#create output

[ssstrawberryflowers]

burnout is a bitch, please accept a small catboy Daan as apology while i try to recover

#posting this on main only because that's where i posted catboy Daan first #sorry about that #fear and hunger termina #fear and hunger daan #my art #saint Sakurai said as follows: “broad input broad output” #yet i have input almost nohing and output very similar things in broad quantity #my mind almost feels like a desert whose sand can't even be used to create concrete #*sigh* i need to play games and read books and watch movies man #sorry for the light rambling

[luthiest]

on a vacation of sorts rn, and i’ve spent most of my mornings sitting in different cafes and drawing… doing creative things is kinda healing, i see what all the hypes about

#it’s like humans aren’t meant exclusively to create useful output and produce numbers #what a concept #nature is healing #more gems of personal information

[aowyn]

i have never been as good at art as i would like to be. however i have decided to stop being embarrassed about this. the only way to get better at art is to do art! so im going to do my best to 1. draw more and 2. post it on here

#i want to create for the sheer joy of it like i did when i was a teenager! #that quote like the time will pass anyway has been resonating with me lately #i wanna do projects that are creative output direct from my brain #since most of the creative projects ive been doing in recent years have been transformative of existing works like recording podfic #which i LOVE to do!!! #but i want to practice other skills as well #tldr im gonna DO ART #no matter my current level of skill #said el

[echoofawind]

I have a problem with 90% of the fests I see advertised with prompting. I love the idea of sharing plot bunnies or creative ideas. I don't like it when the prompt forms have a dozen fields outside of the prompt that further specifies anything. Ship, rating, characters, triggers, etc. A prompt in a standard fest is NOT a request for a gift. The writer is not obligated to write you a story. If you as a prompter have a list of requirements for the prompt, then you are not offering a prompt. You are saying, writer you must write me this exact story. I do not understand how that is seen as the norm in fandom right now instead of rude and limiting?

As long as you don't gift the story to the prompter, you are under NO OBLIGATION to follow any of those superfluous prompt fields. It's a prompt. A starting point for inspiration.

I cannot count how many fest prompts I've read through, found a prompt that sang to my muse and started crafting an idea only to then read 'Do Not Write: age gap relationship. Or only X or Y characters' . Who is this prompter to tell me what stories I am allowed to create? That is not how a prompt works! That is how a gift request works. Stop putting me in a fucking box.

#for the love of whatever deity you subscribe to these fest organizers need to learn the difference between a prompt fest and a gift fest #and not be conflating the two #because if I were to write the story that the prompt inspired me to write and that didn't follow the “extra requirements”... #... I would get labeled like a jerk for my participation which wouldn't be fair to any creator to be punished for their act of creation #if you are so dang bent out of shape that the prompt has to be used for wolfstar then write the dang thing yourself #prompts must be freely given #you do not retain any control of the final product by supplying a prompt #this is probably part of why authors refuse any prompts from fans #fandom discourse #fest discourse #prompting discourse #this whole thing makes me rage and Ive dropped out of fests before even officially joining the fest #e is for echo #A PROMPT IS NOT A GIFT #you are not entitled to the creators output #and you are not entitled to a writer creating a story to your preferences unless its specifically a gift exchange

[moregraceful]

staring at my time begins fic like i have never been less activated by anything in my life

#staring at ALL my creative projects like i have never been less activated by anything in my life #jasbah was like i think you need to pick up reading or tv. do input rather than output. and i was like i can't read #it's making me so cranky in my nonwork hours like brain...please do something....please get activated.... #i know it's just bc i'm extremely tired from 10hr trainings every week and being on zoom legit like once a day for MINIMUM an hr #but also. i would like to be activated. i am becoming mirrorverse kasper without creating something #i met some of the onsite staff i'll be working with today and they were like ''do you feel ~connected~ to the ghost emoji'' #i was like..... yeah. yeah i do #fresno oilers.txt

[rathologic]

patho2 players, check out %AppData%\LocalLow\Ice-Pick Lodge\Pathologic 2\Unity\(some UUID)\Analytics\config for an interesting hint at why the game includes an Internet communication socket. Sound of the summer!

#I can't tell if the analytics *service* ever runs at all (though the output log includes confirmation that the socket is created) #but um. bit of a red flag! #datamining

[vimbry]

man I love the video for doctor worm. how it works as a last hurrah to that "era" of their visual style, being in black & white, using the undercrank technique, the cuts to disjointed surreal imagery, the strange choreography (to the point where it actually stamps the word in big letters over the dance shots like it's very aware of their magic formula).

there's been callbacks to those elements since, especially in the alex italics-directed videos, but years afterward and as purposeful affectionate allusions to their past work. doctor worm seems more like a unique, tidy little send-off as they approached the new millennium.

#tmbg #also as a personal fav detail I like the inclusion of linnell seeming to break and smile. which feels like an outtake from the session #they're usually very openly strict and don't do anything especially ''precious'' in their output. or really make it about themselves. #not to mention this video was directed by flansburgh so that must have been his choice to include that footage in the final cut? #which. I dunno. it just seems sweet! going along with the last hurrah feel it's like a snapshot of them having a good time creating art #I feel like the ''introducing choreography'' text is a homage to something I don't know why. I might be wrong #but there's something about how specific it is that makes me think cinematic reference #but even if it is I think it still works as it does here

[spitblaze]

I will once again state for the record that my issues with generative AI begin when money starts changing hands or individual artists are materially affected by the output of prompt jockeys (impersonation, etc) and I don't consider use of it otherwise to be a huge deal.

Lizard Brain gets jumpy about the idea of creative output being outsourced to machines but like. until neural nets become ACTUALLY intelligent, Smart Brain knows that there's no real replacement for a human being who can make real revisions and critique and adjustments and deliberate choices instead of an algorithm that places pixels down based on the data in its training set.

#spitblaze says things #and at THAT point i cant imagine that the creative output of real intelligent sentient ai would be anything close to human art #i wonder what a machine would create if it could #do robots dream of electric sheep etc #YES the datasets are unethical theres a lot of fucking issues with that. assuming that all got solved. this is my opinion #the gay sex cats are fine they make me uncomfy bc of lizard brain but i recognize that its not materially different than a complex photosho #i mean it is. but i feel like random internet photos are generally less egregious in use than. yknow. Artwork #dont ask me to elaborate this is a gut opinion not an informed academic take

[trainingdummyrabbit]

god i want to draw so fuckig bad but i do Not have the mental capacity for it

#th downsides of entering survival mode is not being able to tell youre in survival mode bc youre too busy . surviving. #oh and also the whole Critically Low Health/Sanity Bars and Rapid Consistent Chip damage. thats mayb e slightly a little relevant #piktalk #all ive been able t do is small little things adn only really barely. very frustrating when you have the whole entire day and then you j. #[stares blankly at the wall for 8 hours] #yknow? i havent Actually lined or colored anything in ages. or um. if i have ive forgotten. which is. [waves hands around More] #like i shouldnt place so much importance on my output but. mmrrrhrhghgrgr. and also if i do not create Constantly ill get Sick. yknow.

[arysthaeniru]

"This language of work was by no means the private language of a single-minded maniac who had lived too long under the volcano. To the contrary, Hill’s ideas were on the leading edge of the terrain where biological science and social science intersected. In particular, the concept of the calorie, as a measure of both energy consumed and work done, emerged in connection with the steam-engine-based economics of work in mid-nineteenth century Europe. By the turn of the twentieth century, the calorie had developed into a unit of equivalency between what people ate and how much work they could generate, what they needed to consume and what they were capable of producing—effectively recasting the body as a measurable machine.Whether or not Hill had a formal grasp of the field of expert knowledge cohering around the calorie and its implications for labor management and social policy, he did understand it implicitly, for he paid his employees in food. He used the way of seeing the relation of food and work that gained expression in the science of the calorie in his campaign to reduce the people who worked on his plantations to mechanisms of value production—to make them his."

Augustine Sedgewick - Against Flows

(emphasis mine)

#i highly recommend reading the whole article #it's a bit dense at points #but it pushes back against this idea of capitalism as flows #where work is subsumed and made as natural as water flowing #but this particular passage really fucking struck me #i spend a lot of time railing against how dieting and calorie counting asks us to reduce ourselves #make ourselves smaller and take up less room #i hadn't fully grasped how much capitalists created calories to be an efficiency model #how little input-food can you put into the machine-person while still maintaining output-productivity? #it is a fundamentally unhuman way of thinking #we must reject calories to reject capitalism #we deserve to eat more than the barest fucking minimum #we are not robots #we are not efficient machines #we are not water either #we are humans #messy and sticky and inefficient and that's a good thing #anti-dieting #anti-capitalism

[mortiscausa]

ngl i find it kind of wierd when people tag my arthurian stuff as fanart because i really do not think about it that way at all haha

#not that i have anything against fanart #literally like 50% of my output the last 3 years has been babylon 5 fanart #but i don't really think about it the same way #i feel an ownership over my arthurian art that i do not feel about fanart #like the stuff i've been doing recently is actually for a graphic novel i want to try and get published one day >__> #best way i can put the divide in my head is fanart is for something that is someone else's ip #whereas arthuriana belongs to us all and we all get to own what we create from it in a very real way #if that makes sense haha #idk i think it's very much a matter of personal perspective and i know other people have a definition of fanart/fanworks that is broader #and ANYWAY im not like demanding people tag my work a specific way #it's just something i've noticed that i found interesting #because i just never think of arthurian art as fanart unless it's art of a specific show or novel or adaptation like that bbc show salkjdl #if this somehow starts wank i will take another month off the internet alksdjlksjlkdsa

[tswwwit]

Now that Bill vs Bill is over, I am left in that horrible void in between the end of one project and the start of the other. I mean, I have Raised Spirits and Confessing It to get to! But like. Effort.

There's also a sort of epilogue to Bill vs Bill I was thinking of writing but who knows if I'll get to it!

I'll pick one eventually! I'm just indecisive. Once more into the Writing Mines with me.

#Oh and I guess there's the Summer Smut I alluded to #But I don't have a solid premise for that one #Ah the ennui of the uncertainty of projects #I'll start up again probably tonight knowing me #I'm just waffling on what it'll be #Gonna probably slap Bill vs Bill up on AO3 while I'm working on whatever I end up working on #Some helpful anon sent in some prospective titles but I will still take some time to decide #If there's anything I hate about writing it's titling things #And action scenes #Definitely those #I know many people were expecting the finale to be a beatdown #but you all underestimated Just How Far I will go to Not Write Action Scenes #If anyone's interested in a breakdown of how I constructed it I could write that up #But then again that's just me asking for another reason to procrastinate #The part of my brain that demands output is already handing me the writing pickaxe #Time To Create

[mctreeleth]

Something something commodification of hobbies resulting in alienated leisure as parallel to alienated labour... disconnect from “product” in both instances... alienated from leisure activities through need to commodify under rules of post-Fordist neoliberal capitalist hustle culture... if the goal is to enjoy the effort, putting a price on that effort transforms said effort into labour/done for profit rather than enjoyment, and so the individual is alienated from their goal of enjoyment in service of the new capitalism, in much the same way that a worker is alienated from their labour under Fordist capitalism... something something “the market” as boss to self-employed individuals... something something the algorithm is more fickle than the man in head office and you don’t even have a union....

#I don't regret dropping out of PhD because I am alive to look back at it and therefore I made the right decisions #because the wrong decision would have been pushing on even though it was so so so bad for my mental health that I wouldn't be here #but I spent a good few years railing against post-Fordist capitalism and then went and got myself a very Fordist factory job #and I am much happier doing that than I think I would be trying to commodify the activities that I do for leisure #I put in my 38 hours of time and yes someone else is making money off of it #however #every time I see a reel on instagram that is a small business literally dancing so that the algorithm will favour it #I see the parallels between all these people who ''are their own bosses'' and me who has an actual boss #both of us subject to the whims of *some other thing* #but my creative output is not mired in capitalism's tendrils #I am connected wholly to the things I create #it is for me it is not for ''the market'' #I don't need to care that what I do at work is an atomised part of some larger thing when I can make a coat start to finish after work #but somethings you have a thought and realise you gave up the chance to just write this sort of stuff properly for the rest of your life #like okay yes that would have also made me utterly utterly miserable #and maybe I would not have had this particular realisation were I not literally at a factory job right now #but it was nice to have my thoughts validated by people who knew their shit

[aeide-thea]

dipping my toe into fandom discourse here, which is never a great idea, but—i really am baffled by the contingent of fans who apparently want AO3 to not only denounce but ban AI-generated works, as if there were any reliable way to distinguish between mediocre writing produced by a human and mediocre writing produced by an AI…?

#i saw someone say elsewhere‚ and agree‚ that all a ban would accomplish wld be to discourage fans who make use of AI from indicating as much #i do personally think the best writing won't be by AIs #or at least‚ it'll have been edited with a fine-toothed comb by a human who's got a really good sense of style and story themself #such that they could've produced the writing unaided‚ and the AI armature is just a crutch #but imo the big issues with AI are like. (1) the dataset it gets trained on— #though like. human artists *also* view other people's art and incorporate it into their body of influences‚ tbh? #we just get mad when they copy someone else's work TOO directly. but it's in their heads informing the art they produce!— #and (2) its potential to put humans out of work—which i have *huge* sympathy for‚ but also… that's been true of every machine ever invented #(also like. fandom is a gift economy‚ not paid work‚ so that aspect of things literally doesn't apply in an AO3 context.) #but like people have brought up the luddites in connection with this and. yeah. #ultimately there's always still a place for human operators and human oversight and human curation of the machines' raw output #and so ultimately i think we'll just have to work out what that place will be in this context #and in the meantime—i'd hope people would disclose when work has been created using AI #which they absolutely *won't* do if sites are out there banning it! people who want to use it will still use it‚ and just lie! #like you can say 'but then you don't get the satisfaction of knowing you're being praised for work *you* did‚ bc the AI did it!' #'surely that sense of being an impostor will discourage people!' #but like. hello. i've seen (and reported) multiple *very clear* instances of fic plagiarism. #the fact that those 'authors' were getting praised for‚ not only work they didn't do‚ but *someone else's* work‚ did not deter them! #saw someone going 'AO3 has its particular set of organizing principles & that's valid! we should just make our own sites where we ban AI!' #and like. hello: if your mini-archive gets popular enough that ppl want to be part of it‚ posters who use AI *will* just lie to you??? #(i'm curious abt the overlap between that camp and users who think DNIs are effective‚ lol.) #anyway. #Fannish Ethical Concerns

[julianbashir]

its really frustrating approaching conversations about AI because so many people don't understand how it works and seem resistant against learning more about it. it feels like trying to correct preconceptions makes people assume you're some dumb techbro

#like im of the opinion AI networks are not evil. they are literally just computer programs being fed inputs and creating outputs #based on previous data it has been trained on #as a result AI can be prone to revealing biases from the data it was given #but also the thing to question is who is using this technology in an exploitative manner #these ethical questions have pervaded every bit of modern technology btw. #you will never have a definite most moral answer to new technology. come to terms with that.

[harumiura]

i highly doubt im gonna finish anything better than my chrome art before the year is up so im posting this now..... got through another year boys!

#art summary #im the proudest of my output this year that i've been in a long time so that's cool! #ends on kind of a bummer note tho cuz i drew so much this year but then since i got a Job a couple months ago i've done way less :( #mental illness has been sapping me of creativity/motivation in recent times too :/ altho i've made some cool stuff too #basically nowadays ill be driven to create smth highly personal every once in a while that i usually dont wanna post here #but i've lost a lot of my silly khr drawing fuel #anyway happy holidays new year etc to anyone reading this #my art #oh yeah a few of these things i never posted on tumblr so enjoy that all my devoted fans on here