#carpe jugulum

[brontesauruses]

"People as things, that's where it starts."

Carpe Jugulum (Discworld #23) - Terry Pratchett

Going Postal (Discworld #32) - Terry Pratchett

#i finished Going Postal last week #and i've been thinking about this A Lot #carpe jugulum #going postal #discworld #terry pratchett #words words words

[ross-hollander]

Something about Pratchett villains.

There's a lot of Pratchett villains who share one common thread: they're unromantic. They rip the charm and soul out of things.

Reach's service sends messages 'as warm and human as a thrown knife'. He himself 'kills people by numbers'.

Teatime is literally trying to kill Santa.

The Magpyrs turn the Gothic-vampire-novel style of the Old Count into industrial blood-harvesting.

Similarly, Wolfgang exchanges the traditional Game for just straight up killing people, and seeks to implement a werefascist regime to boot.

The Auditors are, by definition, made of unromantic. They are objectively unromantic.

And I think the idea of ripping apart the whimsy of things ties back to the idea of believing the little lies to believe the big ones. If you can't see charm and warmth, the dreams and imagination, you'll fall into what STP says is the biggest sin of all: treating people like objects.

#going postal #hogfather #carpe jugulum #the fifth elephant #reaper man #gnu terry pratchett #discworld

[krowbby]

Vlad looked imploringly at Agnes, and reached out to her.

'You wouldn't let them kill me, would you? You wouldn't let them do this to me? We could have... we might... you wouldn't, would you?'

The crowd hesitated. This sounded like an important plea. A hundred pairs of eyes stared at Agnes.

She took his hand. I suppose we could work on him, said Perdita. But Agnes thought about Escrow, and the queues, and the children playing while they waited, and how evil might come animal sharp in the night, or greyly by day on a list...

'Vlad,' she said gently, looking deep into his eyes, 'I'd even hold their coats.'

granny weatherwax was such a buzzkill for not letting her tear him apart <\3

#discworld #terry pratchett #carpe jugulum #agnes nitt #begging screaming pleading on my knees guys read agnes’ books #maskerade and carpe jugulum are soooooo important to me #agnes is so real for the vampire bf plot line in this book #she’s like obviously i can’t be with him he’s like literally evil. buuuuuuuuuut #hearth art

[fourdiagnosesinatrenchcoat]

She would hate this phrasing but my faith in the Church of Granny Weatherwax is being revived by this latest reread of the witches books. Her exchanges with Mightily Oats are so vital.

#granny weatherwax #discworld #sin #don't treat people as things #it's harder than it sounds in practice #carpe jugulum

[puttingthebiinmorbid]

Rip Nanny Ogg you would have loved the song Rasputin

#she would have made it so much more vulgar #nanny ogg #discworld #granny weatherwax #sir terry pratchett #wyrd sisters #witches abroad #lords and ladies #maskerade #carpe jugulum #wee free men #guards! guards!

[mywingsareonwheels]

“And sin, young man, is when you treat people like things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.”

“It’s a lot more complicated than that –”

“No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”

“Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes –”

“But they starts with thinking about people as things…”

(Granny Weatherwax, to Pastor Mightily Oats, Carpe Jugulum, Terry Pratchett.)

#gnu terry pratchett #granny weatherwax #esme weatherwax #mightily oats #carpe jugulum #pastor oats #sin's a difficult word for a lot of us but whatever the noun: yeah i think granny's absolutely right #people as things is where the rot kicks in for pretty much everything awful #and of course granny herself struggles a lot not to see other people as things so she knows how hard being decent can be #but she does it #all the time

[pratchettquotes]

"Er...you don't like me very much, do you," said Oats.

"I've hardly met you." [...]

"A lot of people don't like me as soon as they've met me," said Oats.

"I suppose that saves time," said Agnes, and cursed. Perdita had got through on that one, but Oats didn't seem to have noticed.

Terry Pratchett, Carpe Jugulum

#agnes nitt #perdita #mightily oats #carpe jugulum #discworld #terry pratchett #first impressions #strangers #people person #internal monologue #split personality #saves time #a lot of people do

[asparklethatisblue]

I love how much Nanny Ogg bullies Agnes about being a boring virgin, while also being glad she’s The Maiden to round up the little group.

#nanny ogg #gytha ogg #granny weatherwax #esme weatherwax #agnes nitt #carpe jugulum #discworld #my art

[therodentqueen]

CASSANUNDA THE DWARF

NOT Cassanova

Cassanunda

Not Cassan-OVER

But Cassan-UNDER

Cuz he's a DWARF

#DAMMIT PTERRY #gnu terry pratchett #discworld #carpe jugulum #a pune or play on words #i had to stop reading the damn book and post this. Dammit pterry!

[wykart]

Perdita: I could fix him

Agnes: no the fuck you couldn’t

#oh Terry your morals always reach into my guts and twist <3 #discworld #carpe jugulum #agnes nitt

[sithbelle]

You know, one of my least favorite plot tropes is a narrative driven by a misunderstanding. And for the first several pages of Carpe Jugulum, I thought that's what I was dealing with.

Instead, we got a battle of wits involving the most clever witch at her lowest and a...ahem..."vampyre" family trying to be sensible and not superstitious. It's also neat to see Agnes and Perdita develop into their own distinct personalities. And Nanny Ogg is, well, Nanny Ogg (aka just the best). The Scottish pixies were also a delightful treat, as was the witchy return of Magrat.

I can't say this book was my favorite in the witches arc, but I still really enjoyed it.

Next up, we're dealing with The Fifth Elephant!

#gnu terry pratchett #terry pratchett #discworld #carpe jugulum

[caoticdragonv19]

One of my favorite Discworld Quotes I had forgotten existed.

There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment about the nature of sin, for example,” said Oats. “And what do they think? Against it, are they?” said Granny Weatherwax.

“It’s not as simple as that. It’s not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray.”

“Nope.”

“Pardon?”

“There’s no grays, only white that’s got grubby. I’m surprised you don’t know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That’s what sin is.

“It’s a lot more complicated than that . . .”

“No. It ain’t. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts.”

“Oh, I’m sure there are worse crimes . . .”

“But they starts with thinking about people as things . . . ”

Carpe Jugulum

#quoteoftheday #book qoute #discworld #carpe jugulum #granny weatherwax

[aeshnacyanea2000]

He glanced at Granny. She’d changed as soon as the others had entered. Before, she’d been bowed and tired. Now she was standing tall and haughty, supported by a scaffolding of pride.

-- Terry Pratchett - Carpe Jugulum

#Terry Pratchett #discworld quotes #GNU Terry Pratchett #quotes #Carpe Jugulum #Granny Weatherwax #Esmerelda Weatherwax #Mightily-Praiseworthy-Are-Ye-Who-Exalteth-Om Oats #Mightily Oats #pride

[p4nishers]

thinking about the relationship between mightily oats' "the worthwhile [words] don't burn" and constable dorfl's "the words in the heart cannot be taken"

#especially the journey both of them had to go through to get to the point of saying that. like the whole of carpe jugulum oats was so TORN #and before that too about what words could you believe and who could you really trust on their word about om and the prophets and he went #out of his way to look up records disproving what the book of om said bc he KNEW nothing they said could be believed and just all the pain #and all that doubt he went thru and the part where he questioned om's 'infinite compassion' as he prayed bc really what compassion? #how many people prayed at the stake just like he was doing in that moment? how many people had to live with the silence of their god just #like he did? but still when his book of om – that he clung to the whole book for reassurance – burned he said the worthily words don't burn #the worthily words are in the heart and in the mind and not feed into his mouth by old man who just #made things up to justify their actions. he had all the words he needded the whole time and holiness was always all around him. he just had #to look #and dorfl being created with words in his head that dictated his every move . words that chained him. then he and the other golems created #'king' for themselves in the hope he'd lead them to freedom but they put too many words in his head and he failed and carrot gave dorfl his #own freedom and his own words and that lead to dorfl destroying his well child basically and destroying himself in the process but the word #in his heart his OWN words remained and they were able to rebuilt him and vimes give him a voice and his words and belief remained in him b #they were always his #god. sorry for the ramble im severally unwell about them #mightily oats #constable dorfl #carpe jugulum #feet of clay #gnu terry pratchett #discworld

[dearlittlebuttercup]

Props to Sir Terry for finding a legitimate way of using the word "cluster-suck" in a book.

#discworld #gnu terry pratchett #terry pratchett #carpe jugulum #granny weatherwax #pratchett #nanny ogg #gnu pterry #pterry

[puttingthebiinmorbid]

I think if all those Edgar Allan Poe characters who got buried alive had just hung a sign around their neck that said “I ATEN’T DEAD” all their problems would have been solved smh

#discworld #terry pratchett #equal rites #granny weatherwax #nanny ogg #magrat garlick #edgar allan poe #the premature burial #the fall of the house of usher #wyrd sisters #witches abroad #lords and ladies #maskerade #carpe jugulum