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transexualpirate · 5 months
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they don't talk about it much because it's something (like most things between them) that goes mostly unsaid most of the time, but tony's drinking is a core factor of steve and tony's relationship.
tony says it himself, when he's reminded that steve's dad was an alcoholic, and says it makes sense, a lot makes sense now - and steve denies it, because of course he does. "don't try make this personal." but it's always been personal, steven.
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it's always been personal. to the moment where he tracked tony to some shitty motel and found him drinking himself to oblivion, desperately attempted to talk him out of it, but failed, it was always personal. from the moment he looked at tony and saw joseph rogers, it's always been personal.
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"what you say is not news to me." he turns around as tony cries. "my father -- rest his soul --" he says it because he has to, because it's what ma would have wanted, because he's not angry, of course he's not, he's not angry. "was an alcoholic. we tried to help him, but a man has to want to be helped."
steve's skin is probably crawling with the possibility tony pointed out - beat him up? he'd never beat him up. he'd never do something like what (what a self fulfilling prophecy), and he leaves because he knows he cannot help here. just like joseph rogers, tony stark is ill and needs the sort of help that steve cannot offer. once again, steve is simply not enough.
he wasn't enough to fix his father, he wasn't enough to protect his mother, he wasn't enough to save bucky, and now he's not enough to save tony. he's just not enough. and now he just can't help but looking at tony and seeing the violence, the pain he was subjected to over some alcohol and repressed anger.
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tony's not his father, of course. he knows that. of course he knows that. but it's always been so personal, hasn't it? so much of it was about them. the spark that caused the explosion. tony brings the friction, steve brings the inflammable. tony brings the alcohol, steve brings the repressed anger. and he's just not good enough to stop it.
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he's just not enough.
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graceloveswolves · 1 year
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Steve & Bucky both being in love with you would include…
- Bucky would be more of the flirty outgoing type
- while Steve would be the more quiet and sincere type
- Bucky liked you first, but Steve was the first to admit he liked you
- Bucky wouldn’t say anything when Steve told him he liked you
- only that there were hundreds of other girls and that it was just a crush
- hoping Steve would move on so he could make his move with you
- Steve never moved on unfortunately for Bucky
- I mean you were a really attractive person with a beautiful personality, Bucky didn’t blame him
- Bucky finding out more about you through conversations with you
- but Steve finding out more about you by observing from afar and asking other people about you
- Steve getting low key pressed when he finds out Bucky likes you
- claiming Bucky always got the girls and can practically get any girl he wants so why not let him have the one girl he likes
- Bucky bringing up how the playing field was now leveled with him being the Star Spangled man with a plan
- Bucky feeling guilty and selfish but bidding Steve good luck and may the best man win your heart
- Steve letting you hold his shield & offering to start teaching you how to throw it
- Bucky letting you try to do pull ups off his arm insisting he was strong enough
- Bucky offering to teach you how to dance and inspiring you’d be a great dancer
- Both Steve & Bucky tell the other lies about you in order to make the other look stupid
- like for instance, Steve told Bucky you loved lilies
- which in fact you were allergic and started sneezing when bucky gifted them to you
- this ended up back firing on Steve because you started laughing so hard with him and it became an ongoing joke between you and Bucky
- you eventually caught on about both the boys liking you and you decided you were going to be Switzerland and choose the one that stays the longest
- it was very hard considering they were both adamant about their love for you
- Bucky would tell embarrassing stories about Steve about getting beat up and him swooping in, being his savior
- Steve’s version was way different saying he always had them on the ropes and always got back up on his own and kept fighting on alley to the next
- Bucky always knew how to get your attention and connect with you while subtly give you compliments which leave you wanting more
- but Steve always gave you complex compliments and raised you on a silver platter making you seem like the only girl in the world
- overall, it was ultimately up to you as to who had your heart ❤️
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dirigibleplumbing · 1 month
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if you're like me, sometimes you need a high-quality transparent PNG of the "what are you waiting for, Steve? finish it" speech bubble in different orientations.
enjoy!
these are, of course, from Civil War (2006) #7.
panel(s) below the cut, including one with some cutout bits
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unearthlydust · 13 days
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SEBASTIAN STAN as BUCKY BARNES CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR (2016)
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juiche · 9 months
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I wanted to draw the winter soldier for years but never dared to, I thought I’d definitely mess it up. Late to the party as always, but I finally dared to do it 😊
This one is based on a photo that Sebastian Stan took by chance prior to the Civil War film, having no idea what’s about to come :> I thought it’s wonderfully angsty 😌💅
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sersi · 2 months
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Captain America: Civil War (2016) dir. Anthony and Joe Russo The Marvels (2023) dir. Nia DaCosta
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t-lostinworlds · 10 months
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SPOT THE DIFFERENCE: BUCKY BARNES vs GRUMPY CAT | **Spoiler Alert: You Can’t
+ BONUS
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notafunkiller · 4 months
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Bucky Barnes is the best super soldier
How it was subtly emphasized in The Falcon and The Winter Soldier:
He always holds back
With the Flag Smashers and even with John Walker. We could see the difference in the last 3 episodes. Sebastian Stan did an incredible job making it clear in a subtle way.
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I want to mention that famous "Stay there" scene, and how it was visible Bucky was not punching as hard as he can in the fight with John.)
This is the thing about Bucky, he isn't after the kill, he just does his part. He doesn't try to show off his skills or that he is a good guy. He doesn't try to play the victim role, either. In the scene where Zemo fake-activates the Winter Soldier in Madripoor, he just makes a point. He's obviously not even trying hard.
If he wanted those in the club dead, they would be. But his self control was wow. Sebastian acted so well, his exes said everything.
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*And to be honest, even when he was TWS, he could have killed everyone, but he didn't. He could have killed all of the Avengers in Civil War is they were his mission, but they weren't. This is how Natasha survived when she met him, too. It depended on what kind of mission he had (if he wasn't allowed to be seen, then the witnesses would die too, but otherwise? He didn't bother).
2. His skills
People tend to forget how smart and good at making strategies Bucky is. He's been fighting (even though he hates fighting and never wanted to be in the army) for years before he was even captured by Hydra. And this is the reason why government still want him, after all. They can use his strategies as a leader (*cough* Thunderbolts *cough*).
In the last episodes of TFATWS, we could see how he outsmarted everyone. Karli was so terrified of him.
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3. Karli Morgenthau
And talking about Karli, the phone call was interesting:
She asked him if he's not tired of fighting for the wrong side, and then told him she's fighting for something bigger than herself.
"And with all the bodies you've collected, have you ever been able to say the same?"
The first thing I wanna point out is how everyone talks about the deaths Bucky caused when he was controlled by Hydra, but everyone ignores the fact that all the Avengers killed far more, but since we consider them the good side, we just don't care.
Clint, Tony, Steve, Wanda etc. They all cause(d) far more deaths than "two dozen" (known assassinations - to quote Natasha), and neither was controlled. The double standards are something else, especially for Clint. (One of the reasons why Tony was on the other side in CW was because of his guilt, after all.)
The second point is how Bucky's answer says a lot more than we might realize at first:
"You don't think I ever fought for something bigger than myself? That's all I ever tried to do, and I failed twice."
Even as TWS, Bucky had to be convinced he is on the right side, that what they do is to save the world, to give "the world the freedom it deserves".
Even brainwashed and put to sleep all the time, he had to be lied to. Bucky as TWS was a victim too. He is not a victim only because he didn't have memories or control, but also because they lied to him and used him as a toy. That milk scene is so loud. (And I am gonna talk about it in a different post). He had no rights, no choices. He was used to being tortured.
[And I wish they explored it more. We deserved and deserve a WS film - maybe with him in Romania getting back his memories, writing in his journal etc.]
"You think your cause justifies all this death, but in the end, the nightmares won't go away. You're gonna remember all the ones you killed. Trust me. Don't do this. Don't go down this path."
Despite being on opposite sides, Bucky still said this to Karli, trying to help her, to make her see the big picture, sharing how he felt and feels.
He is on "the right side". He is a hero, and Bucky being thanked by that man for saving everyone's life was touching.
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4. Baron Zemo
You can see how smart, strong, and rational Bucky is when he decides to break Zemo out of jail (his plan was amazing too), risking so much (his relationship with Wakanda people and his own freedom) to get his help for the mess. He puts the cause above his own (huge) trauma. And this makes that moment in Madripoor even more disgusting (he is treated as an object, as a toy):
Zemo: Tell us what you know about the super-soldier serum. And I give you him, along with the code words to control him, of course. He will do anything you want.
The way he keeps his composure, reacts and manages the situation... absolutely incredible!
This conversation also says a lot:
Zemo: The desire to become a superhuman cannot be separated from supremacist ideals. Anyone with that serum is inherently on that path.
Bucky: Maybe you're wrong, Zemo. The serum never corrupted Steve.
Zemo: Touché. But there has never been another Steve Rogers, has there?
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Bucky positions himself below Steve, who's considered a good hero, a good person... like no other. But Steve never had to go through what Bucky did: from being kidnapped like that, to being tested on, to falling off the train, to being tortured, and used, and brainwashed for decades, and put to sleep when he was not needed and having n "keepers".
Also, interesting how all Steve wanted was to fight (for a good cause, but still)... and fighting still means violence, meanwhile Bucky never wanted to fight, not even before becoming TWS, in the army (and yet he is still great at fighting. And he is deadly, even when he holds back.). All he wanted was peace.
Despite not getting the "perfect serum", despite being brainwashed, put to sleep, and forced to fight for decades, he is still himself. He never gave in to the dark side for real. He fought in his own way. The first thing he did when he woke up was to choke the Hydra guy with a whole new arm!
Bucky is so underrated: from his intelligence and fighting skills, to how human he is. Being flawed, keeping his sassiness and charm from the 40s, but getting more mature and carrying his past on his shoulders... he's so relatable and real. And every day, he shows Zemo he is wrong.
The show he makes in his final scene with Zemo is absolutely fantastic. He doesn't just prove the point he isn't defined by the serum and Hydra (AND not even by Steve, thanks to Sam. His speech made him realize the important thing about himself: that he decides who he is, not others - even those who know him before becoming TWS- "And this might be a surprise, but it doesn't matter what Steve thought. You gotta stop looking to other people to tell you who you are." parallel to "Steve believed in you. He trusted you. He gave you that shield for a reason. That shield, that is… that is everything he stood for. That is his legacy. He gave you that shield, and you threw it away like it was nothing. [...] So maybe he was wrong about you. And if he was wrong about you, then he was wrong about me."), but also that he is superior.
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When Zemo tells him that he decided to let him alive (probably so he can kill Karli) and basically calls him a killing machine: "programmed to kill", Bucky plays the role, lets Zemo talk him into killing Karli, and then Bucky watches him waiting for his own death.
[Also, Bucky's line: Imagine my relief is hilarious.]
The acting was incredible: the shock on Zemo's face and the amusement and somehow relief on Bucky's after he pulls the trigger and lets the bullets fall... He proved him he's THE standard of the super soldier. Because despite everything he went through, he is the best.
Zemo telling him to cross his name off felt like a fresh start (+ telling Nakajima the truth).
5. John Walker
John, on the other hand, is lucky Bucky is an understanding person. He gets what is like... the pressure, the environment, the loss, and even tries to help.
Bucky: Don't go down that road. Believe me, it doesn't end well.
John: I'm not like you!
Of course he is not like Bucky, because Bucky has control. He is not killing to get revenge in a cynical way.
"That serum doesn't exactly have a great track record."
John kept judging Bucky every time they spoke, somehow placing himself above this "broken" man.
"This is all really easy for you, isn't it? All that serum runnin' through your veins. Barnes, your partner needs backup in there. Do you really want his blood on your hands?"
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This is so wrong on every single level, especially because Bucky didn't choose to take the serum, and he always had his friends' back. He's loyal and ready to sacrifice himself.
The "funny" part about this is John ending up taking the last super soldier serum vial. All the judgement, the disgust, the patronizing tone, just to do that. Plus, of course, to kill someone with the shield.
(John proves Zemo's point about super soldiers, and Bucky does the opposite.)
And what is it easy for Bucky anyway?
He's under government conditions (so CACW coded), he has a vibranium arm that I bet the government would try to take after he dies (HOPEFULLY WHEN HE'S 200 YEARS OLD IN HIS BED, as Sebastian wants too) if he isn't in Wakanda, he is haunted by nightmares (which also can mean he is still Hydra's TWS in another universe as we found out from Strange), and he has to learn how to live for real. He's smart, charismatic, has values and principles, and he's incredible.
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We need to see his version of TWS going after everyone Hydra helped. TWS is him, a part of him, and doing that on his terms, having control over it would help him heal.
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soliloquent-stark · 6 months
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besides the well-known fact that tony stark's arc reactor literally powered his heart and symbolised his second chance at life, it's been not just alluded to but clearly stated by marvel from the very first iron man film that it represents his heart:
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this point is made very clear again when it's used to portray his death:
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of course they did this; they're such obvious metaphors that are easy to rely on for beautiful visual storytelling. they undoubtedly were aware of the potential for these scenes and carefully considered them since the beginning.
but you don't really get to use each of these moments more than once if you want them to matter, so they had to choose which one of tony's stories needed to be told through carefully picked parallels.
and who did they use them on?
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yup, that's right. steve rogers. steve, who literally ends their painful fight by breaking his heart.
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steve, whom tony literally hands his heart and says "here, take this" while he's devastated, disappointed, and at one of the lowest moments of his entire life.
so, platonic, romantic, alterous — the intricacies of his feelings don't even matter. they're only for tony to know.
but what we as an audience know, what we were explicitly told by marvel, is that the feelings tony had for steve were so strong that they were the equivalent of getting his heart actually shattered into pieces, and being reduced to offering your desperate, mourning heart on a platter as a way of saying "take it all, there's nothing left of me that you don't own now".
these were not accidents. we were meant to understand how profound his feelings were. so many things spiraled out of their falling out — the entire universe's faith was at stake as a result. tony was not indifferent to him. his problem was that he felt too much.
tony's achille's heel was always steve rogers, and that will forever be the backbone of the marvel universe.
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avengerscompound · 15 days
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Sebastian Stan as Bucky Barnes My favorite look in each show
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sergeantbarnessdoll · 7 months
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transexualpirate · 5 months
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oh these old men are soooo fucked up in the head. and so gay for each other. look at them go. mutually assured destruction indeed
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flordeamatista · 1 month
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Bucky Barnes ♡ Sebastian Stan
Captain America: Civil War ♡ (2016)
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virgo-opinions · 1 month
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no like you don’t understand…. I LOVE HIM
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unearthlydust · 1 month
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SEBASTIAN STAN as BUCKY BARNES CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR (2016)
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mostlystuckony · 9 months
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Had a thought
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