#eernask talk grishaverse
Kiss, kill, or marry: the crows
Is it two by two by two? If so then:
kiss: Inej, Jesper
marry: Nina, Matthias
kill: Kaz, Wylan
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Wait what happened with Nina's arc in KoS? I don’t mind spoilers
Obviously spoilers for the entire King of Scars duology!
Here's a quick recap: Nina poses as a widowed Fjerdan named Mila and goes to Fjerda to bury Matthias, lugging his corpse with her and wallowing in despair for months. There, she meets Hanne Brum, Jarl Brum's child who is secretly a heartrender and the two become friends. Nina moves in with the Brums in the Ice Court, where she falls for Hanne. Hanne accidently kills the Fjerdan prince, gets disguised to take his place, and Nina becomes the future queen of Fjerda.
Here's what bugs me about this: Hanne is basically Matthias 2.0 without the misogyny (and Nina keeps remarking upon it as well so it's not just me pulling comparisons out of malice or anything). But while Matthias was a memorable character because of his intense, polarizing journey and my own hate-to-love progression, Hanne is just......... boring in comparison. Hanne has good potential with an arc based on breaking through oppressive dichotomy of Fjerdan society in multiple ways, but if I had to choose only one to play the Main Brooding Fjerdan With Jarl Brum As Their Parent Trying to Fix Their Country, Matthias wins. And their romance is so so so weird because it happens in a heartbeat alongside Nina's struggle to find peace with his death. For example, she finds Matthias' killer, gets pissed off and it seems like we will have a character moment about it, but then 5 pages later she totally forgets about it because Hanne needs to be made out with right then. And that ending????????? Like??????????? When Nina promised Matthias to keep his dream of a just Fjerda alive, I didn't imagine a lazy speedrun like "her lover she met 6 months ago hands her the role of the monarch". She will spend the rest of her life as Not-Nina with a Not-Matthias at her side and I am super duper uninterested in considering it canon
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Kit and Danielle were the actors who I didn’t envision as their respective book characters’ physical descriptions, but honestly, I felt like they were the most accurate in portraying their canon book personalities and was super pleasantly surprised. As for Amita and Calahan, they sure do look a lot like the rad official card art. If only Matthias had the long locks,, We were robbed
OKAY BUT SERIOUSLY.... Kit from the initial stills looked NOTHING like Jesper to me, but then when I saw him in motion I fell in a love so deep I still can’t find the surface. Danielle is actually larger than photos would lead you to believe, and in combination with her impeccable accents, bossyness, and flirting, she is the best Nina I could have hoped for. Like. I still can’t stop thinking about how she made Nina even better than in the books. She plays her with this combination of honest, raw emotion and reserved anger, and BRO. I AM SO IN LOVE. Similar can be said for Amita, she has all of Inej’s warmth and beauty and it makes tears spring to my eyes. Calahan is so different from how I imagined Matthias, from the short hair, to the much more closed off version of the character, but I adored him too since it played off Danielle so well. He’s just this enormous slab of ice speaking in a dignified, princely voice, that melts with time. Freddie is MUCH more ratboy like than initially thought, and that is always a great thing. His “Kaz plays a sculptor” performance had me hollering bc YEAH THAT’S KAZ RIGHT THERE MAN!! All in all, I’m very happy with the cast, can’t wait for my boy Wylan~~
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Unpopular opinion, but Shadow and Bone was actually bad because Kaz didn't bonk enough people with his cane
That was my hot take too!!! It took Kaz most of the season to finally do something cool and he didn't even have his cane. It is a CRIMEEEEE
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all this time, i thought nina zenik was a redhead 😭 i really should pay attention more to physical descriptions
She has redhead energy. Even now, seeing her hair described as brown feels wrong.....
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The "my ghost won't associate with your ghost" exchange is the only true example of boys being boys, actually
We love several criminals planning to expand internationally while making fun of each other without it seeming unnatural
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straight up thinking about show mal and how he says "you are my true north, and I can see my way to you now" like wow man
The show straight up said “we will romanticize his role as a tracker every chance we get and you WILL be in tears by the end” and I fell for it, I fell so deep,
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you know that tiny montage in ATLA where team avatar (minus katara) were pulling scams on the people of the fire nation? i want something similar with the crows’ shenanigans in the show, i think that’d be hilarious and fitting for them
While they're sorta part the petty thieves phase imo, I can imagine Baby Kaz doing it. The perfect amount of sad and funny
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Just realized that most of the people who prefer SoC over S&B don't really sympathize with the villains. Like, no one actually feels for Pekka, Heleen, or Van Eck. Maybe in the last few chapters of CK (Spoilers), you kinda pity Pekka when he's begging for his son, but that's pretty much about it. You hate him, but you know he still stores a lil bit of love and care in his heart for his family. Meanwhile, in S&B, there are still people who believe The Darkling is "morally ambiguous" when he's pretty much pure evil.. The whole falling-in-love with Alina was so obvious. Ben Barnes's Darkling has more depth and intrigue to him (and emotion, less cartoony and unfeeling), but there's no denying he's still bad. Leigh probably didn't bother in making the SoC antagonists likeable to the readers, while in S&B, perhaps she's still experimenting with her characters ..? The ongoing trend of finding the dark, brooding male villains hot, I suppose asgfshlkl . We should move past that toxicity and fall for the sweet himbos instead
Yeah, SoC villains are def not in the hot bad guy territory hahhahaha.... I don't think the trope in itself is bad, I like villains who make me conflicted, I just find it startling how some people bend over backwards to reinterpret the character in a different way from the way they are written and then get shocked when it's wrong. Like, the mess they put LB through after the Nikolai Duology concluded....... "Wow, the badly written, one dimensional bad guy was the badly written, one dimensional bad guy all along, who would have thought!!!!! Let's bully the writer for it." Just imagining ppl simping for Pekka Rollins in a similar way has me on the floor fknfjsksjdjnfdkjsjdnd
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Me: The 'indirect kiss' trope is pretty dumb. Friends and family can share cups and stuff without it being a big deal. Also Me during that scene where Kaz drinks out of the same shot glass Inej just drank from during Shadow and Bone: ASDHAJK !!! THEY HAD CONTACT???
bjvsdbv,dbj,BJKBJKBJK KANEJ STANS FUNCTION ON A WHOLE OTHER LEVEL HUH
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Does anyone think Genyadavid is toxic? Like, David completely ignored her! He's neglectful and does not know how to compliment her. I can't understand why people like him, Genya deserves much better!
Dude..,, not at all,,,,,,, It's not that he doesn't love her or pay her attention, it's that he lives inside his head and has no social intelligence. Toxic is the LAST thing I would describe him as. He is constantly learning how to be a better husband!!!! When she talks to him, he keeps notes on how to improve their relationship because there's nothing he would want more than to make her happy!!! I relate to that so so hard, I love those two so much.
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a six of crows official musical would have slapped just like what they did with the lightning thief 😫 and we deserve the edgy song numbers (though i'm not sure if it'd work considering it'd be incomplete without crooked kingdom, and the fantasy context without prior knowledge of s&b... tlt musical was able to wrap alright without needing a sequel musical for sea of monsters) Goddd, but imagine a Kaz and Matthias duet bickering. That would be hilarious
I vote for a stream-of-thought musical like The Great Comet, and imagining Matthias and Kaz agrily harmonizing is giving me life
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i know there are some elements i wish were different about the show... but then i think about all the ways it could have gone wrong in the hands of less caring showrunners; like, mathias could have been a completely stone cold asshole to nina and she fawns over him anyway, or a shoehorned love triangle between the crows, or inej ""fixing"" kaz's touch aversion by kissing him or smth, leaning into romanticising the darkling's manipulation of alina bc he's hot, flattening inej's character to 'kaz's love interest', jesper being made to look wildly incompetent to make him the ~comedic sidekick~, the cgi could've been cheap and looked like shit. noah centineo could've been cast as mal. it had the potential to be such a terrible Netflix™ adaptation, but instead we got a showrunner & cast who love the books as much as we do, an author being able to share an alternate vision for her works, a cast with great chemistry- like man, even if kaz is kind of OOC and a bunch of other little issues that bug me a little, im so grateful to everyone involved <3 <3
SAME!!! Everyone knows I have Opinions, but most of them are really the byproduct of a crew that was so excited to adapt this series they got a little lost along the way. You can tell this show is so very loved by the cast and the crew, and it makes my heart soar to see it. They put in so much effort and the end result is a really good teen show with the perfect cast!!!! Like!!!! How many other book fandoms can say the same for their adaptations????? We could have had another 13 Reasons Why. Or Winx. Or any other number of horrible adaptations. Sure, combining the stories was sort of a cash grab, but at least it is a cash grab with a soul! Also reading Noah Centineo as Mal dealt me physical damage
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so we all know pjo is getting adapted for disney+ (money-hungry mouse corporation ew, but i trust rick), but apparently the kane chronicles is too but for netflix and that's gonna be awesome cos i've always thought that trilogy would work pretty well as a series . Strange though that they're part of the same universe, but will be adapted by different separate networks 🤔 makes me think how s&b and soc could've been separate things as well if the showrunners weren't so eager to change so much of the source (now people new to the gv will say "kaz from shadow & bone" and not "kaz from six of crows")
Yeah, I too find it interesting that Netflix seized one while Disney got the other. I don't like either company, but I'm sorta smug at the fact that Disney didn''t manage to grab the full set actually they probably weren't even interested since it's about Egyptian gods with POC leads ayooooooo, and I'm looking forward to how it plays out! And yes I'll forever mourn the fact that they merged the two...... justice for Crows.....
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I'm really wanting to hear Amita say "I will have you without armor, Kaz Brekker. Or I will not have you at all."
Preach dude. What if we hear Kaz say “I want you to stay. I want... I want you.” What then
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Pretty sure I scrolled through your blog for hours tonight greedily taking in your six of crows/shadow and bone content. And you know what’s the good shit? The comic where you draw Kaz washing in front of Inej. And you know what’s the god-tier shit? In one panel you highlight Inej in white to make Kaz’s shadows seem darker. I did just consume a hell of a lot of art and it was ALL AMAZING but I’m just stunned by that one trick!! I love your stuff!!!! Thank you for sharing it with us!
Ajhhhhhh thank youuu!!! I'm glad you like it, and thank you for noticing that detail!!!! It's an eye focus trick that also doubles as simplifying that I should use more. You're welcome, and I hope you keep enjoying my content~
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I need help (Crooked Kingdom spoilers)
I finished SoC for the first time ever (my God it was amazing) and now I'm currently reading CK.
I need to confess it's hard for me to catch up with Leigh Bargugo's descriptions. Most of the time I don't understand them. It doesn't bother me tbh, I end up understanding after rereading a confusing action sequence a few times more
But now I reached this part were Inej and Kaz are going to a cathetral or chapel that on top has a hand?? that has more chapels in each finger??? and I'm like wtf is this structure??? xD
I swear to god this is a dumb question, but could you please explain to me how this place works because I swear to god I think this is a cool scene but right now I can't enjoy it because I'm having a hard time imagining this place. I would thank you greatly 😅
Jddmdj NO WORRIES BUDDY! I recommend checking out the map included with the book for maximum explanation potential.
Imagine some giant left a handprint on the ground, and they constructed walls based on it. The palm is the main hall of the sanctuary where the mass happens, and the fingers are side chapels into which you can enter. And from then up, it's a standard church with high walls and a roof. Hope this helped, have fun~
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oh man...i am NOT looking forward to the 'yellow-face' discourse that's going to run rampant on twitter after the kuwei/wylan switcheroo. granted, im white, so if a poc points out how it may be harmful/reinforce racist stereotypes, i will absolutely change my position. However, the way I read it, it was the same as if he'd disguised himself as someone white (eg. Fjerdan)? like, leigh never tried to make him pretend to 'act Shu', which probably would've been a Bad Look, other than pretending he couldn't speak Kerch to hide his voice, and even then they didn't make him mangle the language (which I think they'd have done if he was, say, Ravkan), so I don't really see where the plot point is harmful? again, im very open and willing to be corrected tho if this is ignorant!!
Yeah, he wasn't doing anything that makes it racist as he was pretending to be a specific person and not Shu in general. He also didn’t profit from it or endanger or offend Shu people in any way, since as you said it wasn’t the point that he’s Shu, the point was to replace Kuwei. But there's the question of how the show will handle it and how it would be received after its less-than-ideal portrayal of fantasy Asian people in s1......
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I kinda don’t mind them softening up kaz a little, it made no sense to me why Inej would have feelings for him when I was reading soc and now it’ll at least feel more believable from her pov
I get you, but to me, that's the point of Kanej!!! She's supposed to be like "what the HELL am I doing, he does NOT deserve any of this, but he showed me kindness and saved me in a way that makes me feel like I should save him back". Remember when she and Jesper were like "wow we are SO stupid for loving him??? Clown behavior." Inej is supposed to see redemption in a heartless, cold, cruel thief, the worst of the worst, even when he himself believes he is beyond saving!!!! Because she is so honestly good despite everything she went through that he realizes he can't keep using trauma as an excuse for his actions!!! Her constant struggle between loving him and doing what's best for her (because he sure as hell isn't, and she is ready to leave him) is one of the main pillars of their relationship, right up until the final chapter of the books, when he finally proves her that he wants to get better and wants to share his heart with her!!! It isn't realistic and I would never advise a real person to do it, but it's a great story.,,,,,,,,,
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i remember reading soc before, and i knew alina was leigh's other protagonist, but i haven't read s&b yet. every time inej mentioned her sankta alina knife and i didn't know how the whole ravkan saints "system" worked, i just thought that up in the skies of the grishaverse, there's some sort of cosmic council of ravkan saints where certain powerful grisha were appointed and alina was amongst them (kinda like gods.. i had a wild imagination and expectation 😭) i think i pictured this bc i thought s&b was set centuries before soc and not merely 2-3 years before it .
HHHHh you went very high fantasy worldbuilding with that one! The timeskip is also funny bc it seems we all had different ideas about how much time passed lol
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