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Feeling nostalgic, so I drew them together
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ndnaw · 11 months
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Why I stand with Daniel from DanPlan.
DISCLAIMER: THIS HAPPENED OVER THREE (3) YEARS AGO, IN NO WAY AM I TRYING TO BRING UP ANY RESOLVED ISSUES. I ONLY WANT DANIEL TO KNOW THAT HE DID GOOD OVERALL. I DO NOT KNOW DANPLAN'S MEMBERS AND SO I AM JUST SPEAKING MY PIECE.
DanPlan was created by Daniel and Hosuh, the founding members of the channel. They were both just kids who had begun YouTube which Daniel said was quite hard and I can not imagine how hard it is to run a channel along with life's many responsibilities. Hosuh introduced Stephen to Daniel and they started making videos together.
Now at this point, we get into psychology. Daniel gave up on an important opportunity to do YouTube so this channel was more to him than 'fun', this channel was his business, his livelihood, and the place that provided him his wants. He and Hosuh were partners in a business and Daniel wanted to get Stephen into it as well. In response to this, Stephen said he was not going to be taking YouTube seriously and he admitted that Daniel & Hosuh were doing most of the work. From this point, the mindsets of Daniel and Stephen are very different; Daniel's business is YouTube and he takes this seriously while Stephen does not take YouTube seriously.
So, so far, everything was going well, they were getting a lot of subscribers and they were having fun while doing it. I am not sure about the timeline but when the channel began growing, Daniel wanted to pay Stephen but Stephen declined because 'he was doing it for fun,; but Daniel still wanted to pay him for his time even though he said he was doing it for fun. They agreed to $25/hr. (At some point, he was supposed to get $300 but he only worked 9 hours. Do some basic wage math. $25 * 9 = $225 )
According to Stephen's video, they made a video talking about which of the members contributed the most to the channel, and in the video, it was concluded that Stephen contributed the least. This seemed to plant some seed of anger in Stephen. He said he was a founding member and he was needed/necessary to the growth of the channel. From my business standpoint, Stephen is not a founding member, yes he is a contributing and necessary member of their dynamic but a founding member is a person belonging to an organization who was involved in setting it up. He joined after Daniel and Hosuh. The name DanPlan was made up of Daniel's name and Hosuh's username so it is clear that those two are the founding members. From the beginning, Stephen admitted that Hosuh and Daniel contributed the most. They did the editing, the animation, the planning, the stories, the sound, etc... for the channel, so, of course, Stephen contributed the least.
This YouTube animation channel is different from a movie set. In a movie set, the actors make the movie but for a YouTube animation channel, the animation keeps the audience because how many of you would watch their channel if the screen was just black? So yes, I do think he contributes the least even if he is funny or adds personality to the stories.
Now from here, Stephen's one-sided beef started. Everything seemed fine to Daniel, the insults in each video after were just Stephen being Stephen. This just seems like pure miscommunication, Daniel just thought his friend was the same while Stephen was fostering malice for something taken out of proportion.
Daniel got invited to a call which was apparently just to talk about VIDCon with Stephen but Stephen brought an advisor. Stephen wanted thirty-three (33%) of the company and the revenue or else he would leave the channel. In a partnership of three people, his getting a thirty-three percent share would leave Hosuh and Daniel with sixty-seven percent which when shared in half assumingly, would leave them with thirty-three point five percent (33.5%).
Daniel was angry; his friend completely switched up from YouTube being fun to wanting 33% of the company while Hosuh & Daniel were putting in most of the work. This led Daniel to hang up the phone, he was upset at Stephen's approach rather than the percentage of shares.
Stephen works less than an animator. They agreed on $100 each video. (Stephen says Daniel brought it up) At this point, Stephen threatened to leave twice and Hosuh was leaving to the military. Daniel took in Ann and Jay in order to ensure the channel was not left in a vulnerable state after Hosuh and Stephen leaving. 
Daniel spoke to Stephen about getting a channel of his own to make him understand the hardships and as well as to build a partnership between the two channels. Stephen declined and said he would never do YouTube. After they met at a convention, Stephen made a channel even though he swore against it. 
December 15 - Stephen left. Even after, Daniel tried to meet with Stephen and tried to still be friends with Stephen. 
This just seems like the perfect example of why you do not bring friends into business. Friends think they can push boundaries. Friends let their feelings override logical decisions.
I hope that Daniel's channel continues to strive. He has a good business mindset and his stories have always been intriguing and creative. I hope Stephen is happy with his decision. I do not particularly miss what DanPlan had, I still enjoy it and I think one day it will be a whole lot better.
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I miss them sometimes…
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nobrain-onlysteven · 9 months
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I’m having an old fandom relapse and Plan3 is the only thing keeping me sane
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lisehel · 10 months
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didn't expect a stephen drawing did you? i made a doodle a while back
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shadowpon-3 · 2 months
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gutzzcribbler · 28 days
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Heyyy uh so intro I guess
☆You can call me Stan/Stanley, Adam or Dave or Sean
☆I am a Minor
☆My pronouns are he/him (I am an ISTP)
☆I am asexual :) and bi I might also be on the aromantic spec too tho
☆My biggest interests are Homestuck nd Eddsworld (but I love tons more shit so I guarantee I like smth u do)
☆If u wanna follow my Insta and other shit it is in my bio
☆I also have a SpaceHey Account if u want to add me on that I can give u my user
Basically this is an art account and shit about my ocs but I might make a second blog to write fics Abt shit Anyways byeeee thx for readin B))
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shhcourior · 1 year
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I do art too you guys 🥺👉👈
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kizi-zu · 9 months
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Some redraws from the new vid 🐈🍞
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flunkett · 10 months
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stephen leaving danplan was my canon event
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This was based on a headcanon I had back in 2019 about Stephen wearing contact lenses (that just happened to be red) while his original eye color was purple, and he'd used to wear glasses before switching to contacts. Because I always drew DP!Stephen with red eyes?? LAJSLDKAD Anyway yeah this is supposed to be when they first moved in with each other
God, I'm cringe
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suzukipc · 1 year
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I know its been 3 years since the animators from danplan getting taken advantage of but I still cannot get over that stupid charity stream. Do you remember the stream raising 4k, but the animators only got 120 dollars each. Lmao
pisses me off. Fuck you Snazzel, I hope you never find a day of peace in your life
we settled that in private but he disappeared off the face of the internet and so I wanted to let my feelings out in the void. I am not okay about it, I'll never be okay about it, despite us "settling" it in private. He lied to us and said he faked the donos so we wouldnt feel bad, but so many of my friends and I think he took a large sum. Some people on reddit from last year said he spent the animators charity money on porn. But with all his accounts gone and the discord nuked, there really is no way to pursue this anymore. Im tired of pretending to be okay with it.
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kowzs · 1 year
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I just realized my crush on Chishiya is lowke a direct pipeline from my crush on Hosuh from danplan a few years back...I think I just like quiet men with silver hair... But I also liked Stephen so what does that say about me-
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pixieblob036 · 12 days
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Okay. Battle of the blue haired brothers to be the next Heartbreaker.
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littlefoxwithbighat · 2 months
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I miss... danplan....
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mintytrashart · 5 months
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Posting some old Danplan fanart I found the other day (the oldest pieces of art I can find and have a date for) you can find this also posted on main
Note to self: look at this whenever you feel like you haven't improved
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