#elizabeth warleggan

[nervousladytraveler]

On Poldark tv show, why do you think Ross was so fixated with Eliz? Yes, her beauty was real, but he idealized, misjudged and fabricated who she really was. In the books, she is a pretty shallow vacuous character which the tv writer completely recreated. Yet on the show, he could never let her go, why? Next to Demelza's courage, strength, integrity, she pales in comparison.

Thanks @anonymous for the question! I think Debbie Horsfield et al felt that the love triangle made for good tv and didn't want to let that formula go, even when we viewers were getting a little tired of it. At a certain point in the novels, Winston Graham was also done with it and set aside for other plotlines. So it needed new fuel if it was going to continue past series 2, and DH provided this with loads of chance meetings and glances of Valentine, etc. The “does he or doesn’t he” dramatic tension around series Ross, wouldn't be believable or sellable if Elizabeth wasn’t at least a bit likable, thus her recreation as you called it. Perhaps also, the writing was also meant to update Elizabeth’s character, giving her more dimensions than book Elizabeth. But I think in doing this, DH lost sight of WG’s Demelza, who she also tried to update. Yes, her courage and strength is still there (and we are shown this time and again, speaking of formulas) but despite those admirable values, the scripts chip away at Demelza’s likeability. She harps and snips (and wears that horrible hat in S3…talk about character inconsistencies) and her Hugh storyline is about revenge and not the subtle and complicated web of human emotions and frailty that WG wrote about. 

I wonder if, in the end, DH’s changes to these essential characters in order to force the love triangle, resulted in us viewers liking them all--Ross, Elizabeth, Demelza--a little less? 

#poldark #ross poldark #demelza carne #elizabeth warleggan #ask nervousladytraveler

[costumeloverz71]

Elizabeth Warleggan (Heida Reed) Dark red dress.. Poldark (2015-2019).. Costume by Howard Burden.

#elizabeth warleggan #heida reed #poldark #howard burden

[periodperfection]

#heida reed #Elizabeth warleggan #jack farthing #george warleggan #poldark #poldarkedit #black and white #perioddramaedit #weloveperioddrama #edits

[urimaginarygirlfriend]

elizabeth is so sexy i need her so bad

#she’s my wife #poldark #elizabeth poldark #elizabeth chynoweth #elizabeth warleggan #ross poldark #george warleggan #francis poldark

[elyangelofdeath]

#poldark #ross x demelza #demelza carne #demelza poldark #eleanor tomlinson #ross poldark #aidan turner #drake carne #morwenna chynoweth #morwenna carne #dwight enys #caroline penvenen #caroline enys #elizabeth poldark #elizabeth chynoweth #serie tv #tv series #season 4 #osborne whitworth #elizabeth warleggan

[thoughtsonpoldark]

#poldark #demelza poldark #ross poldark #winston graham #romelza #demelza #elizabeth poldark #poldark books #poldark love #elizabeth warleggan

[belladcmum]

I don’t care who Ross Poldark loves more. Elizabeth or Demelza. I love Demelza enough for the both of us.

#ross x demelza #demelza carne #demelza poldark #Poldark #ross poldark #elizabeth poldark #elizabeth warleggan

[wildwren]

listen. demelza is a goddess, i would do anything to be her girl, and caroline is obviously an icon, but my poldark blorbos are without a doubt hands down the chynoweth women. like!!!!! they are so tragic, their fucked up relationship with each other and their mutual interrelated trauma makes me insane. look at them!!!!!!!! look at my girls!!!!!!!!!!!!

#ep 4x8 has once again destroyed me ://// #gnawing my arm off #elizabeth warleggan i love you soooooooo much you will always be famous to me #and i would die for morwenna like i would lay down my life #babygirl of all time #poldark #poldark rewatch

[durtystars]

never forgiving the show to write out liz constantly at war with george's uncle because she didn't like how he brought out the evil side of him....like that show gave her so little agency post S2 that in the end she as a character was also treated like a woman of the times by the writers, to just sit in the corner and play dolly

#poldark #elizabeth chynowyth #george warleggan #text #mine #don't even get me started on them literally making her a drug addict over every horror ratleggan put ppl through & THEY DID NOTHING WITH IT #someone please free her i'm begging

[dinathalawriter]

George marries a widow with 3 dependents after waiting for more than a decade (iirc) against his family's wish, knowing she might well not even want to sleep with him (Francis was no gentleman and he told his friend) and people say it's not love?

#poldark #george x elizabeth #george warleggan #villain in love

[niekie69]

🎃🍂🎃🍂🎃

#poldark #period drama #british period drama #period drama icons #digital fanart #george warleggan #Elizabeth Chynoweth

[penvcnens]

tag drop 2

#ii. ｢ caroline penvenen. ｣ #ii. ｢ dwight enys. ｣ #ii. ｢ ray penvenen. ｣ #ii. ｢ william penvenen. ｣ #ii. ｢ ross poldark. ｣ #ii. ｢ demelza poldark. ｣ #ii. ｢ george warleggan. ｣ #ii. ｢ elizabeth chynoweth. ｣ #ii. ｢ sophie enys. ｣ #ii. ｢ meliora enys. ｣ #ii. ｢ sarah enys. ｣ #ii. ｢ horace. ｣

[love-little-lotte]

A Look Into My New Guilty Pleasure: Poldark (2015 Series)

My biggest weakness is period dramas — especially period dramas with a talented cast, sweeping romance, terrific scenes (preferably set in some kind of country/provincial side), and lots and lots and lots of just sitting around and talking.

That's probably why Poldark has captured my heart. As a big fan of Outlander, it's no surprise that I fell in love with this show. Outlander and Poldark have so many similarities that I may make a lengthy post about it, but for today, let me just rant about my new guilty pleasure. I'm so obsessed with this show that I actually finished watching the entire five seasons in one week!

Poldark is based on Winston Graham's novels and adapted by Debbie Horsfield. I was so excited to start this show, with a male protagonist originally written by a man, created and written for a series by a woman. I haven't read Graham's novels (I'm going to one of these days, I swear!), so I'm not sure how well Debbie's adaption worked. I've read many Reddit threads, though, and some fans of the novel are not that impressed with how she omitted and added details to the show (will get back to this once I've read the books or at least the seven ones that were used in the show). The show has also been adapted in the 70s, so this was not the first time Graham's novels were seen onscreen!

Despite not having read the books, I fell in love with the story, the characters, and the cast! The show follows Ross Poldark returning to Cornwall after fighting in the American War in the 1780s. He looks forward to marrying his childhood sweetheart Elizabeth but, believing him to be dead, is now engaged to his cousin Francis. He then tries to resurrect his family's mining business and hires a young girl Demelza to be his kitchen maid (whom he eventually marries) while also crossing paths with the villain George Warleggan, a corrupted banker who stops at nothing to ruin Ross's prospects and personal life. As the show progresses, we also meet other characters, including Prudie and Jud, Ross's servants, Verity, Ross's cousin and Francis's sister; Ross's friend Dr. Dwight Enys and his love interest Caroline Penvenen; Sam and Drake Carne, Demelza's brothers, and Morwenna Chynoweth, Drake's love interest.

Yes, this show has a large ensemble cast, and trust me, there always comes a point when you hate or love them. Especially our protagonist Ross Poldark. Ross... is an interesting character. He's terribly, terribly flawed and many times times, I'm so infuriated with him to the point that I want him to suffer. I swear, you cannot go through this series without screaming at Ross. (When that moment came up in Season 2, I swear I had my middle finger ready every time Ross showed up on my screen from then on.)

But my favorite character in the show is Demelza, Ross's wife who started as his kitchen maid. She's the heart of the show, the voice of reason, and even though she makes questionable decisions along the way, you can't help but get on her side no matter what. She's the perfect fiery yet gentle match to Ross's stubbornness. He treats her like shit many times in this show, which makes me angry to no end, but they eventually grow to be understanding, loving partners.

And it also helps that Aidan Turner and Eleanor Tomlinson have one of the best romantic chemistries I've ever seen. They're terrific actors as well and they bring the characters to life so effortlessly. They just seem like they have the best time shooting this show. I kind of want to rewatch Loving Vincent now just because they're in that movie, even just in supporting roles.

Poldark is a roller coaster, with so many ups and downs (mostly downs, to be honest, please give Demelza a break!) My favorite season has got to be Season 1. Season 1 had the best Ross and I loved the early stages of his relationship with Demelza. It also has my favorite episode: Season 1, Episode 8. That episode broke me so much, thanks to Aidan and Eleanor's perfect performances. It's the only time I ever cried watching this show. I usually cry in period dramas (I've cried countless times in Outlander and Downton Abbey), but for some reason, I only cried once in Poldark. Most of the time, I'm annoyed and infuriated (hahaha but I still love it!)

The romance in Poldark is also quite unique, something I haven't seen before. Ross and Demelza emotionally hurt each other many times in this show, and they don't have the best communication. It's not an ideal marriage, but that's what makes it so raw and real. It hurts when Ross sleeps with his first love Elizabeth or when Demelza falls for the much-sensitive Hugh Armitage, but these are challenges people face all the time, and it's interesting to view it in characters and circumstances through 18th-century lenses. Plus, it can be very tiring to see perfect couples onscreen all the time. So watching Ross and Demelza's relationship thrive, suffer, and reconcile is very refreshing to me.

Nevertheless, Ross and Demelza are still able to work together. Seasons 2 and 3 showcase the worst moments of their marriage, from infidelities to insecurity, but the love between them still perseveres and they learn to forgive. In the end, they realize that they belong together.

And despite the unconventional marriage, Poldark is not a stranger to grand romantic gestures. Two of my favorite Ross and Demelza moments occur in Season 2:

A real funny, old-married-couple type of bicker in The Beach Scene:

And of course, showing all intimacy in The Stocking Scene:

(Let's just not talk about what happened 2 episodes after this!)

The romance in Poldark not only ends with Ross and Demelza. We also got two really good couples in the series: Dwight and Caroline and Drake and Morwenna.

And these love stories don't just happen! They're fleshed-out characters with proper backgrounds and their own problems, especially Drake and Morwenna's relationship. Morwenna is one of my favorite characters, and she doesn't deserve all the shit thrown at her. The last season of Poldark is not the best (bordering on bad, actually, especially the last two episodes), but watching Drake and Morwenna get their happy ending is worth it.

Finishing all five seasons is bittersweet. I enjoyed most of the story and fell in love with different characters. I kind of regret watching everything in one week haha. But what can I say? As soon as I finish each episode, I'm so tempted to start another episode. I think the last time I stayed up until 5 AM the next morning to watch TV shows was Yellowjackets. Poldark's just too good to binge! It's one of my favorite TV shows now. Maybe I'll watch Sanditon next...

I want to write more about Poldark soon, maybe a comparison with Outlander or maybe just a post about each character. I realized I hadn't talked much about Elizabeth, Francis, and George in this post; I was too preoccupied with the love story aspects and Ross and Demelza. We'll see!

#poldark #poldark 2015 #ross poldark #demelza poldark #aidan turner #eleanor tomlinson #period drama #tv shows #a bit of a rant #current obsession!!!!

[nervousladytraveler]

On Poldark tv series, the writer really diminished Ross' relationship with his kids. In the books he is an attentive loving father, but in the show he cared for GC but was almost indifferent to his children. Why? Why couldn't they have had some nice scenes of them talking or interacting on the farm or with the animals, at bedtime etc. They had time for GC and Val scenes. Seemed Dem was bringing them up herself. Didn't like how they portrayed him as a father. Your thoughts.

Thanks @anonymous for the ask! 

On the one hand, I’ve heard it is really hard to work with little kids (and animals) on sets, so I suppose giving the Poldark kiddies lines and significant action in scenes would be a stretch. I also heard the little fellow who played Jeremy in S2 was…well, he was a toddler, and probably acted like one, so he was a bit tricky to work with. And I also heard that Jeremy in S3 was a real sweetheart to work with, but had a really strong Welsh accent so they didn’t give him lines? (If any of this is not true please correct me. I can't refer to my sources because this was hearsay from like 5 years ago). So I understand those filming restraints. Also, the scenes we did have with Ross and his babies were super cute (I’m thinking of S3 and 4). But there were just so few! Ross holds Jeremy like twice in all of S2 so in S3 when he makes eye contact with Jeremy or holds his hand, we feel it is such a great development.

And yet there was much more screen time for Ross and wee Val (and earlier for GC) and it's the contrast that gets my goat. So to answer your question of why, my guess is the showrunners who really liked the Ross/Elizabeth story (and its aftermath) chose drama over domestic fluff, but that fluff is what we fans might prefer. 

Winston Graham wrote loads of little bits about the kids (also about the pets) that lent so much color to the story. These scenes gave the kids character, showed what kinds of parents Ross and Demelza were, and demonstrated that WG understood what it means to be a parent--kids don’t just fade conveniently to the background just because the adults are having big feelings. In the stocking (garters) scene in Warleggan, Jeremy is there, in the room, running around in a new hat while R & D are having their intimate moment! WG’s kids were flesh and blood, not window dressing. They get silly and tired and eat too many treats at Christmas parties. I love that on occasion, the kids start crying because Demelza is crying and that upsets them (Jeremy in Warleggan and Clowance in the Four Swans).

But back to the series…my personal favorite Jeremy and Clowance (actors) were from the second half of S4. They both had such charming tangles of curly hair and exuded so much joy in their surroundings. So if it appeared that Demelza was raising them herself, she at least seemed to be doing a good job.

#poldark #ask nervousladytraveler

[thoughtsonpoldark]

The ‘memory of an old love’ can trigger the greatest fear of losing your current one.

‘‘Though I once loved Elizabeth, it’s been the memory of that love that bit deepest tonight …what I have seen last night – makes me sick at heart – sick for all the charm and beauty that is lost – in Elizabeth. But most of all it makes me afraid.”

“Afraid, Ross? What of?”

“Of losing you, I suppose.”

“D’you realize there will come a time, there will have to come a time, when I shall never hear your voice again, or you mine? It may be sentimental to say so, but this – this fact is something I find intolerable, unthinkable, beyond bearing . . .”

#poldark #ross poldark #demelza poldark #winston graham #romelza #poldark quotes. #demelza #elizabeth poldark #poldark love #elizabeth warleggan #aidan turner #eleanor tomlinson #TheAngryTide

[texaswoman]

On the night Ross had sex with Elizabeth he is gone from Nampara for several hours. This is my story of what might have happened those missing hours unwritten in the fourth novel Warleggan. I borrow much from Winston Graham.

He lifted Elizabeth in his arms and carried her to the bed.

He put his lips against her neck. He smelled her hair and tasted her skin. He fumbled with his clothes and pushed her dress away. He tore her delicate underclothes. In his anger he was not gentle. She didn’t cry out when he took her. He took her hard and fast and in a few minutes it was over. Ross was breathing heavily as he fell to Elizabeth’s side. They lay still and did not speak. No words of love. Nor promises either. He was tired, so tired.

Ross slept and while he slept he dreamt of Demelza. She was in her garden and Jeremy was by her side. Demelza was scolding Jeremy for picking the blooms off of the daffodils. Turning to Ross she remarked on the lilac bush. “It needs trimming Ross.” She repeated his name. “Ross?” He awoke suddenly to the sound of his name. Where was he? The brown curtains,the dressing mirror, a rocking horse. He remembered now. He was in Elizabeth’s bedroom. Sitting up he saw her standing by a window. Her beauty was mesmeric. She heard his movement and turned and stared. She thought how his scar was very noticeable in the candlelight. Turning away from her, Ross rose from the bed and straightened his clothing. He turned back once again to look at her and she met his gaze with bitter hostility. The clock struck one accentuating the stillness of the night.

Ross left the bedroom. Elizabeth heard his footsteps as he went down the stairs. He stopped in the winter parlor where he had sat with Elizabeth weekly, ever since the death of Francis. The wind howled down the big fireplace and the old windows rattled. What he had done that night had brought Elizabeth very much down into the arena. He’d loved Elizabeth before he ever met Demelza. It was something fundamental, a constant attachment. He had wanted Elizabeth for years and now had experienced with her the most intimate act between a man and a woman. ‘The expense of spirit in a waste of shame.’ What was the rest? ‘Is lust in action.’ “‘You treat me like a slut’” She’d said. “‘It’s time you were so treated’” he’d said.

When he broke into Trenwith house a few hours ago he was searching for solutions. He had only succeeded in creating new problems. As Ross sat in the old parlor he thought he should return to Elizabeth to thrash the whole thing out but he did not know what to say and the impossibility of explaining himself was stopping him. He went outside and whistled for Darkie.

Demelza lie awake listening for Ross. Waiting to hear his footsteps and see him walk into their bedroom. She was sure he would tell her Elizabeth’s marriage would not go on. He would say he had only come home to get his things and he would return to Trenwith to live with Elizabeth. Demelza would leave and find work. Jeremy would stay with Ross and Jane would see to Jeremy. Demelza closed her eyes but sleep would not come.

When Ross left Trenwith he rode Darkie for miles far beyond Nampara. He thought of Demelza whom he had loved devotedly for six years and still did love. How could he explain the unexplainable to her? He began to think of their years together. The first years of love. And Julia. The happiness at her birth.The sadness at her death. His trial. Their poverty. The birth of Jeremy. Now he was in torment. He had committed adultery.

The moon that had lit his way was now lower in the sky. He turned Darkie around and began his journey back to Nampara. As he neared the beach he would bathe there before going home, to wash away the smell of Elizabeth. As he left the water the morning sky was becoming brighter, it must be nearly five. He walked up the meadow to the stable where he left Darkie. Cobbledick would see to Darkie. Ross would shave and change his clothes in the mining shed. By now the Gimmlets would be up and busy tending to the morning chores. He entered the house through the library and went into the parlor. Jane was there, setting the table for breakfast. A pitcher of milk, sugar basin, two plates, knives, forks, spoons, a butter dish. She looked up as he entered the parlor and in a peculiar voice asked if the mistress was awake. He replied quietly: “I think Demelza is asleep. Don’t wake her'' He listened and could hear Jeremy crowing in his cot. It was a favorite thing for them to lay together, side by side, and listen to Jeremy in the mornings. Jane brought his breakfast and he was nearly finished when he heard movement from their bedroom up stairs. Moments later he heard her voice in the kitchen and then he saw the door to the parlor open. Demelza came in and they looked at each other. At that moment he knew that she knew.

#poldark #ross poldark #demelza poldark #elizabeth Poldark #May 9th