yknow.

I think its like. its kinda led to this revelation of mine i suppose. On one hand i've come to terms with the idea that i am Aboriginal AND white in the sense that i cant just pick either or as both aspects of me have influenced my entire existence as a mixed person. but its really hit home on why i've struggled so much with seeing myself as being in the non-white community or recognizing myself as a person of colour. because the only 'requirement' of being a poc is Not being white. but does that instantly eliminate all mixed white and non-white people like me from being anything other than white? does that not just further the notion that mixed ppl have to just 'pick a side'? Wouldnt decrying my white identity to be a poc then just diminish my own experiences with white privilege and passing as white?

#ask to tag #idk i think its like. when it comes to racial groups and racialized peoples it tends to seem more #black and white (lmao)#in the sense that ethnicity and race isnt something changeable therefore it is treated as more concrete aspects of identity #rather than the fluidity of gender or sexuality when it comes to identity #but in actuality. its really not so easy with race either #like the lines between races and even between that of being white and being non-white isnt so clear #like ive spent years feeling guilt for my identity. as a kid i tried to get rid of my indigenous identity #and somewhat more recently i felt guilty for being white #and its only recently ive resolved that i can be both #but i hadnt explicitly thought about how much of an outlier that makes me #but honestly with mixed white poc i feel its worse to try and limit or get rid of the white aspects of us #like we cannot ignore how it has benefited us or how our general ease as being seen as white has made our lives easier #like i always think of a friend i had in highschool who was also native #but she had the more traditional features of darker skin and black or dark hair unlike me #and we bonded a lot over our aboriginal identity #but the fact she experienced more blatant descrimination than me was a constant factor in our relationship #like it is not something us white poc should not ignore! our expiriences with both privilege and descrimination is unique and unavoidable #i feel the idea of you cannot be white and a poc really tries to bury the privilege of that though. and thus the varied experiences #idk man i been thinkin bout it a lot #like maybe the inclusion of white people who are mixed should be noted in non-white circles more. because of this weird #inbetween we have

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maddy-ferguson · 2 months

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there's a post going around that says "“We need to strive to be more accepting of POC” you guys can’t even handle religion." and like. that's genuinely offensive to me lmao

#and like i say: brf slt #the word accepting. POC the acronym you couldn't even write all of it. again more accepting? just weird to me #and like...literally what. in their rb they say christianity and catholicism aren't the only religions when like...that's the same religion #so im gonna be crazy and assume theyre 14 or just kinda dumb.bc how are you not gonna make sure to be accurate in your big anti-racism rant #wait their bio actually says i'm an adult i promise. they're just dumb then #and like obviously there's not just christianity. i dislike every one of the big three equally because there's no meaningful difference #there to me...and i don't know enough about other religions but i would probably hate many others too because like...i don't like the #content but i also dislike just the concept of organized religion and also just think it's dumb since i'm not in it at all #and like. obviously you're allowed to believe in what you want and i think it's nice that people are able to have faith like i think that's #a nice concept. and yes religions are a big part of people's cultures (something the post says) but like...when you're not religious #religions are literally just cults that worked out but you're supposed to respect them because like we live in a society and it's sooo...😭#like i also think believing in the power of rocks is dumb #i know all about criticism of a religion being racism because french people do it all the time with islam because they just hate north #african people/arabs and black people (but i think islamophobia is mostly aimed at north africans). but like. when people talk about #islamophobia being a real problem it's not about people disliking the religion it's about them talking about it 24/7 just because they hate #the people who follow it when like. literally how is christianity better!!!!! when they're like oh it's so regressive but they themselves #are everything they claim islam makes people (idk homophobic misogynistic etc) like it's very transparent. but you're allowed to not like #religions unless you know blasphemy's a thing where you live. and it's actually very easy to be against islamophobia when it's literally #just a manifestation of racism while not being fond of islam or of any religion. because like. common sense. but anyway #i UNDERSTAND where the post is coming from it's like if you think religion is backwards you're gonna think religious people are backwards #and that includes 'poc' or like saying a religion is backwards is something racists do a lot. but like wdym to be anti-racist #you have to not be critical of religion(s) that doesn't make any sense to me. like if religions are against my values. i'm not gonna like #them😭 'religion isn't just what your parents used to be homophobic against you' well there's a lot of people worldwide who are using #religion to do bad things i fear...the post's arguments dont make sense and i dont care about people believing in whatever but also yes im #gonna think it's stupid and wrong if i think the opinions they have because of their religion are wrong when people aren't religious. like #it's not a trump card. i don't even think that's what that person's saying. but like...there's no correlation between 'not being accepting #of POC' and 'not being able to handle religion'?😭 implying there is feels racist to me literally what...and the reverse doesn't work either #and i'm aware trying to stop people from practicing their religion is like bad and a way to get them to assimilate and like racist and all #that.but that's not 'not being able to handle religion' in a tumblr way it's literally just racism again? and idk just weird it annoyed me #and also i know leftists can be anti-religion in a way that's racist and paternalistic again i live in france

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sukibenders · 11 months

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Me when I search for [insert fandom character] x poc reader: Hi, can I have-

Results: SMUT, SMUT, ROUGH, SMUT, KINKY!

Me: No, I just want something that has fluff, or maybe even angst.

Results: Okay we have one- but it ends in smut.

Me: How about one without any smut at all?

Results: Good luck with that. Next!

#imagines #x black reader #x poc reader #why are most of the results hardcore smut when it comes to these results?#where is my fluff? my angst? etc #it's frustrating when you want to imagine yourself with a fictional character that you like #only for the parts catered to you end up being sexualized #not saying smut is bad or that people can't enjoy nor write about it #but i wish there was a variety

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th3cryptidinvestigator · 1 year

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Just had someone tell me they thought Natalia had an “attitude” and she was “cold” like….

I’m just going to leave these here

#911 on fox #911 fox #evan buckley #911 natalia #ig I got to say this but I’m not saying you can’t not like Natalia #if she’s your least fav character and you hate her go crazy #but I think the fandom lack a very key demographic when it comes to characters like Natalia #as a black fan…a black PERSON I’m not gonna sit here and watch people create this falls agenda #even if Natalia didn’t work out or was ever going to work out #she’s not this bitch people are making her out to be #and it just brings bigger issue I wish I had soemone to talk to with #the racism in fandom is crazy especially since majority of the cast are poc #but anyways the point is you can not like Natali wiht microagression or stereotypes

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angelsaxis · 1 year

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Me personally if I'm refusing to lower my standards for a white-led piece of media I'm also refusing to do it for poc-led media. Like yes people of color should be able to make crappy shows and make bad art but I think people, in their effort to show support for people of color, completely throw standards out the window and it's something that I'm personally not going to compromise on just because the thing is Black-led or something. Like if there's no concern for the craft shown, if the writing is out of whack and the acting is bad and there are things that are just unpleasant to watch, why would I continue? Why would I recommend it? Some people can look past those things; I can't.

And it feels patronizing, to me, to lower those standards just because the thing is mostly about people of color. I've seen people hold back both petty and serious critiques of something they've seen because it's poc-led and again it's like they'd give the art their full attention and their full respect if it was white-led, if it was less diverse.

Yes people of color are allowed to make bad art, but how do you expect them to improve if you show them enough respect to tell them?

#angel posts #thinking of things that have been recced to me #where like. they just werent good #they were black-led but they werent good so i couldnt enjoy them #and id see ppl do the same thing of like #oh its by/about PoC so u should go watch it #and again this ties into what ive said about the merits of a thing not being spoken about at all #fuck im on mobile i cant see this last tag uhhhh #basically when it comes to poc led media standards fly out the window and ppl dont talk about the merits of the thing #they just talk about how marginalized it is #but when it's white ppl folks know the plot #so my question is why exactly do people show this level of respect and interest only when it's white ppl #they dont patronize when it's white folks #ultimately they engage when its white people

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valentinemailbox · 2 years

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you guys need to tone it down with calling the whole automatically deeming queer people as freaks and weirdos like some of us are just trying to exist

#q slur #idk i keep thinking about that reddit screenshot where a trans woman shared her coming out story and the op called her a gender freak #like… idc if you think that’s affectionate you have to be more considerate of who you’re calling a gender freak especially considering that #a lot of queer people still are sensitive when it comes to their sexuality/gender and embracing that #and the process of coming out is already very difficult #like just because you’re calling them freaky in an affectionate way it doesn’t mean that they’re going to view it as affectionate or #positive #also this goes double for white queer ppl bc queer poc (especially queer black people) are more likely to be ostracized and be subject to #ridicule or violence because of their race and queerness

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thenerdcommander · 1 year

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My family is so fucking exhausting I'm so fucking sick of it

#mom was complaining about noise at night so I made a joke about her sucking it up and sleeping in her bedroom with dad (he snores)#and just collect on life insurance #they all pretended I made a threat/serious suggestion despite THEM making ACTUALLY suspicious jokes all the time (about murdering people/#using racial slurs/doling out general hate speech and laughing at it as though it's funny)#and they tried to gaslight me into believing they DON'T say worse shit every time they open their mouths #“We've NEVER heard a joke like that!!! That's messed up!!!” lies. You “joke” about killing/enslaving black and trans people all the time #and you make no effort to make it come off as a joke (because it's not and you mean it) but when *I* make an OBVIOUSLY NOT SERIOUS #comment it's suddenly horrible and I belong in a psych ward??? just because the delivery wasn't to suit you????#then they turned around and cried racist because I called them out on their bullshit because apparently pointing out that the things THEY #say and do they're going to eventually do in front of the wrong person and they will get attacked for it (esp using racial slurs #openly and with the mentality that “Only white people get mad at them!!!” like no I'm sorry that's just not the case) is??? Racist???#POC (black and otherwise) have been telling white people not to use those words for a VERY FUCKING LONG TIME you shitstains #and me saying you're going to get retaliated against has nothing to do with whatever skin color you attributed to that statement. Another #white person would attack you for using those words just as likely as the people you're oppressing. So how about you don't??? Use them???#but nah that makes me racist apparently #racism according to repubs: telling them not to use racial slurs #they seriously cannot fucking grasp that what I said does no harm but what they say ALL THE TIME causes a LOT for a lot of people #but *I'm* the bad guy??? Ok.#my humor and yours aren't comparable but sure. Keep projecting

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zevranunderstander · 2 years

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im too tired to elaborate rn and i already made another post on a similar topic a while back but this modern trend of only consuming "unproblematic" media and shunning media with actual discussions on immorality because the narrative isn't *punishing the bad people all the time* or god forbid, a piece of media where a good person has bad character traits and how people seem to be afraid to interact with media that actually has *problematic* views and opinions is the direct reason why liberal media is so insufferable to watch rn.

there is a really good video by The Closer Look on this phenomenon in action in a recent Dr. Who season, but basically what I mean is, liberal media (and even more outright leftist media, like my arch-nemesis, cloudpunk) are so invested in commenting on what is happening in the world and what kinds of problems there are and what kinds of bigoted people there are, but they don't give you nuance, they only give you a narrative that shows you what the author thinks the correct opinions are and don't let you think for yourself. and because some creators are so scared of nuance being misinterpreted, they create these incredibly sanitized, black and white narratives where the audience can pat themselves on the back because they consumed a piece of media where the villain was an evil CEO and that is bascially the same as activism and also a standard to define that a piece of media is *good*

#myposts #like tbh i think the youtuber i recommend cam be at times be incredibly obnoxious #and i think he tries so hard to sound apolitical that he sounds like a closeted right-wing guy #but he usually has pretty correct opinions on movies and tropes and shit #even though i do NOT think that people only complain that something is political when its badly done #but like i can see where hes coming from w this #like. a gay or black character existing is too political for a lot of people so uh yeah #also. dr who wasn't only criticised for being political bc of the plot but mostly bc the dr was a woman who had poc and lgbt companions #so like. he's not always right gshshshshs

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1327-1 · 2 years

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reblogging a post and then seeing recommended posts bcos of this god forsaken algorithm having the goddamn worst fucking take of lesbianism (white) like. ever.

#im not sorry i would much rather talk to a nice straight man than a fucking white queer #white straight dudes come in and say hi and ask how my day is doing #white queers just point and say what they want and dont even answer me when i say hello TWICE or ask how their day was #and that’s how it be being a queer that doesnt pass the white sightlenses in one of the gayest fucking city i guess #boring breadwhite lesbians can stay the fuck away from me bcos i always catch some racist shit within the 3 seconds of being spoken to #white queers will sexualize black ppl n poc before my very eyes before even treating us like regular fucking people #anyways i cant believe there will be good posts with great info and then cause my dashboard to be fucking colonized bruh its not safe here #.pdf #and the amount of times white queers will say smth completely devoid of intersectionality to be in favor of the oppression race all not #touching grass motherfuckers have their brain rewired to unhingely and taken out violently on the black queers that are just. sitting here

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britneyshakespeare · 2 months

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this is sooooo silly but i keep thinking about it. disgraced would-be-debut author cait corrain (a youtube video about that if you aren't aware of what i'm talking about). i can't remember where it was shown right now that they were talking to a biracial artist they were commissioning to draw a black character for them. for some reason they just kept wanting to like overexplain why they are going to an artist of color and how they would do a better job (why not just tell that particular artist how you appreciate their particular skills?). bc they were like well a white person probably wouldn't do as good a job on it. this might not seem like the most important thing to point out, but you don't need a reason to commission artists of color. you can just do that. there's nothing inherent to the art of drawing that would make white people less able to drawing people of color, or any person less able to draw anyone else with different features than them. especially if what you're seeking is a realistic piece; an experienced realistic artist shouldn't have trouble drawing ethnic features that they don't personally possess.

it felt like cait corrain was just very much overspeaking on troubles with racial representation in popular art. and they don't really know what those problems are or how they arise. when white artists are bad at drawing people of color, it's usually not that they just have some sort of difficulty of perceiving accurate shapes or forms. it's that their stylistic preference has a bias towards lighter skin, eurocentric features, that sort of thing. you don't have to tell an artist "i think you'd be better at drawing this character because you're non-white." like that's just so weird.

oh wait super important edit im making immediately bc i meant to say this in the original post: U CAN HIRE ARTISTS OF COLOR TO DRAW THINGS OTHER THAN PPL OF COLOR. HIRE ARTISTS OF COLOR FOR ANYTHING U WANT COMMISSIONED. U DONT NEED A VIRTUE-SIGNALLING REASON TO DO IT. u could even have them draw one of your white characters (gasp)

#these stylistic biases can affect anyone first of all #as a VERY VERY VERY amateur artist who doesn't do like stylized art or anything #i've drawn a variety of friends and family members and models and it's not harder to draw poc than white ppl. inherently #i actually will say. and this is my AMATEURITY speaking. this is my has-drawn-only-a-few-years speaking.#i have an easier time drawing my own face than anyone else's. which is probably what got me thinking abt this #tales from diana #when i draw another subject who has long wavy hair i'm like oh that's easy that's just like when i draw myself #versus i do need to pay closer attention to different hairstyles and textures #and my own face/nose/eyes are very familiar to me. but when i draw someone else i have to pay closer attention #after all i look at myself in the mirror every single day. whose face am i more familiar with?#that's kind of natural. but no people of color in a realistic style are not HARDER to draw than white people #everyone's got a different nose and different eyes and lips and all that. you pay attention to your individual subject #(i suppose it also bears repeating that poc and specifically black people dont all LOOK ALIKE)#what you're used to drawing and used to looking at will come easier and more naturally for any artist #but if u have good figure drawing fundamentals and arent drawing caricatures #it's basically all the same.#the same in that it's always different bc everyone's different. yeah #does this make any sense?#making it not rebloggable bc im not ready to be having a wider discussion rn im just rambling lol

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wizardpropagandist · 8 months

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my favorite thing ever is watching people trade out the one character of color in a roster in favor of another white [man] we barely know

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thewingedwolf · 10 months

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i wanted to bring up how often books are banned in prisons at work but i’m wondering if that’s too spicy for how affluent most of this area is lmaooo

#there’s like a ‘poor side’ of town bc most west suburbs have one but it is Mostly rich people #not even all rich white people lots of affluent black asian and latino people here #and honestly sometimes wealthy poc are weirder about some social stuff akksjdjd when u assimilate u kinda go hardcore #also chicago brain rot comes for us all #work tag

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nerdvi · 5 months

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In the wake of the whole james somerton fiasco and inspired by this post, I wanted to share a few of my um, soft signs, like, orange flags to detect when someone is bullshitting you.

First of all, I am on the spectrum which means 1) I tend to take what people say at face value and 2) I have a strong sense of justice which makes me prone to biases, all of which combined means I am at perpetual risk of swallowing the bullshit.

So, what to do about it? You turn on the critical thinking and pay attention.

As one of my favorite youtubers, Hannah Alonzo, likes to say: "consider the source, remember the motive". Who is talking to you?? What do you know about them?? What biases might they have?? How do they interact with your own biases?? Where are they talking from?? Is it anger?? happinness? boredom?? Also, why are they talking to you? Are they trying to sell you something?? Are they trying to convince you and why?? How do they go about the finantial motivation, if present? If you have, in this case, a white cis gay man talking to you as it he has it the worst of the worst in the world, there's probably some exaggeration and you should start to wonder. There's a good chance he's bullshitting you.

How they talk about women and POC No, no, stay with me. There's a rule I had back when I was dating men: Always beware of how they treat their mother. With the exception of extremes like mama's boys and cases of abuse, how a man treats the woman with whom they have that familial bond is a good indicator of how they are going to treat you. Do they berate her? speak ill of her? are aggressive or controlling? do they dismiss her opinions? Same with creators, and by god I tell you, specially cis male creators, queer or otherwise, always always beware of how they speak of women, how they treat women, how they treat POC. Somerton had a weird vendetta against straight women. It went mostly unnoticed. Then, he was dismissive towards lesbians and other queer women and it was once again overlooked. Then he went ahead and made sinophobic content about genres and cultures he knows NOTHING about. Again, it went unchecked. What I am telling you is IT'S NOT NORMAL. Contempt about women and non white-western cultures is not normal and if someone has them as them as an enemy or a scapegoat, they're probably bullshitting you. Take what they say and fact check it, see for yourself.

If at any point in a video or an essay you find yourself thinking "wait, really??" then it's time to fact check. Is it a bit suspicious?? is your logic telling you that's not quite how this works?? Then take to google, my friend, they might be bullshitting you. At worst, you dodge a fake fact, at best, you learn way too much about a topic you were already interested in.

Beware of the lack of nuance. I can not stress this enough. We all love monochrome, but life and societal issues are never black and white. It's just impossible, there's too many factors to consider. If you are being presented situations or anecdotes as absolute truths, you're probably being bullshitted. If it's too good to be true, it is. If it sounds waaay too convenient, it probably is. A good researcher, a serious investigator, will always have some nuance because they have done the work and checked the sources. If someone provides you 1) no nuance and 2) no sources, THEY'RE BULLSHITTING YOU.

These are the ones I can come up with just of the top of my head, I'm sure there's more and please, add them. Remember that naivité isn't a crime, I'm fairly naive and that's made me distrustful, and these are some of the techniques I've found that help me navigate through a world of information without losing myself.

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