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classic80sand90smovieloves2 · 2 years

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Dating Loki and Bartleby

(Not my gif)(Requested by anonymous)

(I’m obsessed with these men)

- I think it’s important that you meet Loki and Bartleby before the whole “messiah thing” because regardless of how handsome someone may be, the minute they start talking about being banished from heaven; or start to spout out information only high level stalkers would know, is the minute a rational adult woman runs for the hills.

- But I’m getting ahead of myself, you don’t meet Loki and Bartleby until after they’ve become invested in your life.

- It all starts with a chance encounter, or rather, a chance glance to be more exact. Bartleby spots you as he’s going about his day and while he passively notes that you’re pretty, it’s you that interests him: your life, the way you seem to think or act, the things you do, the way you treat people and the way people treat you. You may think that your life is boring and monotonous, and it may very well be, but there’s something about it that just …keeps him watching.

- Bartleby doesn’t usually “take” to people: he enjoys watching little entertaining splices of their lives but he’s never attached himself to a single story like he’s done with you.

- Initially, it’s what's currently going on in your life that has him paying particular attention to you. It might not be anything revolutionary but there is a dramatic scenario taking place; whether you’re willfully ignorant towards it or not.

- Maybe it’s a cheating partner, a sick loved one, a shitty boss, or just an overall low point in your mental health. Maybe it’s all four, mixed together like a shitty cocktail specifically designed to make your life a living hell. Either way, something is occurring and it’s nothing pleasant.

- …And yet, you never “stray from god’s path”. You have this genuine kindness that you extend towards even the most undeserving people and you don’t ever expect anything in return. You might not have a lot of faith but you’re still a good person.

- You’re an innocent soul …and god do you fucking infuriate him. Would it kill you to just stand up for yourself? Dump that douchebag, quit this shitty going nowhere job, do something. You can’t just let people walk all over you all the time!

- Him having to watch you bite your tongue for the hundredth time is what finally brings Loki into things. You say nothing as your awful boyfriend kisses your forehead with a lie about being called into work or allow your boss to demand far too much from you and Bartleby internally screams all the way home so that he can rant to the amused blond.

- The next day, Bartleby drags him out on his usual stalking session and while the blond is initially annoyed that he’s missing his Saturday morning cartoons, the minute he sees you walking down the street, he forgets all about being upset.

- You see, Bartleby falls for your story; your face is just an added bonus, but Loki, Loki falls for your looks before anything else. He lets the brunette lead him throughout the city as you go about your day, half listening to what he’s saying about you and paying more attention to the way your hips move as you walk or the way your face and hair looks in the sunlight.

- Because he’s paying so much attention to your face, he see’s the way it falls when you’re on the phone. That’s when he takes interest in what his friends been saying, asking the man who you’re talking to and listening to him explain that your boyfriend is cancelling your plans so that he can go out and fuck some other girl behind your back.

- And just like that, the two of them are equally invested in the television show that is your mortal life.

- Unbeknownst to you, you’re a major point of discussion in their lives. The more interested in you they become, the more they talk about how you deserve better, and the more they start to talk about how they are what's better.

- You know how hard it is for Loki not to murder your boyfriend once he really starts to develop feelings for you? You know how hard it is for Bartleby to not let him do it? The two of them have to physically restrain themselves from intervening every time someone wrongs you.

- They know that they can’t just pop into your life at random and start hacking away at people, and that it’s best for them to just let your life run its course as naturally as possible …but that doesn't mean that they can’t be a part of that life and subtly influence you towards the “right” decisions, right?

- Right! So it’s not wrong for them to show up to your favorite spot, start making conversation about something they know you’re passionate about and purposefully appear ambiguously gay so that you don’t pull the “I have a boyfriend” card when they ask if you want to join them for some coffee.

- And when the three of you start hanging out more, and your boyfriend disapproves, you can insist that he’s being ridiculous and an argument can arise and your newfound buddies can comfort you and start to make you see that you deserve better! Right before running a train on you with their tongues!

- Ignore that last part, it’s not important. What is important, is that you finally make the decision to dump your ex, giving them the chance to move in on you like they’ve wanted to all along.

- Congratulations my dear, you’ve earned yourself two guardian angels.

- Loki’s love language is a lot more physical than Bartleby’s so, while neither of them are particularly fond of pda, the blond is definitely more likely to grab at you while you’re out in public. Even so, both of them will wrap an arm around you, hold your hand, or place a guiding appendage on your back every now and again.

- Although pda is scarce, affection in private is not; especially when it’s coming from Loki. You’ll usually wind up cuddled up on the couch with Bartleby; either tucked under his shoulder or letting him rest his head on yours, or being tugged around by your other boyfriend; touched in any way he can think of.

- I’m sorry but Loki is going to want to grab at your boobs and ass constantly; usually with an apology and a half-assed excuse about it being “so long” since he’s been able to. Bartleby will scoff and scold him but he isn’t much better when the two of you are kissing.

- While Loki definitely show’s his love through touch, Bartleby tends to show his love through his words and actions. Affirmations, I love you’s, considerate deeds, and loving glances are all things that show you he cares without him having to have his hands all over you; not that he’s especially opposed to that.

- Kisses on the top of the head from Bartleby and pecks on the lips or cheek/corner of the mouth kisses from Loki.

- Bartleby is usually slow and deep with his kisses, taking his time and really savoring the feeling of your lips on his. Loki tends to be more fervent and feverish, either pouring all of his emotions into one kiss or being a bit more playful and teasing. While they both have differently styles, they’re equally as passionate and domineering in their own special ways.

- They find making out with you to be both enjoyable and infuriating. Wouldn’t you be frustrated if you couldn’t crank one out after a hot and heavy kiss between you and your incredibly attractive partner? They’re left high and dry every time, give em’ a little sympathy.

- Being tossed from lap to lap whenever the three of you are together. Both of them are big on cuddling so there’s never a shortage of snuggles when you’re with them.

- Usually, you’re either all piled together in bed at random or sandwiched between the two of them. Bartleby will be the big spoon and Loki will either face you and have you crushed up against his chest; head resting on his bent arm, or have your head laying on his flattened shoulder; one leg hitched over his waist while his arm falls asleep underneath you.

- But don’t be surprised if they want to be the little spoon or cuddled up into your chest; especially when you’re alone with one of them. A murderous streak doesn’t mean that they don’t like being babied from time to time!

- Princess is a big pet name in your relationship: both of them have a habit of using it, along with “angel”; though that's more of an inside joke between the two of them when you’re first getting together. Baby is Loki’s go-to and “honey” or “hon” is Bartleby’s, except for when somethings wrong or he’s being less sincere; he tends to use “sweetheart” in those moments.

- They love watching you get dressed and/or show off the outfits that you bought when you went out shopping. Seeing you all excited and gushing about something so trivial is adorable to them; and seeing your body is always a plus.

- So many hoodies to choose from. You have two boyfriends that almost exclusively wear them, you have at least half a closet full of the fucking things; and they never have the heart to complain once they see you wearing one.

- Who knew that a person marveling at and touching wings could be so erotic? But in all seriousness, anytime they catch you staring or when they first let you see/feel their wings, they were surprised to see just how much of a reaction it elicited from them. There was an overwhelming feeling of love towards you; along with pride, and they can’t even really explain why.

- As I somewhat mentioned before: Bartleby is a lot more romantic than your other boyfriend. He likes his hallmark moments so anniversaries, birthdays and reunions after you go on trips are always made special.

- He’s the one who surprises you with clean dishes or laundry and gets you flowers for no real reason at all.

- His Loki-described “anal retentive attention to detail” means that every date that he plans is almost always near perfect; if not completely perfect, and that you can never hide anything from him; even if it’s just what you want for dinner.

- And speaking of dates: Bartleby tends to go for more serious and romantic outings; like candlelit dinners or nighttime walks around the city, while Loki tends to try and make things more fun; like taking you mini-golfing or getting takeout while watching something like a pay per view wrestling match. Both think that you enjoy theirs more; it’s a point of contention in your relationship.

- Saturday morning cartoons with Loki or people watching at the airport with Bartleby. You get to choose where you want to go but they’ll probably get a little jealous or miffed if you choose the other more than them.

- Movie nights.

- Getting to fly with them at least once. They argue about who gets to do it because they know the chances of you letting them take you up in the air twice is not very high.

- You’re like 90% of Loki’s impulse control. Bartleby is somewhat nonchalant about his friends behavior and only has a problem with it when it interferes with his plans but you have a conscience so you’re the one who has to stop him from slaughtering people just for not saying bless you. He’ll get a little frustrated or disappointed but he’ll also think it’s cute that you’re “so innocent”

- Loki and you goofing off while Bartleby watches with fond exasperation. The blond definitely makes you laugh the most in your relationship.

- Them not being able to eat will not stop them from eating with you or eating whatever you cooked/baked. They’ll remind you that they can’t really eat “them” but once you mention that you can just give them to someone else, they’ll immediately insist that you don’t do that; usually before shoving one into their mouths. They’ll have to spit it out but they’ll enjoy them!

- Loki lowkey loves to prank and just overall fuck with you; like trying to “gaslight” you into believing something innocently stupid or pretending that there’s a spider somewhere nearby. Sometimes he does it just to look like “the hero” and get close to/touch you but he usually can’t keep a straight face and starts laughing; letting you know that he’s lying.

- Getting roped into helping them. They probably somewhat lie to you to get you to agree but they think of it as a necessary evil; you’re sort of their ride so you know.

- Sitting; adorably, confused when they argue and talk about their pasts. Loki will usually try to quickly explain and get you to side with him while Bartleby will join you as you’re sitting and tell you not to worry about it; making Loki drop the subject.

- Them talking about Mooby to those boardroom executives is them trying to convince you that they’re angels: like Loki takes personal offense to Bartleby forgetting some specific portion of your life that he thought was particularly endearing and worth noting.

- Okay but isn’t it reassuring to have a boyfriend who knew almost everything about you; flaws included, before you even met and still decided to pursue you? Arguably, they could have had anyone they wanted and yet, they still chose to love you.

- Bartleby always notices when something is wrong and will usually kick Loki out of the room or bring it up when the two of you are alone, letting you talk to him if you need to and providing comfort. Afterwards, the blond will be let back in or he’ll walk in on you and obliviously make some joke or bring up something so trivial and far from what you were conversing about that it makes you laugh.

- They like to think that they’re above all that jealousy crap; and oftentimes pretend like they are too, but come home from a business dinner in that one dress and bring up josh from finance and you’ll see the truth.

- Loki is all about punishing the wicked. Your ex or a stranger bothering you? He’ll kill them. Someone cut you off in traffic? That’s close enough to them trying to kill you and that’s a no go for him. Someone didn’t say bless you after you sneezed your brains out? Well he’s gonna blow their brains out.

- And when it comes to you, Bartleby will just sit by and let it happen. They can never be too sure when it comes to your fragile, mortal life.

- Loki is the one who causes most of the fights in your relationship but he’s usually too cute for you or Bartleby to stay mad at. The three of you tend to bicker but you do occasionally have a big, ugly fight.

- Depending on whose fault it is and how big the fight is, you either wait and cool off or let the problem go. Loki tends to try to worm his way back into your good graces by making you laugh while Bartleby tends to ask how you’re doing before giving a genuine, heartfelt apology.

- If the fight is your fault, they either take some time to cool off and then just pretend like nothing happened or they’ll hold a grudge (cough cough Bartleby cough cough) until you cozy up to them and apologize.

- Bartleby tends to say “I love you” more seriously than Loki does. Loki will be more nonchalant or just show you that he does while Bartleby is more romantic about it; though the brunette does give a casual “love you” as you’re saying goodbye as well.

- To put it simply: you’ve become their home. You’re the one good thing that’s come out of being cast aside by god and they’re planning on keeping you by their side for as long as they can.

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randomnameless · 3 years

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Heroes characterisation analysis time again, with Seiros bcs i’m trash and I was wondering maybe Seiros’d reveal some stuff about the WoH

Inoue!Seiros wise, Seiros is genki!Rhea

I pointed out in a different post, but I’ll forever regret not being able to have a dual audio. Someone on redshit pointed out how Inoue feels too soft and feminine (?) for Seiros, but for me, it’s the contrary. Leigh!Seiros sounds so monotone.

@ultrakatua : you said something about directions given to the VA, and I’m pretty sure Inoue got a different one from Leigh, just by looking at the lvl 40 quote localised Seiros goes :

OG!Seiros?

Your kind are frail, ignorant creatures, incapable of accomplishing anything without the guidance of the goddess.

...Or so I had thought. But I have been forced to realize, meeting the Heroes here, that I was wrong.

You in particular stand apart as well... You are different from the rest. Special in some way.

My instincts are not often wrong...

If you continue to fight for this world, I will fight by your side, as a warrior. As an equal.

And I know the goddess will be watching over you as well.

Through Google Translate (i know) the localised “my instincts are not often wrong” was originally “ Fufu ... My intuition is right, right?” OG!Seiros sounds more playful than localised!Seiros.

人の子など、主のお導きなくしては何もできぬ、脆弱で蒙昧な存在…

…と、思っていましたが、あなたや、この世界に集った英雄たちを見るにつけ、その考えが誤りであったと気づかされます。

とりわけ、あなたは他の誰とも異なる特別な存在に思えてなりません。ふふ…私の直感は当たるのですよ？

この世界で、あなたがこれからも戦い続けるならば、私もあなたと対等な一人の戦士として共に戦うつもりです。

天上におわす女神も、きっとあなたのことを見守っていてくださることでしょう…。

Anyways, back to the dialogue, since I’ve already talked about this, let’s talk about this monstruosity of a Lv 40 Support - remember, in heroes or modern!FEs, if it has an avatar, it must be worshipped “you are so special” “i was lonely before you” *war flashbacks of the Loki-Aversa Forging bonds*.

Also, while FEH can be surprisingly astute with characterisation sometimes, some other times it just fail hard (remember Arvis and his “Hellfire” when Fjalar is seen as a symbol of justice and something to be proud of? Or whatever the fuck were Saias’s lines.)

Back on topic :

“Your kind are frail, ignorant creatures, incapable of accomplishing anything without the guidance of the goddess.”

Funny how I posted “recently” something about Macuil and Indech who have interesting staggering blow’s lines, deriding humans, thinking they’re children or “insignificant creatures”.

Post Zanado she might have shared her bros’s views on humans. And yet it feels odd, because we know Seiros built the canal in Enbarr and apparently accomplished “miracles” so randoms wanted to follow her. Was she sneering at humans while helping them because she thought she had to help them like Sothis did? Or did she help them because it was something she genuinely wanted to do? Or because she was planning to build her army of “frail and ignorant creatures”? Still, this is something she used to believe but she revised her opinion.

“...Or so I had thought. But I have been forced to realize, meeting the Heroes here, that I was wrong.“

Bleh - but point is, Seiros realised she was wrong, even in the canon FE16 gave us. Rhea is legit saddened to fight her loser’s descendant, whatever Willy was, even if he needed her help to create his Empire, he was not a “frail and ignorant creature, incapable of accomplishing anything without the guidance of the goddess” anymore. I won’t bank on every legacy golem being named after a human ally, but you’re not naming uh... guardians after creatures you don’t care at least a little about. if she was saved by a frail, ignorant creature unable to do anything without the goddess’s guidance, then what is she?

So if this is the canon FEH gives us “Seiros sneered at humans before meeting Summoner-chan and the heroes here” I’ll die by my own headcanon that Seiros used to think humans were nothing, then meeting the humans from Enbarr she started to grow fond of them and made that canal and then when she met Wilhelm and his pals (randoms creating her church ?) she grew fond of them as kind of equals.

ZZZ

“You in particular stand apart as well... You are different from the rest. Special in some way.

My instincts are not often wrong... “

There is nothing to extract from this bar “you’re so awesome summoner-chan!” Cruel nod though, now that I think of it : If Seiros trusted her instincts to side with Wilhelm I because dude was, apparently, a good guy, her instincts didn’t warn her 1000 years later Wilhelm’s descendant would turn against her.

If you continue to fight for this world, I will fight by your side, as a warrior. As an equal.

Seiros wishes to fight for the world with someone who fights for the world as well. I don’t know what she means by “fight for the world”, is she talking about someone who has ambitions or it’s the traditionnal “I will fight for the sake of this world” stuff? If they both want to fight for the world, to her, they’re equals.

Also, Seiros sees herself as a warrior. When she retakes this name in CF, it’s because she’s in her “warrior mode”, she’s not the leader of the church anymore.

“And I know the goddess will be watching over you as well.”

Seiros still believes her mom is watching over her :’( But her mom dgaf about anything save for her meatsuit. I was curious so I checked the og script (again, OG!Seiros was given an ellipse, but Localised!Seiros affirms stuff), OG!Seiros is much more reserved about Sothis watching over the summoner.

Status page quotes :

(again, it is jarring to compare just the tone of Inoue!Seiros and Leigh!Seiros, Inoue!Seiros talks much faster, even faster than Inoue!Rhea. Seiros is genki!Rhea confirmed)

Do not be afraid. You may speak openly with me.

The first thing I thought of reading the “do not be afraid” is how the Bible’s angels often start with “do not be afraid” to the human they’re speaking to, but hey, they look freaky, not like Seiros who, right now, looks like a human with a failed hair dye.

What are you doing? Do you require my assistance?

ZZZ

Do the teachings of the Church of Seiros hold interest for you?

Seiros wonder if people are interested in her stuff. I don’t know from what time period this Seiros is, but if she’s from a post war of heroes, why is she asking if people are interested in her Church if it’s apparently the leading dogma in the continent?

If you humbly devote yourself to prayer, even you may receive the blessing of the goddess.

Leigh!Seiros emphasises the “even you”. I know I’m just a lowly human dude, no need to hammer it! What kind of payer Willy the loser did to receive the blessing of the goddess, hm?

If something precious is stolen from you, you must do whatever it takes to recover it.

Inoue!Seiros marks a definite change in tone here, she’s not playful or enthusiastic anymore, but pissed. Bar that, the “whatever it takes” part is... something Rhea doesn’t endorse anymore (except when Billy becomes Nemesis 2).

Mother... I wish I could see you again, just once more...

In FE16 Rhea’s mom is just a gremlin chilling in Billy’s head, never giving a fuck about her even when she recovered her memories (bar the unseen scene where Rhea tells us she talked to her mom and immediately wonders if she should die). But maybe in the FeH verse Sothis can give some fucks about her children? Lol, who am I kidding.

I shall never abandon you. Even if it means staining my hands with blood…

While this sounds like usual player worship, again it shows Seiros’s willing to do “whatever it takes” sometimes. She’s a bit of an extremist, but became wiser with time.

Tl; Dr :

1/ Seiros is Genki!Rhea

2/ Seiros used to think humans were useless, like her brothers (bar Cichol) until a certain point.

3/ As every young and impressionable person who survived the extermination of her village full of dragons to a man who used her mother’s spine as a sword and douches using other body parts of other silbings as weapons, Seiros is willing to do “whatever it takes” hinting at extremist tendencies, when Rhea, older and wiser, is apparently more willing to compromise, except when someone tries to destroy her home and take away her siblings using her mother’s spine as a weapon

4/ Inoue!Rhea/Seiros >>> Leigh!Rhea/Seiros

#Fe heroes #sometimes i'm happy about the no dual audio thing else i would be locked with jp!Bernie and i can imagine the nightmare #otoh this makes me really sad #like inoue!Seiros talks really fast 'do you want to talk to me please talk to me don't hesitate'#rhea stuff #FE16 #stop saying whatever it takes rhea you'll regret it afterwards #is it the wilhelm hour?#i know he isn't mentioned at all but for consistency i'll tag the dude #Seiros doesn't mention her bros it's sad but she used to think like them Cichol's the weird one #I suppose the 'willy saved me' part was erased to be more player worshippy so only player chan can make her realise humans can be cool #don't let her meet oliver or narcian or caellach or...#rhea stop trusting your instincts they're wrong cichol said #but no one listened to him and 1k years later Edel's here #I already got from the game the 'seiros is a warrior' impression #was seiros the warrior to willy the ruler? we all know how that ended #heroes and wonky characterisations

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