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enigma-the-mysterious · 3 months
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"INDIA IS NOT CASTEIST ANYMORE BECAUSE OUR PRIME MINISTER AND PRESIDENT ARE NOT UPPER CASTE!"
So sick of constantly seeing this take. The USA had a black president for 8 years. Did that make racism magically vanish from the country? Just shut the fuck up
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o-re-piya · 5 months
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every day i scroll through the casteism tag on tumblr and it makes me want to cry because like. how can you hate us so much? after killing us, after raping us, after everything, how can you possibly hate us this much? simply because we try to climb up the social ladder. we dream of being your equals? that is our crime?
my great grandmother had to raise four kids on her own in the 50s, because her husband died in a raid. why was he part of the raid? because there was a literal law preventing him from getting a job, getting an education because apparently my people are 'criminal by nature'. but he had to feed his children. so he became what they perceived him as. he turned to crime. the people in my village were lined up and inspected on a daily basis. i can't even begin to imagine what that must have been like.
i grew up on stories of persecution. persecution of my people.you put them through that yet you hate us? simply for wanting social dignity?
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Ballister's otherness and the rigidity of the Kingdom's society is an allegory on the caste system in India, in this essay I will-
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srkgirlblogger · 1 year
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by @/vimoh on ig
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timetravellingkitty · 3 months
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Indian Gen Z is progressive when it comes to gay people but will not hesitate to shit on reservations. All that talk about being more progressive than the previous generation and they just turn a blind eye to casteism
upper castes don't even fuck around on this post I'm just gonna block you
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Thank you @reaux07 and her friends at BFP for educating me on casteism. Because of your resources, I'm understanding what this guy is talking about (a little)
-fae
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bfpnola · 7 months
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about the ongoing hunger strike to ensure that the historic anti-casteism bill passes in california ^^ wanna support?
if you’re on mobile, go to: https://tinyurl.com/Signsb403
other devices, like laptops: https://www.gov.ca.gov/contact/
sample email below from the mobile link, not my own writing:
Subject: Please Sign SB403 (Wahab) to End Caste Discrimination
I am writing to request the governor to sign the historic bill SB403 introduced by State Senator Aisha Wahab, which would end discrimination on the basis of caste. This bill aims to clarify existing California state law and make explicit that discrimination based on caste is illegal by adding caste to ancestry and defining caste in the Civil Rights Act, Fair Employment and Housing Act, and Education Code.
Caste systems are social stratification where each position is characterized by hereditary status, endogamy, and social exclusion. Caste discrimination manifests as workplace discrimination, housing discrimination, gender-based violence, and other physical and psychological forms of violence.
Caste discrimination occurs across industries, including technology, construction, restaurants, and domestic work. In these sectors, caste discrimination has included harassment, bias, wage theft, and even trafficking. Caste is today inextricably intertwined with existing legal protections in state and federal civil rights laws such that discrimination based on one’s caste is effectively discrimination based on the intersection of other protected identities. However, because of the grave discrimination caste-oppressed Californians face, these existing protections must be made explicit.
Caste is a workers rights issues, a women's rights issues, and racial justice issue. It is also a bill that has bipartisan support. That is why we are joined by Asian Law Caucus, Stop AAPI Hate, AAPI Equity Alliance, Tech Equity, Equality Labs, Alphabet Workers Union, Ambedkar Association of North America, Asian Pacific American Labor Alliance, AFL-CIO, Californians for Caste Equity, Hindus for Caste Equity, Jakara Movement, South Asian Network, Sikh Coalition, and Sikh American Legal Defense Fund. Every major legal association is in support of caste equity and the lawfulness to make caste equity explicit. This includes the American Bar Association, South Asian Bar Association, National Asian American Pacific Bar Association, and Asian Law Caucus.
That is why we urge you to make history and sign his bill without hesitation. Justice delayed is justice denied. Let's ensure California opportunity for all by ensuring that ancestry and caste discrimination is explicitly prohibited and make history across the country.
Thank You,
[Name]
and if you don’t know what caste is? send in an ask @bfpnola or join our Discord server, link in bio, so we can answer you in real-time!
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দীনদান (Dino Daan)
There is no god in that temple”, said the Saint.
The King was enraged;
“No God? Oh Saint, aren’t you speaking like an atheist?
On the throne studded with priceless gems, beams the golden idol,
And yet, you proclaim that’s empty?”
“It’s not empty; It’s rather full of the Royal pride.
You have bestowed yourself, oh King, not the God of this world”,
Remarked the saint.
The King frowned, “2 million golden coins
Were showered on that grand structure that kisses the sky,
I offered it to the Gods after performing all the necessary rituals,
And you dare claim that in such a grand temple,
There is no presence of God”?
The Saint calmly replied, “in the very year in which, twenty million of your subjects were struck by a terrible drought;
The pauperized masses without any food or shelter,
came begging at your door crying for help, only to be turned away,
they were forced to take refuge in forests, caves, camping under roadside foliages, derelict old temples;
and in that very year
when you spent 2 million gold to build that grand temple of your’s,
that was the day when God pronounced:
“My eternal home is lit by everlasting lamps,
In the midst of an azure sky,
In my home the foundations are built with the values:
Of Truth, Peace, Compassion and Love.
The poverty stricken puny miser,
Who could not provide shelter to his own homeless subjects,
Does he really fancy of giving me a home?”
That is the day God left that Temple of yours.
And joined the poor beside the roads, under the trees.
Like emptiness of the froth in the vast seas,
Your mundane temple is as hollow.
It’s just a bubble of wealth and pride.’
The enraged King howled,
“oh you sham cretin of a person,
Leave my kingdom this instant’.
The Saint replied calmly,
“The very place where you have exiled the Divine,
Kindly banish the devout too".
--Rabindranath Tagore
[Translated from the original Bengali into English by Sandipto Das Gupta]
This poem by Rabindranath Tagore written in 1307( as per Bengali calendar ,I can't pinpoint the exact date in English calender but it is almost 123 years old) resonates greatly with the current event happening in India. I won't deliante on the exact events because everyone is aware of it and how the government of a secular state is politicising a certain religion to fulfil their agendas. How they are creating division among people by spreading misinformation and hate. You will found enough discussion about that in many beautiful blogs in this platform.( Do check them out) .
I just want to shed light on the desi side of Tumblr and how it has transformed from a safe haven for Indian people to a breeding ground of so called "Kattar Hindus "
I never really talk about politics or about my own experiences with religion in Tumblr . Maybe because I am scared of my mutuals attacking me ,telling me how I am brainwashed by " Leftist Atheist Ideology" and how I am too westernised to understand the intricacies of our great " SANTAN DHARMA" . I have been part of the Tumblr community for almost three to four years .I remember following the #desiblr and #hindublr tag mostly because I was interested on discussing and sharing experiences with like minded people. Being part of a family which believes on letting one choose their religious beliefs, my idea of religion was a mixture of a lot of things . But one thing was common among all of these , no religion is greater than other and all religions have the same end goal, that is to understand the true meaning of life. So Imagine my shock when I realise that the so called aware people of Tumblr and the #desiblr ( which apprently contained well educated ,genuine and open minded people) are actually hypocrites. Their idea of religion is very much confined within the sphere of Krishna Bhakti and glorification of Hinduism in name of love for god. Their religious understanding don't have place for religious minorities and people with different opinions . They only support and propagate a certain kind of Hinduism, continuously glorifying everything in name of love and respect for their " Santan Dharma" . In the span of these few years I have seen people completely ignoring the stories of people who faced casteism by telling them that they are " brain washed" and justifying casteism in the context of Ancient India ( apprently caste system doesn't discriminate amongst people , because that religious privileged upper caste person didn't experienced it first hand and therefore casteism is a myth )
They are first to criticize Muslim Invaders but love to turn a blind eye on the fascist qualities of their own religion ( one of them even went out of their way to justify The practice of SATI for god's sake and not only that they even ended up glorifying jauhar and polygamy) . They live in their own make believe world of Krishna Prem , Mahabharat fanfiction and desi girl aesthetic . It's ok to love your religion but to be blinded by that love and constantly undermine the experiences and ideologies of other is never right. They claim to hate the fascist qualities of Islam but now have ended up doing the same thing. They will bash you if you dare to tell them that you don't view Mahabharat as a part of Indian History or that you don't like following the superstitious beliefs that are prevalent in name of Hinduism. #hindublr and #desiblr were supposed to be place where Indian people could express and share their own experiences with their religion and ethnicity ,but now it has became the breeding ground of religious extremists who proudly propagate religious hate and constantly try to find absurd loopholes to justify their hatered.
Having said that I would like to point out that not everyone is like that ...I have met so many religious people who had openly accepted different ideologies without belittling their experiences.
I am not a great writer unlike @papenathys and many other people in this platform who constantly tries and does their best to point out the hypocrisies of the people in this platform and show them a mirror to a realities of their religion, but I just want to vent out ...I am sorry if my writing is haphazard and not good enough .I know a lot of people (including my mutuals) will not like this, but I am tired of pretending that everything is perfect in this country, I am tired of pretending that 22nd January was a simple religious occasion not a huge political step just for the sake of election , I am tired of the seeing this constant war to prove one religion is greater than another . I am tired of constantly seeing privileged people mocking and belittling the struggles my community faced in the name of caste. I am tired of trying to pretend that Hinduism and Hindu people fit in the mythical reality Tumblr like to portray , I am tired of waking up in a land where people are so blinded by their love for a figure that may or may not exist that they have forgotten basic humanity. You may try to pretend that the " Sanatanis " are not propagating hatered, casteism, fascism by giving an example from your own privileged life but the reality is much darker.
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hussyknee · 4 months
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I accidentally deleted this ask yesterday but fortunately had a screenshot. Ngl I'm kind of ??? about it because...why would you single out Hinduism to pick the most fundamentalist, cultural and political aspect of it, that's not even practised in most the Hindu minorities outside of India? Nearly every community in India has a caste system regardless of religion. Within Hinduism there's no just one caste system either. Eelam Tamil Hindus have a caste system, but it's not as violent as India's (although of course still violent and oppressive). Sinhalese have a caste system too, and the ones still invested in it would swear blind this was related to Buddhism somehow, a doctrine that preaches against inequality of any kind. Caste systems are literally haram in Islam and yet some Muslim communities managed to rationalize creating one because they wanted to assimilate into the worst of us I guess.
I know fuck all about Hinduism to tell you the truth, but my sister is a convert and devotee of Durga Matha. I asked her about it and she sent me this:
There are as many variants of Hinduism as there are varieties of grass. The only thing they have in common is the Vedas which is a bunch of hymns and stuff. It doesn't really go into detail about caste.
The caste system comes from a book called Manu Smriti. Some accept it as a Hindu text, some don't. Hinduism isn't even a religion actually. It's a bunch of similar belief systems that the Britishers lumped in together for ease of classification. Within Hinduism there are many sects- Saivism, Shaktism, Vaishnavism, etc. So to define Hinduism as some sort of oppressive religion doesn't make sense because it isn't a religion as Westerners define it. Anyway, truth is everyone cherry picks the parts of religion that suits them and discards the rest. Some think that's being dishonest. I think that's just common sense.
This makes sense to me. It's very colonial to monolithize belief systems that evolved from the disparate religious texts and syncretic practices of dozens of kingdoms and dynasties over 4000 years, just because it shares the unique character of belonging to the Indian subcontinent. (Which is precisely why its propagated by Hindutva nutcases. They're imperialist colonizers permanently snorting Indian manifest destiny crack.)
Bestie. Friendo. My guy (gender neutral). Ideology doesn't shape society. People wrap ideology around what they already want to believe and do. This is how you get Zionists (both Christian and Jewish), Wahabi/Salafi Muslims, Hindutvas and... whatever we're supposed to call this current iteration of Theravadin Buddhism that is also characterized by ethnosupremacy and genocide. Religion takes the character of the individuals and ideologues that choose to follow it. There are no exceptions.
To reiterate the point that inspired this ask: Some LGBT folks's queerness is inextricable from their religious identity. Stigmatising and ostracizing religion in queer spaces is alienating, racist and violent. Just like no one should force religion on you, no one should force secularism on people either. There is enough air for us all to breathe free.
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enigma-the-mysterious · 5 months
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Genuine question for the upper caste people in desiblr. Why do you think "caste is in the past"? Everytime I have seen someone confidently proclaiming that caste is a problem of a bygone era it is always a UC. You guys don't live our reality. You guys don't know the first thing about what it is like from our side. So why do you feel comfortable speaking for us? Would you like it if a British person were to proclaim that colonialism wasn't actually so bad? No? Then why is it different for us?
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snixx · 5 months
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the thing that gets me about anti-reservation arguments is the sheer blindness and tunnel vision you need to believe that reservation is a problem that negatively affects (or, god forbid, oppresses) the majority of indians. yes a lot of how our reservation system is implemented is ineffective and fucked up and serves only to uplift the most privileged of reserved groups, but the problem there isn't in reservation. it's in economic inequality, a whole other issue, the same reason most people who get jobs and employment in the general category are also economically well-off. intersectionality is a thing, and the reservations we do have would be most effective if they were intersectional instead of purely based on a single parametric (say a venn diagram instead of mutually exclusive caste and economic-based reservations), but that's a whole other conversation. the so-called "general" category makes up 15% of india's population, and upper-caste hindus make up about 10%. you are not the fucking majority. it's the same argument as guys complaining girls are favoured in placements. the fact that your demographic still makes up the majority of people admitted into colleges or jobs or whatever should make you do some thinking. why do you think that is? do you think upper-caste hindu men are just fundamentally better? that in a meritocracy, this tiny minority would overpower everyone else because of some God given superiority??? now because i still have some faith in humanity I'm going to assume you don't actually believe that and are just living in some deluded bubble of ignorant bliss where you're oppressed for your privilege. the reason you're able to perform better in a so-called pure meritocracy is because of privileges you've been afforded in other areas. if most of your friends also complain about this shit constantly it's probably because the friends you make are influenced by your social station and that colours your view of what the majority looks like. this isn't normal. the flaws in the system aren't because of reservation. yes, the reservation system is in desperate need of some massive changes (especially when it comes to intersectionality and eliminating generational reservation) but the solution isn't to reduce reservation. you are not "oppressed because you're a forward-caste male". calm down and get your head out of your ass.
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srkgirlblogger · 2 years
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Hi, can you tell me what exactly is wrong with RRR? /gen
here is an article written by a writer from the Gond community about the dehumanising portrayal of their community by Rajamouli
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It's behind a paywall so i can't read most of it, but what I've gathered from my own viewing of RRR is that the story is basically historical rpf about two real-life revolutionaries who never actually met. One of them was upper caste (don't remember if he was Brahmin or Kshatriya) and the other was Gond. The film is made by an almost entirely upper caste team and the writer and director + both lead actors belong to dominant castes. Rajamouli especially is known for his ultra-hindu epics like the Baahubali movies and Magadheera (all wonderful films) and he is obsessed with coding every single character in this film as a mythological character from the various hindu epics. So Alluri Sitarama becomes the Ram from Ramayana and Komaram Bheem becomes the Bheem from Mahabharat.
This feeds into the forced-hinduisation of indigenous Indian communities. The Gond people are portrayed as stereotypical tribal caricatures. They are shown to be "innocents" who only care about their own community and do not have any real interaction with the rest of the world. Even the way the actor talks about his role is, honestly, very infantilizing (along with the director ofc). Komaram Bheem was a literate man and in the movie, he is shown to instead be an illiterate simpleton who needs an upper caste saviour to "teach" and "educate" him. Even the famous slogan he coined, "jal, jungle, zameen" (the water, the jungles, and the land) is attributed to Alluri Sitarama Raju. Komaram Bheem was also most likely named after a Gond deity and not the Hindu Bheem, so to picturise him exclusively as a Hindu deity is extremely harmful.
The movie also has a problem with whitewashing Non-Hindu and non-UC involvement in the freedom struggle. The most apparent way they do this is through the portrayal of Bheem and the other way is by making it seem like only Hindus (or people they appropriate in that category i.e. Sikh, Gond) were fighting for independence. The end credits song is a hilarious piece of propaganda where they glorify Indian political leaders and leave out all Christian, Muslim, Buddhist etc figures. They even feature, like, Shivaji? Who wasn't even alive when the Independence struggle took place??
But yeah, RRR is a masterfully made but deeply flawed piece of work. I hate how it's being universally praised while almost no one is talking about its really horrible politics.
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jaane-bhi-do-yaaro · 2 months
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This is the sectional cut off (aka the minimum required score in each section of the exam to pass) for the IPMAT Indore 2023....the difference between General category and the rest is insane. Not to mention the reservation.
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Yes, casteism exists in India. But it's probably not how the rest of the world is made to believe.
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The IPMAT is just an example. This happens EVERYWHERE and I AM SO TIRED OF THIS.
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sudamaniparva · 10 months
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not to get all 'anti-theist' on my blog, but the way some fuckers on this site really act as if there's some perfect religion and all other ones are the absolute worst is absolutely delusional and downright stupid.
There is no fucking perfect religion.
Every religion has atrocities attached to its followers and texts. Racism, sexism, homophobia, casteism, classism, antisemitism, islamophobia and every other bigotry that you can think of will apply to at least one religion. No religion is clean. Stop fucking pretend as if there's some cheat code in a religion that makes it better than everything else.
(fair warning, if i see anyone use this post to be hateful towards any religion, especially islam and judaism because i know that you fuckers will try, i will report you. this post is not to diss any religion, but merely to criticize people who believe that one religion is the best and every other religion is horrible. if you see anyone use this post to harm anyone, report them)
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