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"We need more mental health acceptance and awareness!" Y'all still call ppl with cluster b disorders evil 💀
"We need more weird people!" Y'all COMBUST when someone is xenic 💀
"Healthy coping mechanisms are important!" When someone age regresses, you call them creepy 😭
"More people need to be proud of who they are!" When you see a furry, you cry 😭
(U should totes follow me if ur a supporter of these so I can b on the good side of tumblr XD /nf!)
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neuroticboyfriend · 9 months
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a lot of the time, abusers are just regular people. abuse is something we're all capable of - it's a pattern of harmful behavior in which there's power imbalance. we all hold various privileges, connections, and knowledge that can be turned into the power to abuse others. we can all exert our will, thoughts, feelings, etc. onto others in a way that hurts them and takes power away from them.
abusive people have done something horrible and inexcusable, yet they aren't... inherently special. they're people, capable of choosing between right and wrong, capable of change, just as much as others are. i say this in part because i think a lot of people have this lofty idea of abusers that leads them to think they couldn't possibly be a victim of abuse. but abuse can be incredibly mundane - and this also means we all have to watch out for abusive behaviors in ourselves.
abuse isn't just something Obviously Bad People (TM) are capable of... and abuse isn't caused by mental illness, substance use/addiction, gender, etc. etc., even if these things impact what happens. idk. there's no real end point to this post. i just wish people didn't mystify abuse, and realized how (deeply unfortunately) normal and subtle it can be... and often is.
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lyingnarc · 25 days
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dear npd people with manipulative tendencies that theyre working on, i love you
dear npd people with manipulative tendencies that they can't work on, i love you
dear npd people with intrusive thoughts, i love you
dear npd people with a billion different blogs for all the possible attention, i love you
dear npd people with low or no empathy who dont try to mask it, i love you
dear npd people with low or no empathy who DO try to mask it, i love you
dear npd people who have been told they're wrong their whole lives, i love you
dear npd people, i love you
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starfallensyndicate · 1 month
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It's funny how our narcissism influences how we love.
We see someone extraordinary and unique in a person we love. Someone who is finally on our level. Someone we are willing to show what perfect love means — and that they can experience it with us. We want to show them all the wonders of the world, give them a place beside us, with their own throne, beside ours. In the grandiose fantasies, we make room for them and especially for them.
It's not a manipulative, cold-blooded attempt at controlling someone when we do everything to make the person we fell for feel special — because we actually view this person as special. Why else would we want them around us.
Like, the need for association with extraordinary people and fantasies of ideal love are literally in the criteria, so what should anyone expect here?
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violentviolette · 1 year
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i think a lot of people would benefit from internalizing the reality that just because u had a negative emotion doesnt always mean someone else did something wrong
we can be hurt without someone else being to blame for being the epicenter of that hurt. just because something makes us upset or hurts us, doesnt mean the other person made a mistake or should have done something differently or needs to apologize
negative emotions are an inevitable part of life and sometimes they were always going to happen no matter what because of the situation and there was no way to avoid them and thats okay. sometimes there's nothing to be done to fix a negative emotion or prevent it from happening. sometimes people we love and care about are going to hurt us and thats okay. its a part of being human. we will inevitably do the same to them. but just because we were hurt doesnt mean they did something wrong.
and we can take the time and space to be upset about that privately without involving them in our emotions at all. because even when our emotions are triggered by someone else, that doesnt mean they have to answer for them
the world is not divided into victims and perpetrators and sometimes people hurt us when they do the right thing. sometimes everyone can do everything right and we can still get hurt and be upset. that doesnt make them bad people and it doesnt give us the right to blame them for it or hold them responsible
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npdvelvette · 1 month
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egotypicals will get upset pwnpd often have superiority complexes, but will go around talking about us as if we’re subhuman monsters, implying they see us as below them and are superior? ok girl
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chaos-in-one · 1 year
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Me looking at myself after sobbing my eyes out: Wow I’m such a hot mess hi there beautiful
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fantasy-store · 2 months
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Custer B Flags remade
[cluster b flags remade]
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post one(link) - cluster a(link) - cluster c(link)
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Antisocial personality disorder
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Borderline personality disorder
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Histrionic personality disorder
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Narcissistic personality disorder
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flags are exclusive to those with the disorders
apologies for the lack of ids due to a lack of spoons
radqueers, transx/id do not touch my flags thanks
tagging: @delightfulweepingwillows, @npd-archive, @bpdarchive, @docsfallfromgrace, @acetrappolaswife, @clusterrune, @archival-arrival, @decayednightmaremogai
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rotting-brains · 9 months
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i way too often see people show "support" towards narcissists by saying "my friend has npd and theyre one of the sweetest people ever!" okay? that is not the kind of support we need. we need you to separate our personality from our disorder, because if your support ends the second you meet a shithead who has npd then you're just a shithead yourself.
your friend being nice has nothing to do with their npd. your abuser being an awful person has nothing to do with their npd.
you know what does have to do with their npd? what they really need your support for?
the delusions, the crippling self doubt AND crippling self love, black and white thinking, splitting, substance abuse, poor sense of self.
we get little to no support from mental health professionals, we're not believed, we're treated like disgusting people simply because of our disorder, as if we chose to have it.
i had a renowned neurologist call me, 14 at the time, an asshole and told me i have uncontrollable anger issues. after months of opening up about my parents' abuse she blamed it on me, told me i was violent, that my parents deserved better, and that i needed to get my issues under control on my own.
when i told a friend, i was asked if i thought they were a narcissist. when i told a partner, i had their view of me shift before my eyes.
how will you show us support when professionals wont, and the only time you support narcissists is when they're nice to you.
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antisocialcultureis · 15 days
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aspd culture is wanting to find somone bad then harass them
Aspd culture is!
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aspd-culture · 1 year
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But aspd-culture, what "causes" ASPD?
Well, that's hard to say as it is commonly a mix of nature and nurture, and we can't say for sure "this set of things will cause ASPD". I can, however, explain some serious risk factors that, if you relate to them and have this disorder, may have been a part of why you developed it.
TW for heavy topics, as you might have guessed.
Just a heads up that, if you have the disorder, this one is gonna be a rough read. A lot of things that you were told throughout your childhood should be "normal" and maybe that you even thought were helping you are gonna pop up here as things that heavily increase the chances of ASPD, and we're not just talking about abuse and neglect, though of course that is the first one I'm gonna get into because it's the most obvious and well-known risk factor. Do expect some other information you might not have been ready to hear, though.
So the first one, as I said, is maltreatment as a child. This can include many kinds of abuse, including verbal, emotional, physical, sexual, etc. There are some reasons to believe that sexual abuse in particular, especially long-term sexual abuse, significantly increases the chance of developing ASPD.
The next is neglect, which also comes with a significant risk of developing ASPD, especially if the neglect is related to both the emotional and physical needs of a child. If the child experiences neglect in regards to needs such as food, hygiene, shelter, medical care, etc, but does not experience emotional neglect, the risk of developing ASPD appears to be somewhat less than if the child experiences both.
Maltreatment and neglect before the age of 18 months is especially significant when it comes to risk of developing ASPD. Not greeting an infant, not properly showing emotion and "appropriate affect" to an infant, and in particular a lack of attachment from their mother (either due to her literally being absent or just emotionally absent and disconnected) during the first 18 months of life are less commonly thought of forms of neglect that seriously affect secure attachment and increase the risk of ASPD.
The third and last of the "expected" answers to this question is witnessing intimate partner violence during childhood, especially regularly or across multiple partners. This shows the child two things: one is a fear of the aggressor as well a need to tiptoe around someone who should be a secure caregiver to avoid danger, and the second is a disbelief that the victim of the violence is able to protect them from danger, either because they appear weak (children are supposed to believe until a surprising age that their parents are superhero levels of strong and unable to be intimidated or weakened) in the eyes of the child, or because the child does not want to bother them with their issues when they already have their own abuse to deal with. This is especially true in cases where the child successfully controls the violence where the adult cannot (think those kids who use themselves as human shields because the abuser doesn't dare touch the child for various reasons), as it makes them feel they are responsible for protecting both themself and their caregiver, which disrupts normal attachment.
Here's where we get to the less obvious, more specific stuff that can lead to ASPD. There are multiple studies showing that an excess of television (I know, but hear me out bc this isn't about violence on tv), specifically when it is being used as a stand-in parent, significantly increases risk of developing ASPD even when other factors are controlled. As someone with ASPD, I can 100% see how this is valid. I used television to try and understand what normal people were like, and in turn, I experience a weird type of affective "empathy" when shown emotions in the over-acted way that they do on sitcoms, even though I do not experience that empathy when shown normally expressed emotions either on tv or in real life.
It also makes sense to me because generally when TV becomes a stand-in parent, the child is watching other children be cared for in ways that they are not in real life. The child may then be led to believe (as I was) that caring about other people is something made up for TV, since that's the only time they see it. Once the brain develops the understanding of fantasy vs reality, if TV is the only time that a child sees secure attachment styles, loving and attentive caregivers, etc, the brain may falsely place that in the fantasy category. That can lead to the thought processes and attachment issues that are typical of pwASPD, including feeling as though only they can be trusted to look out for themselves, that irl relationships are supposed to be transactional vs emotional, etc. So if you, like I did, attempted to watch sitcoms and such like Full House, Boy Meets World, etc. as a way of understanding what a normal family is supposed to be like or to understand how people are supposed to interact with each other, it is very possible that that was a contributing factor to the development of your ASPD.
Another somewhat surprising one: show of hands on how many pwASPD grew up hearing "it's just a joke", "you have no sense of humor", and "lighten up, we're just teasing you" - either from other kids, caregivers, or both?
Teasing is believed to be another major factor in developing ASPD. Teasing can cause a child to feel insecure, unsafe, and attacked when coming from people the child does not have a secure attachment to, and can decrease chances of the child developing that secure attachment later. This is especially true if the teasing came from caregivers, and of course has a higher chance of affecting the child if they attempt to set boundaries around it and aren't respected in that. This leads to the child feeling attacked by the people they are supposed to go to for comfort, and the more people who tease the child, the more likely the child is to feel unsafe around people as a whole - leading to the mindset that all people are dangerous and that the only person the child can trust is themselves. This teasing also causes self-imposed isolation as a way of feeling secure, which reinforces again that people are inherently unsafe and the only person the child can trust is themself. So if you tried to communicate your distress, discomfort, etc. about being teased and were dismissed, especially by your caregivers, then that significantly increased the chance that you would go on to develop ASPD.
One that is currently debated as to if it is a factor or not is the presence of an overprotective mother, specifically if that over-protectiveness became a point of contention between you two as you became more independent. It's surprising because a major characteristic of children who develop ASPD is independence, and most hold the belief that only they will protect them, but the reasoning is sound imo. The reason for this one, from those who believe it is associated with ASPD, is that when a child goes through the normal process of asserting independence, if they are met with either fear tactics as a form of control or heavy anxiety from their maternal figure, the child learns to be insecure, anxious, and obsessive about protecting themselves because they are being taught that the world is not safe/that they are not capable enough to explore that world. This can lead to an overblown expectation of the danger in the real world and leads to anxiety and distress around outside people. This anxiety and nervousness about the world can lead to the child seeing everyone and everything else as a threat, a mindset that is commonly associated with ASPD. If that anxiety is later disproven (as it inevitably will be unless the child experiences significant trauma - itself a risk factor for ASPD), this causes a rift in the attachment to the caregivers in question, and can make the child distrust their judgement and ability to assess risk, which again affects how safe the child feels with them. This is especially true if the connection to their caregivers is weakened by inconsistency, abuse, neglect, or other factors.
Any inconsistent behavior from caregivers, in fact, is another risk factor for developing ASPD. Children need to be able rely on consistency and routine to feel secure and develop normally. If they are constantly uncertain of how safe they may be with one or both caregivers, they are more likely to learn the idea that the only person they can rely on is themself.
Note that all of this is based on the current scientific understanding of ASPD's development, which deals significantly in both stigmatized and entirely false beliefs about the disorder. However, I focused here on points that made sense to me as someone with it, and did my best to explain how these contribute to ASPD through that lens in addition to the potentially biased medical lens. Our understanding of psychology in general is always changing, but these are some risk factors that are commonly believed at the time of writing to increase the chances of developing ASPD.
Also worth noting is that all of these factors do not need to be present to have ASPD develop. These factors significantly increase the risk of developing ASPD, especially when combined with a genetic component, but I am in no way claiming that you have to have all or even any of these to have ASPD.
I hope this helped you understand this disorder and the people with it a bit better. If you know someone with ASPD, maybe this can help you process why they hold the beliefs they do, and if you have ASPD and feel comfortable, feel free to show or explain some of this to your friends if you think it may help them understand where you're coming from a bit more.
A lot of the stigma, I think, comes from the fact that people don't get what we went through that led our brain to believe our antisocial traits were the best way to protect ourselves. For some, a little more light shed on that subject may be all they need to be more compassionate about it. And if you went into this with a negative outlook on pwASPD, I understand. It's easy in the world we're in to end up with that thought process. I appreciate you reading this far and ask you to read just a bit further to the end.
Try if you can to imagine what it's like to be a kid who has been through more than most adults have in their entire life and gotten so little help that that little child believes no one in the world protects anybody else. Imagine what kind of a world we were picturing growing up in because at the time, that was all we had ever seen. It would be horrifying, right? Even worse than the already pretty sucky world we currently live in. Imagine being a child and thinking that every other kid is going through the same stuff you are at home and handling it so much better. And for some, imagine knowing that some don't or that they get help, but not knowing why your life is different. Would you want to live in that world? Would you be able to keep the innocent, childlike wonder? Would you not be angry and hurt and confused as to why you didn't deserve the help and the life other kids get? Many of us lived thinking that from painfully early ages.
Is it so far-fetched for us to think we needed to protect ourselves if everyone was like the sample size of people we had met? Is it so shocking, then, that our subconscious thought that the traits we have now would be the only way to keep us safe? Is it really that surprising that a child so rarely, if ever shown kindness and empathy, might grow up not knowing how to replicate that for other people?
Most of us looked down the barrel of a proverbial (for some of us, literal) g*n as a toddler to young child, so we put on a vest. How were we supposed to know that other children had never felt that unsafe? How were we supposed to know that someone was supposed to help us when they never did?
Just food for thought. Thanks for reading.
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moonlit-positivity · 3 months
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My one goal for society as a whole is to introduce the conversation of our healthcare moving towards a more trauma informed state of mind, because healthcare professionals will look at someone who can't or "refuses" to speak, has self destructive tendencies, and has outbursts of extreme anger and rage, and they will say, "this person is difficult to manage and is a threat to society." And it's like, no, that person is actually traumatized as fuck from a childhood of rape & abuse, what that person needs is a more safer and specialized space for trusting that they are safe enough to talk about what they went through as a kid, rather than you and the rest of society perpetually making them feel even worse than what they already do, for not being able to trust that the people around them aren't gonna treat them like the only indication of what they had to see and endure as a kid. Like why do people go into the mental health field if you don't want to help actually traumatized individuals just as much as anyone else? Humanity will love to romanticize the need to kill predators and bash child abusers, but still absolutely refuses to acknowledge or accept the effects that growing up in these harmful environments can bring, that yes even though we should do away with all the bad and evil in this world, your romanticization of ending child abuse falls short when you're still telling kids they need to sit down shut up and mindlessly obey their parents, and when you tell adult survivors who come forth that they are destroying traditional family values by disrespecting their parents, and when you don't even want to acknowledge or sit with the harmful effects of sexual assault as a child. This has been the bane of my existence since I started openly talking about my trauma, the stigma from mental health professionals who are not even remotely trauma informed just doesn't even help when you are at your wits end with the pain and suffering and desperately needing answers, and the answers they give you are, "why are you yelling so loud? You need to be quiet." Why are we doing this if we aren't willing to help the people who actually need to be helped?? Child abuse exists, csa exists, and these things have extremely complex and irrational and harmful effects on a human being who has had to endure a life of being used and abused with no way out. I just wish people would be more aware of that, and that we could stop demonizing people for not being able to speak up and speak out about what they went through, in a world that is still committed to keeping us in a cage even when we are desperately trying to escape from it. Like why can't we ever talk about these things in places and in people who never even know what this feels like. Why do we have to search endlessly for trauma informed spaces for us to fully exist and be safe in? I don't get it.
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neuroticboyfriend · 1 year
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This post is for the mentally ill and ND people who do harmful things. Those who struggle with anger, aggression, and violence. Those who are manipulative, who do and say things that hurt people. Those who do all these things and more - who don't get why it's harmful due to havig no empathy, sympathy, compassion, remorse, etc.
Doing things that are wrong doesn't make you any less deserving of a good, safe, and fulfilling life. It doesn't make you a monster. It doesn't mean you deserve pain or discrimination. It doesn't mean you deserve to be alone, ostracized, and discarded. It doesn't make your existence wrong.
You're still here with the rest of us. You still have needs, wants, and rights. Some of the things you do may not be good or excusable, but you are a whole person. You are a whole person, and you deserve better. And I hope you get that someday, whatever it means to you.
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Yo so I talked to my partner and found out why all the empaths constantly tell pwASPD that we "definitely are angry" when we aren't. It's not about body language or anything - it's their affective empathy!
Apparently affective empathy reads ASPD neutral emotion as *absolutely livid*.
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duskcecropia · 10 days
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whoever decided that giving me a cluster b personality disorder was a good idea I hope you have a horrible day . ❤️
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violentviolette · 1 year
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genuine protip for free therapy that works, start following "gentle parenting" accounts that discuss the ways they are raising their children and the healthy coping mechanisms and communication they're teaching and then use those techniques on urself. passively consume that content at random moments all throughout ur day. genuinely surround urself with it so that ur encountering it daily, multiple times a day, till those thought processes become second nature think of urself as both the parent and the child. use ur rational adult mindset to learn and internalize these new mindsets and teachings when ur not in distress, and then in moments when u are upset or distressed, parent urself through them. mimic and emulate these parents and speak to urself with the same compassion, patience, and understanding that they speak to their children with
for people with cluster b disorders, we did not have healthy childhoods. we did not grow up learning these messages and being treated with kindness and respect and compassion. we were not given the tools we needed to emotionally navigate the world in a healthy way. but that doesnt mean we cant learn it now. be the parent that u did not have. take care of urself and ur emotions the way they should have been handled
i promise it will make a huge world of difference. it might seem silly at first, or might make u angry and upset seeing people being treated in ways u wish u were, or it even might seem stupid and like it will never work. those are all valid things to feel during the process, but try and stick with it and keep consuming that content and eventually those messages will really sink in and start making a difference
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