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theerurishipper · 7 months

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Hey I have a question I read some takes that Adrien is a supposedly good liar? How though are there any examples..I always just assumed people never put two and two together with his identity is because he doesn't connect much with the class nor does Gabriel so it made sense in my head. I'm sorry if I don't actually make sense I just assumed that if even one of the classmates kept getting closer with him maybe he'll open up. I thought that'd be Nino but like I feel that he's so much more closer to his girlfriend and with Kagami that scene where she backed him into the wall and she said that wasn't the real him when he did goofy poses made me uncomfortable and sad for him. Marinette kind of disappoints me as a love interest like that time he was in the park on the bench and she decided that this was the perfect time to give him a present made me annoyed like I understood she has such a huge admiration for the guy and will climb mountains for him but I thought she'd get past that and they'd have like a one on one you know a talk. Usually the love interest would start to bond and grow closer but like I feel she's more into the relationship for herself because of this whole fantasy she builds up in her head it's why their relationship kind of a bummer.

I don't think Adrien that hard to get him to open up to but again this is my own opinion. I don't know really I just feel if someone like a teacher, classmate or even Master Fu get him to open up more and more and they start to bond. I feel like all he wants is a relationship to not be so conditional if someone kind enough allowed him a shoulder to cry on or even acknowlege his habits or when he's in a bad mood I think it'd work I ain't sure though. I wish the dude had more male friends.

I don't really get why the classmates just think Gabriel a strict dude when he seems pretty abusive. Marinette especially she knows how strict he is especially in season 5 and the whole adrigami thing and even with Chloe mom lol I think abuse or parental abuse just doesn't register an actual thing in her mind which is weird lol.

I don't watch Miraculous religiously lol I just watch it sometimes so if my takes and memories are wrong please forgive me. I am so sorry for this being a long ask I ramble way to much.

No need to apologize anon! Feel free to ask me anything.

Personally, when I say that Adrien is a good liar, I don't mean lying in the traditional sense. He doesn't do a lot of actual lying (except when it comes to his secret identity), but it's more than he doesn't really reveal his true self to anybody. He doesn't fake his personality per se, but he only shows people the parts of himself that he thinks they will like because he's been conditioned to believe that he has to conform to everybody's expectations of him and be perfect for them. It's why Chat Noir is so different from Adrien Agreste™, because he's always performing in every part of his life. And putting on a mask at all times isn't the best way to connect on a deeper and intimate level with the people around him. I think Adrien's friendships with Nino and Kagami and everyone else is real, and whatever he shows them is genuine, but it's still not all of him, and he still feels the need to hide the parts of him that he feels they won't like. His relationship with Ladybug is an exception (obligatory until Season 4 disclaimer) because while he's still putting on a performance, it's not for the sake of pleasing her.

You mentioned his closeness with Nino, and I always felt that Adrien was more at ease with Nino than anyone save Plagg. He was more relaxed and at ease with Nino in like, Seasons 1 and 2, enough to show a little more of himself, and I got the sense that he was a little more open with Nino. Then Rocketear happened and Adrien pretty much shut down on that front and started to put on the mask even more, and their friendship never was the same after that.

The thing with Kagami is that she was right about Adrien. Chat Noir isn't his "true self," it's a persona based on him acting out in the way he's never allowed to as Adrien. And the model Adrien is a persona crafted based on the demands from his abusive father who expects him to be perfect. Kagami isn't able to see under Adrien's mask, but she's able to understand that he's putting on a front, and she wants him to quit it.

Marinette kind of disappoints me as a love interest like that time he was in the park on the bench and she decided that this was the perfect time to give him a present made me annoyed like I understood she has such a huge admiration for the guy and will climb mountains for him but I thought she'd get past that and they'd have like a one on one you know a talk. Usually the love interest would start to bond and grow closer but like I feel she's more into the relationship for herself because of this whole fantasy she builds up in her head it's why their relationship kind of a bummer.

This is exactly the problem I have with canon Adrienette. Marinette literally doesn't even know that Adrien is putting on an act, and she literally thinks he's perfect. It was so funny to me when Pretension made Gabe out to be so wrong and evil when he accused Marinette of falling wholesale for Adrien's performance, because Gabe was fucking right, damn it.

The problem is that the show never challenges Marinette's view of Adrien. She doesn't have to learn to look past his masks and see him for who he really is, he just up and tells her thanks to an Akuma's influence, and then he spends the rest of the time in Season 5 pursuing her, so she just gets handed her trophy boyfriend without having to put in the effort of getting to know him as a person. The show never wants Marinette to be inconvenienced by *checks notes* learning to see Adrien as a person, and it just wants her to get her dream relationship without an effort on her part to truly understand him. She's not much different from the rest of her class or any of Adrien's fans, because they all just see what they want to see and what he shows them. By virtue of them being the endgame, Marinette should have been special in that she tried to look past the masks to understand the real Adrien once she realized his "perfection" was a front and an act, but she didn't. She remained as delusional about him as she always was and got the relationship dropped in her lap. Thanks, I hate it.

I don't think it's that simple for him to break out years of being conditioned to conform to other people's needs, but the fact remains that, you know, no one even cares. Kagami was literally the only one who cared enough to try and understand him, and even she was made to spend Season 4 as Adrien's bitter ex (not Kagami salt, I love Kagami, this is just writing salt). The rest of the class admits in Felix that they don't really know him, and they never really seem to try to get to know him either. They do care about him, but not that much, you know? Everyone is honestly content to keep seeing him as the perfect guy, and no one tries to see the real him. Like I said, I feel like he was a little more open with Nino in the earlier seasons, and he's more open with Plagg, but that's about it. He was a little more open with Ladybug, but that also went down the drain in Season 4 because of the Ladynoir conflict. It took an Akuma for him to open up to Marinette. I don't blame anyone for falling for his act, but they clearly don't really care to get to know him either. I think you're right in a way, that he would be a little more willing to drop the act if someone tried to understand him, like Nino and Plagg. But no one cares, unfortunately.

Tbf they don't know much about what goes on inside the Agreste household, and they are just kids, so I understand that they wouldn't be able to completely recognize what's going on with Adrien. But the show itself doesn't think Audrey and Gabriel are abusive, and Marinette is basically the mouthpiece for all that, hence the solution is that apparently Chloe and Audrey should just bond, and Adrien should be fed a lie that Gabriel is not a bad guy actually. Marinette seems to have a pretty black and white view of the matter, and since she comes from a loving home, it doesn't really register to her that parents can be so awful. But the show frames Marinette as in the right to push Chloe and Audrey together when what Chloe needs is to get the hell away from that abusive person. It tries to frame her as right for gaslighting Adrien into loving his abuser. It's pretty nasty stuff.

But that's just my opinion. Honestly, I think the best meta on this subject is this excellent post by @fearlessinger. It's a wonderful analysis, I highly recommend it.

Thank you for your ask!

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lakesparkles · 10 months

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i also enjoy your animal designs! chloe and steph being a possum and raccoon is fucking INSPIRED, critter lesbians, what crimes will they commit?

also tiger alex... love her dearly.

Thank you SO MUCH!! This made my day! The LiS fandom here is so sweet, you guys have no idea how much your nice tags and messages motivate me :D

One of the reasons I decided these animals for them two is because I thought they would be cool together haha and I'm so glad you like tiger Alex <3

I didn't answer you yesterday because I wanted to draw them (+ Max) for you:

#ask tag #life is strange #chloe price #max caulfield #pricefield #steph gingrich #alex chen #chenrich #today was ughhh so stressing #so drawing them after everything was very comforting

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ridiculously-over-obsessed · 3 months

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Ooh how about 19 please? 😍

Absolutely! Also this made me check under my bed for cameras or you because I had in fact not eaten today because I am ill and hadn't psyched myself up to go make it, but I have since rectified that fact dfklgjdflkgjfd

ANYWAY, on with the prompt!

prompt list here!

19. “Have you eaten anything?”

It had been a long and hard week in Seattle for Beca. The call had come in the middle of the night, leaving her to scramble out of bed and hastily cram some clothes into a bag before heading to the airport.

Her mom was in an accident. It looked bad, really bad. Her aunt had told her that she had to get here just in case. So she did, she put all her flight anxiety to oneside and sat in the metal death tube for five and a half hours, flagged down a cab, and went straight to the hospital.

She got there just in time to say goodbye to her mom, sat squeezing her hand tightly as the life support machine was turned off, sobbing into her shoulder as she lost her mom for good.

As her next of kin, Beca now had to figure out what to do with all her mom's stuff, organise the funeral, inform the members of her family what had happened. She emailed her professors to explain she needed a few weeks off and they were thankfully very understanding, the Bellas had offered to drop everything and come out to help her but she turned them down. This was her responsibility, her mom, she had to sort this whole mess out.

"Have you eaten anything?"

Beca sniffed softly as she shook her head. She had been sat on the front porch of her childhood home, staring vacantly out at the street, barely noticing the chilly wind that bit at her skin. She had grown up in Seattle after all, she was used to this kind of cold.

"No. I'm not hungry."

There was a soft sigh from above her before the porch creaked next to her, turning her head slightly to look at the woman now sat beside her. Chloe gave her a small, sad smile, tucking a loose lock of hair behind Beca's ear. It was limp and a little greasy, Beca having been far too busy and lost in her grief to even entertain the idea of a shower since she'd arrived in Seattle.

"You need to eat Becs. You've barely had anything since you got here."

"I know." Beca swallowed thickly, subtly shifting closer to Chloe so she could rest her head on her shoulder, "But everything makes my stomach turn."

"You want to try some soup?" Chloe offered, winding her arm around Beca's shoulders, giving them a gentle squeeze.

"Maybe." Beca nodded a little, "That could be nice."

They sat in silence for a few moments, Beca curling more into Chloe's embrace, slowly trying to get as close to her as possible. Chloe didn't mind, it was one of the reasons she had insisted on coming with Beca. She knew how difficult Beca found it to open to people, to be emotionally vulnerable with anyone, the only other person in the world that Beca would be this close too, figuratively or literally, was her mom.

"I don't want to go tomorrow." Beca's voice was thick as Chloe felt the side of her neck where her face was buried start to grow damp.

"I know baby..." Chloe sighed softly, rubbing small circles on Beca's back and kissing the crown of her head, "But you have to. You'd never forgive yourself if you missed the funeral."

"But if I go then it'll be real..." Beca whispered, "She'll really be gone Chlo, I... I don't want her to be gone, it's not fair."

"It's not." Chloe shook her head, feeling Beca start to shake as her gentle tears turn into sobs, "You're right, it's not fair that she's gone. I wish I could change it for you."

Beca didn't say anything for a while, simply sobbing in Chloe's embrace. Chloe stroked her hair, shushing her softly but letting her cry herself out. She hadn't cried since the hospital, and that had been five days ago. Beca was really good at bottling her emotions up until they exploded out at the wrong moment, and with a loss of this magnitude, if she crammed it all down it would destroy her. So Chloe would let her feel everything that she needed to, let her be angry or sad or irritated or tired, or even a combination of the above, and not take it to heart, because at the end of the day at least Beca was feeling something.

"I'm really glad you're here." Beca croaked as her sobs subsided, sitting up a little as she wiped at her face with her sleeve and resting her forehead against Chloe's, "I... I wouldn't be able to do this without you. Thank you for coming."

"Of course." Chloe smiled at her brushing her hair from her face again, "Even though you insisted on me staying at home?"

"Yeah." Beca managed a small grin in return, "I'm glad you didn't listen to me."

"C'mon." Chloe took Beca's hands in hers, gently encouraging her to her feet, "It's cold out here, your hands are turning red. Let's get you something to eat inside."

"Okay." Beca nodded, "Would you be mad if I said I wanted pizza and not soup?"

"No." Chloe grinned, arm around Beca's waist, "What made you want pizza instead?"

"Mom and I really like this place a few blocks away, they do these insanely good cheesy garlic knots." Beca shrugged a little, expression getting watery again, "I just... I thought it would nice to share that with you."

"That's really sweet Becs." Chloe beamed at her, "I'd like that."

"Cool." Beca swallowed thickly, eyes roaming over the familiar interior of the home she had grown up in, feeling that ache settle in her chest again, "I wish she got to meet you Chloe. She would've loved you."

"Me too." Chloe nodded sadly, "I never got to thank her for giving me you."

#pitch perfect #pitch perfect fanfic #bechloe #bechloe fics #bechloe fanfic #beca mitchell #chloe beale #fanfiction #my fic #mini fic tag #ask meme things #prompt things #massivedrickhead

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h0n3yk1tt3n · 2 months

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ok I’m obsessed with the squip as Alastor

thinking about fallen angel michael…

Gods me too

Michael's eyes were not kind to me

#asks #hazbin hotel #be more chill #ive also imagined jenna and chloe being the fallen angels to christine and brooke respectively #christine: oh! what if i- jenna: sing a song? christine: you knew i would say that <3 jenna: because i know you <3 #plus chloe as a fallen angel feels very fitting as like a falling from her high position of power (popularity)#im saying that like. any “mainstream(?)” bmc ship could work in a chaggie role #jeremy heere #michael mell #boyf riends #i should probably add a tag specifically for art and arty asks huh #ill think on it #mj arts

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bijoumikhawal · 2 months

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a lot of the talk about Bushnell is reminding me of my "the "mentally ill" have their right to violence revoked" thing again

like. When you're deemed mentally ill, suddenly you must stress how you are more likely to be a victim of violence than a perpetrator to be deemed as human. Because any violence you commit, as a crazy person, is bad. It cannot carry rationale, because you are crazy. If I, as an autistic person, hit someone who was hurting me and got in legal trouble, I can be referred to as just "crazy" instead of as a victim responding to an aggressor. It's an underdiscussed area of dehumanization.

And that's before we talk about intersectionality, and before we talk about how this factors into the idea of ODD, and the "violent" responses patients have to doctors (including those who simply aren't white, and those forced on meds that hurt them, and those resisting sexual assault, and-).

But this is not just interpersonally political, it is political at scale. Black men were targeted by schizophrenia diagnoses during the Civil Rights era (and this is also around when schizophrenia became a "scary" illness). The crazy cannot have valid political criticisms, as a movement (remember that being "crazy" is a vector of oppression abd marginalization) or as individuals in other movements.

Ive seen both the sentiment of "oh Aaron is gonna be slandered as crazy" and exactly what the sentiment warns of- "we can't valorize suicide from the mentally ill". And the first isn't wrong, because society at large does view the "crazy" as lacking political agency, but it's lacking.

Bushnell had been trying very hard to get out of his military contract without being imprisoned at best, while witnessing genocide and knowing he was complicit. He may not have had clinical depression normally, but that would inspire a mental rational response of situational depression (and yes, mental health issues can be a rational response to horrible circumstances). Further, I know of instances of self immolation that WERE done by people who did have long standing mental health issues and were done to protest the treatment they'd experienced that caused them and that resulted from their existence. Mental illness and divergence from the norm is more complicated than just "these people are incapable of rationality, they are incapable of political thought, and they are incapable of agency".

#cipher talk #Aaron Bushnell #Ask to tag #Self immolation #Suicide tw #I'm thinking about how like. Chloe Sagal did what she did to protest how she was treated as a mentally ill trans woman and highlighted #Her mental illness and struggle with homelessness primarily. And it WAS a political protest #The only really. Sensible thing I've seen on this about how it was a suicide was 1) someone pointing out some people may relapse in #Response to this WITHOUT delegitimizing his actions and sharing helpline sources #And 2) another person pointing out it'd be absurd to accuse hunger strikers of promoting eating disorders #Like. You know what I think soldiers who are complicit in genocide probably DO develop mental health problems #And I see the idea that they do used in some pretty batshit ways recently!#But so- so fucking what #Resistance fighters and genocide victims have mental health issues too #Why is it for soldiers ignored or used to dehumanize victims until of the soldiers turns is gun away from them?#What's next am I gonna watch people delegitimize the actions of Palestinian resistance and the Bielskis and fucking #Unistʼotʼen as the actions of people who 'just have mental health issues' and therefore can't be political?#We also have the similar protests of Black people (two in the last 6 months) being swept aside

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mountain-dew-tickledpink · 4 months

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chloe for the hc ask game :3

Realistic — Chloe used to add little hearts on her ‘i’s in elementary school because she thought it was cute. She wrote a few stupid love letters to Jake when she was in middle school using those heart ‘i’s too

Unrealistic but funny — she had this weird kind of crush on Christine during the musical that she wasn’t aware of but was one of those things where she thought it was a “I’m feeling weird in my stomach because I absolutely despite her” kind of deals

Heart-wrenching kinda — so my version of Chloe has a Mexican mom and her mom had experienced a lot of colorism when she was younger so she kind of ends up projecting that onto Chloe and how chloe perceives herself

fuck canon — i don’t care what that locker had it in, Chloe is NOT a drake fan (I mean it does actually fit for her character but I refuse to believe it)

#max and ruby discourse #chloe valentine #BMC #be more chill #I feel like I had a tag for you Jupes but I don’t remember #Ask meme

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lohstandfound · 2 months

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pinkberry 46?

Brooke couldn't stand it.

She had always been slow to anger, generally one to avoid any sort of conflict. She would never dare to confront Chloe about anything.

But this?

Oh, she was absolutely sick of it.

Sitting on Chloe's bed, hugging a pillow like she had done many, many, many times before. Watching as Chloe paced around the room ranting about none other than her on-again off-again boyfriend.

(For the record, they were very recently off again).

"Jake did this" and "Jake did that" and "can you believe what he did?" and "i can't fucking stand him" and many other insults. Chloe said mostly the same thing every single time, Brooke could almost tick off a mental checklist or a bingo card.

Why the fuck did Jake get to be the sole focus of Chloe's attention?

He didn't deserve it, he didn't deserve Chloe, he didn't deserve any of her tears.

He wasn't worth it.

(Jake was a perfectly reasonable guy when the focus wasn't his volatile relationship with Chloe, but Brooke couldn't help but resent him. Was it unreasonable? She was yet to decide).

Why couldn't Chloe look at her for once? Why couldn't Chloe see what was right in front of her? Why couldn't Chloe pay attention to her?

Brooke wasn't really one to act on impulse.

But honestly? She was sick of Chloe being focused only on Jake. It was always about Jake, Jake was the only person she could talk about. Jake this, Jake that, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake, Jake.

Chloe was still in the middle of her rant about Jake when Brooke finally made her move. It happened quickly.

She put down the pillow.

She stood up.

She walked over to Chloe.

She grabbed Chloe's shirt and pulled her down.

She pressed her lips to Chloe's.

Chloe's lips were soft. They tasted of strawberries. Brooke liked the feeling of Chloe's lips on her own.

Chloe was stunned once Brooke had pulled away, her face slowly turning red.

"You were talking about him too much. He doesn't deserve you," Brooke said.

#lohst.txt #ask tag #theabyssgazesalsointoyou #pinkberry #brooke lohst #chloe valentine #i had a wonderful idea and then i lost it and i had barely even started #and its late so this isn't as good as i wanted it to be #oh well #brooke absolutely hating jake's guts purely because she's i love with chloe >>

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blackwell-academys-airdrop · 1 year

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Chloe: [practicing pick-up lines in her bathroom] Dang girl that's a nice shirt can I talk you out of it

Chloe: Are you a toaster because I wanna take a bath with you, wait that doesn't make sense

Chloe: Excuse me are you a sea lion because I could sea you lion in my bed

Chloe: Excuse me are you my pinky toe because I wanna bang you on my coffee table

Chloe: Ok that one was just stupid

#she's practicing for a competition against steph #innuendo #ask to tag #life is strange #lis #incorrect quotes #queue #chloe price #no she is not above the pick-up line tactic

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ninadove · 7 months

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Chloe Bourgeois, Paris Special AU, Hero Chloe Bourgeois, Zoe Lee

“Are you sure this is a good idea?”

In the huge mirror that crowned her console, Chloé caught a glimpse of her sister — her sad puppy eyes piercing through the subdued atmosphere. Deciding it would be best to ignore them, she redirected her attention to her cleansing cream.

“Someone has to stand up to those punks,” she mumbled, pressing a generous dollop of product onto a cotton pad. “And clearly, the police are in way over their head.”

She remembered the long hours in the hospital, practically force-feeding Sabrina as she waited by her father’s bedside. The fight against Shadybug and Claw Noir had never been a fair one.

That was, of course, until Hesperia showed up.

“I am so over their so-called reign of terror,” she groaned, dabbing the soft circle against her skin. “If magic is the only way to defeat them, then stupid magic it will be.”

“Yeah,” Zoe tried, “but that guy already has magic. Don’t you think it’s a bit weird he’d recruit teenagers to fight in his place?”

She had a point, Chloé knew she did. But she could not afford to question the only adult who had ever shown her an ounce of recognition.

“Don’t be ridiculous,” she sighed, throwing away the stained pad without another look. “That old man is, like, forty. I’m sure he can’t even bend down without every single joint in his body screaming in agony.”

No answer. The older sister bit her lip as she zipped her toiletry bag shut.

The truth was that she had always wanted to be a hero, because she had always wanted to be loved. And yet, the concretisation of her dream only seemed to threaten the few relationships she did have.

She gazed into the silver surface once more, catching the doubt in both of their reflections.

“Don’t frown,” she commanded, unsure who she was talking to. “It will give you wrinkles.”

Ask game here!

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