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thewales · 2 years
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Prince George, Princess Charlotte, Prince Louis
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brf-rumortrackinganon · 2 months
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I have a theory regarding the affair rumours. This is based on coverage about W+C+H from way back in 2015/16/17/18, from rumours and "tea" dropped in royal forums and blogs and from what the royals have said themselves.
Back in 2015/16 is when Harry and William are said to have been doing some therapy. They may have started before, but this is when it first starts appearing in articles/blogs/rumours. This is when I think they are conceptualizing Heads Together. And william has since said that he was doing therapy for a few years and realizes it's benefits.
Then there were rumours that William and Catherine were also doing, or at some point did, couple's therapy together. Louis wasn't born yet. They had 2 toddlers. They were about to move to London and become full time royals. Heads Together, a mental health initiative, was in the pipeline about to be launched. Catherine's brother was going through his own very serious mental health crisis which hadn't come to a head yet but allegedly the whole family was supporting him with counselling and therapy sessions etc.
So what I'm trying to say is that both Catherine and William were undergoing a huge change and had stressors in their life and also had mental health experts available at hand and understood the importance of talk therapy and mental health interventions. So it's likely and logical that they themselves did take couple's therapy for a while, besides individual therapy as well.
We know William has said as much, and about how helpful he found it. Catherine hasn't spoken about her personal experience but has talked about how helpful it is. So we can probably draw a conclusion here that she did do it too.
Now, to the outsider looking in they are a happy couple. And back then bit many people talked about therapy. So when Meghan came in, Harry probably told her or she found out that the Cambridge couple goes for therapy, and that it was very beneficial to them without knowing the details of it. So, petty that meghan is she draws the conclusion that the stressor on their marriage is that one of them, William had an affair.
She also probably does not understand the living arrangement - having a main home Anmer but also having a London base at KP. Or why William or Catherine frequently go there even when the other isn't there. That's a very specific BRF thing and she wouldn't get it.
Trying to be snarky she probably made a snide remark to Catherine that couples who go for couples therapy usually go if they are on the brink or breaking up, or have had an affair or hate each other. This is a rumour that Deux Moi propagates, that Meghan "told" Catherine William.was having an affair and Catherine got offended (rightly so) saying it's none of her business (IMO Catherine may have meant it's none of Meghan's business why they do therapy).
Now, back in 2018 when the affir rumours forwt started there were some posters on royal blogs providing some inside info. This was mainly to give context about the Will aim+Rose+David dynamic.
Remember, Rose and David are mainly based in Norfolk. Catherine and William had just moved to London, but continued using Anmer as their vacation+holiday+weekend family base. So sometimes, there were situations where either William or Catherine were at Anmer with the kids while the other was at KP.
The two couples also were close, hung out socially and privately, had the same set of friends that they privately hosted all the time.
Now here's some info/rumours about their dynamics-
1. Rose and David were having problems and talked about it with the Cambs. W privately met them/Rose a few times when he was at anmer. During this time Rose's visits to Anmer increased or it seemed so because David was usually away in France.
2. W told Rose/David that marriage counseling helped him and Catherine and they should try it too. W was there as a friend when his friend was going through a hard time and this got spun into a horrible rumour.
3. Rose actually did not like Harry because he was a horrible guest when they invited him. They also preferred hosting couple friends and eventually Harry was dropped from the guest list. Harry holds a grudge and used to say mean things and make jokes about Rose bcz of this. This came from someone who was supposedly a housekeeper for the Chulmondleys.
4. Harry stopped being invited to Anmer as much, even though William would host his male coterie over. Even if Catherine was in London, sometime William would host weekend hunting parties etc. Harry wasn't invited or wouldn't go. Meghan spun this as William is doing something secretive over there and so he doesn't want Harry around.
5. The supposed rift between Catherine and Rose was a nothingburger. Catherine had just moved to London with two toddlers and couldn't be as involved with her Norfolk set. So rose wneti ahead and organized/hosted some society events on her own without Catherine's involvement. This makes perfect sense to me, but the papers spun this as a rivalry.
6. Around 2016/17 when Meghan had essentially moved to London, W+C and their set would have parties or getaways at anmer but Meghan wasn't invited or Harry was never told. Or the plans were never made keeping HnM's availability in mind, so Meghan was jealous. Harry didn't care/notice because he was hardly a part of it before. Meghan spun this as William trying to keep Meghan and Harry from Norfolk/Rose for some sinister reasons. In reality, HnM were busy hobnobbing with the Cotswolds set.
Anyway, this is a long post. So I should cut it short now. But I basically think that Meghan invented the affair rumours as a joke because she found out William and Catherine were doing marriage counseling.
I am aware of the marriage counselling rumors/theory about William and Kate. I don't know that I buy it. No marriage is perfect and I'm sure William and Kate have had their own share of issues but to say they had marriage counselling because they talk about the benefits of therapy is a bit too far for me, knowing how private they are, but you do make some good points.
4. Harry stopped being invited to Anmer as much, even though William would host his male coterie over. -> This one is new to me. I heard a version that it was Rose who had stopped inviting Harry to her parties and events.
It does make sense that William would pull back from Harry too around that same time. I've always felt that the cracks in their relationship were there long before Meghan came around.
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Are the Camb kids still assigned to Cambridge? I’m not certain of the protocol once their parents became POW....Aren't they Wales now?...Yes. Prince George of Wales, Princess Charlotte of Wales and Prince Louis of Wales I think the Duchy of Cambridge will probably lay dormant now until George marries (if Charles us around then obvs)
Thanks!
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washingtonandwinter · 2 years
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One has to wonder what truly is going on with the Harkles. Their actions are bizarre.
1.  Mr. Eco-warrior- Travalyst {whatever that is} flying private.  And then releasing pictures of the plane.  No doubt similar to the one used by the ghoul in Texas.
2. In the middle of a lawsuit against the Home Office- Rolling down the window in a bullet proof car.  Guess not scared enough to get a picture.
3.  Everyone knowing that all Senior Royals including the Cambs had duties to perform on behalf of the Queen.  Pictures everywhere.
4. Yet now complaining that the the Cambs did not come to some birthday party while they were in Wales?  First it was a private party.  Then it was the Tindalls and Phillips kids along with Autumn were invited.  And now the most provable lie of a story.  Which for them is just stupid.
5.  Their story changes by the hour.
6. Scoobie stirring it up about a 4 year old who stood and was talking to the Queen on the balcony.
7.  Once the balcony was announced- within minutes stating they were coming.  WHY?  Did they not get the message or did Harry think he could charm his Grandmother to include them?
8.  The Queen answered that by sticking Prince second row across the aisle Harry in his place.  Guess she wasn’t charmed.
9.  How many balcony stories did we have to read?  Seriously.
10.  Netflix was refused credentials.  So in the pea brain that they split bringing their own photographer would be the answer to get around the Queen.  Never happened.  No shots for sale.
11.  They were humiliated because they humiliated themselves these past 2 years.  They are not Royal.
12.  And finally a picture of a cute baby.  No party balloons, no digging into cake etc.  Wonder if anyone showed.
13.  This weekend was about the QUEEN.  They never got that.  And the public let them knew how they felt.  Period.  The booing was real.
14 The Queen has been photographed with George, Charlotte, Savannah as babies.  All her great grandchildren have been photographed with Louis in her lap.  But the pictures were private until Philip passed away.  Then with HER permission they were made public.
15. Something seems off kilter with these two. Ego, lack of intelligence and the complete denseness of what they have done.
16.  Where was Archie?  Surely he would have enjoyed the pageant.  Yet he was on a private plane heading back to a world that is simply make believe.
17.  So no picture with the Queen and Scoobie missed the crowds and all of the excitement of the Jubilee.  Why bother coming at all when every minute had been planned for those who mattered.
18.  And no one is duller than these 2 and Scoobie.  NO ONE.
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the-empress-7 · 1 year
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Remember at the Sandringham summit, Meghan wanted to be on a video call and the palace said no? Both of them were making video diaries at the time, they had been recording all their own video calls, screenshot FaceTime calls. No wonder the palace was so adamant that they even sent out a statement about not have Meghan on call. They would have recoreded that as well.
Also, anmer/KP pics with the kids also probably happened. It's definitely one of the reasons the Cambs kept their distance. Damn, now I want the real behind the scenes, not this peptoid version. Do you think she has a video of Kate not giving her a lift to the shops?!! 😆😅
haha probably a live reaction video with one left eye tear
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sassyfrassboss · 2 years
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Petty I know but I am looking forward to 20yrs plus time when the Windsor kids start having kids of their own and the markles are pushed further and further down 😀
Just think, Lady Sarah Chatto was once 7th in line to the throne. She is now 27th.
I hope each of the Camb kids have 5 kids each.
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houseofbrat · 1 year
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Hard disagree on the conjecture for Cambs arriving late to the Coronation. They were late. They were busy on their PR film shoot but a last minute bathroom break from Louis caused them to be late?! NO.
They then followed up the bad manners of being late by choosing to throw The King under the bus with their misleading statement. Now the rumor mill wants to use The King again as if he somehow sanctioned their behavior. NO.
And what is this incessant need to make excuses for them? Wailers will tell you William is BoS$, an alpha dog, that Catherine has untold power. But anytime they’re held account for their choices, it’s needed to bend over backwards to excuse and coddle them or else you’re a HAteR? NO.
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I find what the Royal Foibles dude said credible. This is mainly because he doesn't have a dog in the fight between the stans of different British royals. He writes about a bunch other royals or other old time celebrities such as Jackie Kennedy Onassis.
A last-minute bathroom break by a five year old is quite realistic when you consider the behavior of four- and five-year olds.
Charles & Camilla being so early as to cause & block Will & Kate and kids from arriving isn't as plausible as certain Wales fans/stans would like to believe. The horses and their driving teams practiced the route from Buckingham Palace to Westminster Abbey prior to the coronation. The driving teams had a good estimate of how long it would take them to do the route and arrive on time.
The non-reaction by Buckingham Palace to the incident confirms that Charles & Camilla aren't concerned about the incident. Also, BP & CH household & officials don't seem to care about making corrections, which they probably would if they were more concerned about being thrown under the bus in this instance. But they clearly aren't making any moves regarding it, so they must see it as insignificant in the long run.
Kensington Palace's statement blaming The King & Queen for being early is typical William overreaction. It's the same overreaction that happened regarding William's speech at the end of the 2022 Caribbean tour, and the same overreaction that happened in Boston over Lady Susan Hussey. I'd bet that he had his communication officers overreact because the real reason does involve Louis and his potty story.
I agree with your last paragraph. Any minor critique of the Waleses causes an absolute meltdown by some of their fans/stans.
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ladykinrannoch · 2 years
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They have know for a few months that the Q will pass my guess Harry was just recently told which is why the book has been delayed the Cambs move to Windsor and the kids moving to a new school all makes sense they knew i
I can't find my reading from last year or the one from early this year, but I foresaw a terminal illness. In the last reading where I wanted to know whether she would be with us for the Jubilee, the cards were clear that she would and that she would pass between the end of the summer and before December. So it was not entirely unexpected by me, but it is nevertheless a shock.
I also had a premonition some time ago of her returning by train from Scotland.
I do believe that the family were told some months ago. Yes it is possible that H was only recently told.
It also explains why I saw Adelaide Cottage as very transitory in so many readings on that subject. I expect they will move into Windsor Castle as soon as decorum allows.
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formerlyroyal · 2 years
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Jeez so embarrassing, cringe and pitiful. Harkles both deciding to crouch down near the kids near the window and pretend to play cute aunty and uncle to at least get some photos. It showed on their faces, this is horrible for them - back to a family that you trashed publicly and that hates you, back to a country that loathes you, being back with zero success, being relegated to nothing. They deserve every moment of this humiliation. I don't care abt TQ, I love the Cambs & I'm loving it.
Why did they come. They hate the BRF so stay home. I really hate them. Pathetic thirsty losers. Clearly they have nothing in the works that is viable. Leeching off the family as usual.
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skippyv20 · 1 year
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Did anyone raise questions on how a video of the kids on carriage at WC was obviously filmed from an upper floor so an insider leak. Article on great grandkids will ride in carriage for PJ at horse show including Wolfie which turned out to be wrong. IMO Yorks were written all over that video/leak bc of carriage ride then somehow the "public" knew the exact moment Cambs & Yorks were leaving WC (Sienna, Wolfie, PL) then all York kids debuted at PJ after months of back of the head shots on IG. JMO
I have no idea, sorry…anons?❤️
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thewales · 2 years
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honestly if any of the Camb kids sat down politely and did nothing the whole concert they would call them Robotic and creepy, these people just hate the kids for the sake of hating them lol
Agreed. People when they want to criticise will do so no matter what.
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mrmrswales · 1 year
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How did you do on your predictions this year?
2022 Cambridge/BRF Predictions
The Cambridges will go on an Australia/New Zealand Jubilee tour
Only William will go to the US for Earthshot
Kate will further develop her Early Years
Hannah will be leaving her post as Kate’s private secretary
Official plans for Apt 1 - they will become the official offices for the Cambridges
George will start attending more official events with his parents
Talk will begin about George attending Eton - he will btw
William will receive a major promotion for his 40th
There will be official pictures and a postage to mark William’s 40th
We will get photos for Kate’s 40th
Kate will get a major military assignment
The Cambs kids will ride in the carriage for TTC and will be seen at other events for the Jubilee
Both William and Kate will take on half a dozen more patronages each
William will surpass 300 engagements for the first time and Kate will be between 150-200
Depending on covid, there will be a second tour in the second half of the year
the year will end with a new King/Queen and a new Prince/ss of Wales
BRF Predictions
HM will pass away this year
Her funeral will eclipse any other funeral we’ve ever seen
Nothing significant will get reported about the bullying claims
Andrew will be forced to give up all his remaining charities/patronages
The Duke of Kent will be retiring from royal duties
H’s book will cause anger in the UK but not from the royals, from the people
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Not surprised at all by the Andrew ride along.
First of all let me say I love KC lll BUT I can also believe he can be a little stinker too.
With all this discussion about PH being totally iced out with no way to return and the problem with Prince Andrew, AND with The Wales being sooooooo popular——we are neglecting in our discussion, KC lll high aptitude for…triangulation and palace politics.
Prior to the arrival of MM and PH’s departure, Charles and William weren’t super tight buds. The then Cambs treaded lightly and decisions came from QEII. By all accounts the relationship between PH and Charles was much closer. And he didn’t mind playing one of the little princes against the other.
While I don’t see KC III doing anything to completely undermine PW future reign, I don’t think he has a whole lot of interest in letting PW off the leash to substantially outshine his own time as monarch.
Enter Prince Andrew—he is going to be The Wales problem. PH may as well get used to less than perfect family members and how best to deal with it. Think of it as military basic training for future monarch bc PW is going to have a lifetime of conflict from PH —wife, ex wife, kids etc…
Prince Harry does still have value to the crown—he has two interracial children and they are blood princes. That is really beneficial to the Commonwealth. They have to fit in somewhere and somehow regardless of their mother stunts. The question is how without getting tangled up with MM garbage?
It’s going to be interesting and ultimately, it will be Princess Catherine who finds a workable solution…or lol her mother.
I doubt it's Charles being a stinker. Sadly, Andrew will likely outlive Charles, so he is going to end up being William's problem. I understand that.
But the car drive is going to be interpreted as a show of support, and I think that's a mistake.
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celticcrossanon · 2 years
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The Sussex managed to get out of the bus ride to the horse guard parade and got into regular cars. They had to roll down windows to be seen and waving while people ignored them (tho some snapped photos) I’ve seen it on some blogs. It’s pathetic but Meg got what she wanted she was seen. Also I’m convinced Meghan sucked up to the royal kids because she was shushed away from the Cambs kids main window so she went to the Phillips/Tindalls which would explain Anne’s rage
Hi Nonny,
I wonder how they got the regular cars? It doesn't matter in the end; they were not in the carriages or with the Queen and that is where everyone was focusing their attention. It does seem very likely that Meghan went to the kids as they were seated at the window so they could look out, and that way Meghan would also have her photo taken. Again, that just goes to show that there is nothing that Meghan will not do as long as she gets her picture in the papers. I agree that Princess Anne is most likely furious because of how her grandchildren were used by the Harkles.
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the-empress-7 · 2 years
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Here’s the main difference: the clips of Louis being a 4 year old trended because parenting experts, regular people, and anyone who has ever dealt with kids could relate to what Kate was experiencing as a mother with an overtired, overexcited kid at a Big Event. The images of the Cambs all tell a story: shy George, cheeky Char. L is a cute redhead, but that’s it. We are not even given narrative of happy family or loving siblings, and there’s nothing else to say asides from, “Aww,” and move on.
You are absolutely on point with this. The Harkle children are one dimensional at best, to the public they are nothing more than a carefully staged photograph. No personality. No history. We as humans relate to stories, not to pictures of random strangers.
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sassyfrassboss · 2 years
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I know people are mad about the DM story about the Cambs "snubbing" Lili's party, but really most people know what's up. The DM got paid by H&M's PR to run the story with the Harkle spin, then they generate a ton of clicks with people wanting to comment that the Cambs didn't snub them, that they were working. (Which was almost every comment.) So the DM is just doing what they do best-stories for cash. And I think most people get that and no one buys the story about the snub.
The Camb's were on the other side of the country for an already schedule trip and they were supposed to blow it off for a birthday party. People are saying that Louis should have attended as representation basically. So a four year old is supposed to attend a birthday party of someone he has never met, with people he doesn't remember, with a nanny that was bullied by the mom of the birthday girl, along with the mom of the birthday girl attacking HIS mom on national tv...
Did we ever hear about all the birthday parties H&M attended for the Camb kids?
Everyone who is in the know is aware that the Cambs were booked for the weekend. The story barely touches on that but gives the impression that representing TQ is not as important as Lili's 1st birthday.
Same Queen who refused a solo photo and we have yet to get confirmation she ever met Lili.
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