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theclockworkmonk · 3 months ago
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I feel like people don't talk enough about how insane the ending of Kung Fu Panda is.
There's an almost-universal truism in kids' movies that the hero can't kill anyone. Not even the Big Bad, no matter how warranted it is in the moment or how much the audience wants it. You simply can't do that. Heroes don't kill.
There are exceptions, but this truism is especially universal in the studio that's practically synonymous with kids' films: Disney.
That's why so many Disney villains end up accidentally killing themselves. Usually by falling off of something:
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I can only think of four heroes in the entire Disney catalog that deliberately, intentionally choose to kill a sapient, intelligent villain, and all of them were self-defensive and in the heat of the moment, where sparing the villain wasn't an option:
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(Note: I have seen most Disney movies, but not all of them)
....and then Dreamworks came along, said "fuck that," and had their goofy, lovable Jack Black character ice a motherfucker just 'cause.
Po has already completely won the fight. The day has been saved. He has Tai Lung at his mercy. Tai Lung is terrified:
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And Po's not even reluctant about it. There's no burden of responsibility. He doesn't even give his thoroughly beaten opponent a chance to surrender or be banished or something. They didn't just have Po kill, they had him enjoy it because his method of murder is so wicked cool.
Po is a hero in a kids' movie who not only kills his villain, but fucking executes him. All with that signature Dreamworks smirk on his face:
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I have gazed into the abyss, and the abyss said "skadoosh."
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marauders4evr · 9 months ago
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Disney just released a trailer for a Cruella de Vil movie and...
I cannot overemphasize how there’s a difference between making a book/movie to make people sympathize with the fairytale-esque villain who reacted to a personal slight in a fantastical way and making a film/movie to make people sympathize with the villain who is supposed to be an obvious metaphor for oppression and/or cruelty! (Note: You can make a fun movie about a villain, i/e: ‘Watch them burn down the world!’ but Disney always seems to go for the more sympathetic route, and if the amount of shots of crying-Cruella are any indication, that’s what they’re going for, here.)
Wicked? (I know it’s not Disney but everyone wants to be Wicked, so I can’t not include it.) Works. The original Witch was a minor antagonist with no real motives or real-world connections (odds are we’re never going to be chased through the lands by a woman wanting our shoes) and the Wizard was always canonically a lying showman, so having a book/musical where his lies paint her as the villain, and him as the hero, works.
Maleficent? On thin ice but still works. She was slighted by the society in the original movie, so as much of a Wicked ripoff as it is, it’s still a very creative analysis on the other ways she could have been slighted, plus they make her the real hero in the end, and, again, there’s a disconnect because odds are none of us are going to be cursed by the fae (though let me tell you, living in the UK, I’m closer than I’ve ever been).
I read this Lion King book series as a kid, and one of the volumes was about how Scar was really born with the name ‘Taka’ (translation: garbage) and how he was treated like shite by his parents, who loved Mufasa. That worked. It never excused his past, but it showed a sympathetic side that made you realize things aren’t always black and white. (This series isn’t canonical, by the way, though Kopa absolutely should be.) And, I cannot overstate this, there was a disconnect because no reader will be thrown over a cliff by a lion!
Even Twisted works as a clever indie pastiche!
But if you’re going for sympathy, you can’t use villains that represent real-life evil and oppression!
I saw a book, several years ago, that was like, “Do you want to know all about Mother Gothel’s story?” No tf I don’t! No matter how well-written it is. Rapunzel’s dynamic with Gothel hits so close to him that the palm is on the bricks! I don’t ever, at any given point in my life, want to hear that fictional abusive parent’s voice, because that’s absolutely not the voice that should be heard. (It’s the same reason I detest any theories about Frollo. “Do you want to know why this religious man abused this disabled child?” I’m good.)
They announced, last year, that they were making a spinoff about Gaston. Because if there’s anything people want to see, it’s the movie about the gaslighting, stalking, bundle of toxic masculinity. /s
Now, Disney’s like, “Do you want to know more about the rich CEO who wants to murder puppies? Do you want to sympathize with the puppy murderer? All she wants to do is murder puppies :(.”
I just...you’re not going to be Birds of Prey. You’re not going to be Wicked. This isn’t how you create sympathetic villains! SHE HAS THE WORDS ‘CRUEL’ AND ‘DEVIL’ IN HER NAME!
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dahlialiketheflower · 6 months ago
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If she doesn’t scare you, no evil thing will 🚬
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I did this cosplay the day before they announced the new Cruella movie so I held onto these pictures until the release!
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tragicbeauty1991 · 6 months ago
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Okay, I said I was going to make a longer post talking about why most of the complaints I see on here about the new Cruella film aren’t accurate, so here goes.... (WARNING: Contains some spoilers.)
Misconception #1: The Dalmatians are the villains. Cruella wants to kill them to avenge her mother’s death.
Truth: The Baroness is the villain of the film. While it’s true the dogs running after Cruella’s mom are what causes her to fall to her death, the dogs are just...being dogs and doing what their master (the Baroness) told them to do. Cruella very easily COULD have blamed them, but she doesn’t. As a child, she blames herself because she caused the disturbance that led to the situation. Later, once she learns that the Baroness deliberately called the dogs on her to run her off the cliff, she (rightly) blames the Baroness. At no point does she blame or hate the dogs themselves. In fact, this version of Cruella has a couple of dogs of her own...and in the end, when the Baroness gets what she deserves and goes off to jail, she adopts the dogs.
Honestly, I liked how the Dalmatians were portrayed. They’re not vicious (except when ordered to be)...but they also aren’t the laid back, sweet family-friendly dogs that we get in the animated version either. I don’t believe in “bad breeds,” but it IS true that some breeds are more relaxed and easygoing than others, and Dalmatians are NOT the kind of dog you want to get if you’re a beginner and don’t know what you’re doing. They are high energy dogs who were originally bred to run after the carts firemen used in the early days before cars, making sure to keep people and animals out of the way of the horses so they could go full speed ahead...so they can be nippy if they aren’t trained or socialized well. This film shows them ripping up a couch and being a bit of pest at times when they’re cooped up in Cruella’s hideout and getting restless/bored.
Misconception #2: The film is defending/making the audience sympathize with an animal abuser.
Truth: See above. This version of Cruella doesn’t actually ever harm a dog. She STEALS the Dalmatians in order to get back a necklace one of them swallowed...but she never harms them. The Dalmatians INSPIRE her spotted coat design. They themselves are NOT the coat.
Misconception #3: Pongo and Perdy are related, so the film is implying an inappropriate relationship between them.
Truth: At the very end of the film, we get a post-credits scene in which Cruella leaves a puppy as a gift for Rodger and another for Anita. While it’s true that they seem to be from the same litter (from one of the Baroness’ Dalmatians), Rodger and Anita aren’t even TOGETHER yet at the end of the film and because this story is first and foremost a RETELLING from Cruella’s perspective the events of the animated film don’t necessarily even happen. We get a lot of nods to the original film—for example, Horace makes a comment about how owners and their dogs often look alike and we see a lady and her Afghan hound walk past almost shot for shot like what we see in the beginning of the animated film when Pongo is looking out the window—BUT...the dog -napping and spotted coat have ALREADY happened by the end of the film. In this version, we don’t need Pongo and Perdy to have puppies for Cruella to steal. Why would she? She already has three Dalmatians of her own by the end of the film, and they’re clearly capable of making puppies on their own so...giving away puppies to Rodger and Anita and somehow hoping they’ll end up together and their dogs will have more puppies just so she could steal them back...MAKES NO SENSE.
Misconception #4: Cruella is Estella’s evil personality. The film negatively portrays people with mental struggles like multiple personalities as evil.
Truth: Cruella is Estella’s alter ego in much the same way that Batman is Bruce Wayne’s alter ego. She is fully aware of this other “personality.” Additionally, Cruella isn’t exactly evil in this film. Estella is the polite, submissive, well-behaved side of her while Cruella is the rebellious, mischievous, wild side that isn’t afraid to stand up for herself or get into trouble and push boundaries. Although she sometimes lets “Cruella” go too far, by the end of the film, although she claims Estella is “dead,” I think the truth is more that she figured out how to merge Cruella and Estella appropriately. She is unashamedly herself with her black and white hair and eccentric attitude...but she has also shown that at the end of the day, she values the people (and animals) who are like family to her.
The only LEGITIMATE complaints that I can see people making are that it does MAJORLY diverge from canon (but you should know that going in from the trailers), that the Baroness is a bit over the top for a live-action villain, and that Rodger and Anita should have had more screen time. Honestly, my biggest complaint is how unrealistic it is for the Dalmatians to still seem so young ten years after we first see them onscreen and that they’re having puppies (when apparently they’ve somehow never had them before??) at such an old age. (Which is a pretty minor complaint, honestly.)
Cruella is fun remake with some unexpected twists, lots of amazing costumes, and great music. Give it a shot!
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evildisneydorks · 2 months ago
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aaaa ok so where do you think each villain would fall on the “would you fuck your clone?” meme
this idea is brillant hold on
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half-blood-goods · 9 months ago
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Disney Villain Movies that would have better premises than Cruella
Ursula - How she got banished from Atlantica, or they could just choose to explain the "She's a daughter of Poseidon and sister of Triton" plotline
Scar - There has to be something other than "yeah I just wanted to be king". Something serious needs to happen to emotionally wreck someone enough to throw their brother off a cliff
Hades - PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, I WANT A PROPER BACKSTORY AND MOTIVATION FOR HADES BECAUSE I'M FUCKING TIRED OF THE "YEAH I'M EVIL AND BASICALLY SATAN" CHARACTERIZATION JUST BECAUSE HE'S THE GOD OF THE UNDERWORLD
Dr. Facilier - He was incredibly pissed at the rich (understandably), so what if that was the motivation for him to start practicing Voodoo and that's of he made his connection with his "friends" on the other side
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batasann · 5 days ago
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I was just thinking about Quasimodo's first wooden doll... That's how it all started. PS. Sorry if my ENG sounds weird to you...
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aniwonders · 21 days ago
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