#christian antisemitism

[magnetothemagnificent]

I hate you "Abrahamic", I hate you "Judeo-Christian", I hate you Protestant interpretations being the academic standard, I hate you "BC/AD", I hate you "X amount of years before Chr*st", I hate you academic supercessionism, I hate you ignoring Jewish translations and interpretations, I hate you "The Bible", I hate you making sweeping statements about Judaism even though you have no authority to, I hate you "expert in religion", I hate you casual academic antisemitism.

#Jumblr #if jew know jew know #Christianity #christian hegemony #antisemitism #christian antisemitism #academic antisemitism

[socialist-microwave-laser]

jews: hey so this word is so important that historically it was only ever said once a year on the holiest day of the year and only by one guy. this tradition stopped after the fall of the second temple and everybody has forgotten how to pronounce it, and it's been deemed unpronounceable. now, we use a word to replace it, but you're not allowed to say it outside of prayer or reading torah aloud. any printed material that has it written must be buried in a graveyard like a human, it can't simply be thrown out

christians: *treat the word like a fucking trivia question, have songs that just mispronounce say it on repeat for the entire chorus, make shitty ugly ass earrings with the word written on it, include the word in fun translation exercises like it's just like any other word*

#and christians wonder why i'm so uncomfortable around them #also that one guy before the fall of the second temple that said it did so as a part of a ritual that was deemed so dangerous people would #literally tie a string around him in case he died so they could pull him out without going in after him #anyway my biblical hebrew class starts tomorrow and the textbook was made by a bunch of evangelicals and it has the shem hashem and so many #other words that make me physically uncomfortable to have just sitting in a textbook #jumblr #christian antisemitism #antisemitism tw #judaism #jewish history #jewish culture

[newnitz]

I don't really see people talking about how cultural Christianity is applied to Jews.

In Christianity, Jews are the people who rejected and betrayed Jesus and are punished with statelessness and destitution, whose only redemption is accepting the Messiah and the Son of God. This is the basis of several antisemitic tropes, most prominently deception, religious supercessionism and the Wandering Jew.

In cultural Christianity, these tropes are considered tenants of Judaism rather than Christianity, as Judaism is considered Christianity without Jesus.

Christians see themselves as tortured saints, persecuted for spreading the truth of Jesus and God across the globe. Missionaries who go to non-Christian lands to try and get the people to convert by fearmongering with damnation to Hell see themselves as victims when they're rebuffed and asked to stop.

Cultural Christian non-Christians are usually atheists and adherents of folk religion revivalist movements who have suffered religious abuse, as many sects of Christianity normalize emotional abuse by instilling inherent guilt in the Original Sin and even physical abuse in "Spare the rod; spoil the child". These cultural Christians see the millennia of antisemitism and roll their eyes, to them we're just another sect of delusional religious people with a persecution complex.

To become a Christian all you need to do is accept the Father Son and Holy Spirit, to affirm your beliefs and confess your sins. To become a Jew you are either born a Jew, or you learn the Jewish culture and religion for months on end and must live half a year under the strictest restrictions of the Jewish lifestyle to show commitment. That is the difference between a universal religion and an ethnoreligion.

In a Culturally Christian world there is no room for ethnoreligions, and they do not exist. All religions are about your faith and which God(s) you believe in. So in a Cultural Christian's eyes, a country of Jews is a country that holds one faith supreme above all others and conditions rights with conversion, as that's how Christian countries have historically been.

Christianity's common ground with Jews comes from the Roman Empire appropriating the religion from the Cult of Jesus, and making it more appealing to the masses by introducing Greco-Roman and Germanic folk religion aspects into it. Xmas is Yule but with Jesus, Easter is a fertility holiday but with Jesus and so on. In the eyes of the Cultural Christian, Christianity and Judaism are two once-antagonistic sects of the same religion, no different than Catholics and Protestants.

Cultural Christianity erases and appropriates Judaism and is as inherently hateful of Jews as religious Christianity.

Now, when it comes to the elephant in the room: Islam.

Islam, like Christianity, is a universal religion. You must believe in Allah and accept the prophets, which include both Jesus and Muhammad. It is no more inherently violent than Christianity, though it's no less. In the Christian's eyes, Islam is the competitor, the enemy. The Muslims conquered Christian lands and converted them, and they've fought holy wars against one another throughout the Middle Ages.

To become a Muslim the Cultural Christian doesn't need to unlearn any of the core tenets of their culture. They can simply apply it to Islam.

Which is why many Cultural Christians, damaged by Christianity, are sympathetic to Islam. And since Muslims and Jews are no longer on good terms, they use this sympathy to give themselves a free pass to be antisemitic. Whether Muslims check their converts for bigotry, allow it or are powerless to stop them, that's another issue.

Jews are not diet Christians. We have less in common with you than you have with Muslims. Unlearn Christian cultural appropriation.

And no, I don't care that it's "offensive" to associate you with Christianity due to the religious abuse you endured. You still see the world through a Christian lens.

#cultural christianity #christian supremacy #Christian imperialism #religious supercessionism #wandering jew #wandering Jew trope #christian antisemitism #antisemitism #leftist antisemitism

[athingofvikings]

The guilty verdict for the Jews has already been decided, let the trial begin.

The prosecution will deliver their evidence to the court of public opinion.

The Jews killed Jesus, says the Christian. See, it says here in our holy book, written by people looking to separate themselves from the Jews and grow closer to the Romans. Pilate washes his hands and the Jews take responsibility for killing him.

The Jews are responsible for genociding the White Race, says the White Nationalist. See here, it says so in Mein Kampf and other writings by people who hate the Jews. They plan on wiping us out and replacing White people.

The Jews are responsible for genociding the Palestinians, says the Antizionist. See here, it says so in news published by Hamas, who are innocent freedom fighters who just want to kill all of the Jews everywhere in the world, as is their right. They plan on wiping all of the Palestinians out, which is why they've killed only a tiny fraction in months of intense fighting.

The jury convenes and returns the verdict, which was already decided upon.

The Jews may not speak in their own defense, of course. Who would be interested in hearing the words of the guilty?

#antisemitism #leftist antisemitism #christian antisemitism #right-wing antisemitism #white supremacist antisemitism

[hero-israel]

Let me tell you being a former Christian this shit goes so much deeper than a lot of born Jews realize. The Christian worldview (specifically Calvinist/Puritan) seeping into and pervading all of modern leftism is honestly frightening. But also it's very funny.

They believe that there are Good people and Bad people, and that any mistake or lapse in judgment or instance of not being educated is a Mask Off moment, showing who is a member of the Elect and who is not. If you fuck up, that's not just a fuck up, it's Revealing. You are damned, were always damned, you were just good at hiding it, and now we know the truth and are doubly angry because not only are you evil, you lied about it. The only recourse is to shun you, and if that leads to your death, so be it. Anyone who's seen any micro celebrity get canceled saw this in action.

And the only way you can prove you're a member of the Elect is to operate as if you have nothing to hide. You have to loudly and proudly proclaim your righteousness. If you don't have anything to hide why would you be worried? Privacy is suspicious. You Must Speak on everything they deem important or else you obviously agree with the Bad People. There is no room for discussion or healthy debate. There are no loopholes or subclauses or other points of view to consider. You're with us or against us. If you don't constantly go around saying you're with us, you're probably secretly against us. The only way to convince your neighbors, whom you inherently distrust, that you're one of the Good Ones, is to perform righteousness, parrot righteous words. The only way to redeem yourself is by grandiose acts of self flagellation, perhaps being the right demographic, or by accusing others of Heresy.

The goal is not to bring good into the world, it's to recruit more people into the same thought patterns (that's kind of all Christian denominations though). Because if you can convince your community that you're one of the Elect, that means G-d preselected you for Heaven, and you're golden. No repercussions or consequences baby. The only material benefit for you is that you "get" to proclaim you're going to Heaven and everyone has to agree with you. If anyone doesn't they're probably going to Hell anyway. You're on the right side (of history), so why should you ever self reflect or grow? Why should you question anything? Why should nuance or empathy exist? This is about Right and Wrong. We know where we stand, where do you stand?

Every single aspect of American culture and politics, right and "left" alike, was planted by the pilgrims, and it is so fundamentally antithetical to true Leftist thought. Remember all the actually successful Western Leftist movements were started in Europe (and Israel cough cough)... because they kicked all their fucking psychotic Calvinists out. Those people went to America and that's a big big big reason why we don't have any near as much of a robust Leftist movement as even socially conservative European countries (and Israel cough cough). And what's funny is I still find myself slipping into these thought patterns, which is so not compatible with Jewish philosophy or theology. It's been years and I'm still not done.

It's a hell of a drug to kick, so I definitely don't trust white goysiche college kids who've been antitheists for about 6 months since they left their Republican parents' homes to have any great success in unlearning and unprogramming from this. Which is kind of obvious in that I see them acting just like their conservative Christian parents every day on every social media platform, swap out a gun toting white Jesus with some noble savage idea of Palestine, absolving the West of its sins against the Global South.

It is a cult structured around spiritual isolation, antisocial behavior, and it is inherently against any kind of political movement that centers and celebrates the Community. It is designed to tear communities apart and foster obedience to whatever authority can force itself on them. And this has been going on for almost 500 years, there is nothing we can do about it.

Thank you for the insightful look. Their "purity culture" approach definitely had to come from somewhere.

#Leftist antisemitism #Christian antisemitism

[redditantisemitism]

I’m so fucking tired man

Antisemitism as a term was coined to replace “Judenhass”, or “Jew-hate” in order to make it sound more scientific. It specifically refers to Jews and only Jews.

Also peep the supercesssionist vibes of grouping Christians under “antisemitism”. Yikes.

#antisemitism #tumblr #not on Reddit but still important #christian antisemitism

[the-library-alcove]

Look, if your response to seeing Jewish people talking about Christian antisemitism is that those responsible are "not True Christians", but you're silent in the face of the bigoted actions of those same Christians, then it is blatantly obvious that it's not their hatreds and cruelty that offends you: it is the speech of their victims.

Or in other words...

Don't tell us that they're Not True Christians. Tell them. Tell them that you cannot accept their actions and will work against them.

Until you can do that, your silence towards them compared with your words against us says so very much.

#antisemitism #christianity #Christian antisemitism

[fromchaostocosmos]

I'm very frustrated with how the various youtubers and streamers talk about Ben Shapiro.

Because they do not understand or have the proper context when talking about him and everything he represents.

They also often go into antisemitic territory when mocking him, while it is unintentional and something they may not not even know they are doing, they are doing it none the less.

When they mock his voice or call him Shabibo that is actually antisemitic territory.

Due to a history of Jewish people having our names stripped from us and voices and names mocked. Now I too find his voice to be personally annoying, but I won't mock it because of said history.

It is not about the curtsy that Ben Shapiro deserves or doesn't deserve, but rather about deciding when it is okay to employ antisemitism against a Jewish person.

The answer is never.

The overwhelming majority of these commentators are not Jewish and the few that are Jewish don't seem to know any of the important details that make what Ben Shapiro says so dangerous for all Jews and such a false representation.

See what is not presented in discussions about him is that Ben Shapiro is not there to pull in a Jewish audience he is there as a token Jew to help further pull in an christian audience.

That is what makes it all so very insidious in nature. And sadly some Jewish people get fooled by this too because they do not look beyond the front facing facade he wears like costume, but they do not actually listen the words he says.

Ben Shapiro harps about a 'war on christmas' which no Jewish person would seriously do or care for. Especially any Ashkenazi Jews with our very long long history of being murdered in mass on xmas. Christmas eve is became seen a spiritually impure night that it would be called Nittle Nacht in Yiddish and Jewish people would purposefully not study Torah that night.

American Jews, like many others who belong to non-christian religious and cultural groups, have to deal with living a majority Christian country and country that culturally Christian and only makes concession for Christianity.

Has Ben Shapiro ever talked about that or the actual fights to get time off for our Holidays? No because that doesn't fit the narrative. But business having employees switch from 'merry christmas' to 'happy holidays' most certainly does.

Ben Shapiro has explicitly stated that he believes that conception is when life begins which is something to no in keeping with any Jewish held belief anywhere.

We hold life begins at first breath, the mother comes first (I wrote mother because that is wording used in the various writings, but really it would be the pregnant individual comes first), and that it doesn't just need to physical health on the line it can also be one's mental health at stake in order to need an abortion

Ben Shapiro talks about Judeo-Christan values, which a bullshit term that was created after the Holocaust to make it seem like Christian Antisemitism played no role in what happened and that the Church was not a guilty party. It is also a term that essentially holds Jewish people hostage.

He uses this term and talks about these shared values. So I have to ask what values?

Is respecting the elderly, caring for the sick, kindness to others, tending to the poor, and such? Because those are universal values and can be found in pretty much every culture and religion.

What about original sin? Heaven and Hell? Can someone be the literal child of G-d? Does G-d have literal hands, a actual face? What is the gender of G-d?

Just some questions to start with since you know we clearly have the same values and stuff.

Because Judaism would say: No such thing as original sin and in fact Hebrew doesn't have a word for sin we have words that mean things that wrongly translated in English as sin, but no, word for sin. We hold all people are born blank we go through and have experiences and make choices and those choices speak to who we are.

We believe in This World and The World to Come and the spiritual washing machine so to speak, but no a big nope to heaven and hell. No to Satan too. There is the HaSatan which means prosecutor who is as the name means in the Ultimate Court.

When we say "we are the children of G-d" it is poetic flourish and is metaphorical not literal no one can be the literal hild of G-d.

Same way we anthropomorphize G-d so that we have an easier time contextualizing G-d because otherwise it can be hard to wrap your mind around.

G-d is both genderfull and genderless at the same time. It depends on what you are talking about, in what context, and what aspect of G-d of you using. For example the Voice G-d and Presence of G-d are both in the feminine in Hebrew.

These have just been a tiny amount of examples from a vast vast array them.

My point is that if all these people are going to talk about Ben Shapiro especially ones with large followings please bring on someone who is actually knowledge and qualified to talk about this so the facts can properly be presented and explained.

Like I on occasion will listen to Leftovers podcast in background it hosted by Ethan from H3H and Hassan Piker and in the most recent episode that I was listening, which I had to stop because I was getting to annoyed by, they where talking about Ben Shapiro.

It was very frustrating for me. I get that Hassan might be very politically involved and knowledge about stuff, don't really know I don't watch him, but I was thinking the whole time that this is not an area you know.

You are talking about Jewish stuff and things related Jewish views points and you have no clue what you are talking about. You are talking about a religion and culture you just don't know anything about and are trying to debunk Ben Shapiro.

It will not work because you don't have necessary information and understanding to do so.

And you are missing the biggest point of it all which is again Ben is there as a draw for Christians. Because for these kinds of Christians having a Jew give a stamp of approval gives it some kind veneer of legitimacy.

It validates them and allows them to not have to feel guilty for crimes against Jewish people that they are party too.

This doesn't mean they like Jews or want us around or interested in our problems or helping us.

It is all about them in the same way they have Candace Owens tell them all the thing they want to hear so they never have to self-examine or reflect on anything and can assuage their white-guilt and keep of being horrific anti-Black.

They don't care about Black people or Black issues because they listen to a Black woman talk.

It is all for self-serving interests that they have been Ben and Candace there. While many seem to get that point (if you didn't get it before well get it now) in regards to Candace Owens and the purpose of her employment they miss that very important detail when comes to Ben Shapiro.

#ben shapiro #antisemitism #jumblr #christian antisemitism #evangelical antisemitism #protestant antisemitism #an essay of a post

[fromgoy2joy]

My therapist - your parents don’t know the real Jesus, who overturned the tables of the merchants in the temple-

Me- ohh uh , Jewish people interpret that as him being awful, because you kind of needed to go get food after a long day of travel and then sacrifices for your temple visit.

My therapist - how could Jesus be disrespectful in the temple? He was Jewish!?

Me- well Jewish people can be assholes too..

#fromgoy2joy thoughts #jumblr #jewish convert #jewish #jewish tumblr #jewblr #jewish conversion #tw antisemtism #antisemitism #christian antisemitism

[germiyahu]

One of the funnier things about Jesus is that he's often described as a "radical" and my classics professor literally said "it doesn't make sense for the Romans to execute him if he wasn't covertly calling for an overthrow of the government." I've spent most of my adult life hearing that Jesus was preaching zany dangerous world-upending ideas and he was just too badass and ~actually leftist the whole time~ to be left alive.

However, he was preaching "pray for your enemies, even if they persecute you," "if a Roman strikes you, turn your cheek and offer the other," "if a Roman soldier forces you to carry his equipment, offer to carry it an extra mile," "do not pray in public like those hypocritical Pharisees, pray in private God likes that better," "who are you to judge the Romans' specks in their eyes, you're actually worse if you think about it," "guys Caesar is the legitimate government of the Empire I think you should show the proper respect just pay your taxes," "hey I know I'm being executed but like let's take a moment to consider that the Roman soldiers feel bad about it, forgive them they know not what they do."

This is bootlicking shitlib cuckery if I've ever seen it. Jesus' philosophy for how Judea and its culture was going to survive Hellenization/Romanization was... "Be polite. Don't cause a scene. Keep your head down. Why be a rabble-rouser and make trouble for the rest of us? You're giving us a bad name. Romans are people too!"

He had some cool ideas like "sex workers deserve dignity," but I don't think he's actually the "role model," and "actually really wise Rabbi," that a lot of non Jews try to tell Jews he is (aka, how they should view him even if they don't think he's the son of God). And to be fair, a lot of his ideas were already held by other Pharisees/early Rabbis. Certainly Maimonides et al. would go on to independently come to some similar conclusions re: forgiveness and whatnot.

But Jesus was not a radical. Most scholars agree he was a member of the Hillel school of the Pharisee "political party." He was definitely not a Zealot. The Romans didn't execute him because he was calling for an overthrow of the government. They executed him because he was becoming too popular, and people were calling him Moshiach, which was an implicit threat to Roman supremacy. But Jesus himself was not telling people to firebomb their local valmartus.

I suspect if Jesus had been alive to see the Bar Kochba revolt, he would've "strongly condemned the violent actions of the rebels," even if he "sympathized with their pain." He was actively preaching, if not assimilationism, then meek submission. Martyrdom. If you suffer in silent dignity then your just reward will come. And I'm not claiming he was a race traitor or anything, this was an individual man's response to the ongoing trauma of his homeland being subjugated and exploited. These were his ideas about what to do about it.

But in essence, Jesus was the original Good Jew, and the Romans still murdered him. He spent all of his time as a public figure arguing that they should be accepted and loved and that their oppression of the Jews should be tolerated, and that one day the Romans would simply lose interest in being colonizers and the Jews would be free by being patient and understanding and not rocking the boat too much. And the Romans killed him anyway. Being a Good Jew will never save you.

#odds are the people who insist that he was Palestinian probably won't try to advocate real Palestinians adhere to his philosophy lol #I have many ideas about what Nietzsche thought about Christianity too lol #christian antisemitism

[magnetothemagnificent]

Jewish kids have to constantly hear "You killed Jesus", "You're going to hell", and "Hitler should've got you too" from their Christian peers. Jewish kids have to get the "antisemitism talk" before they even learn how to spell. Jewish kids have to pass through layers of security just to study in a Jewish school safely, and even then that security is sometimes breached. Jewish kids learn when it's unsafe to be visibly Jewish, how to quickly shove their kippah in their pocket or cover their Magen David necklace. Jewish kids learn about Nazis not in a middle school history lesson but when they're far younger, just walking to synagogue on Shabbat with their family when a neo-Nazi passes by them, threatening violence and throwing the Nazi salute.

All this is considered normal.

But when a Jewish kid, accidentally or purposefully, tells a Christian kid that Santa isn't real.......... that's what gets everyone so horrified and upset.

#jumblr #antisemitism #christian antisemitism

[socialist-microwave-laser]

it's very frustrating that most of the super accessible resources on learning hebrew are made by and for christians who want to learn this mystical language that will unlock all the secrets to their religion, completely ignoring that (yes, even biblical) hebrew is a language that is still used today and it is very much attached to still living(!!!) cultures and people who aren't here to be your fetish, your mystical characters, or your metaphors. jews are actual fucking human beings and the way some christians treat hebrew is like they fucking forgot that little fun fact

#christian antisemitism #jumblr #hebrew language #biblical hebrew

[lt-cmdr-titties]

it is the year of our fucking lord 5784 and y'all are STILL POSTING JIM AND SPOCK IN CHRISTMAS SWEATERS?????

#antisemitism #fandom antisemitism #christian antisemitism #james t kirk #spock cha'sarek #spirk #star trek tos #star trek aos

[batboyblog]

the goyim are goyiming again.

#antisemitism #Christians #judaism #Jumblr #jesus christ #christian antisemitism #the goyim are wilding out again #been a minute since I got called a Christ killer

[hero-israel]

I keep hearing about Irish stances on all this, often in the key of "oppressed people everywhere recognize each other :)))))," in large part b/c I live in super-Irish Boston but also online, b/c -- to be salty -- I think a lot of white Irish-American people cling to Irish history so they feel less like white oppressors. Every day I grow a little more surprised at how fucking shameless it all is. It never occurred to me, somehow, that the Irish people around here don't know that they've been treating us like fucking garbage for decades, that Irish anti-semitism has defined so many of our childhoods, that my dad STILL tells me to wear an Italian horn necklace in Southie so when people look at me, they'll think I'm an Italian instead of Jew. I mean, they *know*, I guess -- but it's just really something to see all my Irish-American friends who care soooo muchhhh about examining all their biases cheerfully be like, "ofc we stand with palestine and resistance worldwide :))))" Like yeah, no shit, Seamus? The Irish don't like those filthy, greedy Christ-killers? Boy, that sure comes as a shock! Not like this could be at all connected to one of the deepest and more entrenched bigotries you guys have only barely begun to cover up in the last couple of decades! Gee!

I can't speak about Irish-Americans, but can very confidently say that Ireland's government and society wrt Jews and Israel is incurably poisoned by primordial Catholic antisemitism. Ireland noticed that sex abuse and orphan dungeons were bad because the victims were also Catholic, but the same social structures and teachings inspiring constant judgment and death-wishing of Jews were left in place unquestioned and unchanged. Ireland was notoriously the only country to send condolences to Germany when Hitler died - even Axis Japan didn't do that! The IRA had strong Nazi sympathies, because calling Derry "Londonderry" was just that much worse than Babi Yar don't you know. Ironic that the colonized became the colonizers - the ultimate living embodiment of white Christian Europeans warping their entire society around interfering with a Middle Eastern conflict because they look and say HURP YOUR ENEMY IS JUST LIKE MINE YOURE JUST LIKE ME DURP ESPECIALLY I LIKE THE ME PART ME ME ME MEEEEE

#Ireland #European antisemitism #Christian antisemitism

[redditantisemitism]

Let’s look at this a little closer.

First there’s the idea that Jews don’t “let” people read our books, or are hiding something from the world at large. This is entirely untrue. Sefaria is a great place to start if you want to read some Jewish texts. It’s free and online, no hiding. This idea plays into lots of conspiracy theories, and has “secret cabal” flavor.

Then there’s the mention of Isaiah 53, which notoriously refers to a “suffering servant”. The Jewish interpretation of this is that this “servant” represents the Jewish people (again sefaria is right there if you want to explore commentary on the verses), while Christian interpretation makes it refer to Jesus, in yet another act of supercessionism and putting Jesus where he simply isn’t.

The idea that a. Jews don’t teach this verse, and b. That we are knowingly hiding the presence of Jesus in our texts is doubly false, not to mention cartoonishly silly.

This idea that Jews intentionally undermine Christianity, and (in their view) by extension goodness, is once again more antisemitic conspiracy theory, placing Jews in league with the devil. It’s an old concept- “the Jews know the truth, they just willfully suppress it!”

More reading from Jews for Judaism

#antisemitism #christian antisemitism #religious antisemitism #conspiracy theories #reddit #queue