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One of my own headcanons is that Deanna doesn’t have an accent, she has a speech impediment.

I know originally her accent was supposed to be a Betazoid standard one, but basically no one else ever did it, so Deanna is the only one that sounds like that.

Deanna also mentions that growing up on Betazed she wasn’t often encouraged to speak. I imagine being half human this might cause issues with her development.

I think the fact that it sounds like an interesting and, to a lot of English speaking people, a beautiful accent helped her out. Of course, on Betazed it would be noticed and remarked upon, but at the academy or kind of anywhere else, people might just accept it as an accent and move on.

In a lot of ways I think Deanna didn’t fit well on Betazed and while her father being a Starfleet officer had a lot to do with her wanting to join the academy, I think it also turned out to be a place where she fit in better.

Amongst non telepathic species she is seen as having an incredible skill, but amongst full Betazoids she is seen as having a disability. I think this is why she reacted so badly to her situation in The Loss. Maybe Deanna has more experience than most people know with not being viewed as able, and feeling very singled out.

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[crimefighter-bae-b]

I find it interesting that Data always calls Deanna ‘counselor’ (I’m going with American spelling on this as it’s an American show) even though they are shown to be good friends that play games together outside of work time.

Like, they play chess together and Data makes her drinks. When Data created Lal he invited his three best friends- Geordi, Deanna, and Wes. At the end of Phantasms they sit in his quarters and eat cake together.

I just... can’t think of him ever calling her Deanna? Ever?

And it leads me to create headcanons around it. Is it a little joke between them? Is there something about their friendship that makes Data feel uncomfortable with dropping her title?

I like to think it’s an in-joke between them, but Data just plays it so straight all the time no one ever picked up on it.

Anyway, in my own, little, shippy universe it means that when he does drop her formal title it means something. To both of them.

And that’s a straight shot of dopamine to my brain, my dudes.

#star trek: tng #Data/Troi #Datzadi #Datroi

[carthl]

mrpicard answered your question: Star Trek for the uninitiated

Even the actors are ashamed of it these days, so, no, this episode does NOT represent TNG.

datzadi answered your question: Star Trek for the uninitiated

CofH is a TERRIBLE episode and is definitely not indicative of the series. It’s best to skip that ep when introducing people to Trek.

Lol, yeah, okay, I wish I had known that before - those are 45 minutes I'm never getting back :D I might even need some bleach.

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[datzadi]

It’s wild sometimes to remember that Deanna was six years old when Data joined Starfleet. She outranks him, but in Redemption part II he says he’s been in Starfleet for twenty-six years. Like, you really have to wonder how much he was held back. Was it his his social problems, people’s prejudice against him, or a bit of both?

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[datzadi]

I commissioned the wonderful Pien who was very patient with me during the commission process. If you want to see more of their work just click on this link! I asked for an ‘almost kiss’ between Data and Troi, and I wasn’t disappointed in the least!

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[datzadi]

Headcanon: One of the best parts of being in a relationship with Data? Deanna can finally turn down suitors sent from her mother.

YES.

I mean, being real, there are a lot of positives to being with Data, but this is a HUGE benefit that should not be overlooked.

Lwaxana probably has a lot of opinions about Data (and she probably never forgave him for boring her to death in Manhunt). So Deanna would probably have to deal with a lot of complaining from her mother (though this is business as usual).

However, Lwaxana likes to exploit other people's sense of politeness in order to get what she wants, making things uncomfortable until people give in. What I mean is, she purposely does impolite things, relying on the fact that others will step in to try to mend the situation. This usually works out in her favour.

But, she just couldn't play Data that way. Not only does he absolutely lack the ability to read the social cues she's trying to play into, but even if he does pick up on what she wants, he would be firm and imperturbable.

He would be the worst thing you could ever be to Lwaxana Troi: immovable.

And what's worse?

Unreadable.

So not only does Deanna not have to deal with all those suitors (though I am sure Lwaxana has tried to deter her with other offers), but she can also take some joy in finally being with someone who really can handle her mother.

And what's more, Data being Data, he probably likes Lwaxana Troi.

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[datzadi]

Headcanon: Deanna likes to listen to Data when he is info dumping. And will get huffy and upset when someone rudely interrupts him or make fun of him. (Then Troi will straight up chop them in the throat)

HAHAHA!

The visual of Deanna Troi just straight up karate chopping someone in the throat is amazing!

I can't recall if she's ever been impatient with him over it in the show, if anything I think she has often found it amusing?

My personal take is that Deanna, being a counsellor, would easily recognize that Data's info dumping is a healthy activity for him and something she wouldn't attempt to stifle. She might try to help him with understanding the appropriate times and places to engage in it, but she wouldn't try to get him to stop it entirely.

When Data info dumps we see a side of him that is rare and that he usually denies- he's enthusiastic. And I think that in itself feels to her like a good thing to encourage.

While I wouldn't call it his 'love language' per se, I think the fact that she is comfortable with it and never asks him to stop, while other people usually do, would make it into an intimate language between them. She is a safe person he can be that way with which would strengthen their bonds both as friends and as lovers.

There may be days where she needs to ask him to stop, but they both know it's rare and it would probably help clue him in to her emotional state and what she might need in that moment.

Because Data would be attentive. Maybe overly attentive sometimes, but it all comes from a good place.

As for someone making fun of him or being rude about it- I think that person would quickly lose estimation in her eyes. Like, I know Picard is famous for doing it on the bridge, but that's sort of because it's not the time or place, but if someone in a casual setting were to do it I think she would turn very cold towards them and probably ask Data if he wanted to take a walk with her in the arboretum or to cetacean ops. She would make her displeasure with their current company VERY clear.

I also imagine this is an ongoing issue Deanna has with her mother.

Thank you again for the headcanon! I'm sorry it took me some time to get back to you on this one.

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[datzadi]

Headcanon: Data is fascinated by Deanna's hair and like to analyze how curly and wavy it is.

Yes, I agree entirely! I like to think he's particularly interested in trying to capture the look of it on canvas when he paints. On one level I think he's fascinated by the effort it takes to maintain it. That she must place a great deal of significance on it to put so much effort into keeping it healthy and styling it. I think he would be interested in the sense of identity and expression that humanoid life forms feel from their hair.

On quite another level, I believe he would be fascinated by the way it curls around his hands, soft between his fingers. And how he finds it clinging to his sofa, or the sheets of his bed, when she is gone. It's a reminder of how their relationship has changed- the areas of his life she now occupies both physically and personally.

Maybe he understands more about the former from his experience with the latter. Identity is not just about what we project, but about interpretation from the outside. If Deanna wishes the person who touches her hair to find it soft, if she wishes to be identified so strongly by it that even a strand could bring her presence to him even when she's absent...

...then he is probably beginning to understand why humanoids place so much value on it.

Thank you so much for sending me an ask! I love hearing about headcanons!

#ask #hair #data/troi #data x troi #datroi #datzadi #skullywullypully

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Data/Troi microfic below the cut.

you can find an updated version of this microfic on my other blog: https://datzadi.tumblr.com/

They sat on her couch, knees touching, as he described the process behind his and Geordie’s recent research into the particle array modifications they had been experimenting with.

Deanna liked seeing him like this. In this moment he was fully himself, leaning forward, still in uniform. His conversation was not a performance, like his small talk routine. He was enthusiastic, loose. He reminded her of an open window, an easy breeze, the hint of a warm heart.

She understood maybe only half of what he was actually saying. She frowned a little, trying to parse it, when he stopped abruptly.

“Deanna, am I annoying you?”

“No! Data, no. Absolutely not, I think I’m just a little… embarrassed.”

“You have done nothing that warrants embarrassment.”

“It’s just that… look, I’ve never been intimidated by someone’s intelligence, Data, but I know I’m not the most technically minded person on the ship. Sometimes, when you tell me about what you and Geordi get up to, I just… feel a little lost. Like I’m letting you down when I don’t understand.”

“It may surprise you to know that I have had similar instances of doubt about my own abilities when you have discussed your work.”

“I suppose that’s true. It feels different though.”

“In what way?”

“Theoretical propulsion physics is very different from psychology.”

Data’s hand, his right, had found it’s way to her knee and he brushed his thumb gently over it.

“And besides, while you may not understand the psychology now, I think in time you will. I, on the other hand, am never going to grasp the finer details of engineering a particle array.”

Data pinched his brows in thought, looking to the floor, then met her eyes again.

“Would you prefer that I not speak to you about my work?”

“I like hearing you tell me about it, I just hope you can be patient with me when I don’t understand.”

“Of course.” He said, then leaned forward to press a kiss to her mouth. She smiled against his mouth and kissed him back.

“I am gratified to know that you place so much confidence in my abilities.” He said, moving back. “I do wish to one day understand emotion, to be better at connecting with those around me.”

“I don’t doubt that you will.”

“Then, let me say that I do not doubt your ability to understand the technical aspects of my work. May I remind you, that it was you who helped Geordi and I comprehend the warp core of a Romulan Warbird.”

Deanna smiled, but touched her face self conscious.

“I was worried I hadn’t helped much at all.”

“Your efforts were exemplary. In that moment you surprised me. Working with you in a technical capacity was… exhilarating. You have hidden depths.”

“Oh my god, Data. Are you telling me that it turned you on?”

Data was the one that seemed embarrassed now, sheepish and drawing himself slightly away.

“It was a- a unique moment, one that I have re-examined many times. It was… particularly insightful and… one of the more formative moments in my desire to- my decision to-“

Deanna was smiling now, immensely pleased by his awkward, rambling attempt to explain his process. She spared him further explanation by leaning forward to kiss him again, but this time he took her mouth greedily, his left hand raising up to press against her back.

When they parted again he simply said:

“Yes, I believe it did.”

#data/Troi #my writing #just random stuff I wrote tonight #datroi #datzadi #TNG Microfic

[datzadi]

I’m living for all the tags on my earlier post, but I wanted to respond to some specific ones.

starry-bite:

‘to belong to a place and know you cannot belong in a place’ perfectly sums up my feelings about Deanna’s experiences as a child on Betazed. Tam even says to her ‘it looks like you finally found a place to fit in’ in the episode Tin Man. I think Tam, more than anyone, understood how isolating and difficult it was to be different on their home planet.

I always imagine that Will was another spot of difference, another mark of something other to score against Deanna. Not that Betazoid’s are incredibly prejudiced, but I do think there is a cultural undercurrent of having opinions about non-telepathic species, and that this bias hasn’t been addressed by their wider society.

I also believe that Will knows Deanna has a speech impediment, but he is one of the only people she has ever told. I have imagined it as a secret she keeps, not because anyone would look down on her for it, but for the fear that she has that someone will. Deanna, understandably, does not like how people treat people they perceive as disabled as I am very certain she has often been on the receiving end of that attitude on her home planet more than once.

This otherness also fits into my own shippy ideas of Data and Deanna having more in common than what anyone might assume. They are both misfits who found their place on the Enterprise. Two people who have been dismissed by many. I like to believe she would someday be able to be vulnerable with him. I know he would understand.

I am glad to hear different perspectives on my headcanons because I never want to put something out there that hurts anyone. I want to know that where I am coming from is from a solid place and not based in my own ignorance. Having people who have a speech impediment, know about linguistics, or are simply enthusiastic in the topic sending positive feedback gives me some confidence.

Also, thank you for the follow!

USS-party-bus:

I hadn’t thought of it in terms like this, where it’s not so much an impediment as a lack of practice/learning language very deliberately.

It’s an interesting note about your co-worker. I hadn’t considered the idea despite the fact that I have recently had a coworker comment on my French in a similar way saying that everyone likes my accent because I speak Quebecois French very delicately. They like the sound, but it is markedly different than a native speaker.

More food for thought!

ripscratch:

YES YES YES. I really think there is a reason that Deanna became a counsellor and it wasn’t just because she’s empathic. Deanna had a difficult childhood- the early and sudden death of her father, the otherness of her life on Betazed, and an overbearing mother who seems to never really listen to anything she has to say.

Deanna understands the importance of talking, of being able to sit with someone and have them listen. And I think she knows that from the absence of it in her own life.

hemipta: This absolutely made me smile!

side note:

I don’t like to think of the Federation as being comprised of groups of people who claim to have reached utopia when they have not. I like to believe, much as the original series puts forward, that all of these things (ableism, misogyny, racism, poverty, disease, war etc) really have been solved- at least on Earth. Because I would like to believe that Star Trek, at it’s heart, is about how the human race made it. We went through all this blood and war and horribleness and we managed to get to the other side of it and do better. I really believe in that.

But, unlike Gene Roddenberry... I really like interpersonal conflict, especially when it is something that really resonates with people. I’m not into drama for the sake of drama, but meaningful stories about people coming together and finding their paths along side each other is really lovely.

#star trek tng #TNG #datzadi #data soong #Deanna Troi #data/troi #data x troi #datroi #headcanons #ask #reply #my ramblings again

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Enough

✰ Data/Troi Microfic below the cut ✰

Warnings: none.

Data is incapable of appreciating aesthetic. Deanna accepts this.

Modified from the first time I posted it.

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“Do you think I’m beautiful?” she asks. She means to sound coy, playful. A teasing smile touches her soft, parted lips, beneath them are the whites of her teeth.

But Data is Data, and he hesitates, brows slightly pinched and a look of regret in his eyes.

“While I understand that you are considered aesthetically beautiful by current, social, humanoid standards I am incapable of appreciating those details of your person.”

When she says nothing, lost for words rather than wounded, he ploughs forward.

“I understand this is considered a failing in a romantic partner, but… Deanna…”

The use of her name, the weight of it in his mouth in that moment catches her attention and she meets his eyes.

“I am always impressed by your strength of character. You are compassionate, kind, and intelligent. If your external beauty is lost on me, I can assure you that these internal parts of you are not. I do value them. However, I will understand if this is not enough.”

Despite the lightheartedness she had spoken with, she can feel the moment turn heavy, as if transmuted. It shifts from something intangible, and in that way infrangible, to something solid and infinitely more likely to break if mishandled.

She wonders at how human he is to tally his failings before recognizing his successes.

Before her is a man, aching, in his own way, for completion. For connection. Using the only words he has: overly clinical words, and awkward sometimes, but intelligent and honest. The meaning behind them is more important than what they sound like.

She reaches forward and takes his hand, threading their fingers together. His are stiff, not used to the act of hand holding yet. There is, with Data, always a yet.

She can’t speak, heart in her mouth, so instead she leans forward and presses her lips to his very gently.

It is a chaste kiss, testing the soft waters of their connection. It sends a thrill through her, and he gives the most gentle sigh against her mouth. It is barely a whisper, but...

“It’s enough, Data.”

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[crimefighter-bae-b]

I love the idea of Data/Troi and yet I seem to find it difficult to read about or make entirely work in my head.

I adore their differences, I love all the opportunities that lie between them for misunderstandings and awkwardness, and of course the resolutions to those things.

(And the fact that Lwaxana would lose her mind over not being able to read Data at all)

But I guess a reason I struggle with conceptualizing it is because it falls outside of the kind of relationships I usually read/write about- relationships that have very deep, very ‘you are my heart and my hands and all that I do is your doing’ kind of vibes. That undeniable knowledge that you belong to one another.

Data/Troi on the other hand feels like it’s softer than that. It’s more about looking out for each other, with this very casual and fun side of sex. There’s genuine affection and care from both partners, but it’s not ‘this is the wonder that’s keeping the stars apart’ kind of love.

Which is interesting to me. I want to find something deeper between them. I want both of them to be loved and fulfilled straight to the soul. But most stuff I have read is just pure smut and of course nothing happens between them on the show. I can’t help but feel there is a permutation of their relationship that could hit the right chord for me, but I just haven’t found it.

On a side note: I actually liked Worf/Troi more than I liked Riker/Troi and I wish they had done more with that. Also, I REALLY wish we could have seen Data/Geordi but let’s be real it was the 90′s and also Rick Berman so THAT wasn’t going to happen.

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Data/Troi Microfic under the cut.

You can find an updated version of this fic here: https://datzadi.tumblr.com/

“Do you think I’m beautiful?”

He hesitated, brows slightly pinched and a look of regret in his eyes.

“While I understand that you are considered aesthetically beautiful by current, social, humanoid standards I am incapable of appreciating those details of your person.”

When she said nothing, he ploughed forward.

“I understand this is considered a failing in a romantic partner, but… Deanna…”

The use of her name, the weight of it in his mouth in that moment caught her attention and she met his eyes.

“You have strength of character, are compassionate, kind, and intelligent. If your external beauty is lost on me, I can assure you that these internal parts of you are not. I value them above aesthetic. However, I will understand if this is not enough.”

She remembered when he had said he had considered marriage, the concern creasing his brown when she had said that aging together was part of it. How had she always missed this? Before her was a man, aching, in his own way, for completion. For connection. Using the only words he had, overly clinical sometimes, awkward, but still intelligent and honest.

She reached forward and took his hand, threading their fingers together. His were stiff, not used to the act of hand holding.

She couldn’t speak, heart in her mouth, so instead she leaned forward and pressed her lips to his very gently.

It was a chaste kiss, testing the soft waters of this connection. It sent a thrill through her and he gave the most gentle sigh against her mouth, barely a whisper.

“It’s enough, Data.”

#tng microfic #microfic #data/troi #datroi #datzadi #this is a blurb I wrote and forgot about #just throwing it here #I don’t think she is asking out of any kind of conceit

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It’s really easy to fall into this headspace of like trying to figure out what Troi’s ‘type’ is when it comes to dating. Star Trek has never been good at romance. Period. It just sucks at it. The most romantic interactions on Star Trek are usually the ones that never happened (looking at you Bashir and Garak).

So anyway, it’s hard because how much of Troi’s shit dating do you want to pin on just writers having no idea what to do with her, and how much do you want to take on board and say ‘yeah, if she has a type that’s it’?

I think she seems to like very spirited, willful kind of people. She’s clearly charmed by that Okona dude from season 1, who is in a lot of ways a lot like Riker. And she gets with Worf later who is very passionate and strong.

But she also has this weird interest throughout the series for these like bland af dudes with nothing super remarkable about them? One of them was even like some bureaucrat from a whole race of people who practiced eugenics and she didn’t seem to have a problem with that which is like

Y I K E S

(that’s one of those ones I’m not taking on board btw)

So that leaves me going ‘okay, I think her and Data have great chemistry. What would she see in him?’

I had a friend of mine point out that the fact that he is very different from any of her previous partners could be what makes it work for her- she’s had her fill of charming and daring young men. She’s been through the whirlwind romances and the flowers and all the emotional turmoil that comes with those kinds of relationships and she’s ready for something else. Something a little more steady, reliable, and artless.

Is Data capable of passion? He seems quite so in season 1 and 2. He mellows out more in later seasons, but there are some things I genuinely love about his overtly emotional reactions to things in the first two seasons. That being said, I still think you could have season 6 Data and Season 6 Troi work very well.

I know, honestly and really, most people never end up with someone they would think of as their ‘type’ anyway. It doesn’t really matter.

But it is fun to think about.

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[datzadi]

I saw a gif yesterday from a game I really enjoyed called Observation.

SPOILERS for the game, but at the end the computer and human characters become one being. And that made me think about how Data and Deanna experience the world in very different ways and what a similar experience with them would be like.

They run into strange technology all the time on unexplored planets, in ruins, from other cultures etc. And the idea of a device that would put Deanna and Data, maybe not physically together in the same body, but link their senses and thoughts together briefly as if they were, is some kind of thing I’m enjoying thinking about.

In the game Observation, SAM (the computer) and Emma are clearly cohabiting Emma’s body. Speaking and thinking as one, but still separate people.

If this were a Star Trek episode, I would love to see how overwhelming this experience would be for either Data or Deanna, and I would wonder if this device was even meant to link artificial sentient beings to organic beings in the first place.

Is this a device they can take with them, or is it a device very firmly built on a planet? Do they have to be in constant contact with the device, or does it link them until the link can be reversed?

What was the original intended use of this device? Was it to help people communicate? To help see from other people’s point of view in negotiations?

And how does this experience affect their relationship? Is it positive or negative?

An image that keeps popping into my head is Deanna and Data in her quarters, both of their hands touching a smooth, black object on her table.

Despite Data’s rather even keeled nature, I keep thinking he would be the one to struggle with this. Could he form an addiction of sorts to it? Of linking to her?

And there are erotic implications too. Deanna isn’t a stranger to being in someone's mind, but this is different. This is being that other person in a way that goes beyond telepathy and her own empathy. To be able to be the skin being touched and the hands that are touching? A sort of pleasure squared. Data may not experience pleasure in the same sense, but the mix of his own sensory input and hers is an experience profoundly different for both of them.

Anyway, I like this concept a lot and I have decided it may live rent free in my brain all it wants.

#ideas #Observation spoilers #Datzadi #Data/Troi #datroi #Data x Troi #Star Trek TNG #tng

[datzadi]

Data’s Dream Program

Just a heads up, there’s going to be a bit of sex talk below the cut on this post .

I’ve been thinking a lot about the different systems connected to Data’s dream program and the kinds of things he might experience as his neural net evolves, and one of the things I have been thinking over is a link between his sexuality program and his dreams.

It’s not uncommon for people to have sex dreams and recently I was wondering if Data could experience one.

It’s very easy to imagine him having a confusing sex dream, and talking it over with Troi or Geordi. However, I’m very sharply reminded of the episode Phantasms where Data seems to want to avoid telling Troi about his dream, and instead talks to Freud on the holodeck (I think this is because his dream has disturbing imagery that involves her, so, because of this, he is uncomfortable with telling her about it. However, this is entirely my read on the episode and possibly not the real intention of the writers).

I can’t imagine Geordi would want to hear about Data’s sex dreams except to maybe know who he was thinking about. It’s a very normal curiosity to have. He might even advise Data that sometimes a dream is just a dream and not to get too hung up on it.

I also like the idea that Data would not be self conscious about discussing his dream or having had it, but he’s possibly not keen on telling Troi too much about it. It’s an exciting step in his journey, and he would be very eager to discuss it, just maybe not... the particulars. The dream could have been about her, or it could have been somewhat formless. Was it a very normal vanilla sex dream? Or was there something odd about it?

Sometimes people dream about sleeping with someone they hate. Or sex with a strange partner, like a boss (Deanna is his superior officer). Sometimes they dream about someone they have no interest in at all. Sometimes we dream about ex partners, or sometimes we dream about strangers.

So, did he enjoy the experience or did it concern him? Did he dream of a partner he was interested in or not? If he dreamed about her, would he tell her? If he dreamed about someone else would he tell her? How often has this kind of dream happened? Does he experience the same desires while awake or does he feel incapable of sexual desire outside of the dream state?

Deanna is a professional, and she would know that even if he dreamed of her it doesn’t necessarily mean that he’s interested in her. She would be supportive, I think, no matter what. But does it make it odd for her? Does it make her consider him differently? He’s been a rather sexless person for as long as she has known him. Does this alter her perspective? Also, Deanna is very into juicy details about romantic partners (remember when Geordi came back from Risa in The Mind’s Eye?). Would she ask him against her better judgment because she was curious?

There’s some interesting fic you could do with these ideas, I think. Or at least fun things, lol. If anyone wants to chat about it feel free to message me. Also, if anyone wants to write something based off of this, go ahead. That’s what these posts are here for- to give people ideas if they are wanting to write but are a bit stuck.

I started writing something about this, but I’ve been struggling a bit. We will see where we get.

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