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madamhatter · 3 years

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👫 (For the defeatest Hatter and the non-defeatist Princess)

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In the world of politics and power, bachleorettes and bachleors are amongst the most viable tools for families of influence, be if it they are heirs to the throne or company. Heartlessly, but truthfully, these young lives are seen as pawns in certain eyes, belonging to strangers or their families. Sonia Nevermind, the sitting and only heiress to the Novoselic Throne, is a particular jewel that many want to acquire. An arranged marriage with the princess is something that many within her social circle would die of achieving. And, most would go through any means to get what they’d like to get close with the princess. Enter Sophie Hatter, known childhood friend to the princess. Acting as a substitute and leading force for her family’s name, Sophie has been one who has been franternized with frequently. Most have dubious intentions and ulterior motives, nothing that shocks the heiress too much, knowing people desire something out of commonly commodified women. Those who attempt to reach Sonia through Sophie, thinking it is the easiest method, would surely mistakened. With callous and calculative mind, Sophie has quietly and secretly dissuaded suitors from the young princess and allegedly had her hand in meddling with situations she deemed as problematic and unfit for her best friend. (Why? Maybe out of deep-seeded jealousy) Someone overly warm and attempting to the harpoon the princess’s attention and her parents’ approval from one party would be whipped and coasting away the Nevermind family by the next party. Sonia can certainly see and reason why there are sudden shifts in attitudes, always vigilant from her position and moving herself with precision to be the proper picture for the Novoselic Kingdom. Though as far as knowing the exact details for some of the cases, she may be very well in the dark. Sophie wouldn’t share exact details and feign ignorance on the situation, making a dry comment about how “the men we see as capricious act like that because they’re remarkably childish about not getting what they want.” TLDR; Sophie gets protective and gets her hands dirty when people approach her with intentions to get closer to Sonia’s social circle. Sonia is aware of the discrepancy with these people and their interactions between events, but may not piece together why the reason is (or if there’s even a culprit on the matter).

The contrast between younger and older Sophie is absolutely drastic for Sonia, something that saddens, but also frustrates, her. Though, there are silver linings that the young princess sees when there are ‘callbacks’ to how the original Sophie was like her accent slipping when she’s very excited or very angry or how forward she can be to act, if not too recklessly and not caring for her safety (i.e, getting into a fight). While a lot more of their intimacy is limited in public, there’s a clear presence of their former affections with another (Sophie being admittedly touchier in private, as Sonia is quite happy to reciprocate, but the seamstress distances herself as quickly). In a way, their interactions have been modified by Sophie’s choice, but there’s still a substantial amount of familiarity of what they’ve done as children. One example is how Sophie could and will pick up Sonia whenever the young princess is inebirated or getting into a situation when it’s the two of them. Formal apology letters aside, the seamstress works in mitigating any potential catatrophy that comes with being a 77-B student or someone’s breath is heavy with expensive wine. Sonia, when intoxicated, is more than happy to be affectionate and touchy, which Sophie secretly doesn’t mind. Sonia, when not intoxicated, is not at all happy with the literal hurdle her friend presents herself as. Though, being lifted and carried away by your best friend, who might’ve had a life-long crush on... Hmmm, doesn’t sound so bad- Oh, and you’re taking me away from Kazuichi too? Perfect!

Impervious Sophie Hatter does not exist within any proximity of Sonia Nevermind; it is quite hard for Sophie already to keep herself acting properly and in “her rank” with the princess. Queen Valentina, after all, entrusted her with her daughter in a way, and with how duty-driven as Sophie is, she takes the task very personally. Add on the unspoken feelings and tension, it is overly amplified and acted on by the seamstress. Sonia has a way of getting under Sophie’s skin in a way that relaxes her but frightens her. Really, something that Sonia brings up from their childhood (”we still have matching ribbons you made for us, look!” and a “Do you remember when-- [cute memory that is embarrassing for Sophie inserted here]”) would get Sophie shyly looking away and covering her face. Sonia could be suddenly approaching her from the side and get dominantly affectionate and Sophie doesn’t give her usual response (stone-cold stare and unimpressed look). She ends up relatively aloof and even blushing to the point that she may actually whine at her -- but, this of course, is rare when Sophie isn’t drilling herself to be “dutiful.” Having so much history together means Sonia is at the biggest advantage to get past the walls around Sophie. Sonia is Sophie’s blindspot as much as Sophie is Sonia’s blindspot.

Sophie is one of the unironic enthusiasts for Sophie’s occultist and horror(ific) interests. She would as easily stayed with a skeptical expression but her words are the complete opposite because she will give reasonable and provide academic information for Sonia’s questions and assertions; whether they support or don’t support them is another question. Though, it can be clear that Sophie would speak to not dissuade Sonia, but provide another avenue to look into (i.e., “Though that may not hold water, did you know back in-”). Girl would even spit out some Latin and help Sonia come up with a chant if she needs one. Lord, Sophie would even suggest and recommend areas to explore and investigate with Sonia. She has full-heartedly volunteered herself (but masks it as obligation/”you shouldn’t go out by yourself to a place you’ve never been to..”) to go ... while also having directly conflicting views (i.e., Sophie’s afraid of ghosts while claiming skeptic). Sophie might’ve almost also fought (or threatened to fight) a ghost if she believed in any way one was attempting harm towards Sonia. Either way, Sonia has her assistant on the side who’ll help gather evidence or hand her equipment, even if she may be the kind-of Shane to her Ryan (Buzzfeed Unsolved).

EXTRA:

(SPOILERS FOR THE HAUNTING OF BLY MANOR AND DANIELLE, DO NOT LOOK AHEAD) While I cannot find this scene on YouTube, here is a clip from The Haunting of Bly Manor that I believe perfectly catches the very gentle, but subdued, flirtations Sonia and Sophie make at another. Mainly, what Sophie would do during any consultation with her ‘best friend’ while both of their mothers converse: https://twitter.com/Most/status/1319707472333049859?s=20.

Sophie regularly cooks and bakes not only for Sonia, but with Sonia. The whole event is chaotic, messy, and a disaster waiting to happen, but Sophie is remarkably calm about the situation and doesn’t see it as the worst situation. Putting together what Sonia sees in her mind and then actually making it is a challenge, but Sophie enjoys building that bridge. Even if the oven ends up spewing fire or the dough ends up flung out of the kitchen, that doesn’t concern Sophie (she’ll clean up it, either way). Sonia’s mess is Sophie’s favorite mess, it is passionate and unrestraint, wild yet refined.

A lot of Sophie’s clothes are for Sonia to use. Like, I am not joking, Sophie will willingly part with her jackets and shirts for her without a second thought and it is usually for lounge wear. Sophie will deny it, but she very much enjoys seeing her best friend in her clothes and she will swat away the other thoughts that come with up. She ends up a little up grumpy about it and won’t explain to Sonia why she was acting so scatter-brained earlier when Sonia was in a knee-high and jacket combination.

I am so sorry but Sophie would tease her so much and she might enjoy a frustrated and demanding Sonia. Her usuals to do are kissing a little too close to Sonia’s lips, but not quite directly; brushing the blonde hair away from her neck and scrutinizing a particular area, and if Sonia asks, she’ll brush her thumb there and remark how she “spotted something”; keeping Sonia sturdy and balanced by putting her hands on her shoulders or hips; incidentally making contact and then Sophie leans in like “What?” with a raised brow before pulling away--. Quite a bit and then there’s the matter of nsfw teasing and leaving Sonia frustrated even more.

UH, Sonia might enjoy knowing that Sophie does have a work-out regiment and is quite flexible! Problem is how to catch the reclusive nitwit in the gym or actually showing off her firm and defined arms and back shoulders. Sonia already knows Sophie has some muscle on her, so it would only be natural to wonder how she developed/trained herself.

Pocky game + them? Terrible, absolutely terrible. Stubborn competitors who would not stop eating the stick and it’s quite a scene with either one of top of the other. Can happen in the dormitory’s living space and it is usually brushed off as Sophie being too stubborn to let go. Sometimes, some of the boys do stare and Sophie will break the kissing game and bluntly go, “Can you see were trying to finish a game?”

#( checkbooks inquiries and much ; answered asks )#( allow me to dismantle these facades ; loosen the porcelain mask of a smile ; and let me taste rebellion upon thy lips. | sonia && sophie )#( in which we learn about the eldest ; headcanons )#morethanaprincess #long post tw #long post

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mydarlingfelix · 6 years

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Get to know me tag(s)!

Tagged by: @hyunjinh @felox-the-great @jaeffreyy @squishywoojin @welcometochanskitchen @dabkingfelix @mosquitofelix

Hi! I’m Summer btw (Ik it’s not in my bio), but I just go by Sum or other nicknames lol *I also just put multiple “get to know me” tags in 1 lol THIS IS A SUPER LONG POST IM SORRY However thank you for tagging me!! I Love you all soOoOo much!

Bold Thingy Tag

1ST RULE: tag 9 people you want to get to know better

I think everyone done this already fkjdjgb

2ND RULE: BOLD the statements that are true.

APPEARANCE: - I am 5'7 or taller - I wear glasses - I have at least one tattoo -I have at least one piercing - I have blonde hair - I have brown eyes - I have short hair (idk it’s growing) - My abs are at least somewhat defined - I have or had braces

PERSONALITY: - I love meeting new people - People tell me I am funny - Helping others with their problems is a big priority of mine - I enjoy physical challenges - I enjoy mental challenges - I am playfully rude to people I know - I started saying something ironically and now I can’t stop saying it - There is something I would change about my personality

ABILITY: - I can sing well - I can play an instrument - I can do over 30 pushups without stopping - I am a fast runner - I can draw well - I have a good memory - I am good at doing maths in my head - I can hold my breath underwater for over a minute - I have beaten at least 2 people arm wrestling - I can make at least 3 recipes from scratch - I know how to throw a proper punch

HOBBIES: - I enjoy sports - I’m on a sports team at my school or somewhere else - I’m in a orchestra or choir at my school or somewhere else - I have learned a new song in the past week - I exercise at least once a week - I have gone for runs at least once a week in warmer months - I have drawn something in the past month (Lucy wanted to be drawn for her bday and I did a watercolor portrait thing ig? for her) - I enjoy writing - Fandoms are my #1 priority- I do some form of Martial arts

EXPERIENCES: - I have had my first kiss - I have had alcohol- I have scored a winning point in a sport - I have watched an entire TV series in one sitting - I have been at an overnight event- I have been in a taxi - I have been in the hospital or ER in the past year - I have beaten a video game in one day - I have visited another country - I have been to one of my favorite band’s concerts

MY LIFE: - I have one person that I consider to be my Best Friend - I live close to my school/work - My parents are still together - I have at least one sibling (I have like 5)- I live in the United States - There is snow where I live right now - I have hung out with a friend in the past month - I have a smart phone - I own at least 15 CDs - I share my room with someone

RELATIONSHIPS: - I am in a Relationship - I have a crush on a celebrity (?) - I have a crush on someone I know - I’ve been in at least 3 relationships - I have never been in a Relationship (not a healthy one at least)- I have admitted my feelings to a crush - I get crushes easily (It’s disgusting, wtf is wrong with me. I don’t need feels) - I have had a crush for over a year (Umm kinda he’s just really really cute. I talked to Dain about this before) - I have been in a relationship for over a year (but not currently) - I have had feelings for a friend

RANDOM: - I have break-danced - I know a person named Jamie - I have had a teacher that has a name that is hard to pronounce - I have dyed my hair - I’m listening to a song on repeat right now - I have punched someone in the past week - I know someone who has gone to jail - I have broken a bone - I have eaten a waffle today - I know what I want to do in life - I speak at least two languages - I have made a new friend in the past year

Alphabet Soup Tag

A: Age - “I’m 19, you fight me?” B: Birthplace - Cali C: Current time - As I’m during this 1:26pm D: Drink you had last - Water, but also Thai Tea Boba E: Easiest person to talk to - F: Favorite song - None G: Grossest memory - My cousin’s and I were doing a auntie and niece day and went theMall and I saw this girl throw up on the second floor in Forever 21. I felt sorry for the workers... H: Hogwarts house - G I: in love? - nah, never gonna happen J: Jealous of people? - It’s only a human aspect, you’re only truly horrible if you do something nasty to others because of that feeling K: Killed someone? - Not yet lmfao L: Love at first sight or should I walk by again? - No thank you M: Middle name - Summer N: Number of siblings - 5 O: One wish - None P: Person you called last - My mom Q: Question you are always asked - Idk tbvh R: Reason to smile - Idk things make me happy S: Song you sang last - The Unit No way (I dont remember the unit colors) T: Time you woke up - 6:43am U: Underwear color - White V: Vacation destination - South Korea, Japan, & idk the other one, but honestly my goal is to visit all my mutuals before I died lmfaooo W: Worst habit - Not caring, sleeping in, getting distracted easily, being anixious all the time. X: X-rays - Teeth Y: Your favorite food - I have a lot... Z: Zodiac sign - Gemini

🥛 Colour(s) I’m currently wearing: Black... Just a lot of black (I need to stop wearing sm black omg) 🍥 Last band t-shirt I bought: I don’t ever buy clothes for myself, idk when was last time? Maybe during the Got7 concert? 🥛 Last band I saw live: Got7 (Fly In LA: Day 1) and Paradise (A Hmong Band) 🍥 Last song I listened to: Rn I’m listening to The Unit’s Cherry on Top 🥛 Lipstick or chapstick: Idk... I wear lip tints. 🍥 Last movie I watched: Ever Wonder? (idk it’s a true story about the creation of wonder women) 🥛 Last 3 TV shows I watched: Wanna One Go, Wanna One x Aimgo TV, and The Unit 🍥 Last 3 characters I identified with: Kora, Steven Universe, & Ken Kaneki (idk for this part, I never thought about this fkdfdkgd) 🥛 Book I’m currently reading: Books for my classes njfdkjd

What’s my name? (Imma just put my initials)

M. S. L.

What’s my nickname?

Sum, SumSum, SumShine, Summahh Girl, Tsumdere, Chee,

How old am I?

“I’m 19, you fight me?”

What got me into Kpop?

SJ- Sorry Sorry, but Got7 made me offically stay and learning everything about the kpop fandom

What’s my favourite Kpop group?

Rn W1 (the most)

Who’s my ultimate bias?

Park Jihoon

What groups/artists do I stan?

Too many to count, you all can ask my personally if you want lol

What groups/artists do I casually listen to?

A lot, I try to be diverse, but what’s good music is good music to me. Feel free to suggest me some :D

What artists do I listen to that aren’t Kpop?

Ahh I’m lazy, but just good sounding music. Calvin Harris just popped up in my head. fknfkjskfnj

Who’s my bias and bias wrecker from my ultimate group(s)?

Omfg

Wanna One: Park Jihoon & Kang Daniel

JBJ: Kim Donghan & ??? (They’re all messing me up rn)

SK: Felix & I think Hyunjin? Idk

What’s your favourite song(s) to sing/hum?

It’s recently been Chungha’s roller coaster lol and The Unit songs

What are your favourite flower/tree/plant (all 3 or whatever you have an answer to)?

I really love plants and flowers in general, however Peonies are one of my many faves!!

Favourite colour(s)?

Pink, blue, purple, black, white, and gray

What do you always doodle (if you ever do)?

Umm yeah I always doodling, but I try not to because I want to be able to focus in class haha.

How do you take your coffee/tea? If you don’t like those what’s your fav warm drink?

It probably like 20% coffee and 80% french vanilla cream nfksjfgsbjg sometimes I add a lil milk too

Favourite candle scent?

Anything flowery, but i really like sweet pea smell lol. I don’t any candles yet, so I don’t quite know which I like more yet. Soorrryy

Sunrise or Sunset?

Sunset! The colors are soo pretty and like it doesn’t require me to wake up from my sleep lmfao. The transitions of day and night it just so beautiful! and the stars that start peeking through the dark sky!

What perfume do you wear if any?

I don’t wear perfume? I have them at home but in my opinion I feel like if you’ve showered and smell nice why try to mix more scents onto you?? and I don’t really need it? DONT WORRY I AM CLEAN NFJSNJF idk if I make any sense

What’s your go to dance move when you’re alone?

Favourite quote?

“The moon is friend for the lonesome to talk to.” ― Carl Sandburg

& “We ran as if to meet the moon.” ― Robert Frost

& also

“The moon and stars just for you my love” - Me lol

Favourite self care thing(s) or routine(s)?

Umm... Drawing. Showering and putting a face mask afterwards. Painting my nails. It’s more like small things, especially like painting my nails and drawings are things I can’t do often because I try to focus on school, because ik I’m bad at focusing. Sleeping and reminding to just eat, when I get too busy and focused I tend to skip meals. njfkdsnfj s

Fuzzy socks or House slippers?

OMFG BOTH THAT’S LIKE THE BEST COMBO! I have these pinky and purple house slippers I got aND IT’S FUZZY KSFJ SK IT’S SOOO CUTE OMG!! I love. nfjdnfd

What colour are your eyes?

Dark Brown

What’s your favourite eye colour on others?

Hazel, black, and gray

Favourite season? why?

Autumn and Winter (Ik contradicts with my name) but I love the rain! and cloudy weather! The sound of rain is calming and being inside while hearing the rain is nice. I really love Spring too when the flowers begin to bloom and like it’s a fresh type of feeling when spring hits lol.

Cheek, neck or nose kisses?

SJFNKFS Honestly depends on my mood (´•/// ω \\\•`) but I like cheek kisses because softtt

What does your happy place look like?

My room on a rainy day with my fairy lights flickering

Favourite breed of dog?

YO OKAY SO I SAW THIS FB POST ABOUT THIS DOG BEAR AND I WANT A DOG BEAR IDK WHAT THEY’RE CALLED JKFDFHKSF. My dad is a dog breeder as a side business, so I grew up with pitbulls, pocket pits, american bull dogs, frenches, and now ‘exotics’ are the trend atm.

Do you ever want to be married? If so what colours would you pick for your wedding theme?

Umm yes and no? I’m not sure. If I have an American wedding I like to stick to a traditional white with maybe a peach and light pink here and there, but for sure I would love to do a traditional Hmong wedding.

Silk or Lace?

Silk feels nice, but I like lace too :)

Favorite weather?

SF type of weather

#tag game // done #get to know me tag #omfg i have sm tags to do jfdkgf dkg #this has been long over due #nbfjdkbgfjd #sorry

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US to resume federal executions after 17-year hiatus | USA News

The United States federal government is set to carry out the first federal execution in 17 years on Monday, despite the objection of the family of the victims and after a volley of legal proceedings over the coronavirus pandemic.

Daniel Lewis Lee, of Yukon, Oklahoma, is scheduled to die by lethal injection at 4pm (20:00 GMT) on Monday at a federal prison in Indiana. He was convicted in Arkansas of the 1996 killings of gun dealer William Mueller, his wife, Nancy, and her 8-year-old daughter, Sarah Powell.

The execution, the first of a federal death row inmate since 2003, comes after a federal appeals court lifted an injunction on Sunday that had been put in place last week after the victims’ family argued they would be put at high risk for the coronavirus if they had to travel to attend the execution. The family had vowed to appeal to the Supreme Court.

#KareemJohnson has officially been exonerated in #Pennsylvania, bringing to 170 the number of documented U.S. death-row exonerations since 1973. Here is our map of where and when they happened. https://t.co/L7l4RCpocG #deathpenalty pic.twitter.com/ToPbh6m7wy

— DeathPenaltyInfoCtr (@DPInfoCtr) July 2, 2020

The decision to move forward with the execution – and two others scheduled later in the week – during a global health pandemic that has killed more than 135,000 people in the US and is ravaging prisons nationwide, drew scrutiny from civil rights groups and the family of Lee’s victims.

The decision has been criticised as a dangerous and political move. Critics argue that the government is creating an unnecessary and manufactured urgency around a topic that is not high on the list of American concerns right now. It is also likely to add a new front to the national conversation about criminal justice reform in the lead-up to the 2020 elections.

In an interview with The Associated Press last week, Attorney General William Barr said the Justice Department had a duty to carry out the sentences imposed by the courts, including the death penalty, and to bring a sense of closure to the victims and those in the communities where the killings happened.

But relatives of those killed by Lee strongly oppose that idea. They wanted to be present to counter any contention that it was being done on their behalf.

“For us it is a matter of being there and saying, ‘This is not being done in our name; we do not want this,'” said relative Monica Veillette.

The relatives would be travelling thousands of miles and witnessing the execution in a small room where the social distancing recommended to prevent the virus’s spread is virtually impossible. The federal prison system has struggled in recent months to contain the exploding number of coronavirus cases behind bars. There are currently four confirmed coronavirus cases among inmates at the Terre Haute prison, according to federal statistics, and one inmate there has died.

“The federal government has put this family in the untenable position of choosing between their right to witness Danny Lee’s execution and their own health and safety,” the family’s attorney, Baker Kurrus, said on Sunday.

Barr said he believes the Bureau of Prisons could “carry out these executions without being at risk”. The agency has put a number of additional measures in place, including temperature checks and requiring witnesses to wear masks.

On Sunday, the Justice Department disclosed that a staff member involved in preparing for the execution had tested positive for the coronavirus, but said he had not been in the execution chamber and had not come into contact with anyone on the specialised team sent to the prison to handle the execution.

The victim’s family hopes there won’t be an execution, ever. They have asked the Justice Department and President Donald Trump not to move forward with the execution and have long asked that Lee be given a life sentence instead.

The last person executed by the federal government was Louis Jones Jr, a US Army soldier put to death in 2003 after he was convicted of the rape and murder of another soldier. He was one of three individuals executed during George W Bush’s presidency; before Bush no federal inmates had been put to death since 1963.

But before the pandemic, the economy and healthcare were Americans’ top priorities for the government to work on in 2020, with 59 percent and 50 percent naming the two, respectively, in an open-ended question in an Associated Press-NORC poll from December. Some 35 percent said immigration was one of the most important issues the government should work on in 2020, and about as many referenced politics or partisan gridlock.

1,000-Plus Religious Leaders Ask Attorney General Barr to Focus on Life, Not Federal Executions https://t.co/2Lio0a5FA3 pic.twitter.com/YjCHDY9zB7

— Law & Crime (@lawcrimenews) July 7, 2020

The percentage of Americans in favour of the death penalty stood at 60 percent in the 2018 General Social Survey, a long-running trends survey. That is about where it was in the 1970s. Support has steadily ticked back down after peaking at 75 percent in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

Most Democrats oppose it. By contrast, President Donald Trump has spoken often about capital punishment and his belief that executions serve as an effective deterrent and an appropriate punishment for some crimes, including mass shootings and the killings of police officers.

“This appears to be a distraction,” said Samuel Spital, the litigation director of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund. There are several things that should be at the top of the agenda for the Justice Department right now, he said, including the coronavirus. Another “should be an effort to address the widespread problem of police violence against Black and brown communities in this country which has finally captured the public’s attention”, he said.

A gurney at a jail in Huntsville, Texas where executions take place. [File: Pat Sullivan/AP Photo]

The majority of people on death row are Black and Hispanic, and the number of cases authorised by the attorney general seeking death since the late 1980s are mostly non-white people.

But the three men chosen to die this week are all white:

Danny Lee, who was convicted in Arkansas of killing a family of three, including an 8-year-old. Family members of Lee’s victims have asked a federal judge to delay his execution, saying the coronavirus puts them at risk if they travel to attend the execution. They have asked that the execution be put off until a treatment or a vaccine is available for the virus.

Wesley Ira Purkey, of Kansas, who raped and murdered a 16-year-old girl and killed an 80-year-old woman.

Dustin Lee Honken, who killed five people in Iowa, including two children.

Inside Story Americas – The law of executions (25:03)

The Justice Department had scheduled five executions set to begin in December, but some of the inmates challenged the new procedures in court, arguing that the government was circumventing proper methods in order to wrongly execute inmates quickly.

Executions on the federal level have been rare and the government has put to death only three defendants since restoring the federal death penalty in 1988 — most recently in 2003, when Jones was executed. Though there has not been a federal execution since then, the Justice Department has continued to approve death penalty prosecutions and federal courts have sentenced defendants to death.

In 2014, following a botched state execution in Oklahoma, President Barack Obama directed the Justice Department to conduct a broad review of capital punishment and issues surrounding lethal injection drugs.

The attorney general said last July that the Obama-era review had been completed, clearing the way for executions to resume. He approved a new procedure for lethal injections that replaces the three-drug combination previously used in federal executions with one drug, pentobarbital. This is similar to the procedure used in several states, including Georgia, Missouri and Texas, but not all.

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Water and #COVID19 – are pools, beaches and lakes safe?

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In the midst of the pandemic, will it be safe to swim at your favorite, pool, lake or beach? Is water safe during the COVID-19 crisis?

We consulted with experts to give you answers.

Is it safe to swim during COVID?

The first thing to know is that there is no evidence that the virus that causes COVID-19 spreads through water in pools, hot tubs, spas or water play areas, according to experts at the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

That’s because disinfectants used to clean water – including chlorine and bromine – should kill the virus that causes COVID-19.

The potential for COVID-19 to spread at pools, lakes and beaches relates to crowds attracted to these places. The virus can spread from person to person on the deck of the pool or as children and adults play and relax at beaches and lakes.

“It’s really the close contact with people – whether in the water or on land – that’s the concern,” said Dr. Daniel Pastula, a UCHealth neuro-infectious disease expert.

“Without proper social distancing, a water park or a pool might be a high-risk scenario. It’s not the risk of the water itself. It’s the density of people. And, it’s hard to wear a cloth mask when it’s soaked,” said Pastula, who is also an associate professor of neurology, infectious diseases and epidemiology for the University of Colorado School of Medicine and the Colorado School of Public Health.

The second thing to know is that local public health departments will be working with recreation managers to make decisions about whether to open pools, lakes and beaches for the public. As you make your plans this summer, be sure to follow the guidance of your local public health authorities as they work to keep you safe during very challenging times.

Pastula and his colleague, Dr. Lakshmi Chauhan, who specializes in infectious diseases, and is an assistant professor at the University of Colorado School of Medicine, shared their knowledge about infectious diseases and water so you can stay safe from COVID-19 this summer.

Is drinking water safe?

Yes. The virus that causes COVID-19, SARS-CoV-2, has not been detected in drinking water, according to the CDC.

“Conventional water treatment methods that use filtration and disinfection, such as those in most municipal drinking water systems, should remove or inactivate the virus that causes COVID-19,” CDC experts say.

“As far as we know, drinking water is very, very safe,” Pastula said.

Does the virus that causes COVID-19 spread through water in swimming pools?

No. As far as experts know, there has been no transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19 through water in pools or hot tubs as long as they are properly maintained and disinfected.

Unlike bacteria, which can survive in water that is not properly cleaned, viruses don’t survive well on their own in water, in the air or on surfaces.

“Viruses are just a strand of RNA or DNA. They need a host to survive,” Chauhan said.

Some illnesses like cholera and typhoid can be transmitted through water, but these are bacterial infections. COVID-19 is a viral infection transmitted primarily through droplets when people cough or sneeze.

“This is a respiratory virus,” Chauhan said. “It’s unusual for respiratory viruses to be transmitted in water.”

Does the virus spread in saltwater pools?

No. If these pools are working properly, they use filtration systems that convert salt into chlorine which dissolves in water to keep the pool safe.

Do you have to practice social distancing in water to stay safe?

Yes. “If you’re swimming and a person near you coughs, you could inhale their droplets. That could spread the virus,” Pastula said.

Added Chauhan: “The safety measures at a pool are the same physical distancing measures we’ve been talking about for everywhere else. The major mode of transmission is person to person.

“If you’re in a recreational environment, maintaining distancing may become harder So, avoiding crowded pools and beaches would be a good idea until the pandemic subsides,” Chauhan said.

Are lakes and ocean water safe from the virus that causes COVID-19?

Yes, the water in lakes and the ocean should be safe since the virus that causes COVID-19 is not transmitted in water. The same concerns about social distancing and hand hygiene apply at lakes and beaches, just like they do at pools or other places where people gather.

Swimming in the ocean should be safe during the COVID-19 pandemic. But crowds on the beach could be a problem. Photo: Getty Images per UCHEALTH.

Does the virus that causes COVID-19 spread through human waste?

Researchers have found evidence of the virus in untreated sewage. In fact, scientists who are testing sewage are finding that the virus shows up in sewage before increased rates of infection emerge from testing or hospital admissions. Researchers believe that’s because the virus shows up in fecal matter before people seek medical treatment for COVID-19. Still, there is no evidence that people are becoming infected in the U.S. through raw sewage.

“Even though we think that urine and stools may carry some of the coronavirus, we don’t have enough data to say whether it can be infectious,” Chauhan said.

As always, people should wash their hands very thoroughly with soap and water after going to the bathroom and should wash their hands multiple times throughout the day.

And, advises Pastula: never swim in a bay or body of water close to a sewage discharge site.

“Swimming near untreated wastewater is never a good idea given the risk of multiple different pathogens,” Pastula said. “Treated wastewater should lower the risk of infections. And, there’s no evidence of transmission of the virus that causes COVID-19 through treated wastewater.”

I have my own pool or hot tub. Is it safe?

Yes. As long as you are properly maintaining and disinfecting your pool or hot-tub, it should be safe.

But, says Pastula, 2020 might not be the year to host large pool parties.

“If you have your own pool and members of your household are playing in it and you are properly cleaning and treating it, then it’s probably low risk,” he said.

Will public pools be safe?

If public pools open at all during 2020, pool managers will have to limit crowds and visitors will have to practice social distancing by staying at least 6 feet apart. Otherwise, public pools won’t be safe.

“A crowded public pool or crowded water park would be higher risk and may not be possible this summer,” Pastula said. “Always defer to local public health guidelines.”

Are water sports like paddle-boarding and sailing safe?

“If state and local health authorities allow it and you’re able to maintain social distance and practice all good COVID-19 prevention measures, I would think paddle boarding would be a low-risk situation,” Pastula said.

He likened paddle boarding to going on a walk in a remote area by yourself.

If you have your own board and a place to go where you do not need to be around crowds, then you should be fine.

If you need to rent a paddle board or sailboat, you would need to keep your distance from workers, wear a mask and be sure to sanitize your hands or any shared equipment that your hands touch, like paddles, oars or a boat.

The same guidance applies with recreation as it does in other scenarios, like grocery shopping. Think about objects your hands are touching.

“You need to clean frequently-touched surfaces. You want to wash your hands and avoid touching your face.

“Any frequently-touched objects that are shared could be a source of infection,” Pastula said.

“You have to break the cycle of transmission. The object would need to have the virus on it. You would need to touch that object with your hand, then touch your mouth, nose or eyes.”

Are beaches safe?

As long as state and local authorities have opened beaches for recreation, swimming in the ocean should be a low-risk activity. Of course, you need to be a strong swimmer to venture into the ocean and you should always be aware of dangerous currents, like riptides, that can pull swimmers away from shore where they can become exhausted and drown. In many coastal areas, health officials are allowing people to walk on beaches or swim or surf. But they are asking people not to congregate in groups on land.

“Gathering at crowded beaches is not a good scenario,” Pastula said. “When you’re close to someone who is mildly symptomatic or asymptomatic, you could inhale droplets and become infected.

“That’s why state and local authorities are recommending cloth masks in public spaces. Masks do not really protect you. They protect others from you,” Pastula said.

Am I less likely to get the virus outside than inside?

Yes. Health experts believe you are much more likely to get the virus if you’re spending time indoors. The longer you spend at an establishment inside – like a restaurant, grocery store or nail or hair salon – the greater your chances of getting infected. So, swimming at an indoor facility might not be wise now.

“If you’re at a crowded indoor pool and if someone is infected with SARS-CoV-2, there could be a significant risk of transmission, not from the water, but from other nearby people,” Pastula said.

Outdoor pools should be safer than indoor facilities.

“If you are able stay more than 6 feet away from others and practice social distancing, we think the risk of transmission outdoors is low. The virus gets dispersed more easily outdoors,” Pastula said.

What’s the best way to keep from getting infected?

Staying safe from COVID-19 is the same whether you’re at a pool, a park or a grocery store. Focus on how you could get infected: by touching something or by having someone sneeze or cough on you.

“The virus is mainly spread through droplets. That means someone either has to cough or sneeze on you. Or you have to touch a surface that has live virus on it and introduce it to your face with your hands,” Chauhan said.

“Keep your hands washed at all times” Chauhan said.

Were pools and beaches closed in the past during other disease outbreaks?

Yes. Anyone who was alive in the 1940s and 1950s will remember the closure of pools and beaches at both lakes and the ocean during summers when polio outbreaks were common.

Pastula said that public health experts back then didn’t understand exactly how polio spread during the outbreaks. But more people got sick during the summer. Polio is caused by an entirely different kind of virus than the coronavirus that causes COVID-19. Polio is what’s known as an enterovirus and this class of viruses often spreads in July, August and September. Because the polio virus struck more people in the summer months, health experts initially theorized that mosquitos might have been transmitting it. In fact, experts know today that polio was transmitted primarily through feces or droplets. But, without a deep understanding of how the virus spread in the 1940s and 1950s, leaders shut down places where people gathered in the summers and that included pools and beaches.

Polio outbreaks were very scary until a vaccine became widely available in 1955.

“Parents would be terrified of the oncoming summer. One in 200 people would get paralysis, not just kids but adults. It would strike everyone, rich and poor. It seemed to strike at random.

“Polio was the No. 2 thing that Americans most feared at the time, second only to nuclear bombs,” Pastula said.

Public health experts today know much more about how SARS-CoV-2 spreads. But there are many parallels to outbreaks and plagues of the past. With no cures for COVID-19 and the lack of a vaccine, communities must rely on old-fashioned methods to stay safe, including isolation, quarantines, and social distancing.

Those efforts made a dramatic difference in the spring with COVID-19.

“What we’re seeing (in COVID-19 cases leveling off) is absolutely the result of the stay-at-home orders. The initial stay-at-home orders prevented a crisis in hospitals and helped quash that first wave,” Pastula said.

“As we start lifting and relaxing some of the restrictions, there’s a potential for a second wave. It can either become uncontrollable or remain slow, low, and controlled. What happens depends on how well we all collectively follow the guidelines,” Pastula said.

To keep a major rise in cases at bay, the summer of 2020 by necessity will be very different from years past.

“Right now, there is continued community transmission in many places,” Pastula said. “We’re not out of the woods yet.”

courtesy of UCHealth the University of Colorado Hospital system

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