I think what non-destiel shippers / antihellers don't understand about shipping destiel is that they think it's about having two guys together on screen. Which I mean, that's awesome, don't get me wrong, queer rep is important. But more importantly, I feel like Dean Winchester deserves to have someone who loves him and takes care of him and wants him in a way that no one else ever has. And while obviously he loved Lisa, and Lisa loved him back, it's not the same because Lisa could never understand him and know him (for all the good and all the bad) in the same way that Cas does.
You could say that this doesn't necessarily have to be a romantic love, but goddamn it, doesn't he deserve that? Deserved to be loved? Are you telling me that Sam gets to have a wife and a kid when he's in Heaven but Dean doesn't get to have someone like that? Dean never got to meet someone and fall in love again like Sam did. Is Dean just supposed to meet someone in Heaven? Could he even meet someone in Heaven who would understand and love him the way Cas does?
A lot of people I've talked to are usually split between believing that Dean either reciprocates Cas' feelings or he doesn't, and people will try to provide proof either way. But honestly, while I personally do believe Dean reciprocates, it could go either way depending on how the story is written. What I honestly think the most is that I hope he does. I hope he loves Cas back because Cas is his one chance at finding that happiness, especially after his life was cut short. I hope that he gets to spend his days with the person he loves because he deserves it! I hope that he finally gets to love fully and be fully loved in return for the first time.
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I read a tweet today of a Destiel shipper saying what a tragedy it is that a “beautiful queer love story like Dean and Castiel wasn’t allowed to be talked about or acknowledged.”
Do those type of shippers, I wouldn’t call this specific person a heller though, really not understand why?
Destiel is, at the very best of times, a one sided love story IF you choose to interpret Castiel telling Dean he loved him as romantic. I do not, personally. Otherwise he would have said I’m *in* love with you. To me there’s a big difference. Especially with wording when it’s supposed to be the Big Confession™️. Plus I’m real tired of these Hellers telling me I’m homophobic with 0 evidence to back that claim up other than I pissed them off because I won’t back their version of Supernatural rather than actual canon.
Anyway, back to the original point. Destiel wasn’t a “banned topic” at first. It wasn’t until a couple years into its popularity that people (fans, cast, writers) started to stop talking about the ship at large. When the Destiel shippers really started to get that it was never going to happen. Why? Because they started harassing, bullying and telling people who didn’t ship it to go off themselves. Thus the term “desti-heller” showed up. There is a difference between a heller and your normal Destiel shipper. That harassment by the hellers got INTENSE. I remember when they went after Samantha Smith on Twitter.
Why would anyone want to talk about the ship when it’s shippers would malignly attack you when you wouldn’t support their narrative? To act like it’s just homophobia that prevented Destiel from being canon is hysterical to me. Dean was not/is not gay or bi-sexual. Castiel really can’t be defined by terms such as gay, straight, bi-sexual etc because he’s not human. He operates outside the boxes of human sexuality. Hell, the only reason we call him “him” is because Jimmy Novak is a man.
Personally I think Castiel’s story is beautiful as it comes full circle. When we first meet him he doesn’t care about The Winchesters or humanity. It ends with him telling a human he loves him. With him viewing The Winchesters as his family. More so than his angel siblings ever were to him. More so than God ever was to him. It ends with him being together with his “son” that he shares with Sam and Dean. Yes, Dean AND Sam. I know the hellers love to cut Sam out of everything to make it the Dean and Cas show. Don’t get me started on the latest discourse about who knows Dean better: Sam or Castiel. If you’re saying Castiel for that one then I really don’t know what show you’re watching.
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“You’re Losing Me” By Taylor Swift is THE later season Destiel song, specifically from Castiel’s perspective.
If somebody has already said this then… uh, uh, uh- :3
Immediately, the first lines suit the two of them SO well:
Dean not understanding why he and Sam were set up for the fate that they were: Michael and Lucifer, Cain and Abel 2.0, Angel and Demon. Cass was there to tell him that he doesn’t always get it either. Take the bench scene from 04x07 for example:
“You misunderstood me, Dean, I’m not like you think. I was praying that you would choose to save the town.”
“I’m not a hammer, as you say, I have questions; I have doubts. I don’t know what is right or what is wrong anymore.”
Cass was always willing to explain and guide, even in times when Dean had lost almost all hope. He and Dean used to appreciate the world for its beauty and delicacy. Now it’s over and Cass sits in The Empty (the dark).
Dean became so complicated and angry as the seasons progressed. He was always so contradictory and Cass kept getting confused and lost. He got kicked out by Dean and barely even knew why. He didn’t know if everything they had become had been tossed out.
He kept rising from the ashes metaphorically and literally. Metaphorically, when he was kicked down by Dean (or anyone for that matter), he would get back up and continue to help the Winchesters for the greater good. He was stronger than he got credit for.
Dean’s anger and isolation made it nearly impossible for either Cass or Sam to communicate with him. He turned them away, got angry, broke things, drank too much, or acted plain arrogant. Eventually Cass was getting fed up (rightfully so).
Cass and HIS CANON GLARE- when he gets so angry that he glares instead of speaking because that spoke louder. Because he knew Dean wouldn’t listen to a damn word he would say.
Dean once called him a brother, but now he said that the only constant in their plans ‘s downfalls seems to be Castiel:
“The plan changed Dean, something went wrong, you know this, something always goes wrong.”
“Then why does that something always seem to be you.”
All Cass wanted was to talk, instead Dean turned it into his fault completely and blamed him for things out of his control (Mary, Jack, Rowena…).
Their air was always thick with loss off hunters, loss of battles, loss of hope. It was full of indecision of how to move forward when all possibilities seemed like dead ends.
Each time that they were in a situation that they felt stuck in Dean would be mad. Dean would take that anger out on Cass as if his presence at all was an imposition.
Dean never realized truly how much he loved Cass until Cass was gone to The Empty, for good.
THIS BRIDGE WAS FUCKING WRITTEN FOR THEM AND I WILL NOT ACCEPT A DENIAL OF THIS STATEMENT ‼️‼️
They were THE sad song for ELEVEN years. Eventually when Dean almost killed Castiel’s son in front of him, that pushed Cass over the edge. That was enough. Cass had given him everything. Cass rebelled against heaven for Dean, he lost everything for Dean. He dealt with Dean’s hot and cold temper for YEARS without complaint, only compassion.
“AND ALL I DID WAS BLEED AS I TRIED TO BE THE BRAVEST SOLDIER !! FIGHTING IN ONLY YOUR ARMY FRONTLINES DON’T YOU IGNORE ME”
That lyric IS Castiel. Prove me wrong, you can’t.
Cass always wanted Dean to just see him, and in the glimpses Dean did, Cass was his happiest. But, as the seasons progressed Dean stopped outwardly appreciating Cass at all. All he showed him was frustration and anger.
1. “Do something, babe, say something” is versatile. Early season Dean would say it to early season Cass. It is also 15x03 Cass saying: “I tried to talk to you over and over again, but you don’t care. I’m… dead to you.”
2. “Lose something, babe, risk something” Early season Dean to early season Cass.
3. “Choose something, babe, i got nothing” LATE SEASON CASS TO LATE SEASON DEAN !! Specifically 15x03 (again <3) when Cass says “Jack’s dead. Chuck’s gone. You and Sam have each other. I think it’s time for me to move on.” HE WAS SAYING HE HAD NOTHING LEFT.
This song is just so Destiel coded and I cannot keep this in my head or I will explode.
PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE if u have imput reblog or whatever and talk about it because lyrical ships are SO important to me.
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So, I've been thinking of how hellers celebrate November 5th for the past three years. Seeing that's the date of castiel's death(finally, should have been gone long before this episode), you would think they would crawl back into their holes and bawl over his death. Yet they make new memes, celebrate and annoy the other 99% of the fandom.
His death is like the major thing that happened in that episode of Supernatural that aired on that date.
Sure, castiel had his big PLATONIC declaration of love for Dean. Yeah, he loved Dean as a brother. He loved how he taught him so much about humans. How to love and have emotions. Dean taught him so much about be free to make his own decisions and free will. Heck, Dean even helped castiel when he was nothing more than a human working at a Gas-N-Sip and had a crush on his FEMALE boss. He asked Dean for advice when he thought she was asking him to out on a date.
Even as a genderless angel, castiel always liked WOMEN. There was so much obvious sexual tension between him and the demon Meg. Megstiel even went cannon. They shared a passionate kiss. Meg even gave up her demon ways to pretend to be a nurse in order to stay with castiel in the mental hospital after he took on Sam's mental health issues from him purposely opening the wall in Sam's mind that was stopping him from feeling what his soul went through in hell locked in the cage with Lucifer.
Their delusional ship crashed and burned for good on November 5th. It never was and will be cannon.
They badly need to deal with the fact that Dean was/is 100% cannon straight and always will be. Jensen has said time and time again Dean is straight and that's how he played him. Eric Kripke himself and show writers have said Dean is straight.
It doesn't help that misha collins will not stand up and make them stop. Instead, he eggs them on with their delusions and panders to their sick, twisted delusional ship. He should be ashamed of how his actions has affected his co worker that he claims is his friend. Jensen looks like he would rather be anywhere else them is a photo op with misha, especially if hellers are trying to push destiel in the op.
I say we start making memes commemorating castiels death and post them all over social media on November 5th next year. Nothing mean just posts/memes in his memory.
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Said I wasn't going to do it but finally got into with a stupid Destiel on ticktock.
It was a vid about Dean and some clown said how he was bi and in love with Asstiel they had that cowboy Dean and Asstiel scene for an icon.
I said canon Dean is straight etc etc.
They said I missed all the looks Dean gave Asstiel and the mix tape.
I said I look at people too doesnt mean you love them
And the best part they answered well someone like you will always deny Destiel even when the fuck, kiss etc.
I answered well when they do fuck, kiss ON SCREEN then sure I will acknowledge Destiel but till then I will stick with canon.
Just waiting to see if they call be homophobic XD.
Oh and they said that I don't know or understand Dean. I said coming from someone who thinks he is Gay thats is so funny
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