#dawn of the Clans spoilers

[shadowsight-aster]

Hello, I am very much interested in hearing you rant about River Ripple x Grey Wing, pls and thank you. 🙏

I like their interactions with each other more than the moments they have with their canon mates 😅

MY TIME HAS FINALLY COME OH MY GOD YIPPEE YIPPEE AN EXCUSE TO RANT ABOUT MY GUYS!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU ANON!!!!!!!!!!!! ok ok so all of this is going to be really reachy because i'm ill in the brain about these guys but just trust me

(dotc and riverstar's home spoilers beneath)

as i said before, they've got something going on, even from their first (minor) interactions after the fire in clear sky's forest, grey runs to the shore to yowl for his brother...and river is the first to join in, even past his dislike for clear sky. we see from river's perspective that he's worried about grey wing and his asthma after the blaze their relationship really comes out after the great battle, where river does his best to ease grey's grief (taking excerpts from both dotc and riverstar's home)

when river ripple first picks up grey wing's scent heading toward fourtrees, he feels like he *needs* to go to him

grey is literally his destiny i am not making this up

they kitty kiss. THEY CAT KISS. OUGHGHHHHHH IM SO NORMAL ! and grey wing *wants* river to come be with the rest of the mountain cats on the moor even after river declines, grey wing goes on to ask if he'll see him again at the next meeting

then, we skip ahead to the second time river finds grey wing at the grave, panicking because he believes grey to be hurt

river ripple cares about grey wing so much for a cat who makes it VERY clear that he doesn't really enjoy the company of the colony from the mountains bro literally SPEEDS DOWN THE HOLLOW TO GET TO HIM. IT'S. UGH I LOVE THEM this is when river offers grey wing a place in the island camp and. words cannot describe how much exploding i was doing while reading this oh my god

"he has to want this, too." OKAYYYYYYY. OKAY. I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE sorry. sorry he's so desperate for his love to be okay again. during these chapters, we're given an insight of grey's time living by the river istg they argue like a married couple i love them

and then, possibly one of my FAVORITE lines from the blazing star:

"you don't need to prove yourself to me." it is an affirmation, it is a confession, it is everything grey needed to hear. he doesn't have to keep pretending to be strong, to be "useful" around river. river sees him for how he is, understands that grey is more than his faults and his illness and his doubts !!!!! he takes him for who he is and expects nothing more. river is doing the bare minimum by being kind to him but like. in a world where your brother is 3 bad days away from murdering you in cold blood and there's a guy trying to take over your entire place of living (twice) and everybody's cold and hungry and mean, it can be a lot more impactful and then THEY KISS. AGAIN. GOD THESE FRUITASTIC CATS

"he'd become a good friend" YEAH. HE'S YOUR HUSBAND, FOOL and then. slate's there...which, again, not to hate the women of warriors cause they get enough flack but slate and grey wing's relationship feels very rushed (like 1-2 pages from 2 chapters rushed. they have two interactions and grey is smitten) and it's a little odd that he's so enamored by sunningrocks cause he *lived by the river* for a good while but i digress grey's our bisexual king and we love that for him and then we move into the aftermath of moth flight's vision, and the discovery of the moonstone. ohhhhh boy. let me tell you. when clear sky and thunder come to deliver the news of grey wing's passing, this is what runs through river's head:

HE'S EXPECTING TO FEEL THAT TUG THAT CALLS HIM TO GREY. THEY'RE. CONNECTED ON SOME KIND OF SPIRITUAL LEVEL AND IF THAT'S NOT SOULMATE BEHAVIOR IDK WHAT IS ! and after. ohhhhh man not only is grey one of the nine cats to grant river his lives--

--but ALSO appears for the first time after river drowns trying to save drizzle

nagging his boy because he just lost a life. stars know grey wing was rolling his eyes so hard /j

while it's true that their interactions are few and far between, their dynamic and their relationship is literally everything to me they are so sweet to each other and that is the absolute truth ! they had time to fall in love ON SCREEN, spanning multiple books and did so in a meaningful way i'd like to imagine grey wing fell after being invited to the island, that he realized just how much he loved river as he was leaving and that it only grew stronger in the time they were apart and they connect so easily because they're both striving for the same goal: peace. river understands grey wing because pacifism has been all he's ever known. he emphasizes with grey, understands how hard it is in a world where nobody is willing to listen to you. they find that peace in each other, and it's unlike any kind of calm they've felt before. they love each other like how a moth loves its guiding light, how a current loves its banks, how the sun kisses inch of the world given to it, how hawks breathe in the open sky. they are unconditional in their adoration, even after one has passed young and the other is busied with duties they never asked for. they see each other in the lands that connect them, see silver fur in the eddies of the river, and golden eyes in the sunset that paints the moor warm again. i think they're kind of neat they devistate me. they jostle me around and make me weep so hard into my hands rghghghgh erins i'm tired of crumbs. give me my gay and my lesbian and my diamoric cats NOW ! i've actually been working on an overhaul of dotc and it includes more their love for each other (AND DOESN'T KILL OFF GREY YET BECAUSE I FELT LIKE HIS DEATH WAS TOO SOON PPUNCHING THE AIR)

BY THE WAY. i have a playlist about them smiley and i just want to say they're always very sleeping at last coded but ESPECIALLY light from atlas: i

and also i was an island by john-allison weiss !!!

i will pick apart these songs and do a study on them from a greyripple viewpoint at a later date because this post? is super long. like really fucking long i've been writing this for like 3 hours now (sweats) BUT YEAH !!! those are my thoughts !!!! it's not very coherent cause it's late and i have school in the morning but whatever i will go on about them more soon, specifically in my overhaul of dotc!! which. as an aside, i really *really* love dotc and i think it's overhated and underappreciated i need more animatics about how tragic the early settlers are damn it

#warriors #warrior cats rant #grey wing #river ripple #riverstar's home #riverstar's home spoilers #dawn of the clans #dawn of the clans spoilers #greyripple #4 life and then some #now that you've let me talk i'm never ever gonna shut up #you've opened pandora's box with this one anon

[residents-of-the-darkforest]

What happens when pregnant queens die and go to the dark forest?

oh, that's a good question.

We see in DotC that unborn kits who died are born in the afterlife. Perhaps they're automatically separated? Or there's an in-between section where they stay until she gives birth (if she can in the afterlife)?

Definitely something I would have to think about!

#ask #thanks for the ask #notaresident #queen #wc queen #dark forest #dotc spoilers #dawn of the clans spoilers

[stickstone]

riverstar’s home excerpt

#warrior cats #riverstar #river ripple #riverstar’s home #riverstar’s home spoilers #dotc #dawn of the clans #wc #wc night #dotc night

[harriertail]

RIVERSTAR’S HOME -  When a storm-tossed river sweeps Ripple away from the park he’s always known, he commits himself to the life of a peaceful loner. Still, as his new island home starts to become a sanctuary for other rogues, he can’t help but feel responsible for their safety, and for the community—and Clan—they are beginning to build. But when a friend from the park reappears with terrible news, the cat now known as Riverstar will have to decide which home he is truly committed to protecting: his new Clan or his old family.

#who is he... #riverstars home #warrior cats #warrior cats spoilers #riverstar #dawn of the clans #um.. i kinda like it tbh but thats not riverstar... looking forward to full cover tho #hmm

[nezumithewriter]

how urban plague is going rn

Kurokumo Clan: I HATE YOU I HATE YOU I HATE YOU WHERE DID YOU PULL THAT DICE FROM AAAAAAAAAAAAAA DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dawn Office: SUCK IT OLD MAN FUCK YOU hi phillip

Musicians of Bremen: FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU— STOP PULLING THE 4-18 DICE OUT OF YOUR ASS MUMU!!!!1!!1!1!1!1!!!

Wedge Office: FUCK YOU I HATE YOU AND YOUR STUPID 81 HEALTH OSCAR!!!!!!! AND YOU TWO, YOU TWO, THE W O M E N. YOU ALL SUCK oh hi phillip

Wedge Office Act 2: OH FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU—

Love Town: yes i have been so afraid

#library of ruina #library of ruina spoilers #lor spoilers #urban plague #library of ruina urban plague #spoilers #kurokumo clan #dawn office #phillip library of ruina #musicians of bremen #wedge office #love town #saving love town for last in my urban plague playthrough #gonna get my ass beat but i love this story too much #nezumi rambling

[gatorsnot]

WARRIOR CATS THUNDER SPOILERS

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damn that curlfeather shit hit uncomfortably close to home for me lads

my bio mom ABSOLUTELY did NEAR IDENTICAL shit. loving the villains in this arc but i was not expecting that

#dawn speaks #warriors #warrior cats #a starless clan #warriors thunder spoilers #curlfeather #riverclan #frostpaw...poor baby girl #i hear ya honey. i hear ya.

[batjoy]

on thunder rising of dotc rn and i have to say shattered ice is the current fav!

will update as needed

#tafm #thunder rising #kinda fucked up erin you have thunder and thunder rising as book titles in series that aren’t remotely related #warrior cats #dotc #dawn of the clans #thunder rising spoilers #dotc spoilers #shattered ice

[irate-iguana]

I have too many memes in my photos app so, uh, Buffyverse meme dump part 1/?

Angel spoilers below:

#sorry about that last one #and technically cordy wakes up in a coma twice — in birthday and in you’re welcome. but in birthday it’s not nearly as devastating #meme dump #buffy the vampire slayer #btvs #angel the series #ats #btvs spoilers #ats spoilers #buffyverse #principal flutie #the pack #daniel oz osbourne #daniel osbourne #new moon rising #faith lehane #dawn summers #tara maclay #lorne #krevlorneswath of the deathwok clan #winnifred burkle #fred burkle #wesley wyndam pryce #wesley wyndam-pryce #angel #sleep tight #cordelia chase #you’re welcome #a hole in the world #original post

[autistfanatic]

Upgrade reading Dawn of the Clans: Thunder

Ohhhh shit! Tall Shadows losing the support of her mountain cats as leader! All because she sent Wind(i think they'll be future WindSTAR, founder of WindClan but I could be wrong) and Gorse away saying only Mountain Cats stay on the moors, Shattered Ice, Gray Wing, Jagged Peak and Thunder dealt with loose dogs and Tall Shadow did fuck all! They want Gray Wing as leader! (I say fuck yes to that!)

#spoilers #dawn of the clans #shattered ice #jagged peak #gray wing #gorse #wind #turtle tail #tall shadow #thunder #acorn fur #lightning tail #cloud spots

[flipseed]

The Rewritten Timeline

Period One

- Ancients: LionClan, TigerClan, LeopardClan rule the forest, told through dramatic epics of lions getting their manes, tigers their stripes, and leopards their spots.

- Dawn: DOTC except they do not come from the Tribe of Rushing Water or the ancient cats from the lake. they are descendants of tigers and lions and leopards, with the five clans taking traits from the three big ones and dividing the forest amongst them to share in peace and harmony. there's the in between the AE and DOTC, with the Tale of Two Brothers (Gray Wing & Clear Sky), One Eye's Demise which created the Dark Forest, the Bloodiest Battle and the creation of StarClan, and Moth Flight's Vision which led to the Moonstone and creation of medicine cats. Thunderstar and Skystar are not father/son in this au. All Clan founders are the same age in this au 👍

- Might of Justice/Code Era: the warrior code is established in a series of events that have since become fables. The tradition of the Gathering on the full moon is also established by Birchstar of SkyClan after the events of Cloudberry's Lament. Half-moon meeting for medicine cats is also established in this era by Swiftfoot of WindClan during the events of The Medicine Cats Decide

- Skyfall Era: SkyClan gets driven out. The name initially puts blame on SkyClan, but this era is eventually referred to as StarClan's Failing or The Four's Secret in modern versions of the stories

Period Two

- Golden Era: After SkyClan was forced out of their home, the four remaining Clans seemed to prosper, proving to those who sympathized with SkyClan that they were better off without them and the four Clans were righteous. Peace and harmony were restored for a brief period, until Ripplestar's attack

- Bloodstained Era: The Clans quickly fell into old habits of killing and plundering one another, still relatively lawless in regards to battles and borders. Four new rules were added during this era in order to prevent the copius amount of bloodshed that had happened without rules to guide the Clan cats. The Clans realized that in order to distinguish themselves from rogues, they had to maintain some semblance of dignity and honor as well as respect for each other

Period Three

- Secrecy Era: The Clans stopped relying on each other and Gatherings became short due to each Clan trying to prevent inter-Clan romances after Mapleshade's death. Oakstar is also conducting his raids on Twolegplace during this time in order to appease StarClan and make sure none of his warriors betray him again

- Thunder's Beginning Era: Goosefeather's birth marks the beginning of this era. His prophecies changed ThunderClan, and by extension all five Clans, forever. Pinestar's Secret was added to the code during this era and an interpretation of the code began to gain traction: where loyalty is stressed, might = right, and some rules are deemed not as important or are tossed completely. This era ends with Brokenstar succeeding Raggedstar

- Fire Alone Era: Rusty is brought into ThunderClan and eventually becomes Firestar. This era covers the events of the first series and ends with Scourge's demise. This era also establishes the banning of cruel renaming in the code. Also Longtail is made deputy instead of Graystripe at the end 👍. After Longtail loses his vision, he steps down as deputy and then Graystripe is chosen 😊.

Period Four

- Midnight Era: This era covers the events of Brambleclaw and crew leaving to the Clans making it to the lake

- Sunset Era: Begins with Tallstar making Onestar leader instead of Mudclaw and basically the second half of TNP. Ends with Firestar choosing Brambleclaw as his deputy in replacement of the missing Graystripe

Period Five

Some cats argue if Period Five and Four are actually separate, since all the events that happened are so close together time-wise, but others argue they are distinct and separate due to the different prophecies that ruled both periods

- Beyond Stars Era: Covers basically all of PoT, with changes to who knows about the Three and Sol's influence and Firestar dying in the fire scene. Hollyleaf's Gathering outburst is what officially adds the medicine cats can't have kits rule to the code

- Omens/Apocalypse Era: Covers all of OotS, with Bramblestar taking over ThunderClan and Rowanstar taking over ShadowClan. The Clans are uneasy with Hollyleaf's disappearance, since they all thought she was part of the Three. Dovewing's discovery of her own powers puts most cats' minds at ease. There are small groups of cats in each Clan that fear the Three and their power and believe they are going to bring the worst and destroy the Clans with their power. This era ends with the Great Battle

- Recovery Era: Dovewing's Silence & Bramblestar's Storm take place during this time, where the Clans are trying to decide how to deal with the DF trainees and the loss of a good chunk of their Clanmates. Two new rules are added to the code during this time. One for dealing with DF trainees and Bramblestar's rule about helping the Clans

Period Six

- Return of SkyClan Era: covers all of AVoS, Hawkwing's Journey, and Tigerheart's Shadow. The Kin stays for longer this time, Onestar and Darktail still die together but at the end instead, and Tree's mediator position is added to the code

- Longest Night/Cruel Season/Ashfur's Reign Era: begins with the long leaf-bare and ends with Bristlefrost's double death and the restructuring of the code

#warror cats #wc #wc spoilers #dotc #dawn of the clans #the prophecies begin #tpb #tnp #warriors tnp #power of three #omen of the stars #oots #rewrite #timeline #au timeline #wc au #warriors au #au

[the-duck-billed-platypus]

Clearsky:

*let's Misty (rouge) get killed for being close too his border*

*finds out she was defending her kits*

*suggest that they kill her kits*

--

*attacks Bumble (kittypet) and leaves her bleeding out*

*a fox finishes her off shortly after*

Graywing his brother:

*accuses his of being a murderer*

Clearsky:

#warrior cats #dawn of the clans #dawn of the clan spoilers #warrior cat spoilers #clearsky #graywing #bumble wc #misty wc #ancient clans

[flambeaufelid]

Warrior Cats Chronological Liveblogging Part 1 - Dawn of the Clans - The Sun Trail - Prologue & Chapter 1

Prologue

Oh Warrior cat's prologues, how I hate thee. But that's not unique to Warriors. I find that prologues are often a huge turn-off. Starting a story with a bunch of vaguery is an easy way to disengage me. But maybe this one will exceed my expectations?

So far, yes, actually! It's doing a good enough job setting up a situation that'll be immediately relevant, and giving us some fanservice in the form of an appearance from Lion's Roar and Half-Moon! Fun.

Half-Moon gets our first divine intervention: a bright glowing sunlight that only she can see. This apparently means, according to her, that she needs to fracture her group, and send a bunch of people away, so that they won't starve. Amazing and coherent logic as always, Warriors...

Also she's still simping for Jay's Wing lmao. Bitch his fucking soul is time traveling or some shit.

...Okay, probably she gets to spend time in the afterlife with him in the time before he reincarnates, but I'm not sure they ever confirm that explicitly. So. Sad.

Chapter 1

Here we meet our POV character, Gray Wing. Lame name for a main character, honestly, compared to the others. Not to mention that we see his name RIGHT after seeing the name Jay's Wing, and I bet that caused someone out there to conflate the two.

...Unless he's another reincarnation of Jay's Wing, which would be hilarious, but also not make sense, so it's definitely not the case. It's such a stupid idea that I'm almost proud of it though.

First mention of Clear Sky! I remember him being the most interesting character of the part of the arc that I got through as a kid (first ~three books or so?), slipping in and out of a hyper-violent psychosis or something- though I feel like we don't see any of that this book.

Not a fan of how this initial scene characterizes them. It sets Grey Wing up as some kind of ahead-of-his-time good guy, by having him adhere to a standard of unselfishness that would become a formal rule in the decades to come. Meanwhile, Clear Sky gives us a hint of his dark side, being put out by his brother's insistence that they give away their catch.

Grey Wing insists that they'll be fine, because they're the best hunters in the tribe- but in that case, they could bring back whatever they catch next... I mean, I get that there are legitimately cats that need it more, starving kittens and all, but I don't think it's invalid for Clear Sky to want to eat the food he caught, and I'm annoyed that it's being used as a way of hinting at him being evil. I think that moral systems that villainize the absence of good actions rather than the presence of bad ones are prone to asking far too much of people.

...I mean, you could argue that it isn't actually hinting at any of that about these characters at all, and I'm reading into it too much, especially considering that Clear Sky relents easily, and that Grey Wing thinks that his brother knows this is the right thing to do. But then, this scene would be somewhat pointless. So.

And now this hawk that was described as scrawny is described as huge. Grey Wing says "it wont feed every cat". Implying that it comes anywhere close to doing so... maybe? I think??? Most of the cats in the clan proceed to get one bite. Top tier descriptions Erins! Not confusing at all. It's a minor problem, sure, but I fear this will be a reoccurring issue now that I'm old enough to notice such things while reading.

Bright Stream is introduced, and immediately shown to be a love interest for clear sky.

Followed... by... a sex joke...????? A really heavily veiled one, because these books are ostensibly for kids, but it's still slightly more risqué than usual.

Half-Moon tells everybody that they should leave because she's dreamed of a place full off sunlight. Grey Wing thinks that's stupid. Clear Sky thinks that sounds great. Bright stream is unsure, but immediately gets judgy over the idea that Clear Sky might go without her, rather than continuing to suffer the cold and starvation...

And that's the end of chapter one.

Back to masterpost.

#spoilers #warriors #warrior cats #liveblog #masterpost #warriors spoilers #warrior cats spoilers #Dawn of the Clans #The Sun Trail

[pinestorm]

Quick warriors opinion,, dawn of the clans spoiler.

I refuse to believe that Quiet Rains and Jagged Peaks reunion was sour or that she insulted him like she did. She was a worried and loving mother.

In their reunion they would have been ecstatic to see eachother and she would be patient and loving with his kits.

#warrior cats #spoilers #dawn of fhe clans #headcanon

[lasnevadaslaborunion]

I'm wayyyyy behind on this series and still catching up, but so far, Dawn of the Clans is the best arc of Warriors since the original six

#just my opinion #having a smaller group of new cats means the writers have time to flesh out everyone's personalities #gray wing is such a wonderful and relatable protagonist and his dynamic with clear sky is great #the romances are given much more space to breathe (aside from storm. who. SPOILER. just HAD to die because... uh. angst) #also. i think it's funny that every pre-DOTC source described shadowclan's founder as this paranoid vicious battle-hungry cat #and then working my way through Thunder Rising i was like... ''aw. she just has anxiety and poor self esteem'' :( #anyway. yes dawn of the clans is very very good so far #reminds me why i loved this series so much as a kid #warrior cats

[luckyswarriordesigns]

Thunderstar

#thunderstar #thunder #leader #thunderclan #first settler #dawn of the clans #no joke I cannot get through dotc it’s just too boring #so yes I am giving myself spoilers

[maybehesitate]

did anyone else as a kid read Dawn of the Clans thinking Greywings mate, Slate, was male and then got really confused when she got pregnant? Or was that just me?

#Warrior cats #warrior cats spoilers #dawn of the clans