#centaurworld season 2

[confused-kinnie]

Greif

Mfw you are so hopelessly obsessed with your lover you sacrifice yourself and become an eldritch horror, only to realize the relationship was toxic.

#my art #mod betti #mod bm #adventure time #fiona and cake #golbetty #betty grof #centaurworld #centaurworld season 2 #nowhere king #NOT SHIP ART

[veeferns]

just watched centaurworld and you cannot tell me there wasn't conflict in the writer's room about horse x rider

(screenshots below including the finale so spoilers)

so in S2E4 Horse says this refering to Becky Apples

and then later that very same episode she says this to wamawink comparing the situation between her and jeffica to horse and becky apple's situation

what are these mixed messages I'm being given

then in the series finale the nowhere king compares himself to horse

in regards to the situation between them and their "humans"

the situation between the nowhere king and his "human" being very much romantic

and then there's how sensual they made all of these scenes

and there's many times where it looks like they almost kiss

and the whole U-Haul lesbian thing in regards to this

but then there's all this

so in conclusion I think there was conflict in the writer's room about this so there's multiple things pointing both ways and to be clear I don't condone this ship I just wanted to publish my thoughts on what happened to make this how it is, and if you're trying to think of a reason why this could have happened in canon then perhaps the centaurworld's anthropomorphism of Horse it turned horse's bond to rider into a romantic one because the bond between a horse and their rider isn't really something that exists between two anthropomorphic beings

#centaurworld #centaurworld spoilers #centaurworld season 2 #centaurworld horse #centaurworld rider #centaurworld horse x rider #centaurworld finale #🪴 posts

[tumbleringismycopingmechanism]

Got this song stuck in my head:

Once shattered, now whole

Once whole, now united

Once united, now eternal

I swear, I will never stop thinking about you

You have come to set me free

Love is a spark

And if you should hurt me I'll always forgive you

Love's an evergrowing blaze

You are a part of me

I will never part from you

Once shattered, now whole

She was meant to be mine

Once whole, now united

Once united, now eternal

And my love for her runs eternal

And with this ring I pledge

Never to leave your side

Even through hardship and darkness and pain

From you I won't hide

Once shattered, now whole

Once whole, now united

Once united, now eternal

-Woman, General, both of them and Noone from Centaurworld

And while it is a beautiful song and a beautiful scene, I wrote down the lyrics specifically to appreciate how amazingly they foreshadow that what the Elktaur felt (at least by this point) wasn't love, just a crazy obsession with Woman. Also the song, by describing how he feels about her, also showcases how he doesn't feel about himself, even when he should.

"I swear, I will never stop thinking about you": already starting kinda obsessive, but okay, if you're feshly in love or do something big like a wedding, I can see how you might proclaim something like that. The fact that he follows through with it even while they haven't seen each other in ages is kinda creepy, but still something that might be viewed as romantic. But if you ask me, he should maybe have spent less time thinking about her and more time trying to think like her. She loved centaurworld, she loved the rift connection between both worlds and wanted it to be open, she was given to kindness for all things. And by splitting and keeping himself in halves and thus creating the Nowhere King he ruined all of that for her.

"And if you should hurt me I'll always forgive you": again, weird sentiment that might be okay on such an emotional day, but if you think about it, actually not a good sign. Like, General, my guy, if your partner hurts you (repeatedly), they should not just get absolution for that from the start. That's not healthy. Also, where's even a fraction of that forgiveness towards yourself?

"You are a part of me": you know who is even more a part of you, General? Hm? Do you?

"I will never part from you": well, I suppose at least they're matched in their unhealthy relationship ideals?

"She was meant to be mine": she belongs to noone but herself, Noone. And if you truely loved her you would a) be happy she found someone and b) not stalk around on her wedding uninvited.

"Even through hardship and darkness and pain, From you I won't hide": for one - General, you lying fucking ass. You literally tore yourself in half just to hide you centaur half from Woman. And once again, where's that sentiment for yourself? So you can stick with this random human through hardship, darkness and pain, but not with yourself? I think you might have the wrong priorities here, my guy.

So yeah, in conclusion Elktaur should probably have been comfortable saying all of this to himself before going around throwing it at someone else.

#centaurworld #centaurworld season 2 #centaurworld spoilers #the General #Woman #the nowhere king #(before he was #that's why I call him Noone here #seeing as that's how he introduces himself to Horse) #once shattered now whole #not that I don't feel the Elktaur like 300%

[lovelythenabeana]

"What's centaurworld? " pt 1.

Butts

Random singing dancing

Them being like.. this

Ched.

This thing 😶

War killing little lizard baby in jamies🫢

Singing trees

Regal to squish

#centaurworld #centaurworld ched #centaurworld horse #centaurworld season 2

[sciartherp]

Why does nobody talk about how even if the Elktaur confessed his love to the Princess, he wouldn’t’ve been able to love and accept his cebtaurhood. It’s likely he would’ve tried to split himself even if he knew he was accepted by the Princess because his dysphoria weren’t caused by falling in love with her, only amplified. He was destined to fall down this path no matter what.

This smelly bastard is a walking trans allegory and I will die on this hill.

It’s 1am I’ll make a full analysis sometime I just needed to get this out there

#centaurworld #nowhere king #elktaur #mysterious woman #centaurworld season 2 #character analysis

[skebbles]

The herd fights and it upsets Durpleton. Glendale might be better at comforting others than she is at comforting herself.

#doodles #art #fanart #centaurworld #centaurworld season 2

[somelazyassartist]

Still trying to get the hang of drawing him but he's soooooooo babygirl to me

#please please for the love of god please ignore the fucked up horns I'm working with pen i can't erase please ignore it please #three eyed cats in my living room #centaurworld #centaurworld spoilers #the nowhere king #elktaur #centaurworld s2 #centaurworld season 2

[squirrilous]

#centaurworld #mysterious woman #elktaur #the last lullaby #centaurworld season 2 #a gary cake! #Instagram

[rinzydings]

More healthy mysteryelk au ahoy! (forgot I was working on this for a sec, I have like 3 more buzzing around) I h/c that he really loves playing with and braiding her hair c: She enjoys it just as much as he does, so they slipped away to his world to spend some time together.

This was intended to just be flats but uh I got carried away for a sec. Oops.

- Do not repost/crop/edit -  

#centaurworld #centaurworld season 2 #centaurworld spoilers #elktaur #mysterious woman #mysteryelk #centaurworld elktaur #centaurworld mysterious woman #cheedraws

[franki-lew-yo]

The General is also Elktaur.

He is Elktaur as much as Nowhere King is. Elktaur is a bad person who’s flaws are equally divided between his two parts.

Here. I wrote a thing out months ago and have been editing it bit by bit over the course of these months to distract myself from my SSI sitch and now to get me thru our national health crisis (in my country). Read it before I eat your cat.

((content warning: horror gifs and, ab*sive relationships and self harm talk))

Part of the reason I love this story +character is because it’s such a new take on the "corrupted-now''/''meevil"-villain trope AND the "love was my motivator"-villain backstory! Usually the idea behind these kinds of tragic villains is there's a 'good side and a 'bad side' and the bad side overcomes but because their love for this ONE person is their only redeeming feature that then 'redeems' them at the last moment before death. Elktaur, and by extension his two halves, is not this.

According to Megan Dong's interview with Vortexcentral, the reason the General 'turned' on the elk is because the General’s what happens when power and privilege corrupt a person’s influence, i.e. the General got everything he wanted when he was Elktaur and is terrified of losing it or “going back”, now that he feels he is his 'best self'. - he is Arial+Aladdin but if they took a VERY dark turn - The General is the side of the Elktaur that hated being a centaur; not hated centaurs, but hated himself and valued human life more; he’s the side that outwardly dreams of glory and being a hero, and tbf, probably thinks he does care about people. The way he says “sorry kid” after stabbing Rider and tries to appeal to Mystery Woman doesn’t sound like some halfhearted, backhanded Rick Sanchez-style neg to me. They sound like the words of someone who earnestly believes they have no choice other than to do what they did. They sound like someone who believes their own lies. From everything that's shown in the show, the ''poison you [General] fed me [Woman]'' that Mysterious Woman's talking about were NOT words of gaslighting or emotional abuse, but they were still lies; they were hollow words. It doesn’t matter how many times he says he’s sowwy and how much he thinks he cares for her and the people under his command: he does not. He doesn't actually care cuz he's not willing to take the sacrifice that would actually save his people or admit even wrongdoing. Horse even outright calls him out as such, to his wife -

"He doesn’t love you. THAT is not what love looks like!"- Horse

As the General, Elktaur entrapped Mysterious Woman in a marriage and lived life as someone he wasn't. This isn’t a Rose Quartz trying to tell Greg abt her past as an abusive monarch and him telling her it doesn’t matter now; the General was ALL about living with Mysterious Woman as the human he was determined to be. He didn’t trust her. He didn’t really respect her or any of the humans who’d he’d come to rule. He wanted her love as he wanted every other vague concept of respect and was determined to keep it, but in the fullest sense, he did not truly love her back. Nowhere King is the half that earnestly loves Mysterious Woman and I think a lot of fans already know/feel that. The problem is they (and me in the past hey I'm not perfect but I'm trying to fix this) treat it like General’s inability to love is the ONLY problem and that Nowhere King’s love is ''pure'' because it’s 'honest'.

Nowhere King (and Elktaur)'s love is Not pure just because he at one point, values her. Nowhere King is possessive. “She was meant to be mine”. He’s a self-AWARE possessive bastard who wants to end the pain and I think wants her to be happy and free of him, BUT-- never forget it's the NWK’s side who outright negs Mysterious Woman for HIS failure as Elktaur:

“ You made me what I am, but it’s okay. I forgive you.” - Nowhere King, decoded meaning thru links

Much in the same way General doesn't think he's hurting others but is, I don't think NWK wants to hurt her by saying that but at this point in time he's a monster who can ONLY commit suffering, so he does, even to the one person he doesn't want to hurt. That's all he is now.

There's also the bit where -you know- when NWK can’t have her, when she tells him to get over her because his obsession with her got him into this mess; HE DOESN'T and opts to torturing humans by turning them into minotaurs and then trying to destroy EVERYTHING that isn’t her. Love not only doesn't always redeem someone it can make someone more dangerous. >> The General doesn’t care about MW to the point that when they’re separated he seems more annoyed and he tries to soften her pain by just telling her more of what she wants to hear; the Nowhere King is obsessed with her to the point of putting the weight of ending the war all on her shoulders because of his mistakes. -This, by the by, is why I structured my playlists in chronological order rather than out of sequence as Horse sees it in the show. When you see the whole story from point a to point b makes you see firsthand how Elktaur is lying to the woman he loves and slipping more bit by bit into becoming a complete monster-

The General is unselfaware, prideful, self loathing, determined to save the world while not actually CARING ABOUT ppl he hurts. He's a narcissist; The Nowhere King is self aware, cares for only ONE person, but makes her and everyone else miserable and wants to destroy everything if he can't have his way = He's a Bojack Horseman. These people are what the Elktaur, now separated, became. 

A bit I know some critics are gonna throw back at me is the part where MW says “you locked him up in the dungeon, did you think it’d have no effect?”, which, to some people, is confirmation that ALL the problems of the show happened because the General locked up and abused the Nowhere King- that if he hadn’t done that then the Nowhere King wouldn’t have become so possessive, cruel, and hateful. I object to that take. It’s not what the General did at that moment but what Nowhere King points out was the mistake Elktaur made earlier:

"We [Elktaur] made a mistake, WE [Elktaur] have to undo it!"- Nowhere King who is also Elktaur but only half of him-flonking christ- YOU GET IT

The moment when Elktaur decided to change himself at all was his first step toward evilll. He was not his worst parts yet, but he was acting upon his worst instincts the character sings about in ''Ghosts''/''Elktour Suite part 5'' - he let in his ghosts because he didn’t know any other way or any life without them; by the time the General was accustomed to living his new life as a human, he (General) probably saw the elk as the ghosts that were wearing him down while the elk, now alone, recognized that he was always better than those ghosts.

Elktaur wasn’t a bad person, or at least he was no better than Horse was shaping up to be in ep 2 and 8 of season 1 - ONCE. It's as understandable as it is selfish but what Elktaur wanted was respect: he appreciated human stuff and human culture even though he didn’t like humans themselves. He wanted understanding when humans wouldn't understand him and none of his own kind 'knew him' Jack Skellington-style. He was smitten by and then hooked on Mysterious PrincessWoman when she did the thing he always wanted and NOTICED him, and she knew her magic. Lord knows how much of a simp he'd be had he really gotten to know her - the tragedy in the actual story is he didn't. He let the ghosts in. He was too wrapped up in his own self loathing and inferiority complex that for this one moment, he made what would be the biggest mistake of his life. Not just his life, EVERYONE's lives. Anyway

this is why Elktaur 100% deserved to die and why his death was actually a HAPPY ENDING for the character.

We don't see the final look on his face when Mystery Woman stabs down but we do see him reach for the shadow of his antlers. He’s finally back together, his pain’s finally over, he wouldn’t hurt her anymore- he prolly still didn't want to die but he even says he has peace. Best of all, he got to hear what the General needed to hear and what the Nowhere King had longed to hear for so many years:

''Don't you know I would have loved you the way you were?'' - Mysterious Woman

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A lot of my sizzling hot Nowhere King (I refer the whole character; elktaur, elk/nwk, and the General as that cuz that's how I knew him for months before the finale +makes it easier) takes are rooted in my amateur horror junkieness

Already made this point but Nowhere King is a reversed-Seth Brundle: Brundlefly is horrifying because he's conflicted about, but still absolutely willing to do, what he almost does to Veronica- you can't completely blame the fly part of him any more than you can't completely blame Seth. Just as Brundlefly as a whole isn't blameless for what either side of him did, neither Elktaur's sides can't be the 'good' or 'bad' side and can't really be forgiven for either's actions - they are one in the same. NWK in particular reminds me of Frankenstein's monster from the book:

'' I have love in me the likes of which you can scarcely imagine and rage the likes of which you would not believe. If I cannot satisfy the one, I will indulge the other. I may be a Hogwarts Student, but I'm also a satanist '' - The Wretch, 4 real

Maybe another reason I'm protective of my General boi getting the diss is because General reminds me of Adelaide from Us. ((major Us spoilers incoming)). There's so many ways to view Us, but me personally I just can't see Adelaide as wholey evil +uncaring like Red (the REAL Adelaide) says she is. She had a very sympathetic motiv to switch herself out as a child, given what tethered are, but also given what tethered are, knew nothing BUT that reality and how to behave. By the time she was an adult she'd realized how to love others and talk she'd realized the gravity of what she'd done as a child, buried that reality until she believed she WAS the real Adelaide at heart, and in the end she would do anything to protect the family she had and had 'earned' but was still responsible for the Tetheredpocalypse and everyone who wasn't her fam dying.

Final thoughts/TL:DR --

-In "Once Shattered Now Whole" NWK's not just reliving the memory of him cucking himself, he's remembering witnessing in real time him LYING to the woman he loves and being unable to do anything about it.

Dying with regrets IS NOT the same as a 'last minute redemption arc'- ohmayhawd get off TvTropes whydon't you?

Nowhere King/Elktaur is a war criminal and an emotional abuser but I draw the line at the insistence he doesn't genuinely love Mystery Woman. He does; genuine love doesn't make you a good person or your actions hurt any less. Want a familial example of this with a better ending and an antagonist who isn't a villain? See Encanto.

I wonder how much less hate there'd be for General if he were also voiced by Brian Stokes Mitchell. Mitchell can do a younger voice and has range- I think the inference that General is a completely different person is swayed by him having a different VA.

Yes I watched all of Centaurworld again to proof read this and wholy moley is General so much more interesting when you realize he's Elktaur AND I love all the hints to his true nature. ((when he arrives back in the camp in S2 ep 6 it first appears as though a centaur is approaching: "I know my enemies better than I do my Allies": him playfully pretending to not be who he is when he first meets Rider feels very Elktaurish to me: I HAVE MORE...))

Elktaur is the ACTUAL king of the tumblr sexymans and NOT Onceler cuz he's multiple characters at once and actually well written. Lorax 2012 could maybe be saved if Lorax DeVito had killed Oncie with his own ax but you can't have everything,can you...

#centaurworld #centaurworld nowhere king #centaurworld general #centaurworld elktaur #centaurworld season 2 #nowhere king #the general #franki's features

[artybozu]

watched centaurworld season 2 a while back and draw this the same night. so heres this.

#questionable #nsft #centaurworld #centaurworld season 2 #centaurworld oc #butt

[kitty-king-artwork]

Y'know me 2 hours ago was rlly excited to make a fun little animatic while I rewatched all of season 2. It's now 2 and a half hours later and I finally finished all the editing. I'm so tired my hand hurts sm it's late and I had 2 cut out my favorite part of it bc I realized it made 0 sense </3

Any ways. Here's a sorta animatic remake of Bayden getting turned into a Minotaur scene, but it's for my feyworld au! I. Don't feel like talking all Abt it rn bc I'm So tired but basic gist Horse is human and gets sent 2 the fey realm and all the characters r various fey creatures. Bayden here is a Harpy if u wanna know! And the feyworld au is a little more serious + dark since fey aren't like. The nicest unfortunately

But I'm honestly fairly proud of this just. So tired now sheieb. Hope other ppl like it

#centaurworld #centaurworld season 2 #bayden #animation

[lionblaze03-2]

Hey guys. The fact that Ched makes an egg with a skeletal human means that any creature of any gender can make a baby in centaurworld. Cheer up, okay?

#Which means gender is even moreso just about self expression and not ‘the baby making one’ and ‘the guy one’ to anybody yknow. #It’s just like. Everyone gets it from the start. Gender is optional anyway! #Centaurworld #Centaurworld headcanons #centaurworld season 2 #centaurworld #centaurworld headcanons #centaurworld finale #the last lullaby #spoilers #ched #gary

[l-artz]

Drawing I did of my CentaurWorldOC Fauna, with Glendale. Why Glendale? Cuz she's a silly goober, and fauna can be silly too xD besties.

#Centaurworld #centaurworld season 2 #oc #animation #centaurworld #cute art #Sketch #Art #traditional art #Centaurworld oc

[sciartherp]

My hands are fucked but I cannot go two days without drawign something or my mental stability falls apart so here’s this I like testing out different styles :)

#my art #black mirror #the nowhere king #nowhere king #centarworld #centaurworld season 2

[tadpoledancer]

one thing that irked me about the centaurworld finale was when horse revealed the true identity of the nowhere king and rider pulled that "you're just a horse" bs. I remember watching that for the first time and I had to pause the show because it sounded so out of character for her. yeah, she just heard something absolutely batshit insane that goes against everything she knows, but belittling horse- her best friend and sister- doesn't feel right. I think it would have been far more devastating if, when horse told rider to trust her, she responded with "just this once, I can't" because I know that would have killed me

#centaurworld #centaurworld spoilers #centaurworld season 2