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[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

I don't know if this has been asked before but how would Handler react if when/if he finds that Sun pretends to smoke with canddles and drink Fizzy Faz?

Not well.

Disheartened even.

Like he lingers and only exists as the worst parts of them.

He can't do anything right.

#blah blah blah story reasons for why he reacts that way but we'll see #danachans replies

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Thoughts on the Freddy Fazbear himself?

The man the myth, the legend, Freddy Fazbear himself!!!!

I believe he's written very inconsistent.

And it's intentional that he is. I feel like Gregory and Freddy are written in a way that seems like certain scenes or interactions came from an earlier stage in development.

Where Gregory was as helpless as he appeared in the trailer, and that Freddy was planning to betray Gregory or become corrupted at the end. (There is unused corrupted Freddy dialogue to prove that theory)

But there are so many instances of the game where Freddy acts suspicious for no good reason.

But I really feel it's a case of like... An idea from early in development that didn't carry over to the current game, or just the gameplay not aligning with character dialogue and motivations.

When Freddy finds the first recharge station with Gregory, he stays there for a good few hours before he's accessible to Gregory again. (Until the end of the Daycare segment)

Well, it could be he was on reserved power and his battery entirely drained, but that doesn't explain every other time he could go into a recharge station and get recharged from zero power in a few seconds.

And this is slightly before the first chica and Monty encounter. So did he like know they were there...and glitched, and gonna eat him?? Or????

This is just a gameplay mechanic breaking a story element. The time Freddy spends in a recharge station is never consistent. It basically does what the plot needs it to do.

Also Vanny's introduction, Freddy acts like he really couldn't see her.

But later, in one of the mini games where you shock the animatronics on the other side of the doors, he says "I can not stop her" as if she was in the room again or hacking his communications.... when he wasn't acting like she was there previously. And I know the VA is a good voice actor, and he doesn't sound bothered at all or surprised she's there.

Impling he knows who she is or she tried to dismantle in. He also tends to get a second wind out of nowhere, and Gregory SOMEHOW fixed Freddy's communication signal by taking a Security badge.

Like the whole "shock" mini game feels like Freddy might be lying to us or misleading us somehow and he's just acting like he's hurt... But no. Nothing comes of this.

Freddy also knows Vanny's name if you NEVER play Fazerblast and see her hideout. A lot of people miss this detail, cause it says Vanny's name in the subtitles. But Vanny never introduced herself by name or anything like that. We just see graffiti in her hideout.

And even when we do, Freddy is like "Hmmmmmm seems like a combination of Vanessa and Bunny. Can't be a considence."

Almost like he's trying to.... BLAME VANESSA?!

(granted she's mean at him so I understand that a bit. Lol)

But there's a lot of contradictory evidence and no fans can really agree if Vanny and Vanessa are the same person or not. (I just do for the sake of simplicity in my fic and to mirror the daycare attendant)

So Freddy really tries to throw Vanessa under the bus with only circumstantial evidence so far. So that's also weird.

Like can he see the Rabbit women pre-roxyeyes or not. It's not very clear.

Freddy also says the Glamrocks are his friends and he'll never do anything to hurt them. And either plays dumb or acts horrified when he realizes his parts are his friends parts.

However, when Freddy encounters a withered Glamrock animatronic in the wild, he has absolutely no commentary about it. At all.

You would think there would be something, but nah, Freddy is relegated to a gameplay element and nothing more when you are getting from point a to point b.

Chica, Roxy, and Monty are torn to prices and screaming and crying all over the building.

And Freddy is just:. :3

Another weird thing about it, if the animatronics are his friends and aren't "normally like this" as Freddy claims....

Why the fuck is Freddy chill with burning the place to the ground in the fire escape ending....

He is willing to launch himself off a roof, kill Vanny and himself, and burn the Pizzaplex to the ground with his friends trapped inside.

FREDDY, ARE YOU OKAY?!?!

No.

The only consistent character trait with Freddy, and I don't think it was intentional, is that he is self-sacrificing to an outrageous degree. About in half the endings, Freddy sacrifices himself intentionally so that Gregory will be safe. And sometimes in dumb ways (there was no reason for him to launch himself off the building with Vanny when he could have easily pushed her with his strength.)

And his willingness to take himself down with all his friends as well... Kinda shows me that Freddy might have severe suicidal ideation.

And with the exestential crisis he has in the Endo room, makes me really think about it.

He worries about not being the only Glamrock Freddy. Worried about his role to entertain young children and how much is preprogrammed and what is his own personality and if he's just a manufactured personality.

This combined with the confirmed sadness over Bonnie's death and the cryptic "I am not me" speech...

Really makes me think Freddy needs some serious therapy.

And it's so sad that the only consistent character traits he has are his sadness over Bonnie and exestential dread.

Although I believe completely unintentional. Either that, or it was intentional for Freddy to be so suspicious for a misdirect...but I think it wasn't done all that well and it just comes off as Freddy acting sus for no reason.

Personally, I do think Freddy is a big ol teddy bear. And he is meant to be a big papa bear who's a bit of a himbo.

But how I write him, I try to make him a bit of a hypocrite at times. And a little paranoid and superstitious.

Like the kinda guy who would ask if it's okay to cancel you on Twitter cus of someone else's bad opinion.

"Chica. You eat garbage and many of the guests are concerned and don't like the smell. Can you not do that for me, please."

"..........you'll never take me alive!!!"

#fnaf #fnaf glamrock freddy #freddy fazbear #danachans replies #fnaf sb #five nights at freddys security breach

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Chica is also obviously the best because she's actually kind of like the animal she is based on. She acts like an actual chicken and it's adorable. Also she makes chicken noises doesn't she? Like she bawks i'm pretty sure.

Yes! She bawks! And it is adorable 🥰

Monty does roar. But I don't think real gators roar. Not like he does anyway.

Roxanne doesn't bark or howl.

Freddy doesn't growl unless you count him trying to fight off Afton in burn the basement ending

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[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Question for you Dana, What's currently your favorite chapter? For both Lofi and Twins (I will be sending Ceph the same question :3) -🦐

I don't know.

I have really terrible memory problems, and unless I have my drafts in front of me, I can not remember what I wrote unless it was a crucial detail.

Which is why someone like me always benefits from an editor. (even if I do get irrationally angry when inconsistences happen)

But for Twins, my favorite chapter is EASILY chapter 17. Where Moon and Sun finally have that emotional confrontation.

(and I believe I was the one who came up with Sun having a puppet outside the door at first as well as a few other jokes)

As well as the "rulereaker... promise breaker heartbreaker..." bit as well as a lot of emotional raw dialogue.

I remember writing a majority of the dialogue for that one. As someone who has had a sibling, has had a major argument, we disowned each other, and we made up and now we live together...

To say I didn't base a lot of it off personal experience would be a lie.

As for Lofi, I don't know and I struggle to remember what happens in each chapter.

I wanta say the chapters that I haven't written yet are my favorites. hahahaha.

But I do love me some moments.

I love the introduction of the DJ, the introduction of Samantha. Jeremy playing with Sun...

as well as the entirety of the Prologue and Handler's detached mannerisms describing his situation.

The night chapters are the funnest to write for me and they flow really naturally.

Meanwhile, Writing Sun is a NIGHTMARE.

I love Sun. But damn.

It's not just Sun that's the issue here.

Sun is confined to the Daycare, and his only interactions throughout the day are children in a variety of ages and angry parents so he has no one to really talk about, or bounce off of other than just playing and being depresso. there's no interesting locations to go to, or no real deep conversations to be had.

(I love Samantha but her motivations are clear to understand. She wants a werewolf friend, so they better get along.)

Not to mention, that Sun is 100% his job and his identity and self-worth is tied to his job (moreso than Moon, even tho Moon has the same problem)

Chapters that take place during the Daytime are my least favorite for sure. I hope to make it a little more interesting in the future, but they're certainly a slog to get though.

#fnaf #lofi capture fic #twins fic #danachans replies

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

You said Chica is your fave so we all just grabbed a chair and some tea and sat down like a book club meeting to hear all about it

Chica needs a lot more appreciation than she gets and it's one of the reasons I'm making her one of Moon's first few friends outside of the DJ and Vanessa in my fic.

She seems like the most down to earth and approachable out of the batch.

Freddy means well, but is busy and scared of Moon. lol

I can also see Chica being one of the few who convinces Moon to be more nice to people (and that includes his counterpart)

There will be many future scenes with Chica.

(and yes Roxy will make her debut as well. lol)

#danachans replies #lofi capture fic

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Is it bad that I'm saddened by the fact that Sun actually hates taking care of kids especially since I've had this impression that he likes taking care of kids ever since SB released? :') I felt like my heart shattered and the AU I have in mind wouldn't make sense anymore

Once again: You can do whatever you want forever!

Don't let Canon stop those soft Sun and Moon headcanons.

However, for me, I actually love this and thinks it adds a lot of humanity to his character, ironically.

And as any person who works in childcare will tell you, My Own Mother included, will say "FUCK THEM KIDS" outside of work hours.

Sun has a very short temper fuse. And he gives the impression of someone who deliberately plays favorites. Any kid who's not following the rules, he gets angry at from like a zero to 10000 immediately.

He absolutely plays favorites, and even a child who isn't nessasarily "BAD" ...but doing something outside the norm... Example, some child who isn't coloring inside the lines...

"THIS IS NOT A TIME FOR CREATIVITY, THIS IS A TIME FOR ART!"

Which is so interesting to me. It's part of his programing to adhere to the rules and the structure of the institution to an absurd degree he won't engage with critical thinking, creativity, or childish mistakes?

It's honestly just a cool and interesting concept in general?

Like an animatronic made only to look after children but there is something that causes him to be bad at it. Is he good at it and merely glitching?

Was he never properly programmed from the start and Faz Entertainment pushed a malfunctioning product out to recoup costs?

Is there something overriding that skill from an outside source?

Is something overriding it internally like some manifestation of the "ghost in the machine" thing?

Is it because he used to be a theatre bot not intended to work closely with children?

Is it just anxiety? and Who programmed the anxiety or did it develop because kids didn't listen to him, and now he's just on his last straw with them? ???? I look forward to fnaf canon answering none of these questions.

#fnaf #help wanted 2 #help wanted 2 spoilers #fnaf spoilers #danachan's asks #danachan's replies #Like this makes him SO more relatable and interesting to me #Fanon Sun ruined my perception of him and I thought he was boring and happy for the longest time #I keep forgetting he's... LIKE THIS and that's what I love

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Can we talk about how today's episode on tsams ended???? There is no way they aren't doing this on purpose

THEY HELD HANDS!!!!

Also, Moon willing to get captured immediately to go with Solar when he didn't do the same thing when Sun fell in a trap in Bloodmoon's lair.

Also, this a bad time to mention that I headcanoned they kissed already on screen?

It was the same episode Eclipse showed up on the balcony I think (which overshadowed everything)

But Solar said he was tired, and Moon pushed him away like "go charge, go charge, go"

You can distinctly hear a lip smacking noise when his face is close to Solar.

So it gives the illusion that Moon gave him a little peck before sending him on his way.

Now, that's fandom ship brain talking.

More then likely, Reed just popped his lips as he was talking at an awkward moment due to his slight lisp.

But honestly, due to the context, and Moon worried about his well-being it can be totally taken as a good night kiss.

#solarmoon #danachan's replies #danachan's asks #im going crazy

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Why are you and twinanimatronics spreading misinformation that Solar just calls himself cousin as a joke? I don't care what y'all ship, just at least don't spread misinformation like that. Proven in today's LAES episode, Lunar was quick to consider Solar as sibling despite Earth clarifying that he's a cousin. Point is, Solar wasn't joking about that.

Earth literally said that Solar isn't a cousin and gave him a title cause she likes giving a title for things.

They have clarified this at least a total of two times in their reaction episodes. And I really think it's the VA's way of saying "Ship what you like."

I say "joke" because Solar did call himself a cousin as a joke in the Christmas Episode. "Who's gonna give a gift to good ol' cousin Solar -he laughs- "

It's the only time he's referred to himself as such.

Every other time he's felt awkward about it every time Earth tends to bring it up.

I did not view Solar as a cousin LONG before Earth made a cute little title for him. She even acts like it's a non-official thing. And I still don't. I do not view Solar a sibling either.

I ship them as AU and not related.

I do not view Solar as related. I do not view him as a sibling. I do not view him as a distant relative either.

People who don't support SolarMoon Ship SunEclipse all the time.

Eclipse and Solar are literally the same person from a different dimention.

So Sun can be shipped with an Eclipse?

But Solar Can't?

What kinda weird logic is that?

By that Logic, Every single Sun and Moon themed animatronic is related.

Is Solar and Ruin shipped together incest?

Is Ruin and Eclipse shipped together incest?

Is shipping Gemini with Lunar Pedophila because one is a star being and the other is a robot????

What if Eclipse has a redemption arc and then Told Sun and Moon he wanted to be THEIR BROTHER... WHAT THEN?!?!?! WHAT THEN?! I'm curious actually. As an Eclipse x Sun shipper, what would you do then?!?!?

Earth and Lunar even joked that their family tree is basically nonexistant.

I think we need to normalize people Just saying "This ship isn't for me" and stop trying to pull a "GOTCHA" and trying to find an excuse things are morally reprehensible or throw people under the bus because they just liked the idea or possibilities of seeing two animatronic robots kiss.

#This is not even going to the ship tags #I am so tired man #I already cried last night about my real life #I don't need this #danachan's replies #danachan's asks #louder in the tags for the back: I DO NOT SHIP THEM AS RELATED #End discussion

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Reading that post about Eclipse confuses me because my mindset about him hasn’t changed even with the tragic backstory (mainly because we were shown his bad actions first). Yes, it was sad that Moon left him in Sun’s head, but it does NOT excuse what he’s done after that. And I know he also said, “So why do I still care?” when he had slapped Lunar (which almost made me want to root for him to change), but he shoved that feeling down and continued on his dark path.

Honestly I never thought Eclipse was that big a threat.

Maybe it's the nature of a VR RP show, but all Eclipse did was monologue about how much Sun and Moon suck and he wants them to suffer.

The only real crimes he actually did was, idk, abuse his two creations and cause everyone in the Pizzaplex to think Sun and Moon were bad guys.

Other then that, his real crime is monologuing for too long and everyone panicking about what he possibly COULD do, rather then what he actually did.

Eclipse is kind of the reason that the Killcode thing became a problem and that Moon had to wipe his memories. But that was more of an unintended byproduct of anything. As we find out, Eclipse got big sad when Moon didn't know who he was.

Eclipse is also the reason July 16th massacre happened, but again, that was more of an unintended byproduct of him building BloodMoon just for the sake of having company and someone as "evil" as him.

To me, Eclipse read more as "Team Rocket" evil, rather then Marvel evil, like they were trying to go for.

Everything that is true evil he does, is always on accident.

And everything that is evil with intent, isn't that bad in the grand scheme of things. Not that I'm justifying his abuse to Lunar, but realistically, that's about all he did. (Well, and the maternity chip with Roxanne...which in retrospect, is kinda a subplot that went nowhere. But I don't like how they write Roxanne in the SBshow verse anyway)

Maybe I am way older then the target demographic for this silly YouTube show,

But I never understood Eclipse as a threat in his own show. In a narrative sense, and how other characters perceived him.

He was just a Cheeto who liked listening to himself talk at the end of the day, that everyone perceived as a threat cus he liked to burn ants for fun.

@ayyy-imma-ninja @twinanimatronics

#tsams #sun and moon show #danachan's replies

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Ngl 'm kinda salty that instead of having Sun, or Solar, or Monty in today's gaming video on Laes, they had Roxanne, someone who is irrelevant to their channels besides being a running gag for teasing Sun. I know that Davis is probably too busy to record with Kat, Reed, and Valentine but I'd rather wait for him to be available for however long it takes than to watch a gaming video with Roxanne in it :/

My only theory as to why the Roxanne Show did this huge collab was because that they have recorded a VR lore collab episode with them as well and they were available.

Which.........

Isn't great.

I don't like their portrayal of Vanny.

That's my woman blorbo and you screwed her up.

Keep her away from me.

Although, I've never been a big fan of their Roxanne portrayal either.

My personal opinion. Take it with a grain of salt.

I thought the Christmas Special was terrible.

"Did everyone enjoy the Holiday Special?" "No RAGS... only you did." "Oh... well that pretty much my target audience anyway..."

*i watched the whole thing so you don't have to. Honestly, if you have seen the two very short clips of Davis's Sun and Earth/Kat singing, that's all you need. Because they're the only two of this musical that can actually... well... sing.*

The singing made my inner choir kid cringe.... and I just... did not care for the plot.

Roxanne was stressed over the holidays... because of the drama SHE created.... She whined about her estranged on again off again father not liking Christmas, whined when Gregory tried to invite Cassie over, Whined when Gregory was upset and dealing with drama of his only ghost friends potentially leaving the astral plain, Was annoyed when Freddy was trying to be a good boyfriend because she wasn't happy that not EVERYONE was having "the best christmas ever" Cus "Who doesn't like Christmas?" I don't know, Roxanne... people who are busy, people who work retail, people with dead relatives (like Cassie by the way) .... people who don't CELEBrate Christmas???

And I was waiting for the other shoe to drop so much in this special. Because so far, All they've sung about what makes Christmas Great is the Commodification and the Commercialism of Christmas.

That's what makes Christmas great. The cookies, the presents, the colorful lights.....big parties, traditions... etc etc....

Which, come on, I do NOT expect animatronics to get up like the Peanuts Holiday Special and tell me about the Birth of Jesus Christ.

But what I did expect them to do, was talk about the importance of family, and why being with the people you care about is so important... and there was... an attempt at that. But it didn't really land for me.

They didn't even bother to get into how other people celebrate Christmas.

It was all hyping up the commercialism of the Hoilday, and getting excited about that... I understand Gregory, cause he's a literal child... but every single animatronic was either for Christmas or anti Christmas for very commercial reasons.

And what's the crisis.... Roxanne is upset because not everyone likes Christmas and no one is falling into line for her plans for the Holidays... Not everything is about you. Gregory's friends are literally dying and Cassie is mourning her Dad over the holidays.

I thought the special would be about appreciating what you have, even if things don't work out. But no, everything works out and even her estranged father makes up with her for no reason other then because.

Respect for all the voice actors, talent and origination to get the RAGS Christmas Musical together... I just did not care for the plot. And People are free to disagree with me on this... but I found the whole Musical rather shallow and I have seen Hallmark Christmas and Rankinbass Movies with more meat.

I will say.... TSAMS (and MAFS to some extent) did a much better holiday special with far less production... because that's what it's really about, just spending time and exchanging gifts with people who you know care about you. And Earth and Solar experiencing Christmas with others that care about them for the first time and a feeling of warm togetherness and family that wasn't about a big planning or party, while also packing in some of the stressful feeling of the Holidays as well.

And yeah. If Sun was on "Vacation" they could have used this as an opportunity for Solar to be in gaming videos, since Davis himself isn't sick.

We've never seen Solar and Moon play a game together, and I know I'm not the only one asking for it in the official server.

Just involve Solar in more gaming videos. HE ASKED to be in them more. Just DO IT.

#tsams #danachan's asks #danachan's replies #this is so salty #lol I was feeling that salt

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Hellooo, what do you think of the episode "Sun and Moon need to protect Lunar in Vrchat"?

And what do you think Solar said when he was proving to Moon that he isn't Eclipse?

(Idk almost every time they interact I feel a tension between them and that is making me nuts.. are they purposely doing that?)

LIKE RIGHT?

I feel like I'm going insane.

Moon: You and I both have our positive and negitive knowledge, when we do something together… who knows.

Me: AYOOO??? OwO

Plus the excessive censoring when Solar was talking about the first time they met and the long month they spent together.

I don't doubt that long censoring joke was Solar saying Moon said he'd ram a stop sign up Monty's Ass...

BUT WHY DID SOLAR IMPLY THE BUILDUP WITH SUCH FONDNESS??? WHAT DID MOON TEACH HIM HOW TO DO???? IS THIS WHY MOON SAYS HE'S QUESTIONING NOW??? I HAVE QUESTIONS????

sidenote but InvisableDavis has literally liked bruja's art of Ruin x KC on twitter, so it's possible he saw the solarmoon art..... Like. Weird to say cus I don't know the guy personally, but the RuinxKC art wasn't that long ago sandwiched between a lot of solarmoon stuff? Who knows... that's my tinfoil nosiness talking tho

Like I don't need to DO anything?!

The Ship has sailed itself since the two first met and I will stand by that.

#solarmoon #solar x moon #danachan's replies #danachan's asks

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Since Eclipse is back how would things go out in Automaton Heart Au?

I could see Eclipse pretending to be Solar but imagine this. Moon and Solar are dating but didn't tell anyone yet even though it's very obvious. Not to Eclipse though, he just knows they understand each other well.. And wants to take that as an advantage to get into Moon's room as he pretends to be Solar, Moon pulls him aside to talk to him and give him a peck. Eclipse is in total shock while Solar comes back only to see his "clone" and Moon is confused.

Hahahahah

I find that prospect so amusing, because in Automaton Heart AU, Eclipse IS alive.

He's been hiding under Sun's bed.

Yup This whole time.

(slightly related IZ gif cus I couldn't find the specific one I wanted)

And yeah, Sun knows he's there. He just hasn't told Moon exactly about it yet. They have an arrangement.

I guess I'll say some juicy details while being tumblr-appropriate. XD

Sun's room we know exists in the show, as it's been mentioned a few times, but it's never shown. (likely cus they can't think of anything in VR that makes logical sense)

So we know Sun's room is the only place that doesn't have any cameras.

In Automaton Heart AU.

Eclipse didn't die.

He believed to by Solar, and Moon because the blast that destroyed the star in his chest cavity. That would have destroyed nearly anyone.

But it knocked parts of him back. A majority of him was destroyed, but a torso, a hand, and a head/faceplate (with the rays/spikes blown off) managed to lodge deep into the ball pit.

When Moon traveled back to his own dimension, away from Solar's (After Solar yelled at him and punched Moon for not letting him sacrifice himself) Eclipse got teleported back to the main dimension along with Moon.

Waiting at the bottom of the Ballpit.

He wasn't biding his "evil time" or whatever.

He was completely knocked out and his systems failed. He was dead for all intents and purposes.

A few Days later, as Sun is disinfecting the Ball pit, he nearly trips over something.

Sun and Moon never noticed him, because they openly admit on the show to have their Olfactory sensors off, because they're working with Stinky Kids all the time. So they didn't even notice the smells of burnt metal deep within the ballpit, despite parent complaints because they just thought it was "Karen's being Karens" or them having issues with Fazbear or something.

Sun disturbing the charred broken frame of Eclipse (back to SolarFlare's body, because the Eclipse Body was entirely on star power. Just without the head spikes, a torso, and a pretty mangled hand with half his fingers missing) The machine whirrs to life.

Something that Sun is terrified of and didn't think would be physically possible.

Eclipse is motivated simply by anger and spite. As if he was his own ghost in the machine possessing his very being. He is 100% motivated by spite, as he is in all aspects of his life. He has nothing left to give. And he crawls toward Sun, weak, barely able to keep his head above the pit.

He wants to hurt them. He wants to kill them. They did this to them. It's all their fault. It's always been their fault hasn't it?

Eclipse lacks his proper monologuing skills. His voice box is charred. He can't speak but garbled sounds. His mind is too fractured to think properly. All he wants is to cause harm.

He collapses, his damaged claws tearing the edge of Sun's slipper.

And Sun doesn't know what to do.

He could just... Kill him again, but Eclipse is like this now. Sun doesn't even know how the fuck he survived any of that.

He could just kick him into the pit and have the Computer send him to another dimension...

But that doesn't sound right to Sun either.

He could tell Moon, but Moon would just like... find a gun and shoot him point blank at this point. Like putting down an injured animal.

That also doesn't sit right with Sun.

(Sun's Bloodmoon hallucinations/intrusive thoughts are going rampant as he tries to make a discission.)

Sun decides he'll figure out what to do with Eclipse later, and locks him in his room, away from the cameras and away from Moon.

He will tell Moon....

Eventually.

Sun and Eclipse reach a mutually beneficial agreement from this... as Sun agrees to fix Eclipse and give him a new body, as long as Eclipse plans to not hurt his family anymore.

Eclipse hated this, but he "agreed" his logic being that, since he can't make a verbal agreement, he can double cross Sun and kill them all once he's fixed.

But, it takes a long time for Sun to repair him and get parts.

It would go faster with Moon, since Moon has the more logical mind....

But Sun doesn't exactly want to tell his brother yet, as Moon is distracted with Solar, and he seems happy for the first time in a long while. He doesn't want to ruin that by saying "oh you didn't kill Eclipse by the way"

Also, Eclipse Also agrees that he doesn't want help from Moon.

Cue Slowburn in the background of Sun, tenderly taking care of Eclipse. And warming Eclipse on the idea of second chances.

Cue Eclipse not understanding why Sun is bothering with a lost cause of him at this point...

The two actually listening to eachother and enjoying eachother's company.

They don't talk about the past.... not yet.

Eclipse certainly can't...

but he is forced to listen, he can't move... and have someone genuinely caring and looking out for him....

and then they kiss.....

#automaton heart au #tsams au #Sun x Eclipse #Solar x Moon #Solarmoon #SunEclipse #danachan's replies #danachan's asks

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

okaaay....

Maybe I'm overreacting, but after the idea of your AU I now can’t help but think that with all potential of his capabilities Lord Eclipse was going to rebuild Sun from all the other personalities after the attack of the Wither Storm. Not Moon, as his archenemy, not Lunar (given that he designed him, he could very well recreate Lunar again and again if he wanted). But Sun.

And earlier, a year ago, at the first meeting with him, LEclipse said to Lunar: “I found someone that's so much better than you already. And he is a lot like me”. But the only one we saw near him was Sun again.

I don't know why I'm buzzing about all this here. Just know that your ideas sit on the edge of my consciousness and resonate from time to time.

Yeah right?

I was thinking about that.

God Eclipse doesn't seem like he killed his own Sun.

If anything, it sounds like Sun died trying to protect his Lord Eclipse and Eclipse harbors guilt for it.

Out of anyone, he wants to rebuild Sun as many times as it takes.

He does care in his own weird way.

Also if you reframe the context of the last time we saw Servant Sun, he seemed to fear Moon.

Because of who he is, and that Moon would kill him and that Moon would kill his Lord.

He was scared of Eclipse's punishment too, and seems severely brainwashed...

But if you remember how Sun and Moon used to be, their relationship wasn't that great. Maybe Eclipse reframed his killing of Moon as saving Sun from a life of torture.

Lord Eclipse and Sun had something going on that I think that goes beyond of what the show is willing to show.

Not that it is manipulative and abusive, cause it is.

But it's very codependent.

Eclipse only wants to rebuild Sun and no one else and seems to genuinely care that he's dead.

That says a lot.

#fnaf #tsams #danachan's asks #danachan's replies #okay this can go in the main tag

[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Is it me, or does Steel Wool see moon as ONLY A BAD GUY. Now I understand that I can totally ignore Canon but I a strong feeling evey since ruin and security breach

That's a possiblity.

But when have we ever had a "good" animatronic in fnaf?

(maybe the Puppet but the Puppet is still killing night guards, and caused me so much problems in fnaf3)

To me it almost feels like Steel Wool saw that Sun and Moon were a fan favorite and just kinda started putting them in everything. As I thought the Ruin Section was kinda weird.

You're in Monty Golf to go to the Daycare to go Back to Monty Golf again???? There's no reason for the Daycare Detour other then just to put a "good" Sun Moment in there.

I don't think Sun is a bad guy. He has a short fuze and is overly dramatic but we know for 100%...

JUMPSCARE DOES NOT EQUAL DEATH WITH SUN/MOON.

Cause if they kill you in this level (Sun or Moon)

Sun says: "oh joy, you're back"

Meaning he remembers you from before.

There's also the possibility that Help Wanted 2 is like "based on rumors" like the first Help wanted was. So maybe this is just a VR version of Sun that the Parents think made their child pee themselves.

Who knows man.

I haven't seen the full playthrough yet so I don't know the overall context of the game.

I am just happy that Sun has more depth to him and I keep forgetting he's like this. I feel reborn.

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[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

I have a question about Solar x Moon. Wouldn’t they technically be adoptive siblings since Solar is part of their family now? Just curious is all since I saw someone point it out.

I have no idea.

They're robots.

Technically, Solar spawned from Sun and Moon from another dimension, so that would be their son.

Even Earth said he would technically be their nephew, which Solar and Earth agreed was both weird for them.

Which Solar denied and didn't want to be viewed that way.

He only called himself "the gay cousin" cause Earth insisted on putting him on the family tree in the first place.

I think in the latest LAES episode (idk I haven't watched it) Lunar basically said: "a puesdo-brother? idk what he is to us."

I'm not saying that Solar isn't a member of the family. He is welcome here and this is his new home now, and his relationship with each member of the Celestial Family differs.

I feel giving traditional titles in found family units kinda defeats the purpose of a found family unit in the first place. Especially given that they are all robots.

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[dana-chan-the-control-brain]

Wish there were more people like you who were open to exploring dynamics between two characters in an alternate universe where they are not bound by familial relationship/title or whatever it's called. I get it tsams/tlaes have a lot of family things going on and a-specs things but eh what do I expect from a fandom that started the hate on sunxmoon shippers? I'll continue shipping sunxmoon, eclipsexsun, solarxmoon and solarxearth(thanks to that one anon from before for introducing me to this) not as family related, and the fandom can suck it

Honestly.

Like one person told me "Moon and Solar are brothers" once.

And?..

They're not.

That's like saying Ink and Dream or something from the Undertale Au verse are brothers cause they're alternate realities of eachother and people ship them all the time???

"but they have the same face"

So???

So does Lolbit and Funtime Foxy. They're a couple in SBshow verse.

Mickey and Minnie mouse have the same face and no one raises stink about the most classic example of same face syndrome.

They're robots and I think physical appearance matters very little to them in the grand scheme of things. But that might just be my demisexual ass talking.

On a side note, I know the VA for Earth, Aka: Kat has been very "ship and let ship" with the fandom. And I think that's why in the Solar therapy session, she clarified that she knows Solar isn't biologically related. Technically none of them are, she just wants to consider him part of the family.

I remember awhile back the fandom was so hostile to people who saw Lunar as an adult and would draw him in adult situations. (Like taxes/half joking you know what I mean)

And I believe that was the last big drama the actors like Davis was directly involved in before he took a step back from that and told the fandom to sort it out themselves. And I really don't blame him. There are people who are crazy and just feel entitled to things.

And in more recent episodes, Lunar has stated more frequently that he is an adult animatronic of sound mind who can make his own decisions, so that they can put that issue to bed with the discourse.

(I personally think that gen1/2 Lunar was very much a kid psychology and through the course of the course of the show, and due to his experiences and truama he grows up in two years and he's a young adult now. This reflects in every time he has a model change or appearance.)

See this is what I mean when I say they are robots. Robots can grow up from 13 to 24 (approximately) in the span of two years. Robots can change their mind about family dynamics and say "you know what I think that i don't feel like a cousin, as what I feel for Moon is more intense then familiar bonds. So I change my mind." And this is allowed. This is allowed. Like I would not think this way about human characters.

People in the transformers fandom are really familiar with this concept as well. At least the few people I talk to from an outsider perspective. The transformers robots change their relationships in canon to eachother all the time from what I hear.

And yes. I know tsams is focused on themes of family and found family and togetherness. Like I'm not media illiterate. I know what one of the themes are. For some reason, people think I don't know tsams is about family.

Like bruh.

This whole show took two years for them to build the family and support network they all have with eachother when before the show was a toxic family relationship with Sun and Moon only. And I think it's beautiful how it evolved and how many characters there are and how big the family is now!

It's great!

And I do separate in my brain what's going on in canon and what's going on in my shipping brain.

This doesn't mean I can have fun on the side. With silly speculations and silly headcanons.

Giggling to myself and twirling my hair about the "what ifs" and aus

Staying out of the main tags and talking to my own friends with my own company.

While also analyzing the show and leaving tsams lots of long lovely YouTube comments about what the show is actually about.

Also. Consider this.

Since the multiverse is canon in tsams, in definition, by their own rules, there is a universe where everything in tsams is the same, except your ship is canon.

Evil!Sun even said that Sun and Moon being brothers is more rare across dimensions then we initially assumed.

So they're either enemies, strangers, they killed eachother, or something else.

They only are brothers after their canon event of separating and agreeing to work together. So there are some universes where that never happened.

Meaning most likely that our Moon's portal runs on a central finite curve.

So take that as you will.

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