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#chain of iron theories
anthurak · 1 month
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Continuing my theorizing on Alastor’s powers not actually belonging to him, and rather actually being bound to whoever is holding his leash, I thought I’d discuss the visuals of Alastor’s powers. And in particular how they don’t seem to fit him.
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For one, just look at how Alastor’s powers usually manifest externally. As some kind of summoned minions, tentacles or other such conjurations. Like his powers aren’t truly some extension or manifestation of his will, but rather some detached force that is simply following his orders. And could stop following his orders if it wanted to…
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Then there are the times Alastor’s powers seem to manifest internally. Obviously this is all extremely twisted, creepy and wrong. And what if that’s the point? What if this is meant to convey that Alastor’s power isn’t so much twisted and unnatural in a general sense, but to Alastor specifically? That this is a power that isn’t his and isn’t meant to BE his, and thus is twisting and warping his body in all these unnatural ways.
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And there’s also the color of Alastor’s power (shoutout to @short-wooloo for pointing this out). Has anyone else noticed that it always seems to have a green color or tint? A color that otherwise doesn’t appear on Alastor. His powers literally don’t fit him. And if you’re still not convinced, just look at this shot when Charlie is making her deal with him:
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The strands that clearly seem to be stitching Alastor’s mouth shut are GREEN.
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Alastor’s powers may be great and terrible, but I think they’re also the CHAINS binding him to whoever is holding his leash.
Finally, considering how Alastor apparently ALWAYS had this power from the moment he first appeared in Hell, this may have some pretty dark implications. As in, what if Alastor’s soul, his very essence has become twisted and corrupted by this external power that has bound him to a greater being from the moment he died?
Frankly, it all sounds pretty on point for something that’s likely meant to represent the classic ‘Deal with the Devil’.
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spacehero-23 · 2 years
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Lucie flinched when Will and James tried to hug her because she can't be touched. Which means, after being worried sick about her for god know how many days, Will won't be able to hug his daughter.
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dustndshadows · 1 year
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My thoughts on chain of thorns
I am happy. mostly. Also, GIVE ME MORE SCENES OF EVERYONE BEING HAPPY IN LOVE please. I was tortured for TWO YEARS.
that’s all.
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herondaleminds · 1 year
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Chain Of Thorns Theory:
What if Matthew doesn't die, but gets his rune marks stripped off? What if he takes a punishment? What if he takes Lucie's punishment after she brings Jesse back to life?
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Who is inquisitor Bridgestock trying to blackmail? Charles is the obvious top choice but I also think Alastair is another choice. Maybe that's why they are meeting. If it's either of them then it means Bridgestock knows who they were involved with and they are just letting the other know what's going on and how to deal with it. And like this line just makes me think it's Alastair because who else has very publicly stuck out his neck for a Lightwood and is closer to the Herondales as of late (unless Charles has been doing other things in secret)
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Anyway I just think this is an interesting plot point and connects so many characters to each other. It'll be fascinating to see how this plays out.
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moony401 · 1 year
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I know everyone’s freaking out about the two truths and a lie but I just want to remind y’all that this series features a reverse mermaid fish who’s in a romantic subplot:
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So
It is truly not that far fetched for Belial to be flying around on a talking bird…
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CHOT Two Truths And a Lie 💀
MY GOD YALL CC DID A TWO TRUTHS AND A LIE ON INSTAGRAMMMM 
1) a head of an institute is going to be killed 
2) belial is going to fly around on a talking bird 
3) a main character is going to die and be reborn as a vampire
- shes so good at fucking with us bc shes 100% seen the theories of matthew turning into a vampire AND IF HE DOES TURN WOULD SHE SPOIL ITTT... to throw us off? now these theories dont seem as far fetched, but that's such a confusing and open ended ending bc then hes immortal?? 😩 ig he’ll might show up in TWP 
- i literally do not care about any of the institute heads (except wessa ofc), but its specific enough to make you question it 🤷 its probably the Paris head or another English head, maybe as a plot scheme to get the adults out of town (bc they would have to go take care of it)
- and its kinda reasonable that belial is flying around on a bird?? she’s probably overexaggerating so it seems ridiculous and more like a lie?? to throw us off 😔 but its also rly odd-
HELP IM LITERALLY GOING IN CIRCLES WHY DID SHE DO THIS TO US
@weewoolesbian @rinadragomir
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luciehercndale · 1 year
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Aside from a touch and affection-starved Jesse that I clearly like and I'm sure will enjoy, this situation feels precisely like what happened with Jordelia. COG and COI James had the gracelet, which inhibited his real feelings for Cordelia, and which made Cordelia very frustrated because she didn't know whether James was being truthful with her or not, until she run away to Paris. It seemed as if the gracelet would never break and Jordelia would never be able to declare their feelings, until it breaks. Whenever Jordelia made out, surprisingly, they weakened the power of the gracelet until the gracelet broke down for good. It didn't break because of magic. It broke because of the power of love and passion and desire that James and Cordelia felt for each other. True love broke an enchantment of fake love. I believe that Blackdale are in a same situation. Lucie's love for Jesse kept him more here than there and helped him back into this world. Her love saved his soul, in a way, but in return, she had to give something back. From the snippets released so far, we know that Lucie and Jesse can't touch but they seem to want to try to kiss and make out anyway. And it seems as if it might be working. I think perhaps Lucie was bound by an enchantment like the one in the gracelet, just in reverse. James was manipulated into thinking he liked somebody else and to give the person he loved mixed signals, which made her (Cordelia), decide to run away to cure her broken heart. Lucie, on the contrary, is even more in love with Jesse after brining him back (and so is he), but they can't actively live that love because they can't do the physical/touching part of love. So they might break this curse (because that's what it is) by daring to get physical (as in, to make out et similar). Just like Jordelia did. In return, Jordelia will instead have to work on the building trust and declaring their feelings part, so the not physical part of love, which Blackdale already started building in COI.
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sweetjesuschristwhy · 2 years
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All secrets will be revealed
HEAR THAT MISCOMMUNICATION TROPE?!?
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sjfwrites · 2 years
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Real question: do people like Grace Blackthorn?
Like, can I empathise with her? Of course. Do I like her? Not really. She’s done too many gross things for me.
I’m open to some great character development in Chain of thorns but I don’t know if it will 100% change my mind.
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rainintothesea · 1 year
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Okay, is anyone else as convinced as I am that Tatiana Blackthorn is actually responsible for Jesse‘s death? Because I can’t help but think that, regardless of her love for him, she was convinced, most likely by Belial but perhaps simply by her warped state of mind, that Jesse needed to die in order to achieve her ultimate goal of destroying the Shadowhunters. The circumstances of Jesse‘s death have never made sense to me. I’ve just started my reread of ChoI, and I can’t remember exactly what we learn in the book, but the story of his first mark and subsequent death doesn’t make any sense in my opinion.
Jesse (and Tatiana, of course) says that he was sickly as a child, but the training he does with Grace belies that claim. In the flashback sections of the book, he seems quite capable of being a shadowhunter.  I know we don’t have a full picture of his childhood, but he doesn’t seem to have been any more weak or sickly than Thomas was as a child, and Thomas could handle runes just fine. I know that’s not solid evidence, but it just strikes me as odd. Also, the way his death happens is strange, the delay between his marking ceremony and his death seems unlikely. 
I don’t know. Maybe I’m just grasping at straws, but it’s always seemed suspicious to me, the idea that being marked would kill Jesse. It just seems to play too well into Tatiana‘s hand (and Belial‘s) to simply be a tragic coincidence.
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msbrightsides · 2 years
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CHOT theory time!
This is for all the people who read the first chapter on CHOT
Spoilers Ahead:
So I was thinking about Ariadne and how she found information her father had written about the Herondales and Lightwoods. And how her mother acted when she was in Maurice’s office: no longer warm like she was earlier. I think this confrontation will end one of two ways:
1. Ariadne’s mother kicks her out of the house. Either as punishment for snooping and seeming “untrustworthy”, or bc Ariadne defends her friends against her parents’ prejudice. OR
2. Ariadne chooses to leave the house on her own accord. She’s lonely and her mother is hostile, so why should she stay?
Either way, that brings her to Anna’s doorstep because she feels she has nowhere else to turn. She can’t go to the Institute bc that would look bad on her family and she still cares about them. So she goes to Anna, who ultimately lets her in bc of the information Ariadne has. And then they’ll rekindle their relationship after some angst and tension
What do we think?
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spacehero-23 · 1 year
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“What happened with Grace and James was so terrible, I don’t feel qualified to address it” you’re killing me cassie…
but she also said that Matthew and Alastair could work things out if they only talked to each other, so there’s some hope for that storyline.
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ashalightwood · 1 year
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I want so much that Matthew get his happy ending in chor. I really don't think he'll die but I also don't want him to become a downloader or get Lost in fairie to come back in TWP. I mean, I already think his arc is more similar to Jem's than Will's , but that would be too on the nose and he wouldn't even have a Tessa waiting for him like Jem did. I mean, what's the point of having Matthew coming back without his family, parabatai and friends? They were the most important thing in the world for Math, and he'll lose them? Without having time to rebuild and be in peace with them? No, thanks...
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lifeofbrybooks · 2 years
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The Last Hours’ titles/covers in relation to Great Expectations
The titles of all three TLH books come from the following line from GE (which is found at the very beginning of Chain of Gold):
“Pause you who read this, and think for a moment of the long chain of iron or gold, of thorns or flowers, that would never have bound you, but for the formation of the first link on one memorable day.”
Pip, as the adult narrator, interrupts his own story telling to deliver this bit of foreshadowing after the day he first met Estella. A day that ultimately changed his life. A day that set his expectations for his future. Everything that happens to him moving forward is a product of that day. That day started the first link of a chain that bound his life in misery.
I’ve been thinking about how this quote correlates to our TLH titles and the covers…
Chain of Gold - Cordelia
Cordelia’s life is forever changed by the day she stands up to defend James by ruining herself and then agreeing to his wedding proposal.
Gold typically represents success, intelligence, compassion, reputation, royalty, etc.
All of which can be applied to Cordelia. Her dream to be a hero, her wit, her kind heart, her focus on saving her family name of Carstairs, her becoming a Herondale.
The start of her chain of gold appears to be something positive. Cordelia is getting all these things she wanted, yet it is still a chain that bound her in pain and will affect her for the rest of her life.
Or maybe her chain started all the way back to the day she slid into James bed as a child to pull him back from the shadows. It bound her life to her love and pursuit of James, which led to her ruination both in a societal sense and emotionally.
Chain of Iron - Lucie
I think you could say Lucie’s chain begins when Jesse first helps her out of the hole in Brocelind Forest as a child.
Iron is usually representative of tenacity, stubborness, confidence in power, hard work/grit.
Lucie is nothing if not stubborn, which we see in her determination to raise Jesse. She was confident that she and Grace could bring him back, and she worked tirelessly to do so. In the end, she uses her own power to resurrect him, despite the consequences.
Her chain started in Brocelind Forest and it is a testament to her strength and determination to a fault with the committance of necromancy. Her future is changed because she met Jesse. The legacy of her entire blood line may be bound by her chain of iron because of it.
Chain of Thorns - Grace
Grace’s first link could be the day her parents died, the day Tatiana adopted her or the day she was enchanted.
Thorns represent sorrow, sin and hardship. When paired with a rose, it’s often symbolic of pain and pleasure. Thorns also protect roses from predators.
Roses with their thorns symbolize sacrifice.
(Since this is only a trilogy, we won’t get a Chain of Flowers. However, based on the cover art, it seems that roses are being balanced with the thorns to complete the quote. It gives me the feeling that sacrifice will play a huge role in this book.)
The day Grace was bought/adopted by Tatiana had begun her chain of thorns, a life of abuse and neglect, a series of events that ruined her life and the lives of so many others. Will Grace sacrifice herself or something/someone she cares about to atone for the sins of her adoptive mother?
Side note! Because of the symbolism, I also think James will be the reverse cover. His life and all of his friends’ lives were changed the day he agreed to cut the thorns around Blackthorn Manor in Idris. It led him to a life of pain and sorrow, and possibly altered the Shadow World forever.
And the chain of this entire story began the day Will read Tatiana’s diary. Or the day Will released the demon from the Pyxis and thought he was cursed. Or even the day Edmund met Linnette.
Our lives are forever altered by single days that don’t seem all that important in the present, but in hindsight changed everything. *Existential life crisis incoming.*
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theamazingwhizzo · 1 year
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What if I told you TLH doesn't happen in the past and it's happening around the same time as TDA?
Let me explain. In COG Cordelia saw a "view of dead ground and broken trees, and a red moon rising". The desert, the mention of a red moon, is literally a description of Thule. I couldn't understand how it was possible if Thule and our dimension split during the dark war, way after TLH.
But what if TLH isn't happening in our dimension but another one exaclty the same as our own, except is 1903. Maybe time passes slower, so it's identical but with different times.
And the Avenger Assemblence Cassandra Clare talked about, with the characters of the shadowhunter chronicals in TWP (And has confirmed they aren't ghost), is possible because they travel from their dimension to ours, like Emma and Julian did.
Just a thought
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