'the Targaryens are unnatural and genetically mad'
Im sorry but WHAT does genes got to do with westeros and who sits on the iron throne or are you implying the rest of westerosi lords and ladies were so sane and selfless they never resorted to killing or committing genocides i mean if we are talking about medieval society with all kinds of ill reputed things then lets get one fact established at least no house or minor house has honorable or high pedestal status..Almost all of them did kill and conquered i literally dont get whats the point of having a natural claim to throne if you're not gonna invade and also get peace later?? do ppl think magically everyone will be accustomed to bend the knee? even in 100% ideal situations will blood be shed. Every house killed chunk of people to establish dominance hence why starks in north always, and lannisters in south, its all about claim! Daenerys has claim similar to almost every other person who has righteous claim to the throne. And lets be honest, she isn't the only ambitious character. She isn't only one fighting sole war to sit there. We had robb avenging neds death for rightful reasons or lannisters protecting throne from the tyrells indirectly due to fear of usurping. Same for baratheons. How is stannis, or renly fighting for thrones cute and ambitiously positive but dany doing similar is always criticism-worthy.
Secondly, i never knew the genetic makeup and gene studies were important in westeros to know or predict who goes mad or not esp when ppl pull up the mad targaryen card.
Jbtw. Targaryens had blood of valyria. Dragons blood, they were canonically different, theoretically different, practically different, the fire and blood can mean destruction and wrath almost what every house or its sigil and words contribute to, and fire also means passion, warmth, and justice. You can dislike some of their kings but daenerys hasn't even embarked on that journey yet, also what i forgot to mention so yeah you have these silver haired humans taming dragons, yes only Targaryens can do that you have them bonding and having or spending half of their time on their dragons tirelessly, you see most of them with performing some magic rituals in case of visenya and daenerys (the cracking of stone and hatching of 3 dragon eggs in ritual), and yes, they were incredibly passionate and rogue, you could gaze and look and sense they were Targaryens, they didn't even tell people to leave their religion, gods and culture after conquering, targaryens are actually integral part of magical world of asoiaf which is similar to some starks having wolf dreams and warging too. What part of them do you find unnatural when they already did miraculous things that you think their genetic make up is somehow different....honestly lol, it is. They are also otherworldly and beautiful in an entirely different way with the purple eyes and hair. The Targs were one of noble families of valyria where all sorts of magic and sorcery was practiced, only they survived doom because daenerys the dreamer saw it in her dreams literally. They were the most different house, which made general public of westeros believe they are tyrants...and have killing machines. I really dont think they intended to use those dragons apart from in wars. They made pacts and peace and gave splendidly to people who were good to them. As far in asoiaf there are people who remember them in bad words there are ones who like them and prefer them too.
and then coming to daenerys,...she is most truest and different targaryen in a way that she didn't just one but hatched 3 dragons without anything or prior knowledge of magic and hatching them. Her claim to throne is as much genuinely as someone else. It is so foolish to even say the genes thing makes them mad. Actually no. Apart from some few or maybe 2,3 targaryen who did become vivacious and mad NONE of them were.
Lets not forget, her becoming dark or mad is such made up post-season-8 and disastrous bullshit because it is dark fantasy book and fany and her dragons and the dragonflame is needed as much to defeat the whites and the others which stands as the real enemy, The conflicts between the houses is also merely a distraction.
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Missandei, of House Butterfly. She can tell adorkable jokes, call for help in 19 languages...and maybe even change time <3
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Dany knew just enough about horses to know that this was no ordinary animal. There was something about her that took the breath away. She was grey as the winter sea, with a mane like silver smoke.[…]“Silver for the silver of your hair,…” […] She is the pride of the khalasar. […] “Tell Khal Drogo that he has given me the wind.” - Daenerys II, AGoT
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Spoiler for s8e5 of Game of Thrones
I don't know if what Daenerys does in this episode is what pissed people off so much. I still need the final episode, so there's still time to get me angry like so many others.
But so far, all I can really say about what Daenerys did here is... It didn't surprise me. Her fate, what she was going to become, was perfectly build up. My mom and I have watched the show together, first time for both of us, and we agreed at maybe season 2 or 3 that yes, something was going to happen that would make Daenerys forget her good intentions and be consumed by anger.
This was perfectly foreshadowed through the entire show. We have seen over and over again how far she's willing to go to get what she wants. The moment Missendei died, we knew the outcome for King's Landing.
I'm not remotely surprised. So if THAT was what pissed people off so much, I get why people would be upset, but it wasn't surprising at all to me. Nor do I think it was out of character for her.
She's done horrible shit and is very "my way or the high way". I love Daenerys, she's one of my top 5 characters, but her attacking King's Landing despite the bells ringing, and signifying the people giving up, wasn't remotely surprising.
the ‘dany in the winterfell’ serve we could have had in season 8
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Dany while sympathize with people but it's always what she think about their condition rather than what they feel. When she order to lhazreen women to their rapist she did because of her own experience not one wondering whether they wanted or not. She never see mirri pov only her pain. She sympathize with missendei but also warn her to not betray her. She thinks she is a savior but she is isn't.
"Dany will sympathize with people but it's always what she thinks about their condition rather than what they think."
took the words out of my mouth babe. She is the White Man's/Woman's Burden given a face and voice. Part of the reason we see people in leadership positions fail at being leaders is because they don't weigh the wants or needs of the people or otherwise outright ignore them, and are then punished for selfish actions. D wants so very badly to be seen and noticed, to be in awe of - but in her road to perdition it's no longer about fighting the world's monsters (likely stemming from sympathy but also a need to prove Targ exceptionalism while not being all that exceptional despite having dragons), and she cares less if that awe is from love or fear.
She doesn't know how to give people what they want, because, imo, she doesn't know how to ask and more and more...doesn't want to learn.
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I VOW TO SERVE YOU.
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Daenerys is basically a shonen male hero (shares certain traits with many of them) and even the ones that go dark but get redemption (aka Sasuke) but you all want her to go evil and die awfully killed by a probably lover like in that cursed show.
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i swear to god yall DO know that you CAN like both dany AND sansa at the same time right
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“The dragon has three heads, remember? You have wondered at that, ever since you heard it from the warlocks in the House of Dust. Well, here’s your meaning: Balerion, Meraxes, and Vhagar, ridden by Aegon, Rhaenys, and Visenya. The three-headed dragon of House Targaryen—three dragons, and three riders.” - George R. R. Martin, A Song of Ice and Fire
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Two of Dany's favorite hostages served the food and kept the cups filled—a doe-eyed little girl called Qezza and a skinny boy named Grazhar. They were brother and sister, and cousins of the Green Grace, who greeted them with kisses when she swept in, and asked them if they had been good.
"They are very sweet, the both of them," Dany assured her. "Qezza sings for me sometimes. She has a lovely voice.”
- Dany IV, aDwD
A scenario of Daenerys, her cupbearer Qezza, and the green grace Galazza Galare together; with Qezza singing for them :)
This is for the alternative prompt: Essosi Minor Ladies for the Asoiaf Minor Ladies Week!
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The last Targaryens
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Evolution of Daenerys Targaryens Gowns
In Season 2 Daenerys and her dragons travel to Qarth:
Daenerys still wears Dothraki clothing in the beginning of Season 2 but those shift to clothing that is more inspired by the fashion in Qarth
she wears light colours, Rosa like in Season 1 but also light blue
She also adds elegant metal armour to her blue dress, while she wears leather to the Rosa gown, it’s as if she feels the need to shield herself against the people at Qarth
the nightgown she dons reminds me of the Westerosi fashion
she also starts to wear one braid throughout the whole season
“Do you understand? I’m no ordinary woman. My dreams come true”
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Another old portrait of Viserys & Daenerys :>>
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Chapter 7: The One With The Inappropriate Thoughts
For the football au …
Summary: Theon has a little crisis, plus Dany shows up at the training field and the next conflict is bound to happen.
He doesn't have the heart to talk him out of it. He never manages to refuse him anything. Maybe it's his stupid charm that lulls him in, or the big smile he gets as a reward whenever he agrees. Whatever it is, Theon nods and Robb appears to be more than satisfied with the answer.
Still, he does not hide his anguish when he takes off the gear shortly after. His back almost kills him. He'll probably get a fat bruise where Snow rammed his elbow into his side. He is about to yell his complaint across the room when suddenly the door opens.
They all raise their heads.
And to his surprise, it’s none other than fucking Cinderella herself standing in the doorway. Although the scowl on her face suggests she’s not just here to get her glass shoe back.
The crew is back, and this time for real! As always, it is a pleasure to write Theon's POV and I hope you have just as much fun reading it!! ❤️
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'Famous Hollywood Actors Hanging Out With Their Iconic Roles' By Ard Gelinck
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Book!Dany: *knows that Hizdahr is a wealthy man whose support could help her bring peace to Meereen and treats him with courtesy*
Book!Dany: *is friendly and laughs with Hizdahr even while she denies his requests to reopen the fighting pits*
Book!Dany: *asks Hizdahr to kiss her when she considers marrying him*
Book!Dany: *makes jokes and behaves playfully with Hizdahr after agreeing to marry him if he gives her ninety days of peace in Meereen, respects and follows local customs and traditions and makes many, many concessions in the name of peace because she tends to avoid using violence*
The show: *makes Dany come across as cold, humorless and brash in her interactions with Hizdahr, as well as someone prone to using violence and unwilling to compromise and adapt to Meereenese culture*
Book!Hizdahr: *is a "cunning" man interested in profiting off the reopening of the pits*
Book!Hizdahr: *is eager to marry Dany, says (we don't know if honestly or not) that "custom and caution" hindered Meereen until Dany arrived as a reason to convince her to marry him*
Book!Hizdahr: *dismisses thousands of slaves as necessary sacrifices in the name of the false peace*
Book!Hizdahr: *takes pleasure at the prospect of releasing lions to slaughter dwarfs*
The show: *makes Hizdahr the "good" and "pacifist" slave master who Dany should learn from, who wants to reopen the pits out of concern for Meereenese traditions and who is pressured into marrying Dany*
The show: *changed Dany's and Hizdahr's personalities so drastically that almost none of their scenes can be recontextualized to their book moments in gifs because their facial expressions can't match their book counterparts' at all*
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