If I should lose you, the stars would fall from the sky
If I should lose you, leaves would wither and die
First artwork for the Naughty or Nice Event @barris-events 💙
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Honestly, I didn't realize how comfortable and unguarded Thomas is when he talks to Richard until I saw DA2. He uses his real accent so naturally and his corrugator supercilii muscles are utterly relaxing, which makes him a bit unrecognizable (and tbh a bit less handsome than he is in the show and DA2 lol). I know Rjc is a professional actor but... still can't imagine how he managed? to portrait a man in love like literally taking off a mask?
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WHAT is wrong with the voices in the first movie….they’re absolutely awfully high pitched on the dvd version, and significantly better in the prime version but still noticeably off, especially with cora
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mild critique of Thomas’s plot in both movies, in an attempt at comparison and analysis of what inspires what reaction
I do think that while the second movie was better written overall, in some ways Thomas’s plot was better executed in the first.
It was less rushed, for one, and the nature of the events was a more - completed arc? (NOT more “fleshed out”, especially not in terms of the actual interactions between the two pairings, like I realize to some extent this is a subjective question of what “depth” you felt there was to the interactions but it’s also Not-100%-Subjective enough to make my head explode as assessment. Brains splatted everywhere.) It wasn’t leading up to nearly as big an endpoint and the events in the middle were bigger in themselves, plus it had a more classic “independent” story structure, possibly partly as a result of Thomas’s storyline being quarantined away from the rest of the movie. Thomas’s plot in the new movie couldn’t, on its own, be a slightly awkward short film, it’s more of a traditional side plot. And the pacing was imperfect. And he didn’t get to go dancing.
So like. If you only had one of my three to five huge objections to how his story was handled in the first movie (I think everyone objects to the fate of the other men at Turton’s being given zero narrative weight but I could be wrong), and if you didn’t get massively more chemistry from Guy and Thomas than from Thomas and Richard, and if you didn’t feel the ways the employee/employer thing was ameliorated were sufficient (or even near-enough-to-sufficient, as I feel), I get how you’d significantly prefer his story in the first one.
And the truth is, I have no idea what my feelings would have been if I hadn’t already been thinking about and working with spoilers and then clips for like a month before seeing the movie, or if I had been before seeing the first movie. I mean I’ve thought and rewatched clips and read fic and meta for two years about the first movie, and my objections have definitely had more and less salience at different times. And I may find that in a month or two when the thrills of the bits I loved about Thomas in the new movie have faded into the background, I have more objections to movie two than I did, or the ones I have are more salient. I think it’s telling that while I can tell you more individual things I had a problem with in DA 1 than DA 2 and more individual things I was excited about in DA 2 my actual in-theater enjoyment level was similar, maybe even slightly higher in DA 1. (I mean. Turton’s.)
...then again my expectations for the first one were set to “maybe the gay butler will do something a little interesting and this won’t all be an exercise in boredom”, so you know, contrasting expectations vs having seen Guy and Thomas’s scenes together in clip form repeatedly already, so who the fuck knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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So many charcaters were completely ooc in the Downton abbey films (especially the 1st one!!!) 😓😓 I just want to establish this…I rly dislike and disagree w some of the choices made like. Mainly Carson coming back when Thomas was there…as if he didn’t give that whole speech in the finale about how he would never come back even partially while another butler was there because he knows they wouldn’t accept those terms etc, as we know is what he believes because he only follows the rules strictly?? Like, nah he wouldn’t even do that >:’( it didn’t happen.
And also casually changing his mind about the whole kidnapping thing and suddenly being cool about it and joining in even though it went against his morals? Like Carson is basically a walking stack of principles he is NOT the one to be lenient with his morals and beliefs. (And the staff plotting and being sneaky together in general, fun but would never happen in my opinion?).
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elizabeth mcgovern as cora crawley, countess of grantham, for “vanity fair” (published august 2019) | 📸: mark neville
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And give your precious love / Your very precious love to me
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Uncensored version on my AO3
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