#does this count as a meta? it’s more of a PSA. like. it’s indisputably canon that nmj DID NOT KNOW bc if he DID then jgy would just be dead

[labyrynth]

i cannot stress this enough:

nie mingjue tried to kill jin guangyao, both before and after he died, but nmj’s reasons for trying to kill jgy never included “jin guangyao killed him.”

nmj never knew that jgy played a part in his death.

he was generally paranoid, but there is no indication that he had any real, concrete information about anything jgy was dealing with. nmj never actually knew anything about what jgy was doing.

he did not know that jgy had done anything to the music, and he had no reason to believe that the progression of his qi instability was anything other than natural. we don’t see any indication that he even acknowledged that it was getting worse.

moreover, nmj tried to kill jgy multiple times BEFORE he died, even before jgy started playing for him. even after jgy was playing for him, what finally set off nmj’s fatal qi deviation was not, in fact, the revelation that jgy was trying to kill him, but overhearing jgy’s private comment to xichen that nmj was treating jgy poorly. that was what sent him into his fatal, paranoid rage.

#mdzs #mdzs talk #nie mingjue #jin guangyao #meta #does this count as a meta? it’s more of a PSA. like. it’s indisputably canon that nmj DID NOT KNOW bc if he DID then jgy would just be dead #like if nmj thought that jgy was actually trying to kill him he would have just straight up killed jgy #if nmj somehow not only knew that jgy was trying to kill him but also that it was specifically the MUSIC?? #like what he’s just gonna sit there and be like ‘ah damn he’s trying to poison me again :/‘ #‘too bad there’s literally nothing i can do like getting up and leaving or kicking him out’ #like???? lmfao???????? #anyway fanfic writers i’m looking at you #none of this deus ex “da-ge’s spirit tells us exactly who killed him and how’ bullshit #like even assuming such a thing were possible (which canonically it’s explicitly NOT) they all saw him qi deviate!! #like idk about you but if a dude has heart disease and his family has a history of early death due to complications from heart disease #and like especially if all he’s doing to curb it is like. idk cutting down on sodium. but not taking meds or lowering stress or anything. #if a guy like that has a heart attack and dies like. ur gonna have a hard time claiming that he was murdered #especially if he died literally attempting to murder the guy you claim supposedly murdered him (even though he died of a heart attack) #ngl even the fact that nmj’s body was all chopped up and even JGY HAVING HIS HEAD isn’t really substantial evidence that jgy killed him #bc let’s be real: even if jgy hadn’t done anything nmj probably STILL would have tried to kill him. #if you have the corpse of a dude who fucking hated your guts and tried to kill you multiple times coming after you??? #yeah you’d be kind of justified in taking the necessary measures to keep yourself safe #also i feel like one question we don’t ask enough is how tf jgy even got nmj’s body to begin with?? #he died in the unclean realm and presumably huaisang oversaw his burial?? was nmj ALREADY going after jgy??? #anyway #mxtx talk