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anchorandrope · 3 years

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FAQ for newbies: introduction edition

this FAQ belongs to a series of faq’s made by @louismyantidote, @yourhabit28 and me.

spanish version – versión en español

1. what is larry?

if you know nothing about larry stylinson we recommend you read this post.

2. if we no longer have current photos of them together, how do we know that they’re still together?

if the reason you think they are in a relationship is only because of photos from 2011, its because you didnt understand the closeting. larries dont think that they are in a relationship just because they looked at each other with all the love in the world, are their body languages important and one more proof of their love? yes, but the reasons are many and most of them are based on the inconsistencies and the terrible work they did with the stunts and beards, on the complementary tattoos, on the songs and how they connect, on the sarcasm and nervousness at the time of denying stuff, etc.

it must be understood that the reason why its thought that they’re still in a relationship nowadays is because the “proofs” are cumulative, that means, they dont disappear from year to year. what shows us that they’re still together isnt only the current situation but also the past. the fact that there are no current photos doesnt mean that how badly the elounor stunt was carried out or the rbb&sbb existence never happened.

noticed that we put proof in quotation marks; because although they are the things that prove our point, their purpose isnt to “prove” that they are together, no one needs to prove anything to us, they didnt get complementary tattoos just to prove to us that we are right, they did it for themselves, for example.

3. can you send me all the larry info so i can continue believing in it? because i’ve been doubting a lot lately

if you constantly need “proofs” to keep thinking that they are in a relationship its because you dont see them as a real life relationship but as a fantastic one. you dont ask couples for “proofs” of their relationship so you can be assured that they are together.

we understand that if one is misinformed on the subject (especially about how closeting and contracts work) its difficult to understand why they havent come out of the closet yet but let us tell you that we can show you all the “proofs” in the world but if you cant understand why what happens happens none of these proofs will make you “continue to believe” because if you dont understand how the industry works, it makes it impossible to understand the situation.

4. am i a larrie if i believe in a stunt? how larrie am i if i think louis is a father?

being a larrie is to believe that louis and harry were and are in a relationship, not believing in any stunt including babygate.

(differentiate larry from larrie: larry is louis and harry and larrie are us - more on terms)

the definition of larrie is one and its not gonna change just because you dont like it. you fulfill the definition of larrie? you’re a larrie, you dont fulfill the definition of larrie? then you’re not a larrie.

there is no “larrieometer” to measure how larrie you are, or you are or you arent, simple.

we know that the idea isnt to tell people what they are or what they are not, but when defining ourselves we are strict because first, there are many different opinions, which is why a fixed definition is necessary to be able to identify ourselves and secondly, because if the definition of larrie would be to “ship them” larries would be the same as drarry’s fandoms or other similar ones and NO. we arent here to use them as a ship from a movie.

5. why am i not a larrie if i believe in some stunt?

as we said earlier, being a larrie is thinking that they are in a real life relationship.

real life isnt a fanfic, in real life people who are in the closet because of the industry dont fall in love with their beards/stunts, they dont have a good time with them nor they enjoy it, they dont cheat on their partner with them, etc.

to think louis cheated on/broke up with harry, had a child and they got back together as if nothing happened is totally illogical. do you think louis and harry would still be together if that happened? does it seem normal and real to you to say that from one day to the next they broke up, louis had a son and magically harry wasnt hurt and he forgives him and they came back? does it seem normal and common in relationships for people to broke up and come back all the time as if nothing happened?

stop fictionalizing louis and harry’s life just to make it look like a fanfic, they didnt fight against closeting for all this years for some teenagers to come to make a fanfic out of their lives.

6. if i stop believing in larry because i dont understand the industry, is it wrong?

first, we know that the term “believe in larry” has always been used and everyone understands what you mean when you say it, but larries dont believe they are in a relationship, its not a theory that we choose to believe, we think (at this point we know) that they are in a relationship.

if you genuinely understand how things work, you dont see something to believe or not believe, you see a reality in which you take a position on it (whatever it may be) and that’s why we say that there are no “ex-larries” or that “unlarried” doesnt exist because if you understand this you dont “stop believing in it”.

if you dont want to understand the situation, dont even call yourself a larrie nor try being in the fandom, we wish you all the happiness in the world but if you dont want to educate yourself, dont look for us!

7. are louis and harry friends with their beards/stunts?

no. we arent telling you that they hate each other to death but they arent going to be friends with people who arent only part of their closeting but also take advantage of it.

you have to understand that louis and harry arent the only people who are managed and forced to do things by the industry, could it be that some stunt have been forced to participate? yeah, were all the stunts forced? no.

harry and eleanor arent best friends, eleanor wasnt forced to be a beard, they would never be friends with a person who decided on her own to get involved in this.

8. why are some stunts more credible than others?

the idea of the stunts is that they are as credible as possible, the fact that most of them were terribly executed is another issue.

the stunts not only work as part of the closeting but also, as their name says, for promo. stunts must be as credible as possible for the promo to work as its supposed to.

why would they do a stunt with the intention that no one believes it? makes no sense.

making stunts look “casual” is yet another marketing strategy, instead of doing pap walks they “leak” photos of poorer quality and from weird angles so they can say “oh look! this photo was taken by a fan! clearly they are really dating since it was a fan who took the photo and not a paparazzi!” when in reality everything is just as prepared.

9. why did louis and harry as well as some of their family and friends deny larry?

we dont know what you expected... if they are in the closet, isnt it obvious that they will deny it? we’re just saying, because let’s say that if they dont deny it then they are coming out of the closet which is clearly not the idea of closeting yk.

if you think that thanks to the fact that they signed a contract they cant come out of the closet, why are you “disappointed” when they fulfill what the contract says? do you think that out of nowhere the contract ceases to be valid when they are asked directly or?

also, we remind you that they confirmed it more times than they denied it so you would be worrying about the wrong thing.

10. are they going to come out of the closet at some point? maybe they got used to the stunts

how is anyone going to get used to being a prisoner of contracts? that now that they are older and they know how to handle the situation better doesnt mean that they enjoy it, how can someone be okay with not being free?

in our opinion (and we think we speak for all larries when we say this) is that they are going to come out. everything that begins ends and this is not the exception. lots of mega famous artists made it out, why wouldnt they?

stop worrying about the CO, stop setting dates and stop asking us when its going to be (nobody knows), its not the important thing about this. we are here to support them, not just to be aware of when they are going to come out.

11. is the babygate going to end?

yes, its impossible for them to keep it forever, not only because it will reach a point where it wont be able to be maintained because the child cant live having a double life forever and also louis will do everything to get out of that, he would never allow live his whole life keeping that lie.

12. why is babygate a stunt?

a stunt is an advertising strategy of any kind and the babygate is one.

it was an advertising strategy because it was a scandal. the promotion that babygate made to one direction during 2015 was enormous, its purpose was not only to keep louis in the closet but also to publicize.

13. i saw this on tiktok/twitter/instagram/ facebook/etc, is it real?

99% of everything that comes out of these apps is fake, is debunked or manipulated so ask if its fake or not to confirm it but know that the answer 99% of the time is going to be no.

advice: if you want to be in the fandoms of those apps, its perfect but we recommend you to ask yourself if what you see makes sense and investigate about that, we believe that you will enjoy the fandom of those apps more if instead of seeing “info” you see edits, photos, etc :)

14. are the prediction accounts or those that claim to be one/some of the boys real?

no. the prediction accounts always say things that are possible to happen so if they hit some of them its because of that its not because they are secretly the boys.

are the guys likely to have a secret account where they are free to take a closer look at the fandom? yes. any average person is going to want to see what their own fandom says about them so it stands to reason that they have a private account. now, the idea of that secret account is it to be secret, so it makes no sense to give “clues” that its you. no account claiming to be boys is real.

besides, from accounts like crownbeeolive and all those, do you think that some men of almost 30 are going to have an account on instagram to give predictions that usually dont make sense? also that the account claims to be the secret girlfriend of niall adjdjaks come on people use logic.

15. why, if they are already free, have they still not come out of the closet?

who said they are free? nobody is free in the entertainment industry and also the contracts they signed while in the band dont disappear like that just because they change management or label. when they change management or label it means that they will stop signing new contracts with the previous ones and will start signing with the new ones, which is good since it makes them stop signing with those who started everything but that doesnt mean that all previously signed contracts lose all their validity.

16. are harry and jeff best friends?

no, they have a working relationship. they hate each other? no, but calling any relationship that occurs in the workplace a friendship isnt correct. jeff is interested in earning money just like his father and everyone else in the industry. he isnt with harry because he likes him, he is with him because he sells.

17. why, if its a stunt, are there photos of them together/they went to this place together/they spent this day together?

do you think that a beard/stunt is going to be credible if there are no photos of them together or no photos of them with their families? for example, elounor already shows how fake it is even with photos of her with lou’s family, imagine how obvious it would be if those photos didnt exist.

understand that the job of being a beard is literally that, taking a couple of photos with the other person’s friends and family, taking a couple of papwalks, uploading some occasional instragam story, etc.

they are doing their job, that’s why those photos exist.

18. why when 1D went on hiatus louis and harry didnt come out of the closet?

when 1D split, the contracts didnt magically disappear. 1D’s separation has nothing to do with larry.

louis until july 2020 was still very attached to simon and syco so for his part there was no progress and harry went to columbia records and has jeff azoff as his manager and although until recently he was better than louis he is still tied to the stunts and everything he signed in the past.

except for harry’s image there was almost no change since they got out of 1D. neither of them were freed from the past just by leaving one direction.

19. am i a bad fan if i dont know some things or if im new?

not at all, there’s no such thing as being a good or a bad fan because there are no requirements to be a fan of someone. if you like their music and appreciate them is more than enough.

20. why are some larry proof so absurd?

on the internet you will find many larry “proofs” that dont make any sense and the one who have to realize that is you using your own criteria.

when one just begins to investigate larry, some things may seem “crazy” or “absurd” since its difficult to understand that they can only speak through actions, gestures, details, etc. and not through direct words. you have to take the time to understand that that t-shirt that he wear, that song that he wrote or that face that he made are the only way they can “talk” to us.

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1. is one direction coming back?

of course this is something we dont know but many people including us believe that they will come back and we dont say it because we miss the band, we say it because its really really likely to happen.

the subject is very extensive but the return of one direction would bring huge profits. 1D was a super successful band with thousands of fans and many fans continue to join the fandom every year, if they decide to come back and release an album and/or tour the sales will be the highest sale of all their careers. do they enjoy their solo careers? of course but the return of one direction is a business that nobody wants to miss.

there’s no chance that they wont take advantage of this to earn money, not only are the boys going to want to do it but many people above them are going to want it too.

btw dont get excited because we dot believe that we’re near the return!

2. why would the boys want to get back together if they hated the band?

they didnt hate the band and they said it and proved it thousands of times. they had to deal with horrible things but the band brought them a lot of good things. it gave them friends, a job, a future. they had a bad time in many ways but are still grateful for the many good things it brought them.

if they come back it wont be the same as before (in any way) so not only will it be with a different team but they will also be much older so they will already know how to handle the situation better.

3. but why are they going to get back together if they are now free?

they arent free, as we said before, nobody is free and they still have the band’s contracts.

besides, do you see them free now? we shouldnt explain about louis and harry, zayn lives being sabotaged, liam said and demonstrated many times that his team control basically everything, etc. do you call that freedom?

4. do boys hate each other?

no. not only did they say and show that they dont hate each other but this is yet another marketing strategy, the fact that they divide the fandoms so much and cause problems between them and shows it as “impossible” the return of the band and the friendship between the boys makes the triple impact when it happens. if now we see the boys together and okay with each other, if they come back no one will be surprised because we would say “it was obvious, if we always saw them together”.

5. was the zouis fight real?

we personally believe that they probably have fought but the twitter fight seems it was made specifically for promo. the fight itself didnt make much sense and also the fact that it was made public and on twitter makes things more than obvious.

6. why did zayn fought with everyone and left the band? if one direction comes back, would he also come back?

this question is very controversial so it depends a lot on who you ask. in our opinion, its quite possible that the reason zayn left the band was actually multiple reasons and not just for mental health.

we know that many people dont think the same but we honestly see it as marketing. we are convinced that there were problems behind the scenes but those problems werent the ones that caused all this.

from the first moment they used zayn’s departure for PR and there were always contradictions in the story and so many contradictions are only synonymous with lies. we believe that it makes a lot of sense that this is marketing since it contributed a lot in the promotion of mitam and MOM and would contribute a lot in the case of a return (as we explained above, the more impossible it seems, the more profit and impact). anyway, we cant say for sure what happened or what will happen.

7. is it wrong to miss the band or want them to come back even though i like their solo careers?

well if you joined the fandom recently, you cant technically miss something that you never experienced, although we understand what you mean, you have the desire to have lived it, which is super understandable and valid. what you feel about the band will always be valid, nobody can invalidate your feelings. since you have that desire to experience it, its very likely that you want the band to return since you want to live that experience, which isnt wrong.

that you prefer the band or solo careers is a personal opinion just as its to prefer the solo career of eg niall or liam. they are simply tastes/preferences, there’s nothing wrong with preferring one thing over another.

8. is it wrong to be ot5?

being ot5 means supporting the career of the 5 as soloists. NOTHING else. in other apps they modified the term to something that has nothing to do with the original one. enjoying the music of the 5 has nothing wrong

9. what is the difference between simon, sony, syco and modest?

this post explains it very well but here is a mini summary of what it says:

simon cowell -> who’s he. he is the creator of and judge of the x factor, the program where the band was formed. one direction specifically signed contracts with him in addition to having signed with sony, syco and modest.

sony -> is a record company, is in charge of the recordings of the songs and their distribution.

syco -> is a record label, is in charge of producing artists (making music videos, interviews, album promotion, etc)

modest! -> its a management company, they are in charge of representing an artist and giving him an image (they are the artist’s managers).

10. the other boys had stunts?

yes, all artists have and even more the members of a boyband. its up to you to think what they were.

these were quick answers to the most frequently asked questions when someone from another app comes to tumblr, please investigate everything further <3

#for newbies #FAQ for newbies serie

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toobadforthefacts · 7 years

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Louis, Harry, Family and Friends’ Denials of Larry (as a Whole or as a Theory) and Confirmation of Elounor

(@seirral4) [Updated 13/08/2017]

[DISCLAIMER: this post has been recreated due to 1arry-isnt-rea1′s deactivation. Everything has been compiled and written by them, except when stated otherwise: the version retrieved was old, so some debunks went missing, and the situation needed to be mended. Also some links were updated, some denials reorganized, and some lexicon actualized: Larry Shippers --> Larries to avoid confusion. Give credit when you share some else’s contents.]

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Larries seem to think Harry and Louis have not denied Larry. They have, yet Larries still make up excuses for it.

I wanted to make a post showing all family or friends who have denied Larry at some point. This post is not only Larry denials, but confirmations of Elounor or denials of a theory of Larry (i.e. tattoos and such).

I never see people talk about most of these denials.

Guess why?

Like I have always said, Larries only see what they want to. They ignore everything that disproves or doesn’t support their ship.

I can also hear every Larrie scream, “THEY DIDN’T SAY ‘LARRY ISN’T REAL’ THOUGH."

That is a USELESS excuse. They do not need to say those three words to convey the same message. If that is your excuse for everything you will see in this post, you are helpless and clueless. Do not bother reading.

Lastly, if you are a Larrie and consider anyone in this post "irrelevant,” just remind yourself that you believe day old Twitter accounts who claim to have seen Larry with no proof. Everyone in this post has met the boys multiple times, is a good friend of the boys, or are family members. Not random people behind a screen who can easily make up lies.

[Image and video heavy.]

***Quick Note: I will post old screenshots if the reply was hard to find on my iPhone version of Twitter. Sometimes it just shows his or her tweet (which I would specifically search for) but not the original tweet he or she had replied to, then I will also post a screenshot on the current version of Twitter to show it is real. If the current version of Twitter shows both the fan’s tweet and his or her reply, I will only post that.

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Stanley Lucas

Stanley had replied to Louis’ tweet about Eleanor and his anniversary. Shortly after that, Stanley’s started replying to Larries who were spamming and harassing him with tweets talking about how Larry is real and Elounor is fake.

He started by just replying with “weird” to fans. Then he tweeted the following picture:

This tweet has been deleted. If you are doubting whether or not it’s real, go type in his tweet and @ name. There are tons of quoted tweets from that day on that time. It was real.

He then tweeted the following:

He continued to reply to many fans about different things. I’m only showing the ones about Larry or Elounor. In the following screenshot, you will see the fan’s question and his answer.

Next, the screenshot is of the current version of Twitter. You can look up this tweet yourself to verify that it is real.

He continued on and on. Here is yet another.

Once again, here is the screenshot from the current version of twitter.

The Larries really did harass him that day. He continues on.

Love how he called the theory of Larry “rubbish.” Now here is the screenshot form the current version of Twitter.

Then one fucking idiot said believing in Larry was an opinion, and Stan was wrong even though he has known Louis for years. He replied to her as well.

Now the current screenshot.

One again, he replied to a Larrie. This time it included Harry.

I could not find the tweet to take a current screenshot when I searched for it. I didn’t scroll through his account. I don’t know if it was deleted or not, but it was real. There are many quoted tweets from it on the same day and time.

In the next one, he tells a Larrie how crazy her theory is.

Then he continues to tell Larries that Louis is straight because they are STILL NOT GETTING IT.

Once again, he sets Larries straight on the difference between a fact and an opinion.

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Max Hurd

Max Hurd is one of Eleanor’s best friends. As far as I can tell, she has known him before she met Louis or around the same time.

On September 9, 2012, a Larrie harassed him by calling Eleanor a beard. He had the following conversation with them.

If you don’t believe this happened, feel free to search up the tweets. They are still there and ver underrated. Almost no one even noticed this conversation.

Next one. On February 27, 2014, Max again replied to a Larrie who assumed Eleanor was his girlfriend. Apparently, if you are a girl and a boy, you can’t be friends without people thinking you’re fucking. He replied with this:

Again, this got barely any attention. I wonder why. Once again, feel free to search up the tweets. They are still there.

Now let’s move on to Max’s Instagram comments. I will first post a screenshot of the picture the comments are located on, so those who want to look them up themselves can. Then I will post a screenshot of the comment he replied to and his reply.

Yes, this is his real Instagram. He has had it forever, and he is constantly uploading new pictures.

These screenshots confirm Elounor more than deny Larry, but just wait, those are coming up.

I like how he added the, “Deluded, weird, blocked,” at the end there.

These are really funny to me because the whole Gretchen and Tina thing is beyond hilarious.

Anyways, again, he does not have to say “Larry isn’t real” to tell you the same thing. Also, he only confirms Elounor once again. How many times has he done that so far?

“I am not going to answer any of your larry bullshit because I actually cannot get my head around how screwed up and cruel you are to accuse my friend of being hired to be someone’s girlfriend.”

“You need to open your eyes and stop seeing what you want to see and realize what is actually there. Which is a long term relationship between two people who love each other."

”…so piece together some weird fantasy for yourself"

Larries, look up the word fantasy if you don’t understand how this is a denial.

Next.

All of these started because Larries continued to harass Max about “Gretchen” and “Tina” even though he has already addressed it.

Max comments “Y'all need Jesus,” so a Larry Shipper comments, “Max needs to get dick out his ass and be more mature and Jesus isn’t real so no one needs him.”

Max then replies with, “Neither is 'Larry’ so you need to find a different obsession to waste your life on.”

DID YOU READ THAT, LARRiES? He just told you Larry isn’t real without using those words. Stop using your bullshit excuse of needing those three words in the same order.

Last one, finally.

Before anyone loses their shit, he did mentioned the girl again and apologized for the “Die in a hole you fucking peasant” part.

Anyways, he again does not say the exact words, “Larry isn’t real” but I think, “something that is as real as the tooth fairy” is descriptive enough for Larries to get the point.

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Sasha Malik

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Julian Bunetta

Julian is one of the boys’ songwriters and producers.

No, he does NOT work for Modest. He would work under the label.

Yes, this is his twitter.

No, he is not verified, but the boys have mentioned him in tweets before.

In the first screenshot, a fan is annoying Julian with questions as to whether Larry is real or not. He replied:

This is a perfect example of something I said at the beginning of the post.

No, he did not say “Larry isn’t real”, however he said it in a different way. You guys do realize what the word “imaginary” means, correct?

Also, if Larry was real, he would not have responded. He has no obligation to reply to fans on Twitter. He gets tons of questions, especially when he begins answering many fans at once. He did NOT have to answer, but he choose to. I wonder why.

This tweet is still there, you can look it up if you would like.

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Simon Jones of Hackford Jones PR

I could not find exactly what Simon’s job title is. He definitely works at HJPR, he might even own it since his last name is in the company’s name. Regardless, his role at the company is a very important one. On July 19, 2014 he tweeted this:

I wanted to verify the fact that this company represents One Direction. The screenshot below is from their website. I highlighted the part that says they do in fact represent the boys.

No, this is not a denial of Elounor or Larry, but it is a denial that the company has even purposely fabricated a relationship. That would include Elounor, Zerrie, Sophiam, Haylor, and so on.

Also, I found this on their website. It’s a testimonial from Modest Management.

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Fizzy’s Best Friend, Tasha

This happened only a few days ago, feel free to look it up. It is real.

Before you start questioning if this account is real, it is. Her Ask in linked to her Instagram, which Fizzy follows.

If you are a Larrie, before you lose your shit, she later said she knew Larry didn’t actually destroy their friendship. However, it still did affect it.

I don’t want to hear how Fizzy’s best friend wouldn’t know anything. My best friend knows everything about my life. When I am talking about shit that pisses me off, she is there to listen. I’m sure it is the same way with Fizzy.

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Gemma Styles

No, this is not a direct denial. However, I do think it is telling of what Gemma thinks of Larry. Remember, she did not need to reply to this. She has fans tweeting her tons of things, and she is not obligated to reply to any of it. She choose to reply to this, and it was probably to deny the ridiculous rumor that she was “hinting” Larry was real. Notice how all their proof is assumptions that they believe are hints?

[Added Aug 2017]

But Larries can’t have nice things, so it was a matter of time really for Gemma to end up denying Larry. It was on Tumblr after she received this ask:

It’s been since then deleted, but that doesn’t take her words back. People that believe in Larry are a WASTE.

The next one is not a proper Larry denial, but more like the first example. Around week after Freddie Tomlinson was born Gemma liked this on IG:

Larries immediately took it as a sign, claimed she was shading “babygate,” and that it meant the denial of Freddie being Louis’ son was coming SOON (yeah, they always say that.) Of course nothing happened, and asked to clarify Gemma said this:

The mentality that implies that everything is connected to the thing that matters to them is actually a trait of conspiracy theorists’ mentality. Anyway, as we all know, “babygate” didn’t “end”, thus this became another sort of Larry denial, and proof that the family of the boys are pretty aware of how Larries work. She got to hear a couple of more complaints about it.

More recently, in 2016, Gemma posted a picture of a graffiti on IG:

Even if in the graffiti both human forms have blue eyes, some Larries jumped in, claiming that it proved Larry. Again, everything is about them and Larry, even if it’s Gemma’s IG and she has, like, HER OWN LIFE.

Yes. See the green and blue hearts so characteristic of the larriedom, and Gemma’s reaction. Sadly, instead of backing off at her reply that the post had nothing to do with Larry, they went after her and called her ableist, just because she dared to deny Larry. One moment they love you, the next one they hate you.

There’s no winning with these people. All we can do is wonder when the next denial will come.

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Keith Tomlinson

Before you begin questioning if his account is real, it is. No, Louis does not follow him. However, other family members do, and he has posted never before seen pictures of Louis and himself.

I really don’t give a shit if you don’t consider him as Louis’ real grandfather anymore just because he was only his grandfather by marriage. Louis grew up with him. You don’t need to be related by blood to consider someone as family, that’s just fucking stupid.

Louis visits him often. He denies Larry. Get the fuck over it. Stop making excuses for it.

Remember, this post is of denials of Larry and confirmations of Elounor. Keith confirmed Eleanor with the very obvious, “Goodnight disbelievers” to all the Larries out there.

Go ahead, search it up to verify it’s real if you need to.

This next one is not a denial of Larry or a confirmation of Elounor, however, I thought I would add it in here to show the frustration with Larries.

Keith has absolutely no chill with Larries. (Personally, I think it was not necessary, but I think it’s just really frustrating to family and friend of especially Louis.)

Again, search it up on Twitter to verify it is real.

Keith literally has zero chill.

[Added: Feb, 2017.]

Keith passed away early 2016. He had a last quarrel with a Larrie who was spamming a tweet of Harry about a terrorist attack with “Larry is real:”

Keith wasn’t here for the disrespect and lack of boundaries. And neither should you.

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Lottie Tomlinson

It isn’t even funny anymore. I honestly don’t know why some Larries continue to harass Lottie.

There was so much drama in the fandom when this happened, oh my gosh. Eleanor also commented, but we are just focusing on Lottie.

Yes, I know this is not a direct denial of Larry. however, like I said before, they do not need to say, “Larry isn’t real” to portray the same message.

I think “SHUT UP YOU DELUDED F R E A K S” and “Sit down and shut up because you people do not know A THING” will suffice. Next.

This screenshot is from when Lottie accidentally favorited a gif of Harry and Louis with the caption, “boyfriends”.

Of course, all the Larries lost their shit and seemed to have completely forgotten about the time she called them deluded freaks.

Lottie quickly un-favorited it and tweeted that. She deleted the tweet minutes after she posted it. You can search up the tweet and see a bunch of quoted tweets on the same day and time to verify it was real.

No, this isn’t a denial. However, she did tell Larries to go away and she admitted it was a mistake.

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Fizzy Tomlinson

The first one I have is from when Fizzy did a Twitcam with her friend.

Fizzy did a twitcam in June of 2012. During it, she talks about Louis’ sexuality.

She says, “I don’t say it’s a bad thing to be gay. It’s just kind of rude to me because I know he’s not gay, and you’re all just like ‘No, your brother’s gay.’ Like, no he isn’t. Shut up.”

She then reads a comment that says, “Louis is clearly gay,” to which she replies, “He has a girlfriend!” (It is cut off).

You can watch it HERE.

Yes, I know. She only said he isn’t gay, and I can hear Larries say, “He doesn’t have to be gay for Larry to be real.” You are right.

However, Fizzy did confirm his relationship with Eleanor. I do know one can have a girlfriend, yet still be interested in men too. However, one cannot be in a relationship with his best friend and girlfriend at the same time.

Next.

I went through Fizzy’s Ask.FM. I did not scroll all the way to her very first answer because I found plenty before than. There are tons, and some of them (about Eleanor specifically) I did not add because it was not directly about Elounor or Larry.

Keep in mind. Fizzy gets tons of questions all the time. It’s her choice on which ones she wants to reply to. She clearly wanted to reply to this for a reason.

Let’s begin the long list of answers. They are not exactly in order.

The link was to the clip where Harry grabs Louis and kisses him on the cheek during an interview. Fizzy replied with, “Do you think if he was being serious he would do that in the middle of an interview?”

“Larry isn’t real but ship what you want,” THERE YOU GO LARRIES. THERE ARE THE THREE WORDS YOU ACTUALLY DON’T WANT TO HEAR.

This is something I always say when family members or friends deny Larry. It is ridiculous to say they are lying when they would just avoid answering at all.

“He doesn’t hate you, just your ship.”

“No, it isn’t.”

“Yes, Elounor is true love, and Larry is fake,” There you go, once again.

“You just see what you want to see,” HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I SAID THIS? YOU GO, FIZZY!

“If Larry was real, I would ship it but it’s not so I don’t haha"

Well, that was simple.

Simple answer.

There is most likely even more than just these. I only search back a little over a year and a half.

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Niall and Josh

During a Twitcam from over two years ago, Josh was reading comments on the Twitcam he was doing will Niall.

One comment talked about Zayn and Liam’s ship name, which is Ziam. Josh then realized what Larry was. Niall says, "Alright yeah,” with a very dead pan face. They then begin talking about something else. Niall reads a comment that asks if Larry is real. As soon as he reads the comment out loud, he shakes his head and flips his hand as if to show he is annoyed. Josh then says, “I’m pretty sure Larry isn’t real, guys,” while Niall laughs.

I find this funny. This was only a few months after the first bullshit tweets. Niall is clearly like, “Do they not get it…?"

Josh did not even know what "Larry Stylinson” was. Wow! It must be soOOooOOO real.

If you read the comment sections, it is full of Larries who say Niall could have flat out said no, but he didn’t. Honestly, his reaction was telling enough, but I understand where they are coming from.

The whole, “If Larry isn’t read, why haven’t they denied it,” thing, is a different story for a different post I have in the works.

Whether you think Niall’s reaction was a denial or not, Josh denies it too.

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Liam

I LIVE for Liam’s denials of Larry. Let’s begin.

The following picture is an old screenshot. In the current screenshot, it won’t show the tweet Liam replied to. I posted both so you could see what he replied to and see that the tweet is still there. You can still search for the tweet and find it.

The next picture is the current screenshot.

Next.

No, he didn’t deny Larry as a whole, but I don’t want to miss anything. So many people don’t even know most of these things in this post happened.

Next.

Yes, I know screenshots of DMs from either Instagram or Twitter can be faked. I almost never trust any DMs because they are faked quite often.

However, this one was real. The girl who Liam messaged back took a video of his DM and posted it on her Instagram. Her Instagram is now private, but I found someone else who took her video and posted it in their account.

If you are going to say videos like hers can be faked, please show me your receipts. I have NEVER found any. I have had many Larries act like know-it-all-shits and then go ghost when I ask for proof.

The DM is real. Next.

Once again, I would not trust this DM unless the girl had a video, which she did.

The link to the proof that the DM was real is HERE.

Let me explain what happened with this DM because many people were confused. This girl (@rtsophiam) was followed by Liam and Sophia. She had messaged Liam, asking if Larry was real or not. He unfollowed her. He then, being the kind hearted boy he is, re-followed her and messaged her that.

You can go check. She still has her Liam follow and she had it before the DM incident occurred.

Now, I know Larries were only say it was Modest. That will be their excuse for these DMs. Let me remind you of Liam’s tweets the same night this happened.

His tweets sound exactly like Liam. Go look up all of his tweets from October 2, 2014.

Also, notice his tweets about crazy DMs that are either fun, shocking, or strange? Hm. I wonder what DM he is referring to.

Lastly, during an interview, when asked to explain what Larry is, Liam said, “He’s imaginary.”

Again, do I need to write the definition of imaginary for you, Larries?

[Added: Feb, 2017.]

On his solo interview for Attitude Magazine (Sept 2015,) Liam had some words for the Larries, concerning Larry and Louis’ impending parenthood:

“People think of the Louis and Harry thing [that they’re secret lovers,] which is nuts and drives me insane.” The idea of Larry is, according to Liam, “nuts.” But he goes forward and call the Larries a “conspiracy” and a “cult,” telling that people make every gesture [of Louis and Harry] about them being together, and he knows “it’s not true” and it makes him “mad.” He knows “what’s what” [he understands the inner jokes and gestures] but has to hear “all these crazy theories.”

“I get tagged in drawings of Louis and Harry being together.” The 4th wall is broken. Well done, Larries. This is not fandom; this is not support. This is, as Liam says in his comparison, a conspiracy theory: “Imagine you’re the man who lands on the moon and you come back home to hear some people saying you didn’t.” Put yourself in these people’s shoes for once and imagine how it would be having people denying part or the whole of your existence. Liam stated Larry is not real and compared you, Larries, with conspiracists and cult people. He also stated that Louis was happy to become a dad, as he’s been for over a year now. When will you get the cue that your invasiveness is not welcomed?

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[Added: Feb, 2017.]

Zayn

In the interview he gave to the Fader in 2015, Zayn had the chance to talk about some of his experiences in One Direction. The conversation quickly moved to the fans’ culture.

Talking about shipping culture and fan theories Zayn stated:

“There’s no secret relationships going on with any of the band members.” This is a direct quote from Zayn, that established that Larry (or any of the other ships, even those not majorly tinhatted, like his own ship with Liam) is not real. But he goes further and says the fan theories had an effect in the way the boys behave in public: “It’s not funny, and it still continues to be quite hard for them. They won’t naturally go put their arm around each other because they’re conscious of this thing that’s going on, which is not even true. They won’t do that natural behavior.” It’s not the gay rumors that affected Larry’s public bond, but the constant harassment and invasiveness, the fact that there are tons of denials and people still spams every single post of the boys (and friends and family) with Larry’s claims. It’s the same Liam said for Attitude, it’s the constant watching and interpretation that exhausted them; in Zayn’s own words: “knowing that everything you do will be parsed for subtext is a terrible mindfuck.” Congratulation, Larries, you played yourselves and ruined Larry for the world.

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Louis

[Reorganized Aug 2017]

16/09/2012: Bullshit 1.0

Louis calls Larry’s theories conspiracies, and implies that the people involved in it aren’t lovely. He also addresses how those people give the fandom a bad name, thing that’s been proven to be a massive issue intra fandom and with media and GP’s perception of it and fannish behavior. He also refers to Larry as the “biggest load of bullshit.” The impact and following tantrum was so big that, to be able to cope Larries called the episode “bullshit 1.0,” because even if it should have ended that very day, they carried on, leaving room for even more denials left and right, and “bullshit 2.0.”

As I said, Larries got so defensive they ended up attacking Jay because, as always, she dared to speak up for her son and his girlfriend. Louis had to return and address the harassment again. His mother, people.

The issue ended that day with Louis making clear that HE DOESN’T CONSIDER LARRIES REAL FANS, and that any claim about anyone else but himself tweeting was inaccurate (sounds like he knew already the kind of theories he was dealing with):

Sept 2012: Chatty Man’s denial is reported in this article. The words quoted directly from Louis are consistent with everything Louis’ said on the matter to this day, that Larry makes things difficult for Harry and him, and that it’s disrespectful to his girlfriend.

“I just think it's really degrading towards her,” he explained, mentioning Eleanor again. What's most fascinating is that he admitted that he'd known about the pairing for a while, but that after a while it became more taxing than fun: “This is a subject that was funny at first but now is actually hard to deal with, as I am in relationship. Me and Harry are best friends. People look into our every move—it is actually affecting the way me and Harry are in public.”

Oct 2012: Louis calls Larry Stylinson “a conspiracy of fanfiction.” When Unreality TV asked about Larry rumors, Louis said:

There’s also a recorded interview with thehothits.com around the same period of time of Louis talking about the matter HERE. I leave you a transcription:

“I’m sure if you follow me on Twitter, you’ll know that every now and again I’m quite outspoken. I think it’s important to speak your mind, and I’ve had a few rants recently. You know, people who have been horrible to my girlfriend Eleanor and to my mum, and I just don’t think people should be able to get away with it. I don’t go to bed and worry about it, I just think that people if they want to be like that, should be put in their place.”

We know you’ve been working on it, sweetie, but these people are so self-absorbed and selfish they don’t listen to anyone but themselves.

Nov 2013: Louis called Larry “a fucking annoyance.” Talking about fan theories and conspiracy theories, Zayn and Louis went off:

Looks like someone was pretty tired. You can read the whole interview HERE.

Do I really need to look up the words conspiracy and fiction for Laries to get the point?

21/07/2017: Louis denies Larry in an interview with The Sun. You can watch the video HERE (starts at 00:31.)

After relating the phenomenon to conspiracy theories, Louis states that “obviously there’s there’s not truth to it” [Larry’s conspiracy theory] glancing directly into the camera (like Larries always dreamed about) around 01:05. If there’re still doubts about it, or you don’t want to watch it, here are the gifs made by @slowhandsmp3:

And again a transcription:

Dan Wootton: Can you tell me what your view is on these people who are obsessed by a “Larry” conspiracy?

LOUIS: I’ve never actually been asked about it directly. It’s a funny thing. People can believe what they want to believe. It comes across as a little bit disrespectful to the ones that I love, like Eleanor. It’s like anything, if you google a conspiracy on iPhones, you’re gonna get a conspiracy. It’s one of those things people love to buy into, but in reality, obviously there’s no truth to it, obviously.

The same day The Sun published an exclusive interview where Louis went deeper in the issue:

“Louis and Harry’s friendship was also dogged by a ridiculous five-year conspiracy by a group of determined fans known as Larries.

They believe that the pair are in a romantic relationship that was covered up by 1D management, SIMON COWELL and even me (I promise you I’d have been delighted to report that Harry and Louis were an item if that were the case).

Sadly, Louis admits the pressure from Larry conspiracy theorists was a factor in their friendship struggling, especially given the serious relationship he has with girlfriend Eleanor Calder.He says: “I’ve never actually been asked about it directly. It’s a funny thing.“

"It kind of happened naturally for me and Harry because a certain amount of the fans drew up this conspiracy.

"When it first came around I was with Eleanor, and it actually felt a little bit disrespectful to Eleanor, who is my girlfriend now.

“I’m so protective over things like that, about the people I love. So it created this atmosphere between the two of us where everyone was looking into everything we did.

“It took away the vibe you get off anyone. It made everything, I think on both fences, a little bit more unapproachable. I think it shows that it was never anything real, if I can use that word.”

Louis again refers to Larry’s fan theories as conspiracy theories, and blames the fans involved in these behaviors (again called disrespectful) for the public, notorious separation that happened between him and Harry. This is consistent with the things expressed by Louis throughout the years, and also Zayn, for instance, who claimed fans made impossible for Harry and Louis to be spontaneous and physical with each other while in public. So congratulations, Larries, yet another confirmation that you killed what you loved the most.

31/07/2017: Louis’ denial of Larry Stylinson in an interview with Andy Cohen. As the media picked up The Sun exclusive, Louis was asked again about it, now in USA soil. No more excuses, Larries. Louis want to shut down these theories once and for all.

You can listen to the actual audio with words coming out of Louis’ mouth HERE.

Transcription HERE, but here’s a caption:

Not fans. Not anything, but “these people.” That’s how Louis refers to the people that come up with conspiracies about him. It’s over, people. You are not Louis’ fans if you deny his real relationship and his son. He warned you in 2012. Nothing really new to it. Just more denial coming up from the Larries. As Harry would say, SAD.

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Harry

[Reorganized Aug 2017]

During an interview for 60 minutes Australia, the interviewer tells Harry, “Look, Harry. I’ve got to ask you about this one. This is Famous magazine. This says you and Louis are a couple. There’s pictures of you kissing!”

Liam, Niall, and Harry begin explaining that the pictures are photoshopped and that it has happened to all of the boys.

She then asks Harry, “Oh, really? So you and Louis, there is nothing going on?”

Harry replies with a simple, “NO.“ Yes, Larries, hold on. I’ve heard all of your excuses, and I will address them. But first see it for yourselves, I swear it doesn’t bite:

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Before you say, "Harry had to lean into to make sure they didn’t have actual pictures of them kissing,” let’s talk about the interview where they asked if Harry was having an affair with Obama.

Looks pretty similar to his reaction in the Australian interview, doesn’t it? So, is Harry fucking Obama too? Of course not. If you go up to anyone, claiming to have pictures of them kissing their best friend, they are going to look. It’s just a natural reaction. Keep making excuses.

Also related to this same interview, Larries spread the lie that there is a picture of Harry crying from right after this interview.

NO, THERE IS NOT.

The picture Larries spread around claiming to be of Harry crying are from a completely different interview where he has been sick for a few days. The exact same shot is at 9:13, and it is actually of Harry and Niall laughing. It is not a picture of Niall comforting Harry because he was crying. You can check it for yourselves HERE.

See how deceiving pictures (and Larries) can be?

Let’s move on. Larries don’t acknowledge this denial, and they thought they were lucky enough not to go through the same again due to Harry’s reluctance to talk about his personal life. It was a gift that kept giving until it stopped. It happened again.

In April 2016, a Venezuelan fan asked Harry is Larry was real while facetiming and he said “NO.” It was referred through Twitter by user @kingcasique_ and reported by media in at least this video:

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Sadly, these tweets happened between Victoria, the girl that chatted with Harry, and her friend [I can’t provide a link because the girl has been suspended on Twitter]:

These types of implications are NOT acceptable. NO means NO.

Troubles continued for Larries, because life’s a b*tch for them, since during the promo of his solo career (May/June of 2017,) in which Harry remarked again and again how honest his album was, he was asked if his solo song “Sweet Creature” was about Louis.

So Harry denied Larry again, stating that he would “lean toward NO” in the subject of the song being about Louis. Listen to his reply (starting to speak quite upset) at 00:10:

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Teen Vogue picked it up and you can read the article HERE. But here’s a transcription of the statement for everyone to acknowledge it.

“Lean toward NO” is as much as a categorical statement as a single NO. The word NO is right there. And you respect the word NO, because NO means NO.

Asked about the fan theory a second time in USA Today, Harry said “Oh, is that a thing?," completely snubbing the rumors. And went further: “Well, whatever it is that it makes one feel. But I think if you listen to the lyrics, you can work out what it’s about.” Oh, Harry, you unlucky bastard. You have a tendency to catch hay fever and Larries.

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Louis and Harry

[Added Feb 2017]

HERE is one of the first interviews in which Louis and Harry casually dismiss the rumors about Larry being a romance (the one of the “genuinely believe.”) There’s a politeness, a clear intention not to create drama with the denial, because at the time rumors were just starting to get fueled, but they still weren’t a proper conspiracy theory, as Louis would refer later when talking about Larry. It wasn’t the only time the issue was addressed in a relaxed manner, trying to shut down rumors, but with an intention not to alienate the fans. And here’s another:

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This is what the YouTube poster of the video wrote as a caption:

“I ship Larry, honest I think they are so cute and I would love them to be together... but if they say that its not true, that it is annoying them, going too far or that they are happy with their girlfriends then as fans we should respect that and let them live their lives. If they aren't gay then it will upset them and their girlfriends, and if they are then its obvious that they can't or don't want to talk about it so really either way shoving your opinions in their faces and their family and friends faces doesn't help. I'm not saying you don't have a right to think that or have an opinion, but sometimes you might want to think about who its affecting and respect what they are telling you, whether you believe it or not.”

Enough said.

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Alright. I think I have gotten most of the ones I could find.

I figured I would actually discuss them more in depth since I can kind of predict what Larries will say about it.

First of, yes I do realize people can lie. However, people do not go so far to call Larries vile, deluded freaks, fake fans, disbelievers, deranged, stupid, a lost cause, bitter, lonely, and fucking peasants. They would also not go so far to call the theory of Larry strange, ludicrous, bullshit, weird, as real as the tooth fairy, a fantasy, imaginary, fan fiction, rubbish, and a wasted obsession. (I personally do not believe everything said about Larries was necessarily appropriate, but it happened.)

Like I have said before, if they didn’t want to out Larry, there was no reason to lie. It can simple be avoided.

Second of all, if you believe their family and friends are under contract, go ahead and read these posts:

Larries’ Contract Theories I

Larries’ Contract Theories II

It is not only about Harry and Louis, but that Act protects their loved ones as well.

Also, like I said before, these are all people who have known Harry and Louis all their lives or are very good friends or are people they work with. These are not random people who claim to have met Louis and claim to have been told that he hates Larry or that Elounor is real.

I find it really doubtful that these people would not know the truth, and I think if you are telling yourself that, you need to really think about that.

[Added Aug 2017]

After reading all this, there’s no denial that the only constant in the seven-year-long 1D history has been these people denying the existence of a romantic relationship between Louis and Harry. And I’d dare to say that the only constant in the 1D fandom has been the abuse and harassment they have subjected these persons to because of it.

WORDS MATTER. RESPECT THESE PEOPLE’S WORDS. RESPECT THEIR TRUTH. STOP THE DISRESPECT AND THE ENTITLEMENT.

#larry #larry stylinson #larry denials #louis tomlinson #harry styles #original 1arry-isnt-rea1 masterpost #one direction #1d

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