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hacawijo · 8 months ago
Throne of Glass Ships: Chapter Guide
So this isn’t EVERY interaction between every couple, just the particularly crucial or particularly lovely [though I didn’t add as much from Crown of Midnight because Chaolaena honestly kills me still] - I also skipped Nesryn and Chaol because that just never really seemed real for me. This is nice if you just need a quick serotonin boost on your fave ToG couples :)
- Chaolaena (Chaol and Celaena) - 
ToG: ch. 24, 28, 30, 32, 34-39, 43, 45-48, 50, 52-54
CoM: ch. 1, 4, 5, 7, 8, 10-13, 15, 17-19, 21, 22, 23, 24, 26, 55
- Chaorene (Chaol and Yrene) - 
ToD: ch. 5-9, 11-16, 18-23, 25-28, 32, 36, 38-40, 43-46, 52-56, 58, 60-65, 67, 68
KoA: ch. 6, 11, 18, 19, 39, 45, 48, 54, 66, 72, 91, 101, 111, 113, 116, 120
- Dorian and Sorscha - 
HoF: ch. 6, 15, 18, 26, 29, 40, 49, 56, 63, 64
- Elorcan (Elide and Lorcan) - 
EoS: ch. 9, 10, 19, 30, 40, 41, 43, 49, 50, 52, 56-58, 60, 63, 67, 71, 72, 74, 75
KoA: 2, 5, 21, 23, 30, 36, 37, 42, 44, 51, 58-61, 64, 79, 80, 87, 111, 117, 118, [A Better World]
-  Lysaedion (Lysandra and Aedion) - 
EoS: ch. 14, 29, 32, 37, 45, 47, 59, 69
KoA: ch. 1, 10, 16, 17, 34, 46, 47, 53, 63, 69, 75, 81, 82, 88, 89, 100, 102, 104, 105, 107, 117, 118, [A Better World]
- Manorian (Manon and Dorian) - 
QoS: ch. 58, 88
EoS: ch. 7, 39, 42, 44-46, 48, 54, 60, 75
KoA: ch. 4, 7, 13-15, 24, 32, 33, 40, 43, 52, 55, 56, 62, 65, 74, 78, 82, 107, 117, 118, 120
- Nesryn and Sartaq - 
ToD: ch. 6, 11-13, 21, 24, 25, 29-31, 33-35, 37, 41, 42, 47-51, 57, 64-66
KoA: ch. 6, 51, 101, 107, 116, 120
- Rowaelin (Rowan and Aelin) - 
HoF: ch. 22, 25, 28, 33, 34, 35, 39, 41-43, 45-48, 50, 52, 55, 57, 59, 60, 68
QoS: ch. 26, 28, 29, 34, 36, 39, 41-44, 47, 49, 52, 56, 60, 64, 65, 67, 83, 89
EoS: ch. 2, 5, 8, 27, 28, 31, 32, 35, 36, 38, 39, 44, 54, 60, 71, 74, 75
KoA: ch. 28-31, 35, 37, 38, 41, 44, 48-50, 54, 57, 59, 66, 67, 87, 92, 93, 96, 98, 99, 101, 103, 106-108, 110, 112, 114-121, [A Better World]
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Crown of Midnight explained badly:
Chaol and Celaena: loooove we’re in love we’re in loooove this is wonderful
Dorian: I am literally falling apart at the seams
Chaol and celaena: still in loooooove
Dorian: I am still falling apart at the seams
Chaol and Celaena: not in love. Irreparable damage.
Dorian: oh goody
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wrathscannoli · a month ago
Chaolena for the domestic ships
Ah yes yes! I never get to talk about them! As much as I love Rowaelin I will always have a soft spot for these two.
who reaches out to new neighbors: Oh Celaena. 100% she takes Chaol by the hand and drags him with her. He's silent most of the time offering a few tight smiles and nods. "Sorry he's just a man of few words."
who remembers to buy healthy food: Chaol
who remembers to buy junk food: Celaena
who fixes the oven when it breaks: lmaooo Chaol. He looks over the stove and the oven reading the instruction booklet, watching video tutorials on YouTube to figure it out. Celaena suggests a repairman and he says no he's fine he's got this. Another hour passes. Celaena calls someone who shows up asking what the issue is and Chaol shoots an annoyed but grateful glance her way before explaining. When he stands by her he goes, "I almost had it." She pats his shoulder, "Sure you did."
who waters the plants/feeds their pet(s): omg lol they have zero plants. They tried and the plants always died. But Fleetfoot is fed by Celaena. Chaol has a soft spot for the pup and sneaks treats to which Celaena scolds Chaol because it's not fair he fuses over her obnoxious sweet tooth and yet caters to Fleetfoots food begging eyes.
who wakes up earlier: Chaol who rouses Celaena awake and they go for a morning run. If they don't run together their day feels off.
who makes the bed: Chaol
who makes the coffee: Celaena when she doesn't take long showers in the morning otherwise Chaol.
who burns breakfast: Celaena
how do they let each other know they’re leaving the house: for the most part Celaena is still eating so he kisses her cheeks, says he loves her. She says it back in the middle of eating. Then shouts, "Tell Dorian hey and see if he's coming to over later."
how do they greet each other when one of them gets home: Celaena greets him with a smile, wraps her arms around him. He hold her close until she wrinkles her nose. "What?" "You smell like sweat." He rolls his eyes. "People sweat when they're at the gym".
who brings home little gifts like flowers/chocolates more often: Chaol. He goes to bookstores on his break and sometimes specialty candy stores (even though he frowns at the junk food from grocery stores. ) bakeries are for when he fucks up bad.
who picks the movie for movie night: Celaena prepicks the movie. Chaol's usually okay with it. When it's something he really doesn't want they go running. First one to make it down the block and back wins. Chaol's never lost.
their favorite kind of movie to watch: Chaol: epic fantasies like lotr. Omg he's a huge lotr fan. War/military films. Films set in a medieval era. A Marvel guy. Celaena: equally enjoys the epic fantasies, loves comedy movies (Chaol laughs at them), blockbusters and spy films. A marvel gal. She enjoys jurassic park and 100% has an inflatable trex costume.
who first suggests a pillow fort: Celaena
who builds the pillow fort: Celaena who makes Chaol help, "If you love me you'll help." She pouts and he shakes his head and stands.
who tries to distract the other during the movie: Celaena
who falls asleep first: Celaena and Chaol smirks to himself knowing the sugar crash, he fully warned her about, knocked her out.
who is big spoon/little spoon: Chaol thinks he's the big spoon..he is infact not.
Domestic ship asks
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v-anserra · 5 months ago
Since some of my mutuals are currently reading it, spoilers for CoM (+ vague? spoilers for HoF and ToD).
Every time I see the “e***** has four books worth of buildup” discourse to debunk Gwynriel I laugh a little because I remember that Sarah wrote about Chaol imagining a life with Celaena, wanting to marry her and have children with her, only to introduce the love of her life a book later and the love of his life four books later.
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sunflowix · 2 months ago
I have been composing a mental list of songs that remind me of ToG ships for a few weeks now and this is what I’ve got so far.
Aelin x Rowan- Fire on Fire, Sam Smith
Sam x Celaena- Dancing With Your Ghost, Sasha Sloan
Chaol x Celaena- Castles, Freya Riding
Chaol x Nesryn- Another Place, Bastille and Alessia Cara
Elide x Lorcan- Safe and Sound, Taylor Swift I Promise You, Yoolee
Dorian x Celaena- You & I, One Direction
That’s all I’ve got right now. I’ll probably be adding onto this once I think of songs for the rest. If you’ve got any suggestions I’d love to hear them. I still need some for Sartaq x Nesryn, Yrene x Chaol, and Manon x Dorian. Or if there is a ship I forgot to mention, whether or not you have a song for them (ships do not have to be canon. they can be silly or not, I don’t care). I would love to hear from you people.
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theresyourfireandblood · 7 months ago
“He sucked on his lower lip for a moment. “When did you get those?” She knew he meant the three enormous lines that ran down her back.
“When do you think?” she said. He didn’t reply, and she looked up at the canopy of leaves above them. A morning breeze sent them all shuddering, ripping a few from where they clung to the skeletal branches. “Those three, I received my first day in Endovier.”
“What did you do to deserve it?””
- Aelin and Chaol, Throne of Glass.
“The door opened. Rowan. She kept herself in that cool darkness, savoring the growing chill in the water, the quieting pulse under her skin. He sounded about halfway across the room when his footsteps halted.
His breath caught, harsh enough that she looked over her shoulder.
But his eyes ­weren’t on her face. Or the water. They ­were on her bare back.
Curled as she was against her knees, he could see the ­whole expanse of ruined flesh, each scar from the lashings. “Who did that do you?”
It would have been easy to lie, but she was so tired, and he had saved her useless hide. So she said, “A lot of people. I spent some time in the Salt Mines of Endovier.”
He was so still that she wondered if he’d stopped breathing. “How long?” he asked after a moment. She braced herself for the pity, but his face was so carefully blank—­no, not blank. Calm with lethal rage.”
- Aelin and Rowan, Heir of Fire.
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wessa1880 · 4 months ago
Rowan: *cool and collected, badass, level-headed* I got this under control.
Aelin: *gets a paper cut* Ouch
Rowan: *panics, crashes into everything in his haste* OMFG ARE YOU OK?! YOU'RE BLEEDING! THAT'S IT, WE'RE GOING TO THE HOSPITAL!
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justreadertings · 5 months ago
Queen of Shadows page 536
Thinking about: Chaol and Aelin entering the glass castle for the last time with her escorting him by manacles and chains and how theyve come such a far way from the loyal Captain of the Guard and the Assassian with no loyalty in a lightless prison
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Lol remember when Aelin just continued to show up at these secret meetings Chaol planned and he’s having to nonchalantly act like that is normal but inwardly he’s freaking out bc he’s not sure how she found out about them??
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wrathscannoli · 6 months ago
Short and sweet; what are your thoughts on the likelihood of Bry and Hun being endgame in CC? Given SJM's track record with "first couples" in her series.
Short and sweet: Very likely anon. In fact, guaranteed. They will absolutely have struggles in their relationship. To what level? Who knows.
The first couple thing...this is something I've wanted to bring up for sometime(this actually reminded me to make a post on this). People seem to forget that Hunt isn't Bryce’s first love interest, nor was she his.
Aelin and Feyre both had partners who didn't workout. SJM kinda combined the twos past partners to create Bryces. A tragic past love interest (Sam for Aelin, Connor for Bryce.) A boring love interest that's barely around (Issac Hale for Feyre and Reid Redner for Bryce).
Aelin - Sam, Chaol, Rowan (I didn't add Dorian because it's a few kisses and honestly a simple crush. It's clear in Throne of Glass her first on page romance is to be with Chaol.)
Feyre - Issac, Tamlin, Rhpysand
Bryce - Reid, Connor, Hunt
There's also the fact that 90% of their interactions are more similar to Feysand, Rowaelin, and Nessian. Unlike with Tam where it's red signs galore or Chaol, where he struggles to accept Aelin as fae.
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hacawijo · 7 months ago
I know that it feels kind of scary to see that a close friend of SJM’s ships something that you don’t. It’s scary because it’s hard to imagine that a close friend wouldn’t have some kind of influence on their bff’s creative projects/or some kind of insider knowledge. But I really trust that SJM knows and has sort of always known how all of these HEAs are going to end up, and I don’t think that anything anyone says is going to change that or has in the past. I also believe Steph when they say that Sarah doesn’t tell them much about the story before-hand. Sarah has said that she knows exactly what the next book will be about! She just hasn’t written it yet.
I certainly don’t agree with Steph and @highlord-tarquin about Elriel, but that’s the fun of fandom! Talking and theorizing and not necessarily agreeing but seeing each other’s points. I didn’t watch their live, but I do think that part of what people like about that kind of thing is that it is just a couple fans shooting the sh*t. I’m sure we’ve all phrased things in a way that didn’t come off as we meant it while we were first reacting to or processing something for the first time, and I really believe that Steph and Ava love these books and care about these characters, just like the rest of us. If they did say things that were problematic, I’m sure they’ve reflected on them and will adjust in kind, as many of us do when someone calls us in (in and not out, hopefully!)
Will I continue to strongly root for Elriel? Absolutely 🤣 Am I like 98% sure that that’s the direction the story is going on? Yes! But it just comes off really aggressive and insecure to delegitimize fan opinions and first impressions/reactions (and they are, in this setting, just fans like the rest of us!) with attacks on their personalities and values because you disagree, and then write them off completely now and forever.
Over the past few weeks I’ve had great conversations with people who love Gwynriel and Elriel and some who just want Lucien to be happy, and I know that they’ve all been fun and respectful, so I know that the majority of people ARE being warm and taking this for the fun that it is. I’ve also seen a couple of pretty extreme anti reactions from people who ship Gwynriel AND those who ship Elriel; there is toxicity coming from BOTH ENDS, and it is really alarming.
I TRUST SARAH! I have never been dissatisfied with a friendship or endgame romance that she’s written, and I know that whatever happens she understands what needs to be written in order for a relationship to make sense/feel right. Tbh I was pretty freakin devastated about Chaol and Celaena, but now I do love Rowaelin and Chaorene. I’m gonna keep stanning Elriel and Elain and Azriel and Gwyn and Lucien, and I’m gonna keep theorizing, but I’m gonna work hard to not turn something that has brought me so much joy into something that makes me feel defensive and stressed (at least not in the long term, I’m always a little stressed about my ships when new info happens 🥲)
I really, really understand feeling powerless and misunderstood, and I REALLY understand what characters and fictional worlds can mean to people (they mean a great deal to me). But it’s also because of that understanding that I won’t begrudge someone their ship or opinions if I’m pretty sure their intentions are good, as most people’s are in these cases.
Some people do hate Elain for the wrong reasons, and there may be some folks who only stan Gwynriel because they don’t want Azriel with Elain, but I think most people just love Gwyn and see it differently. Keep calling people in when you see something that doesn’t feel right, but I think we should all stop being spiteful.
I hope that I haven’t made anyone feel unheard with this speech, and honestly I’m a little scared to post it, but I want to share my thoughts with a great fandom and hope that other folks will feel as welcome coming into it as I have!
Thank you all for your great theories and thought-provoking discussions 😊
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ninamorozova · 2 months ago
Spoilers from Queen of Shadows by Sarah J. Maas
I'm reading Queen of Shadows and I just finished seventh chapter and seriously, the resentment between Chaol and Aelin hurts like hell 😭.
I don't know what think, Chaol has been too too too harsh and Aelin seemed somewhat selfish when she reproached his attitude in reference to what happened to Dorian.
But on the other hand, it seemed to me a very intense and human scene, painful but so good 👌🏻.
Btw, I no longer have hope in them as a couple 😂😭, too much resentment.
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