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bethanydelleman · 7 months
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The three Tilney siblings drinking together sometime after Henry's wedding.
Henry: Hey, did I ever tell you that when Catherine first visited our house, she got it into her head that our father either murdered our mother or had her locked in the attic?
Frederick and Eleanor look at each other
Eleanor: He isn't... that bad.
Frederick: I wouldn't put it past him.
Henry: Yeah... my only real defense that was someone would have noticed if he murdered her.
Frederick: Facts
Another silence
Eleanor: So... given our current situations, what do you think is the least number of days we can visit the abbey without being seen as outright rude?
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thoumpingground · 8 months
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Shoutout to the man-shaped plot device that is Eleanor's husband. They had an *actual* gothic romance complete with forbidden love, and sudden wealth resolution, and Jane Austen doesn't care. Cause considering Northanger Abbey is all about how gothic tropes play out in reality, we have to consider the real life tragedy behind the "character conveniently comes into money by sudden death of rich relation" trope. At least one, most likely several, members of that young man's family died a sudden early death. And what is Jane Austen's interest in the matter? It is joy over El being able to leverage his score or a husband's tragedy into a love marriage and mending Henry's and General Tilney's relationship. Otherwise he's only incidentaly of interesting cause it just so happens in his servant who left the disappointing laundry list Cathy found in that cabinet. RIP El's husband's family. You will hardly be remembered.
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curiousb · 4 days
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The Tilney Family Album: Volume XVII
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Time to meet the nooboo!
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As it happened, Eleanor was already pregnant when the alien menace whisked her away, and the baby boy is Esther's, with her deep blue eyes. They name the new arrival Ellis.
(I confess I was a little disappointed by the lack of alien progeny, but I guess there’s still time!)
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What more could Esther want from life? She has just married the love of her life, and now she's a mother too!
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The new parents take it in turns to stay at home with their young son. One afternoon - shortly after Eleanor has put Ellis down for his nap - the family has an unexpected visitor. Lillian - the fiancée of Eleanor's cousin Nathan - drops in while mysteriously in character.
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She's not really known to the family, but it seems that Lillian just happened to be in that part of town, and decided to take the opportunity to introduce herself. And wake up the baby.
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Being the curious soul that she is, Eleanor can't help wanting to know just how much Lillian identifies with her llama persona?
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Lillian tries to explain that it's not so much about being a llama, as channelling the ineffable spirit of llamaness into everyday life. Well, it's certainly an interesting philosophy.
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Lillian has fortuitously coincided her visit with Ellis's first birthday.
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No, it's not just Ellis's stinky nappy that is causing Eleanor's nausea...
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There's another unexpected arrival, and this time it's a new baby sister for Ellis - welcome to the family, Esme!
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He's quite happy to have a new sibling, but can't wait for her to grow up a bit, so that they can play together properly.
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~ Gemini 5 / 5 / 4 / 3 / 9
~ Friendly / Slob
~ OTH: Games
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Perhaps as a result of being exposed to Lillian's extravagant headgear at such a young age, he also won't do anything or go anywhere without his green monster hat.
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taciturn-nerd · 3 months
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* Northanger Abbey Ending Spoilers *
I love the end of Northanger Abbey where Eleanor Tilney can finally marry the unnamed love of her life that happens to become a Viscount, and General Tilney just LOVES calling her "Your Ladyship" every chance he gets.
It puts him in a good enough mood for Eleanor to persuade him to give his consent for Henry and Catherine to marry, which he does with the tone of "Fine then! Go make your stupid decision! I already have a daughter with a fortune AND a title!"
Just... General Tilney :)
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fionacreates · 2 years
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Catherine Morland and Eleanor Tilney — Northanger Abbey - definitely girlfriends. 🏳️‍🌈❤️💖💜🏳️‍🌈
Catherine is a daydreaming disaster gay ofc. Eleanor must always be saving her from herself.
(In which I continue to read into old novels with modern queer eyes.)
Referenced portrait of Charlotte and Sarah Carteret-Hardy by Thomas Lawrence
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showmethesneer · 1 year
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Me: Wait, who did Eleanor marry?
Jane:
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vintage-jewel · 5 months
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Final bit of My-Husband-Reads-Northanger-Abbey content:
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I've been meaning to post this for a while, but life, ect. He finished, and besides being very happy that Catherine and Henry ended up together he had these thoughts:
On Isabella Thorpe: My Husband: ISABELLA! Me: What about her? My Husband: I know she's the worst, but after everything she writes to Catherine and is like "Heeeeeey how is your brother? There was this weird misunderstanding between us, I have no idea why. You should tell him to write to me." Ugh, SHE'S SO AWFUL!
On Eleanor Tilney's fate:
My Husband: I love that Jane Austen doesn't tell us who Eleanor marries. She's just like, "Imagine a guy. A nice guy. Just a really nice guy. Yea. That's who Eleanor marries, some nice guy."
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autumnrose11 · 6 months
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I LOVE this passage from Northanger Abbey. It’s one of the funniest parts of the book!
“And now, Henry," said Miss Tilney, "that you have made us understand each other, you may as well make Miss Morland understand yourself—unless you mean to have her think you intolerably rude to your sister, and a great brute in your opinion of women in general. Miss Morland is not used to your odd ways." "I shall be most happy to make her better acquainted with them." "No doubt; but that is no explanation of the present." "What am I to do?" "You know what you ought to do. Clear your character handsomely before her. Tell her that you think very highly of the understanding of women." "Miss Morland, I think very highly of the understanding of all the women in the world—especially of those—whoever they may be—with whom I happen to be in company." "That is not enough. Be more serious." "Miss Morland, no one can think more highly of the understanding of women than I do. In my opinion, nature has given them so much that they never find it necessary to use more than half.”
The not-quite-so-subtle-but-still-charming flirting..... “I shall be most happy to make her better acquainted with them....” , “... especially of those - whoever they may be - with whom I happen to be in company.” AGHHH! I adore his facetious, flippant sense of humour, the way his love for Catherine is veiled in these great quips!
And the exaggerated amendments and apology to his sister killed me. “No one can think more highly of the understanding of women than I do.”
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“Nature has given them so much that they never find it necessary to use more than half.” I tell you, this last bit had me giggling for a good five minutes 😂😂😂😂
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ardentlyinlovedarcy · 11 months
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miriel-therindes · 2 years
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good morning to: novel readers with vivid imaginations, sassy men who know about muslins, eleanor tilney, horrible girls who cheated on their fiance because he wasn't rich enough, dumb brothers who aren't entirely horrible, dead mothers, and everyone in Bath except for Mr. Th*rpe.
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Your favorite Northanger Abbey or S&S OT3 isn't there ? Tell me and I'll make a poll with them later
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bethanydelleman · 6 months
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Northanger Abbey Readthrough, Ch 8
Some hints that Isabella's affection for Catherine may not be all that it seems, starting with this, "Isabella having gone through the usual ceremonial of meeting her friend with the most smiling and affectionate haste" and then Isabella taking an entire three minutes to abandon her friend to dance.
I love this part:
She could not help being vexed at the non-appearance of Mr. Thorpe, for she not only longed to be dancing, but was likewise aware that, as the real dignity of her situation could not be known, she was sharing with the scores of other young ladies still sitting down all the discredit of wanting a partner. To be disgraced in the eye of the world, to wear the appearance of infamy while her heart is all purity, her actions all innocence, and the misconduct of another the true source of her debasement, is one of those circumstances which peculiarly belong to the heroine’s life, and her fortitude under it what particularly dignifies her character. Catherine had fortitude too; she suffered, but no murmur passed her lips.
This sentiment is so real, it's like assuring the waitress that you aren't at the café alone and your boyfriend is coming. Catherine wants people to know that she has a partner! She's not unselected and unknown. It doesn't matter that she may never see these people again, the disgrace is real.
Then worse (!) she finally sees Mr. Tilney again but she can't dance with him! The horrors! I love how Catherine doesn't fall for the "mistakes sibling for spouse" trope, which continues to happen in fiction to this day, but instantly realizes that Henry is with his sister.
Thorpe finally appears (ug) and he doesn't have any good excuse for keeping Catherine waiting. However, this reminds me of three other men:
of the horses and dogs of the friend whom he had just left, and of a proposed exchange of terriers between them
We know that Mr. Rushworth of Mansfield Park also annoyed a woman by talking too much of horses (his "sport" would include this) and dogs:
Maria, with only Mr. Rushworth to attend to her, and doomed to the repeated details of his day’s sport, good or bad, his boast of his dogs, his jealousy of his neighbours, his doubts of their qualifications, and his zeal after poachers, subjects which will not find their way to female feelings without some talent on one side or some attachment on the other Mansfield Park, Ch 12
Also, Sir John and Willoughby are arranging the exchange of some terriers:
Such a scoundrel of a fellow! such a deceitful dog! It was only the last time they met that he had offered him one of Folly’s puppies! and this was the end of it! Sense & Sensibility, Ch 32
Now I'm sure a big part of these quote aligning is just the era and being gentry, them with their fancy horses and fancy dogs, but both Rushworth and Sir John notably can't really talk to women, I think we can easily argue that Thorpe is in the same camp. And inconsiderate Tom Bertram delayed another woman from dancing with concern about horses:
He came towards their little circle; but instead of asking her to dance, drew a chair near her, and gave her an account of the present state of a sick horse, and the opinion of the groom Mansfield Park, Ch 12
The real problem here is that men are putting their concerns above doing a duty or a kindness to a woman. Sir John gets away with his devotion to hunting because he is very kind and accommodating otherwise, but John Thorpe, Mr. Rushworth, and Tom Bertram especially really show their selfishness and self-absorption in these scenes.
ANYWAY, joy of joys, Catherine is introduced to Eleanor Tilney, who seems like 10,000,000% more rational and genuine than Miss Thorpe:
Her manners showed good sense and good breeding; they were neither shy nor affectedly open; and she seemed capable of being young, attractive, and at a ball without wanting to fix the attention of every man near her, and without exaggerated feelings of ecstatic delight or inconceivable vexation on every little trifling occurrence.
Catherine does not immediately become friends with Eleanor, but engages in the very small talk that Henry spoofed back in Ch 3.
The faithless "faithful Isabella" reappears, but she's far too absorbed with James to really focus on Catherine, no matter what she claims. Both Catherine and Isabella refuse to dance with their partners more than once, though like Willoughby and Marianne, Isabella and James don't find new partners but instead talk with each other. Poor Catherine barely spends any time with Mr. Tilney as he got bored and danced with someone else.
Now, we know Catherine is already half in love with Henry at this point, but what is he thinking about her? He does seem to have sought her out and he asks her to dance again. This may just be polite, and he certainly feels that nothing is keeping him from finding another partner. I would say he probably enjoyed the first dance and is happy to see her again, but I doubt he's been dreaming of her...
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An adaptation of Northanger Abbey in which every character besides Catherine gets at least one scene in which they look at the camera like they're on The Office and Catherine gets more and more frustrated about not knowing what they're looking at but finds it too awkward to ask
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curiousb · 3 months
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The Mansfield House Yearbook: Volume IV
Back to school - or uni - today! And it's a bed-hopping bonanza, I warn you.
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Let's start with a game of whose buttocks are these, shall we?
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To put you out of your misery, they're Elliot's. And Olivia, I thought you were with James (as much as anyone is)?
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Well, these two look quite cosy together, so I guess Olivia has moved on, not wanting to compete with three other girls for James's attention?
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The next day, she decides it's time to put a ring on...
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James! OK, well - I guess you know your own heart best. Perhaps Elliot was a just a rebound thing?
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I think Elliot's expression says it all.
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Martha is none too pleased either - she thought she had first dibs on James - but Olivia swiftly puts her in her place! Semi-resident Llama Guy thinks it's the perfect time to celebrate with a school cheer though.
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But before I know it, Martha has already caused a rift between Olivia and her intended (I didn't see exactly what happened here), and seems rather delighted with herself as a result.
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It's not all about romance - sometimes there's some studying too! Actually, I lie, it is.
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When Eleanor drops round, Hester seems bent on creating domestic strife too.
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And Eleanor looks like she could very well be tempted to stray from her long-term partner Esther. I guess Esther's persistence in trying to tie Eleanor down is perhaps having the opposite effect, and driving them apart.
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Yup.
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James doesn't seem too concerned about being estranged from new fiancée Olivia, and hooks up again with Henrietta at the first opportunity.
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Disenchanted Olivia seeks solace with Elliot once again.
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And I just have no idea who is with whom any more!
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taciturn-nerd · 2 years
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Jane Austen's Henry Tilney is the most accurate Sibling-You-Love-to-be-Annoyed-at
(Catherine Morland) "…But now really, do not you think Udolpho the nicest book in the world?"
(Henry Tilney) "The nicest—by which I suppose you mean the neatest. That must depend upon the binding."
"Henry," said Miss Tilney, "you are very impertinent. Miss Morland, he is treating you exactly as he does his sister. He is forever finding fault with me, for some incorrectness of language, and now he is taking the same liberty with you. The word ‘nicest,’ as you used it, did not suit him; and you had better change it as soon as you can, or we shall be overpowered with Johnson and Blair all the rest of the way."
"I am sure," cried Catherine, "I did not mean to say anything wrong; but it is a nice book, and why should not I call it so?"
"Very true," said Henry, "and this is a very nice day, and we are taking a very nice walk, and you are two very nice young ladies. Oh! It is a very nice word indeed! It does for everything. Originally perhaps it was applied only to express neatness, propriety, delicacy, or refinement—people were nice in their dress, in their sentiments, or their choice. But now every commendation on every subject is comprised in that one word."
"While, in fact," cried his sister, "it ought only to be applied to you, without any commendation at all. You are more nice than wise. Come, Miss Morland, let us leave him to meditate over our faults in the utmost propriety of diction, while we praise Udolpho in whatever terms we like best.
Henry Tilney is the quintessential troll brother who loves to tease and be a smart aleck. You know he's smirking during this whole conversation and Eleanor is rolling her eyes but smiling.
Reminds me of my younger brother. When we were little I would tell him to get lost (I know I could have been nicer) but he would just have a look of abject horror and wail, "I'm lost! Where am I???" and stumble around my room in apparent confusion while I laughed and told him to get out of my room.
Jane Austen knew how to write brothers because she had several and I bet at least one was a troll (affectionate).
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firawren · 2 years
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I love the last sentence of this bit from chapter 25 of Northanger Abbey, where Catherine is speaking to Henry and Eleanor Tilney (emphasis mine):
“I do not believe Isabella has any fortune at all: but that will not signify in your family. Your father is so very liberal! He told me the other day that he only valued money as it allowed him to promote the happiness of his children.” The brother and sister looked at each other.
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