#butchphobia

[princessefemmelesbian]

Not to be rude but a lot of white lesbians on here will see an attractive white(and especially if they're skinny, conventionally attractive, cis, and feminine) woman and go "omg she's so pretty and gorgeous and elegant, gosh, why are women so beautiful! I want her to hold me and hug me and kiss me!" but the second you see an attractive non-white woman(especially if they are fat, trans, dark-skinned, or butch, but lbr y'all do this to femmes of color as well due to how masculinized we are), suddenly y'all's brains short-circuit and you don't know how to complement us without depriving us of our humanity because you still internalized the idea that woc are wild impure animals and so out comes the "omg I want her to step on me and choke me and slap me across the face and make me her slave!!!" and y'all think it's okay because you're making yourself "subservient" to us but really all you're doing is reinforcing harmful stereotypes of woc as more aggressive, sexual, violent, inhumane, and less feminine, sweet, loving, and/or gentle than white women, and you guys think it's a compliment but it's really fucking not and I'm here to tell you that being a lesbian doesn't invalidate your white privilege if you talk about and fetishize lesbian woc this way. 😡

#lesbian #lesbophobia #racism #misogynoir #masculinization of black women #butchphobia #femmephobia #fatphobia #transphobia #transmisogyny #trans #trans women #black lesbian #black femme lesbian #femme #femme lesbian #butch lesbian #white supremacy #op #white femininity

[faggy--butch]

I've been out as both a trans man and a butch lesbian at different times and I feel like, if I make a post about feminism or talk about how women are treated or anything revolving sexuality or sexualization or honestly really anything, in "leftist" spaces;

people treat me with MORE misogyny if I tell them that I'm a trans man vs telling them that I'm a butch lesbian, being a trans man really does give people permission to treat you with absolute vitriol.

It's the same kind of opinion they hold regardless, but they really just let loose if I say I'm the first one vs saying I'm butch, which causes them to pause more, and be less open about it. I have the same knowledge regardless of my identity, the information and experiences I'm giving you are the same. i'm bigender, so I'm both, but as a trans man it's like I've have to detranstion myself, I have to hide one side of my identity that's just as important as the other, to even be listen to at all. I know this has been said before. I've seen it, but to have it happen to frequently to me is really really weird

#transandrophobia #butchphobia #exorsexism #misogyny #also being bigender really opens a whole other can of worms #but this is about those two distinct identities

[redrockbutch]

Cishet Girlpower Feminist incapable of the self reflection required to admit having deliberately socially ostracized the GNC little girls they went to school with until all the girls in the entire class thought they were too gross and icky to even be around: ever since I was a little girl I have known that GNC women are treated better by men, because men hate femininity. My proof? Well, they were always hanging out with the boys, weren't they?

#butch blogging #butchphobia #misogyny #I was sexually harassed by the boys constantly but they were the only social group I had thanks for asking! #would've been nice to have a community of girls but you all told me to stop following you any time I tried to make friends :)

[lunaathorne]

browsing through one last stop edits and am ever so certain that some of you simply choose to refuse to acknowledge the fact that jane is a chinese butch lesbian and not a skinny pale femme with a shaggy wolfcut........ please try harder to source better pictures of butch lesbians, it's so tiring to see this erasure. jane does NOT look like this!

Like???? this is not jane lmaoooo. she is a queer punk leather dyke!!! not an ulzzang korean girl!!!some of you cannot imagine butch lesbians as "aesthetic" and it fucking shows.

THIS IS HOW JANE LOOKS BTW

STOP ERASING BUTCH BODIES FOR AESTHETICS. BUTCH = BEAUTIFUL.

#mimirants #one last stop #casey mcquiston #ols #litedit #litblr #books #lesbian #butch lesbian #butchphobia #sapphic #wlw #jane su #biyu su #august landry #booksociety #lgbtq #bookblr

[yharnamsnewslug]

People often think that because misogyny is still an issue, that there are no feminist spaces where the main idea is that the patriarchy is bad and must be toppled down. So you get a bunch of people who deny trans men's lived experiences within these spaces that led to lived trauma and transphobia.

"NOBODY is saying that we should kill all men!"

Except it's so prevalent that I've seen trans men from all over the internet talk about the impact it has had in their lives, how long it took them to come out, how many friends they've lost for coming out, and how guilty they've felt about being men.

"NOBODY thinks trans men are gender traitors, only terfs do!"

You'd think that but I've lost a good amount of friends because I decided to medically transition - in fact an ex girlfriend threw a fucking vase at my face and blamed my transition for the reason she was depressed - and this pattern is repeated with every trans man I've known.

There is a very big fucking problem of sexism in queer spaces - both misogyny and antimasculism. And it has shown its ass with butches, it has shown its ass with trans people of all sorts and it has shown its ass every fucking time we try to talk about it.

This is a post made to say: shut the fuck up. I don't care that you hate all men, it makes you look stupid, insensitive and selfish. The safety of trans and GNC people around you are a thousand times worth more than your need to let everyone know just whaaaat a good feminist you are, because feminism is radical in every way to you unless you're called out for it.

Anyway, yeah, if you perpetuate this shit then I don't give a fuck what you have to say. You're dangerous to trans people and gnc people. Fuck you.

#transphobia #transandrophobia #transmisogyny #butchphobia

[ftmtftm]

What is butchflight? /genq

Butch flight is the term for the argument that "trans ideology" is causing butches to transition and be men. It's the TERF "boo hoo all our beautiful masculine women think they're men" argument, though it's existed as an anti-trans masc scaremongering technique since at least the 90's and the beginning of the third wave's glorification of the female body and womanhood.

It's explicitly anti-trans masc and easily identifiable as such because... what other "butches" are "fleeing lesbian spaces to become men" than trans masculine butches and trans men (many of whom weren't actually butches or even lesbians to begin with but still have "we're losing our lesbians" thrown at them)

#asks #anon #transandrophobia #transmisandry #butchphobia #butch flight

[thee-radio-host-is-a-kookaburra]

I originally came up with the phrase “live experiences > your rules” to talk abt transphobia against trans men. I’m now thinking abt how this phrase could 100% apply to many other identities that also get shut down when talking about their discrimination. Here’s some blinkies for y’all ^^

#transphobia #transandrophobia #anti transmasculinity #biphobia #panphobia #exorsexism #enbyphobia #aphobia #acephobia #arophobia #transmultiphobia #intersexism #butchphobia #my banners #flashing #eyestrain #gif #blinkies

[princessefemmelesbian]

I don’t think/know if enough people talk about this but why is most lesbian/wlw representation in media “light-skinned/white partner is more feminine and dark-skinned/Black/poc partner is more masculine” like why tf is that. Give me more wlw couples where the more feminine partner has darker skin/is the poc in the pairing. 😪 Signed, a Black femme. 

#lesbian #lesbophobia #femme lesbian #butch lesbian #femmephobia #butchphobia #racism #misogynoir #op

[faggy--butch]

Where does the idea that it's easier and less dangerous for women to be GNC than men come from? I mean I know It's based out of anti transmasculinity and it obviously ignores the lived experiences of butches and trans men,but I see it over and over and it's like.. does it get repeated because it sounds like it might be right?

Clearly the people spreading this idea haven't interacted with us at all because I've seen that once they DO, they take it back immediately, but like good god I've seen it so many times. it drives me absolutely crazy where does this shit come from?

#transandrophobia #anti transmasculinity #butchphobia

[genderkoolaid]

it's so exhausting how people are always so quick to remind everyone that butches AREN'T men. like it's the worst thing in the world. like "sure, maybe he uses he/him pronouns and wants top surgery/packs, but butches are WOMEN, or nonbinary basically-women, but never MEN!!"

and like. to be clear a lot of butches aren't men, and butches usually have very nuanced and interesting takes on gender and womanhood and butches shouldn't be called men when they aren't.

but. as a butch myself who has been butch since I was in 5th grade. sometimes butches are men, at least a little bit. and we have to accept that.

sometimes butches are men, and they are still butch. maybe even still a lesbian. whether they are partially men or fully trans men, we have to stop acting like there is a hard line between butches and trans men. we have to give butches room to exist completely. constantly barring butches from any sort of manhood puts incredible pressure on butches to NEVER be men, to always stay attatched to womanhood is some way. and butch trans men will repress our identifies to avoid being seen as traitors and disappointing our community. we see people talk about how butches ARE SO DIFFERENT from men and men are awful and disgusting and can never love a woman like butches do, and butches who are men in some way? hear that. internalize that.

and this is specifically focusing on AFAB butches, but butches who were AMAB and are kind of men? god save you. AMAB trans people, especially lesbians, are so pressured to distance themselves from any connection to manhood. AMAB butches are already hated on enough, and AMAB butches who are also men get hit with it even harder. there can't be too much room for butches to explore their gender because if they go too far and realize they might be men, it's treated as them Abandoning Womanhood and Betraying Lesbianism and everyone flips their shit over "butch flight".

Sometimes butches are men. Accept that. Stop creating a hard, impassible line between butchness and manhood. Give butches room to explore masculinity and, possibly, manhood without constantly reminding them that being a man is the worse thing they could be. Part of the beauty of queerness is the blurring of lines, and the love and connection and community we find in those blurred lines.

#m. #butchphobia #antimasculism

[butchcharliee]

It's insane how people even some lesbians hate gnc/masc/butches/studs. They hate the masculinity that we express because they think we're "trying" to be like men. I've seen some express that lesbianism is for feminine cis women only?? It makes me so sad and hurt how people essentially bully and invalidate us for presenting masculine and us wanting to be seen as someone who is masculine and not a "pretty princess" feminine girl. As if I don't see people equate butches as men and say we have "male privileges" when we are also victims of misogyny. I've noticed a lot of these people are just straight up transphobic.

As a transmasc butch lesbian who does experience euphoria when called a boy and likes using male terms, I'm not "literally just a man", my identity is beautiful and valid. Transmasc butches have been around since before I was even born.

I also want to state that if you're a butch who still likes to be feminine in any way, you are wonderful and lovely!! There's no one fixed way to be butch. We all come in different forms, and every form is valid. And for butches who do identity as a man, they are also valid! The thing about being masculine is that it can look and be whatever you want it to be. To be butch is to be your authentic self. However, that may look like!

[t3rfs dni]

#i just wanted to rant bc ive been seeing absolute nonsense about butches lately #also sorry if things are worded weirdly #i hope this comes across well #i just want the butch hate to stop :( #lesbophobia #butchphobia #transphobia #transmasc #butch #lesbian #dyke

[uncanny-tranny]

Unironically the worst trope (I think) is when somebody makes a butch or GNC character who secretly longs to be feminine, and is almost obsessed with learning how to be "better" (which is seemingly always in context of being more feminine)

#butchphobia #gender nonconformity #there are of COURSE ways to explore femininity as a butch or GNC person... #...but i hate when their butchness is treated as a flaw and they need to be 'put in their place' #and they need to be TAUGHT that GNC is this ~horrific~ ordeal that deprives others of their femininity #like... since when do GNC people of ANY type owe you jack shit? #i support gnc people and whatever exploration they decide to do #but don't be an outsider who says their experiences are wrong and you are OWED their conformity and ~beauty~