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stainedglassthreads · 6 months

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I feel like the four leads of Deltarune--Kris, Susie, Ralsei, and Noelle-are just. Somehow two different levels of queer-coded.

(Edit: Just to be clear: not saying any of this to disparage or insult shippers of Kralsei, Suselle, or Kriselle, I've just seen a lot of cool analysis about tropes, romance, and lack of choice in Deltarune and wanted to chime in with some of my own thoughts. If you ship any of those ships in Deltarune--fantastic! May you find a lot of content precisely to your taste.)

Like. On the one hand, if you're looking at tropes, they are very neatly set up into two romantic partnerships. Noelle is very blatantly interested in Susie, and Ralsei's feelings for Kris are often portrayed similarly. On a surface level, both pairings appear very clear. Noelle is a girl in love with another girl, while Ralsei is a very effeminate boy in love with a teen who doesn't appear to use pronouns. And a big deal isn't made of either pairing, there's nothing really in the way of Suselle or Kralsei on a societal level we've encountered so far. At least in terms of gender and sexuality. But if you look a little closer, it's kind of...'these are a very straight idea of queer ships', y'know?

Noelle and Susie are both girls, but one is very effeminately coded, anxious, uses magic, and is more traditionally cute, while they other is crass, crude, intimidating, and physically strong. Ralsei and Kris are gender-noncomforming, but Ralsei is a sweet pacifistic healer who bakes cakes while Kris uses a sword, and keeps being mistaken for a boy by much of Youtube and Reddit. The active one and the passive one, the fighter and the mage, the one with cute hobbies and the one who eats moss, the one in pants and the one in a dress.

And here, I start thinking of some posts I've seen analyzing how, in Deltarune, romance is used to explore how Kris doesn't really get choices. Kris has been cast as the leader and knight, and Ralsei has been cast as the healer and Princess, even if he is a boy. The leader often ends up with the healer. The knight often gets the princess as a happy ending. But Kris doesn't seem to like this! Their reactions to Ralsei are constantly lukewarm at best, and that's not getting into how Ralsei seems to be in love with his idea of Kris, while being very. Asriel-coded, who the game describes often as Kris' brother, in sharp contrast to how ambiguous Chara and Frisk's relationships with the Dreemurrs were.

If we and Kris reject Ralsei as a love interest, we can a different romantic partner in Noelle...but this choice has a bodycount, traumatizes Noelle, doesn't seem to leave Kris any happier, and it's still a kind of straight-coded ship. Now it's the knight being paired up with the apocalypse maiden, for the doomed codepedent toxic tragedy lovers out there. But it kinda makes sense too, right? If Kralsei is the expected RPG romance, then Kriselle would be the expected romance if there were no Dark World and Ralsei weren't an option. They're childhood friends and neighbors in a small town, their families used to be very close, Rudy is still very fond of Kris. They're even extremely angel/devil coded.

But the most interesting part is. It's implied that there IS someone that Kris is very interested in, either platonically or romantically. It's Susie. Kris never seems frightened by Susie when they're bullied by her, and rejects Noelle's offers to switch seats. They seek comfort from Susie rather than Ralsei after the Spamton fight, they call her their friend when Toriel calls, they share moss with her, they refuse to think about her during Snowgrave when Ralsei prompts them, they make it clear that out of all the people they COULD go to the Carnival with, Susie is the one they'd ACTUALLY want to choose.

And this is the part that drives me crazy. Because while Kris is so tightly controlled by genre and narrative, and those things would usually push them towards Ralsei or Noelle, and Ralsei keeps encouraging Kris to stick to the narrative. Susie is the one who refuses to be bound to the narrative. Susie is the character of Deltarune who is most unapologetically herself--and isn't that a very queer thing, refusing to be anyone but yourself despite everything? She says no thanks to the prophecy, until she comes around to it on her own terms! She makes herself and Ralsei learn to take their own actions, and drags Ralsei off to have fun with him instead of letting Kris choose who to with! She doesn't stay in her box of the damage-dealing fighter, she insists on learning Healing magic, even if she's not particularly skilled at it at first! Even Ralsei is forced to admit that it's wonderful that Susie is Susie, and not anyone else!

I think Kris likes Susie a lot. And part of it may be admiration. That while Kris is controlled by the player and the narrative and the prophecy and humanity and divorce and a dozen things outside their control, Susie refuses to ever be bound by anything. And Kris and Susie together happen to be the two more masculinely-coded party members, the two melee fighters, the two troublemakers. It honestly makes me wonder a little if Susie and Kris might be able to make their own ending beyond the bounds of gender expectations and romance expectations together? It would be cool. And I think it would make Kris very happy to break free like that.

#deltarune #deltarune meta #deltarune analysis #deltarune theory #kris dreemurr #susie #noelle holiday #ralsei #kralsei #kriselle #krusie

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deargodhelpmeaaa · 2 months

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Deltarune (lightner) ships analyzed for how likely they are to be canon. (ship whatever u want this is just what I think, feel free to comment an argument for your ship, too, I'm happy to hear you out) spoilers if u missed playing this game for the SEVERAL YEARS ITS BEEN OUT

Krusie

I think they're just friends tbh. Susie doesn't show any signs of romantic interest in Kris at all, but Kris MIGHT like her romantically. Ralsei mentions feeling warm when he thinks about the way they care about her and her tea heals Kris the most out of all of them and how much it heals is based on how much the characters like each other (Susie's tea heals 400 of Noelle's health points) and when asked who they'll take to the festival, Kris is implied to sound confused when you make them say they want to go with Ralsei or Noelle.

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Susie and Ralsei's dialogue when Kris drinks Susie's tea is a little sus, too.

But again, there's no specific interactions that REALLY indicate that they really do like each other like that. Susie isn't really shown to like Kris as more than a friend, and Kris likes her, but a lot of this stuff sounds like they just like her as a really close friend...

They really do strike me as best friends. They're excited to go to the dark world together in chapter 2, and Susie is excited to go there again at the end of chapter 1. How they want to keep it a secret because it's their thing... I think that trying to say it's a romance is just reading into it a bit too much. Susie's probably going to end up with Noelle and not Kris.

Also I think it's super interesting that Kris and Noelle both like Susie a lot as people who lack control over their own lives- Noelle being super submissive and Kris literally being possessed.

Suselle

The ferris wheel scene they have together, it's implied that they did stuff together in Snowgrave. Susie blushes when Noelle gives her the chalk and they have a lot of cute, awkward interactions. Susie does seem to like Noelle back but doesn't know it yet, and it is clear to me that they're going to get into a relationship.

Kralsei

A bit weird.... Ralsei looks like Kris's brother and kind of forces himself onto them a bit since we know they don't really like him as much as we do and he's appealing to the player who's controlling Kris and not necessarily Kris themself. He still blushes around them, and if you choose to hug him on the boat and fight Spamton, he forcefully hugs Kris to distract everyone from what's going on. Not as wholesome as it initially looks, is it? If it becomes canon it will be against Kris's consent.

Kriselle

Honestly? It's possible. Snowgrave is forced and fucked up but I think even in the normal route there might be tiny hints that Noelle likes Kris a little bit.

(WHY SHE DO THAT) I might be reading into it too much, though.

Ralsusie

Not really canon, either. Again, she doesn't show any romantic interest in him, he doesn't in her. There's not a lot of grounds to stand on to say it will be canon. It seems like Ralsei is too interested in Kris (or more accurately: the player) and Noelle is too interested in Susie, who is unaware that she likes her back. I think it's a cute pairing but I really do just see them as friends and nothing else.

Krerdly

I already did a post on this but I've updated my reasoning since. I will reitorate some of my previous evidence nonetheless. JUST BECAUSE I CAN!!!

Berdly lowers the fee on the library book for seemingly no reason in chapter 1, is shown to care about Kris and views them as a friend but is only pushing them away to maintain his status as the "smart kid." They play games together and it's clear that Kris likes Berdly, too, and one of my favorite instances of this is the narration when you stare at his stupid statue for too long (skip to the 3 minute mark on the video)

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He's the only character to open the present you give them and has the most heartfelt reaction to it.

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He loses interest in Susie at the end of chapter 2.

And indicates that he's not repulsed by the idea of being with Kris, only turning them down because he thinks he likes Susie and that Susie likes him back, and so therefore he tries to pursue her.

and is put under the impression that they like him when they show concern for him. It is possible that they do like him romantically. It is possible that he likes THEM romantically and is just too out of touch with his own feelings to recognize it. He's really nice to them a lot more than he needs to be even when he's trying to be condescending. Obviously he values them as a friend even if initially trying to deny it.

His character development isn't completed at the end of chapter 2 and it seems clear to me that he's going to be coming back somehow. He's only just a little less hesitant to study with Kris and Susie at the end of Chapter 2. He still has that weird relationship with romance since he thinks nobody can love him without some ulterior motive, like romance. He thinks romance is super important, this massive form of intimacy and he wants it desperately, and that will hopefully be explored further and developed more.

Chapter 2 is all about him and Noelle and he gets a lot of his own individual development that is pretty separate from Noelle's and not even aided by hers, which is different from Lancer (who he's oft compared to) whose development is connected directly to Susie's. There's no reason to just throw Berdly's ass away right after chapter 2 (unless you literally forced Noelle to do that to him lmao) I think he's gonna do more in the story somehow, in some way. He's gonna develop more, and I think we're going to see more of his relationship with romance. We might get to meet his family and see more of that. Like.... he's just too good of a character to throw away IMO. Not to mention how a lot of the computer world's denizens resemble him in some way, the butlers being literally birds, Queen's mech sharing some visual simularities to him,

Spamton being an almost direct parallel to his character.... lots of things about that seem pretty sus and make me think he might be important in some way just because of that.

We also have the route where he breaks his arm which will take his development in another direction as well.

Toby Fox mentioned that the game is taking so long because he and the team need to do all these new mechanics, the branching paths, and it's very complex.

So.

Basically.

What I think is going to happen.

Is that Krerdly could happen in one or more routes where Berdly is still alive. So it hurts even more that he's dead in snowgrave. Whoops. Killed our characters' future boyfriend. My bad! Lmao! And yeah I think it's Kris who will be interested and not necessarily the player because that's less weird and cuter to me hehe haha hahaha.

Listen.

I might be reading too much into it because I really like Berdly and relate to him like crazy. (big shocker: the crazy tumblr girl that writes long rambly analysis about videogames and youtube and shit and constantly draws Berdly and is obsessed with him relates to Berdly)

Oh yea one unrelated theory I think that he might be the only light world character you can force Noelle to kill. It'd be kind of dumb to repeat the snowgrave route like that IMO and make it more impactful that way but maybe I just want my boy to be special IDK.

Noelle x Berdly

Sunken ship. They don't like eachother romantically at all. Berdly thinks she likes him but doesn't like her back, and Noelle doesn't like Berdly romantically at all, and even may hold some mild, repressed contempt towards him, but she still cares about him. It's made clear as day in the game that they are just friends and not interested in making their friendship anything else, unless Noelle asked out Berdly, the pinnacle of masculinity himself, (which he'd agree to since he would worry about what would happen otherwise) but heh. Yea.... like that's going to happen...

Susie x Berdly

Susie doesn't like him romantically, he loses interest in her at the end of chapter 2.

Ralsei x Berdly

They never interact and we don't know if they will interact.

Noelle x Ralsei They never really interact yet either. Later on I can see them interacting more since Toby described Noelle as "one of the main characters" but it's not going to be romantic. I think that's obvious.

We don't know the other characters well enough to say anything about them. That being said...

Dessriel

Toby Fox commented that someone was making something really similar to Deltarune and it's speculated it was in reference to omori.

We only have one comment about Dess using Asriel's jacket to back this up, as well as the fact that Dess and Asriel are friends so Kris and Noelle were friends, and everything seems to have fallen apart after Dess's disappearance. I think about Hero and Mari here, and wonder if that's what he meant in this tweet. It's possible that Dess and Asriel liked eachother romantically or were dating (I don't think we've gotten any specifics on the nature of their relationship). We don't know yet, though but it's a theory. A GAME THEORY THANKS FOR READING!!!!

To reitorate before I go: Remember even though I said your ship is unlikely to become canon I'm not dissing it and you're not a bad person for liking it at all, like what you like, ship what you want (but know where to draw the line of course, be normal, JESUS). So yeah no shade on anyone this is just what I think, aight?

#Youtube #deltarune #susie deltarune #kris dreemur #ralsei #noelle holiday #suselle #krerdly #deltarune berdly #berdly #kriselle #not tagging the other ships in case i piss someone off #i know how shipping culture is

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gooselycharm · 9 months

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hi there! i'd just like to say that your kris and noelle "something else" comic has been driving me insane /pos and i'd love to hear more of your thoughts on those two!! their relationship is one of my favorite things in deltarune and your comic just got everything about them so right 🙏

thank you for reading "something else"! oh man, [more of] my thoughts on kris+noelle.... i sure got some of those.

this was one of the first tweets i made after finishing chapter 2 nearly... freaking 2 years ago. and basically i've just been saying that over and over again in different ways because i'm still not tired of the concept yet and probably wont ever be LOL. i'm obsessed with how badly the narrative wants to force them into an easily categorizable dynamic, especially the romantic one in snowgrave. the literal THORN RING, the more possessive dialogue options, spamton calling noelle a side chick LOL... it all creates this unnerving visual novel bad end atmosphere that feels manufactured by someone who's only ever learned about romance through secondhand sources. they're two queer teens trying to navigate their changing relationship with the only role models they know being their parents' own failed heterosexual marriages. they're so divorced² (divorced children of divorce).

i also like that for being so tragically doomed coded they can be funny! both in a dark humor way and also like, genuinely funny, like the stories of them as kids with kris covering themselves in ketchup and hiding under noelle's bed lmao. i mean there's even something funny about the romantic trappings of the snowgrave route, like trying to put wedding cake embellishments on a crime scene... you know, funny like kids trying on their parents clothes but they're too big and for some reason they're also crying and covered in blood? um.

i'm also SOOOO interested to see how snowgrave will continue in chapter 3! i really liked the hopeful note chapter 2 ended on (well. i took it as hopeful anyway). there's that bit where noelle is talking to herself and she says something like "recently kris has been acting so strange and no one else has noticed... i have to figure out why" and then kris jumpscares her LOL but i think i took that one line and really ran with it. noelle really is the one who knows kris best and despite how scared she is, she's still determined to help them... i like the little subversion of victim/hero going on, the implication that kris might be the one who needs rescuing.

the additional story/lore that came with the spamton sweepstakes made me CRAAAZYYYYY like my GOD... it's cute that noelle likes glitches/creepypasta when kris is kinda a walking creepypasta <3 also, god, noelle falling asleep listening to kris playing piano in the other room... there's so much like. wistfulness and nostalgia and this like... distant/detached intimacy packed into how noelle narrates that scene. it's kind of funny how much there is to dig into when like on a surface level they're just fairly regular childhood friends who grew apart LMAO they're extremely deep to me okay...

on another note i guess i do ship them? i like their dynamic whether it's platonic or romantic (the best is a weird mix of both 👍). it just can't be boring LOL like... this is one ship where trying to apply cookie cutter tropes to them really falls flat and the game is ahead of you on that anyway. in terms of romantically shipping them, i honestly don't think they're doomed to repeat patterns forever... i think they could actually be good for each other! but that's not really the aspect of their relationship that interests me akldjf;alk;sdg maybe i will make 60 page comic of kriselle going to couples counseling some other time

ANYWAY i'm going to cut myself off here, because i really could go on forever lol. i'll give you some links for further reading though

hellspawnmotel's deltarune art

lula pillowbug99's deltarune art

this art by raspbearis which features prominently in my internal kriselle bible

my own unfinished kriselle playlist

my own essay on gender & allegory in deltarune if for some reason u are not tired of hearing me talk yet

okay bye now & thanks again for reading my comic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#deltarune #kriselle #im post #im really posting now. i be talking.

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star-light-shadows · 1 year

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Noelle explains Fnaf Lore to Kris and Susie.

(Inspiration and full infodump text for those who are curious under the cut.)

and, you see, that's what makes the ending of the 7th game so interesting, it draws a parallel between Golden Freddy and Springtrap that has been a consistant theme since Fnaf 3, Springtrap and Golden Freddy, or William Afton and Cassidy, are not that dissimilar from each-other. The later games would even reveal that Cassidy was William's own DAUGHTER. That's why Scott decided to make the killer wear a golden suit in the first place. That's why the darkened form of Golden Freddy seemed to mimic William's actions, luring the other animatronics to the safe room. Even after she got her revenge, Cassidy, just like William, was too stubborn and prideful to let go. But after Happiest day, where she finally learned to let people in thanks to the efforts of Charlie and Michael, she's ready to let her story end. Something that UCN expands upon by putting her in a situation that's practically BEGGING her to fall back into her old habits, to join The One in tormenting William, but she doesn't, instead she fades into the darkness, mirroring the first animated scene in which we ever saw Springtrap, but portraying the opposite scenario. A restless spirit that after all these decades is finally letting go, and moving on. Blah Blah Blah Bite of 87 Blah Blah blah blah, Kriselle > Suselle Don't @ Me Blah Blah Blah Blah According to all know laws of aviation Bees suck, Blah Blah

#deltarune #kris deltarune #noelle deltarune #noelle holiday #susie deltarune #kris dreemurr #fem kris

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vsa-pieldepapel · 2 years

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Indulge my inner shipping trash-self for a bit. What exactly made Kris crush on Noelle? What do they like about her? Why prank her constantly? If they hadn't drifted apart, what would their relationship look like? (bonus Ralsusie question: How would it work if Ralsei couldn't leave the dark world?)

The indulgence is all mine as well anon

> what exactly made kris crush on Noelle?

When they were kids? Nothing too important. Just the closeness of the relationship and that noelle was a cute girl, and Kris would feel like a valiant knight taking her on adventures. Kids don’t really need super deep reasons for their puppy crushes

As they grow up, I think a big part of it is the mutual understanding they have. Both feel alienated and pressured for different reasons and there is a respite in each other; Kris knowing noelle trusts them with all her quirks makes her attractive (after they bond over dark world shenanigans of course, my take is right now as of chapter 2 they are only starting to heal). I also think kris is attracted to the idea of a “partner in crime” which Noelle has been for a long, long time

> what do they like about her?

Interestingly, the sides of her that are less public LMFAO it’s all part of the Confidence you see

Her taste for horror, her prankster side, her appearance (yes I think kris finds Noelle really cute lol), her sense of humor are all big ones. We all know kris pranks Noelle but in Ch.2 we can see her retaliate and be sarcastic and playful and sharp and I think kris really likes that, again, the idea of a partner in crime to stick with through clean and messy and dick around with. I also hc they like the serious side of her— like when she waxes poetic about growing wings in the Ferris wheel, or monologues about Dess? They have heard that type of monologue before and they like it

> why prank her constantly?

It’s a love language!!!! Kris knows noelle enjoys the adrenaline of getting spooked to a degree and extrapolates she will like them if they give her that thrill, and so pranks her to get her attention when they’re kids and it solidifies as a way to display affection. Kris won’t do a prank that goes too far, they know where to draw the line and how to tightrope it. They acquired the practice through going too far a couple times

They also know she will return the jabs and games, and they like that.

> If they hadn’t drifted apart, what would the relationship look like?

Lmfao is it bad if I said I think Noelle would have never gotten a crush on Susie if they hadn’t drifted apart cus that’s what I think. I dunno if they would already be dating but they for sure would have more complex feelings for each other, perhaps walking that awkward line of “but they’ve been my neighbour forever, they probably see me more as a sister”

Or maybe the feelings toward Susie would exist, but the feelings toward kris would also exist, with all the consequent implications. Teen drama ahoy (I think if she did feel attracted to Susie, it would be on a more physical level and conflicting with the feelings toward kris… kris also has problems expressing their own feelings toward Noelle and so the relationship is at a standstill)

(Doodle of kriselle endgame to finish)

>BONUS ROUND how would Ralsusie work if ralsei couldn’t leave the dark world?

PBTBTHRBTH this is so silly but I guess it’s time to talk about the Van Headcanon eH?

In @zixzs-ajk’s fics, there is this little world building bit that the shed in the forest is an entrance to the Dark World. I really like that, and I stole it to hc the following: a few years down the line when Susie is 19-Early 20s, she gets kicked out of the house for good. At this point she has bought a dinky secondhand van. When this happens she moves in there and drives it next to the shed, setting up camp- and lives this double life of sorts where she will have a part time odd job in the light world to keep the van working-ish and socialise with kris and Noelle, but the rest of her time is spent in the dark world with Ralsei, where she has food, shelter, a lover. (I dont doubt the others go visit her there, too)

I conflate it with Rals leaving the dark world so they sometimes sleep together in the van/camp when they want to be alone, but it works if he can’t leave the dark world, the difference being that she would gradually spend more and more time there. She will never 100% stay in it without leaving (she cares for her other friends a lot, and the van does need some degree of upkeep) but most of her life is spent being queen with ralsei because duh prince he’s gonna ascend to king with warrior queen in tow

Of course canon May shit all over this and adjustments would be done accordingly, but for now, that’s the idea for that one

#deltarune #ralsusie #kriselle #kris deltarune #noelle holiday #ralsei #susie deltarune #doodle #digital #vsa answers

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mylittle-team-stuck-tale · 1 year

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another intro post :D

^drawn by my friend

(im rebooting my tumblr soon bc its a mess)

im tommy. also known as jake. i have a carrd, but it's for close friends and mutuals.

my pronouns are zomb/toon/they/pup/it(drones on for forty hundred years) and i have over thirty xenogenders. im a lesbian.

i reblog things a lot.

^ i voted for sans in the 2023 sexyman rematch (die hard undertale fan) but was super fucking psyched that cecil won

important tags

#jakey says stuff - my posts #friend tag - stuff by my friends. not much here yet XD #someone wonderful - kruselle, kriselle, krusie and kris, susie & noelle posts #dialtone circus - spamvil and spamton & jevil posts #babygirls - characters i like in a normal way #dykeposting - lesbian stuff or cute girls #bronyposting - mlp tag! #furryposting - furry stuff #me - kin tag (main ones on here are #jake english, and #rd) #critter - animals

my fandoms are...

deltarune

undertale

undertale AUs

team fortress 2

homestuck + the homestuck epilogues

my little pony: friendship is magic

cuphead

bendy and the ink machine / bendy and the dark revival

welcome to night vale

and more!

sideblogs

@glittertextonline - graphics blog @elk-creek - oc blog i barely post on @hazardtoons - art blog @entrysixteen - infodump blog? i guess

#intro post #jakey says stuff

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crossgauze · 2 years

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kriselle brainrot is so bad that whenever I see song lyrics that include light/darkness, and hearts, and beds I associate kris realizing their feelings for noelle. but I see that relationship developing later in their lives

#blep #i haven't reached that timeline in my artt #in the meantime ill be making my kriselle playlist #its all those damn romcoms that noelle plays during movie nights that's getting to kris

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sunsetcarnation264 · 2 years

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Okay last ask and then I'll stop being annoying about deltarune: What do you think about the Weird/Snowgrave route? Personally I really liked the dark tone and the way Kriselle was presented there.

Nooo you're not being annoying XD In fact, since I don't really get many asks, I'm happy that you kept sending at all! Honestly I was wondering where the fuck that dark ass shit was gonna be when I played the first chapter lol like hol up where's my "kill everybody" route but now we have it and it's like ahh yes, I'VE BEEN FED WELL NOW Needless to say, I agree XD Shit's good there, dark tone and everything

#Deltarune #Asks #Anon #Answers

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evanture · 2 years

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Hi sorry if I'm five days late on this, but going back to the whole kriselle/suselle server thing. My fears is that where those ships canonically sit right now, discussions could get rather heated (like with topics about Noelle's obsession with Susie, Susie lying to Noelle about the dark worlds, Snowgrave in general, etc.).

Don't get me wrong, there can be good discussion that comes from that. But I've seen far too much heat about that stuff coming from both sides.

OH true true but thats kinda why i wanted a server for multishipping, itd kinda help avoid that !!

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noodlenibblescribble · 3 years

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Thinking about the angst of liking your best friend since childhood but losing your closeness as tragedy strikes you both.

She loses her sister and you lose your free will. You don't talk as much anymore out of some sense to protect her, and she starts hanging out with another smart kid instead. It's for the best.

You notice she's crushing on the class bad girl (it's so obvious!) and you hate it. So you want to hate her, but one adventure later, the bad girl comes around to being a good friend. Your first in so long. And it hurts so much more meeting back with your childhood friend only to talk about her.

They're good people.

They deserve each other.

Unlike you, with your parasite.

....... and yet.

The next adventure comes. Your childhood friend was kidnapped! You go for the rescue, and get split up along the way. You find her. You're alone.

And your parasite starts infecting her.

You struggle at first. You know the horrors it's capable of. She's a sweet and kind girl, she doesn't deserve to become a monster!

But

The one in control suggests

You and her might be more than friends.

And it's pushy about being together with her.

And... she's not fighting back?