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soggy-fishsticks · 2 days
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I FINALLY COLORED IT 😜😜😜😜🤞🤞🤞
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President Shinra: *about young!Vincent* Autism be damned that boy can shoot a gun.
Veld: *stares at him*
President Shinra: … I’m trying to be supportive.
Veld: The sad thing is that I believe you.
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foxtrottcantfindshit · 16 hours
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Ready for my assortment? Thinking lots about Turk Vincent but also >:) valenwind plagues me
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westillus · 13 hours
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Hmmm body swap idea…
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saanaitoo · 3 days
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girl who does not play about vincent valentine
yeah i like to think he has a reason to hide his forehead with bandana and wear that arm armor thingy
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michanvalentine · 2 days
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I'll start by saying that canonically Hojo is Sephiroth's father. And I don't think that will change.
Nonetheless, Square Enix is playing with fans and their expectations. In fact, in the Rebirth Vincent is more centered on Sephiroth than on Hojo, as he was in the OG. However, we need to understand in what sense.
Vincent's statement "our bond is unique" is also very peculiar. It would have made more sense to me for him to say "my bond with Sephiroth is this or that", because "ours" sounds mutual. And as we know Sephiroth and Vincent in the OG never met.
However, if Vincent was Sephiroth's father, the statement would make more sense. Even if Sephiroth didn't know of Vincent's existence, theirs would indeed be a unique bond. As well as a mutual connection.
However, it could be a translation/adaptation inaccuracy.
In any case, such a statement would be at least bold on Vincent's part, because at most he could have the suspicion of being Sephiroth's father. No certainty. Unless they want to completely change the story of Vincent, Lucrecia and Hojo, of course. But I don't think that's the case.
Furthermore, if Vincent knew for sure that he was Sephiroth's father, this would imply that Lucrecia would also be perfectly aware of it. And that she nevertheless gave Vincent's son to science.
After everything that has happened between them and after everything that Vincent has suffered, I suppose this would really be too much for him, especially when in theory Lucrecia is supposed to love Vincent.
And if everything else she did can be explained by feelings of guilt and her desire to save his life, giving up her and Vincent's baby is not. There would be no excuse for this.
If this were the case Lucrecia would come out of this really badly and could only save herself if Hojo forced her to experiment in utero. But this would obviously completely change the story and the characters.
No, Lucrecia mentally conceived this child from the beginning as an experiment. Because she thought she was able to remain detached and not think of him as a baby. Her baby.
So I guess the "bond" Vincent talks about is actually related to his other statement "I've had many opportunities to purge him from this world. Unfortunately… I couldn't pull the trigger."
If we take it in a literal sense it means that they met on several occasions, even if we are not given to know what happened, if they spoke to each other and about what.
One of the most probable moments is of course the Nibelheim incident, when Sephiroth actually shows clear signs of madness that would justify Vincent pointing a weapon at him.
In any case, if Vincent was Sephiroth's father he couldn't know for sure. And even Lucrecia might believe he is Hojo's son.
In DoC the scientist had already proposed to her, in fact he was waiting for her with open arms the moment she left Vincent (the "so you've come to your senses and chosen me" moment). So no much time must have passed between the breakup with Vincent and the fateful "yes, doctor". And Lucrecia could easily have been unaware that she was already pregnant at the time.
In this scenario, perhaps only Hojo could know the truth, perhaps discovered by chance by carrying out tests on Sephiroth that include DNA analysis. Or Lucrecia realizing the truth only afterwards.
It would be a reverse twist if Hojo confessed on Sister Ray that Vincent is actually Sephiroth's father! Or it could be Lucrecia who directly reveals the truth to him during the meeting in the crystal cave.
A secret that for poor Vincent would have more or less the impact of a Meteor crashing directly into his heart. Poor guy, he's already been through a lot. This would certainly be the final blow.
If instead we leave the imagination completely free, then we can think of a scenario in which Vincent knows for sure that he is Sephiroth's father, which is why he was actually taken out of the way by Hojo with a gunshot.
In that case he would have had every right to interfere with the experiment and claim the child for himself.
His fate wouldn't change much, because he would still be shot down and experimented on. However, the character of Lucrecia would undergo a clear characterization for better or worse.
She would become either a poor woman forced by the evil Hojo to sacrifice her child on the altar of science or an unscrupulous scientist willing to do anything to achieve her goal exactly like Hojo. In this case I can't imagine a middle ground.
Vincent's statements in Rebirth would then acquire a completely different meaning because the "unique bond" would actually be that between father and son.
The most unique ever.
And as for "I couldn't pull the trigger," it's not hard to imagine this parent struggling to pull himself together after everything he's been through and searching for his son.
For short periods, given the physical and also psychological need to return to the oblivion of sleep. Not to mention that the monsters/demons inside him can be dangerous to others.
Perhaps he could only see him from afar, perhaps he met him briefly, since Sephiroth has always been under the watchful and merciless eye of Shinra.
Maybe he couldn't or wasn't able to tell him the truth for fear of making the situation worse (dredging up the past could bring to light uncomfortable details, such as the very fact that Sephiroth is an experiment); and deep inside him Vincent already felt that there was something wrong with that boy… until the fateful accident in Nibelheim, where all of Vincent's darkest fears finally took real shape.
Naturally and for obvious reasons, Vincent could not pull the trigger. Even though it might have been the right thing to do.
To conclude, the idea of Vincent as Sephiroth's father has always fascinated me.
I've also used it in some fanfiction, but to make it canon you'd have to fix a lot of situations and characters that I don't think they have any intention of fixing. But I also can't know how far the developers will go with the remake. We will see!
Meanwhile, what I like to fantasize about is that a Sephiroth born from the love of Lucrecia and Vincent would be a Sephiroth to whom part of his humanity would be returned. And I'd like to explore to what extent…
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cheseely · 7 days
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priceofreedom · 2 months
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Dirge of Cerberus 2 / ?
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viny-kun · 2 months
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FF7 REBIRTH IS HERE! I really wanted to celebrate with my favorite character ever and his evolution ❤️ (yes yes I know it won’t be playable but I’m very happy to see him!). I wish you all a good game!
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katkeyboardmastah · 4 months
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Recently beaten the Vincent Valentine game™ so here's some arts!
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phantomyre · 3 months
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Happy 18th Anniversary, Dirge of Cerberus!
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spookynyan · 4 months
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They're best friends
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A Vincent page I did a week ago.
Scrapping for time right now so it’s all I got. Plus the highlights!
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Angeal: Who else is hiding in the laundry room trying to listen to Lazard and Reeve 's convo?
Genesis: Me. I'm in the laundry basket.
Sephiroth: I'm in the closet.
Zack: We accept you Seph <3
Sephiroth: No I'm literally in the closet.
Zack: Love is love <3
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ventowol · 8 months
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vince
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hecate-valentine · 8 months
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please square i am begging you for my vampire bf
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