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paranoid-rhythm · 19 days
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Fate/Grand Order COMIC à la carte PLUS! SP Showdown!
Ashiya Douman VS Dioscuri
TL & Typeset by yours truly.
Right, so, edited to add AU's commentary below.
Au's commentary
【Douman】
I think that due to his position as an onmyouji and as a bonze, he places an emphasis on formality and rituals. Whatever his motivation may be, he can't help but go through these motions (though there are times that he stops abrubptly), it's like "if he has to do it anyway, it's more interesting to do it this way." In addition, it was a confrontation against the Dioscuri.
The Dioscuri, gods who connect with humans through "rituals" that play an important role in religion and faith, and whose way of being can be influenced and altered by man, in contrast with Ashiya Douman, one who blasphemes even gods themselves, one who guides humans by "looking up to the heavens and divining the stars." The ritual was brought about when Douman thought that he wanted to perform the steps to carry out the purifying ritual (monomi^), but he did not want to be the one to be shut in, so he made someone else disappear instead.
(^物忌み - monomi; an onmyou practice of shutting oneself inside the house on inauspicious days to avoid misfortune.)
In simpler terms, it's an act to purify one's body and soul by cutting off impurities, as such, Castor was furious at not only being suddenly separated from his sister, but also for being judged as "defective." (Although Castor's anger was at the forefront, his bond level is assumed to be high, because he rushed into the scene, out of concern regarding the abnormal situation, and for his Master's safety.)
【Dioscuri】
・Castor's Saint Graph is deficient, due to his separation from Pollux (derived from the Dioscuri interlude). ・In addition, it was difficult to stop Douman with a god's power, as due to Douman's spell, it was a situation where no divinity other than Douman's was functioning.
As for the "stronger truth (for the Master)" that Holmes mentioned, at this part, the Master was reminded of Dioscuri Castor's return gift from Valentine's, St. Elmo's Fire. One aspect of the Dioscuri is being the guardians of navigation, the guiding light, the "star" shining in the heavens.
Castor's return gift, based on the circumstances of the event scenario, is interpreted here as a blessing given by the Dioscuri only to the Master. A "truth" that was clear to the Master, that even if no one else knew about it, without any doubt, they have received this blessing. At that moment, the Master, who is the key figure in this divine ritual, overrode the "Dioscuri" by strongly recognizing them as "stars" rather than the "twin gods". Thus, this is the process that allowed Pollux to be revived.
【The Master of Hell】
Though it has various meanings, it revolves mainly about Seimei's episode with the "Taizanfukugun", and the "Taizanfukugun Festival^".
(^An onmyou festival, revering "Taizanfugun", a god from ancient China that was syncretized with the Buddhist king Enma, and was believed to rule over human lifespan and fortune. It was a popular festival among court nobles during the Heian period, and it was the festival that the onmyou family, the Abe clan, excelled at.)
Taizanfukugun is a major deity in onmyoudo, in Buddhism, considered as one of the ten kings of hell (sometimes equated with King Enma). The main implication of this image is that he is able to interfere with even the forces of hell and use them as if they were his own.
In this sense, Seimei should be the one who's more suited for hell, so what point would there be if the Master falls into hell? Would there be any meaning after that? In the first place, the Master would certainly not fall without a fight. And if they decided to, they would jump in without hestation, which is for Douman, also infuriating.
How does Douman see the greatest onmyouji? Did he collectively likened that person to the emotions swirling around him? Was it through the story of that person's resurrection, their travels through the world of that time, that equated to them easily conquering even Hell? Or is it something else entirely?
Whether he gives it his all or not, I feel that for Douman, there seems to be a fundamental ambiguity in self-affirmation, making him think "If I'm like this, then that person must be even better", regardless of Douman's own level of ability.
【Companion/Attendant】
When the Master pledged that they were determined to take Douman with them, even if it meant dragging him along with them, I wanted to show a "contrast" that showed their difference from Seimei, expressed through the rather exaggerated "Master allowed themselves to be accompanied / Seimei will never allow himself to be accompanied."
It's like "I said I liked apples, but he didn't say he liked apples. So he must hate apples.", something to that extreme. From Douman's point of view, that's how it must have been.
Furthermore, most of the passages in which Douman refers to Seimei are all from his perspective.
-The following is a digression -
・Sanson and Asclepius These two were the ones originally from Showdown Part 1. Originally, there was no scene in which these two talked to each other, but I hope those who read the previous comic will notice it.
This too, is a story about "humans" and "demigods (children of Apollo)".
(By the way, I was able to draw Asclepius in his second ascension for this FGO comicalized series.)
・At the beginning, I wanted to make the Master upset by making (Douman) say, "I killed her,'' but the response got boring so I changed it up.
・Buddha's great vows - this is the Bodhisattva's vast desire to save all sentient beings. In short, this was a hugely sarcastic remark towards the Master, as if to say "Your determination and your theatrical declaration are both truly admirable!" However, it also suggests that even if they would have to get various people to help their cause, the Master might just be able to pull it off.
・I was able to finish Holmes' panels in just one day.
・The last panel I drew was Douman's left side.
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moplopbool · 4 months
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Jason and the argonauts as requested!
I know Atalanta isn’t a part of the argonauts in most interpretations, but I needed an excuse to draw her…
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solokabuto · 9 months
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illustratus · 2 months
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Temple of the Dioscuri at the Roman Forum
by Carlo Labruzzi
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incorrecthomer · 29 days
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Castor: i fucked ur mom Pollux: you are my brother, dumbass. we have the same mother Castor: then your father Pollux: I don't even know him
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throwawaybog · 3 months
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constantly thinking abt penelope (as one does) and of childhood.
give me penelope and her siblings. give me penelope and her cousins. give me castor and pollux and clytemnestra and helen. give me agamemnon and menelaus in exile. i NEED to know the stuff they got into. the shit they did. back when they were still kids.
the stuff they, older now and welcoming their children into the world, thought their own kids would be doing together one day, before the gods and the war and the tragedy that followed
something about growing up together, knowing each other, loving each other. god. they grew up together like how does that not drive you wild. maybe this is bc i grew up in a big family surrounded by a lot of cousins, and im still surrounded by that family even though many of them have moved further away, but there are times when ill go months without seeing them, and yet when i do, its like no time at all has passed. we jump right back into it. and the people i meet now will never know me the way the people i knew then do.
its just. they grew up together, they shaped each other, who else will know them in this way. and you see it! you see it when penelope defends helen! bc she knows her! thats her cousin, thats her childhood passed, she knows her still. loves her always.
(there was somewhere i was going with this but then i was overcome with the all of it, and now ive lost that train of thought and all thats left is the reinforced need for their childhood in sparta, and perhaps a reunion post-odyssey. i crave it. agamemnon and clytemnestra for obvious reasons wont be making it but)
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castor: sister you should give master a nice valentine present oh but not TOO nice im gonna hang around and remind them it was a collaborative effort
castor: anyway
castor: one of a kind blessing coming right up! lol pollux whats wrong w you why are you banging your head against the floor?
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kosmic-autokrat · 2 months
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so I had An Idea
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Bracket F, Round 1 (Match 5)
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thexvthmember · 11 months
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9 out of my (currently) 13 Grailed Servants
Kotarou is currently at Level 104, but I’m planning to go all the way to 120 (saving up Coins for his last Append Skill)
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savrr · 1 year
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For how long will you remain divine? human? readable. remembered?
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solokabuto · 9 months
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incorrecthomer · 2 months
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Pollux: Is stabbing someone immoral? Penelope: Not if they consent to it. Clytemnestra: Depends who you’re stabbing. Helen: YES?!?
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startwins-2ndera · 11 days
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DIOSCURI: Chapter 8: JEALOUSY Click for better quality. SPOILER WARNING FOR DIOSCURI!
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Lackencil: Of course, it's all over the news. The great and powerful Admiral Eli'vant fainted in public. And now he can't even bother to show--
Eli: Apologies for being late, Your Venerate.
Art below
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And the other half:
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