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Takagin Discussion: Story Romantic Parallels (Part 2)

Continued, because image limit grrr. Part 1 here, take note of warnings there!

Takasugi and Enshou suffering from bystander's guilt. Both would have taken the chance to choose the death of the person their loved one loved more than them: Enshou did so and Takasugi is haunted by his thoughts of it. Even though this person was just as dear to them too (brother and teacher).

A layer of Takasugi that isn't present in Hijikata is his drive to destroy Gintoki and the world, despite loving the former. The cause? Look no further than Enshou who encapsulates post-Shouyou death Takasugi's emotions the best. Even being directly paralleled to Takasugi.

The dialogue in Shogun Assassination arc speaks for itself with how his anger was more about Gintoki and not Shouyou. Gintoki straight up calls Takasugi out for being the one who would have made the choice to kill Shouyou. And then there's Enshou who chose to leave his brother to die when he had found the chance to.

For Takasugi, it was out of an inability to live without someone, even if it meant taking away something precious to them, and the same was for Enshou except he also wanted the princess for himself. In fact, their direct parallels could even suggest that Takasugi would have wanted Shouyou to die so he could be the closest to Gintoki, which would really, really fuel his self-hatred and explain why it was strong enough for his actions. Then again, this is purely speculative, because the guilt from realizing you aren't who you think you are (wanting to protect Shouyou at all costs) is already great enough.

(I tell you, love is crazy. It wouldn't be surprising if Takasugi truly wanted to kill Shouyou despite everything. Enshou was even willing to kill his OWN blood brother who was proud of him. Obligatory Oboro mention who sees himself as a foil to Takasugi, and snitched on Shouyou out of jealousy and love for him too, despite knowing it will very likely not end well.)

Takasugi feeling like he murdered Shouyou is evident when Shouyou's death is one of the instances he recalls alongside his other cold-blooded murders when speaking of his sins.

Think about how much this realization that he would have killed Shouyou would hurt Takasugi's sense of identity. If the parallel with Hijikata holds true, that he intended to devote his life to protecting Shouyou to protect Gintoki's happiness from afar. And here he was suddenly thinking he would kill him if he had the chance, destroying Gintoki's happiness along with Shouyou.

These instances were times Enshou and Takasugi could pretend they weren't responsible, because it was the enemy that did it. But that's why it haunts them both - how could they be so horrible, selfish people? They ARE the enemies of their loved ones.

And further proof to that, is how Takasugi branded himself Gintoki's enemy that he should take revenge upon. Although his only outward action was being helpless just as much as Katsura, who doesn't harbour any violent will for his actions.

(Takasugi saw Gintoki as his enemy, as another him - as if because he couldn't think of it as Gintoki killing Shouyou. Gintoki would never choose Takasugi over Shouyou, he wouldn't make himself suffer and cry like that. It was all Takasugi who did it.)

It's also worth noting how Katsura talks about how he chose to change because of Gintoki's strength to face his pain and learn to live, even though he was supposed to be hurting the most out of all of them - and Takasugi completely ignores it. Just like Enshou running away from the pain the princess was enduring.

It's as if Katsura exists to show how someone who wasn't in love would have reacted to the events of the war and having an influence like Gintoki around, lol.

Takasugi and Enshou running away from their guilt by immersing themselves in a delusional goal and tormenting themselves.

Feeling guilt for who they really were, Enshou chose to throw himself into the battlefield and Takasugi could only think to ensue more chaos in hopes that something would come out of it. There was something they could still stand to achieve to compensate for their choices - Takasugi could overthrow the bakufu who betrayed all his comrades, Enshou could win more honour for his homeland. And if they failed, at least they would die in the process.

Takasugi shows awareness of this as he likens his cause to Matako shooting herself in the head.

For Enshou, he could make amends by looking for an honourable death as a hero to make up for his sins. For Takasugi, he could make amends by delusionally undoing the damage caused by the war and killing Gintoki who would try to stop him in the process, proving he can and would have killed Gintoki over Shouyou. And cause himself immeasurable pain in that process of killing and losing someone he loves, because he deserves it for betraying his teacher.

All so the princess would know Enshou as the hero who died and risked everything, which implies he had fought that hard too to protect her husband but failed. And as for Takasugi, it was all so Gintoki would never know that Takasugi would have killed Shouyou.

The only illusion Takasugi even has of Shouyou is one where he's expecting to be hit on the head for being half-hearted, instead of a fatherly moment. Takasugi knows everything he's doing is in the wrong, that he's just running away, but he doesn't have the courage to straighten himself up.

He wants Shouyou to stop him. He wants to be honest again.

But the princess and Gintoki both knew. Their words implying this don't register in either of the two though because of just how far gone they are in the delusion that their actions will protect them from being found out. To the point Takasugi immediately believes he would have had the same rationale as Gintoki and it meant he wasn't expelled (MY MAN SHOUYOU WOULDN'T EXPEL YOU FOR BEING IN LOVE AND WANTING TO GET RID OF HIM FOR IT EITHER!!! HE'S PROBABLY SUPER PROUD OF YOU!!! HE'D BE SAYING KILL ME IF YOU CAN!!!)

Another line of thinking that may have happened was that it FINALLY registered in him that it was Gintoki who beheaded Shouyou, not him. Especially because Gintoki says his full name like that, distinguishing them as people. It could be why he no longer says stuff about how they are the same person.

Being released from the guilt of his own selfishness by thinking he would have had the same reason as Gintoki, and being released from the guilt of thinking he was responsible for Shouyou's death, would have made it easier for Takasugi to move forward with less self-hatred and gain better clarity of what he truly wanted to do (hint: Gintoki's tears, as per the usual).

Their parallels truly goes to show that fighting to protect a country and fighting to destroy a country can both be running away... as long as your heart isn't in the present.

Takasugi and Umibouzu realizing that it is them and mundane life that are the true battlefield.

After losing Bansai, the very first member of Kiheitai, Takasugi finally realizes his rashness and blindness. The delusion he promised to his comrades was nowhere to be seen. When he loses someone who gave more meaning to that delusion than the delusion itself, Takasugi becomes more lost than ever. Only at this point does Takasugi realize he had always been dreaming, that this wasn't him.

If the delusion was really him, he wouldn't have been this lost from the death of the very first member - it would've just fuelled him to be see that goal through to be sure to honour his death. Especially when Bansai said they would die following him to his goals.

The reason he went this far in the first place - he always said his goals was as vengeance for Shouyou and the lives lost, but if losing someone proved it was all just a dream, then was that really what was driving him to stay alive? If he really was living in the past, he would have just killed himself after everything happened, but as he implies, it wouldn't satiate anything. (Sure, he may have been telling Gintoki to stab himself, but at this point he was seeing Gintoki as himself anyway so I think the interpretation of his dialogue is in the air)

The reason he was still running today wasn't for the dead. It was for one man who was still alive and in pain, who cried that day without anyone to wipe those tears for him.

These are the true emotions in his left eye that only become clearer after said man - Gintoki - even helps him justify his sins. The fact he's even wearing a kimono of mountains where Shouyou was executed really goes to show how affected and driven he was by that sight.

Takasugi had an idea of this after his clash with Gintoki and being reminded by Matako's tears. Not to mention Kiheitai being formed for and because of that same girl whose tears woke him up - as if paralleling Takasugi's entire driving force for one man too.

(EVEN THE MANGA FRAMING GINTOKI AND MATAKO CRYING IN THE SAME WAY. MATAKO BEING THE ONE TO BELIEVE IN AND LOOK FOR TAKASUGI AFTER HIS DEATH, LIKE GINTOKI LOOKING FOR SHOUYOU AFTER UTSURO'S DEATH... I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT ANY MATAKO PARALLELS AT THE START)

The cover for the chapter Matako cries is even Takasugi sitting on a mountain of corpses surrounded by crows, very much resembling Gintoki as a child. Even the very frame where Shouyou was describing him to Takasugi. And with an uncharacteristically satisfied victorious smile, which never appears on his face no matter how many enemies he cut down. And a line suggesting a battle for the clarity of heart. As if Matako's tears made him realize what his heart really wanted - to reach where Gintoki was all alone.

I talked about how much being alone in that battlefield of corpses had still been haunting the child in Gintoki in Part 1. And Takasugi knows. Because when a man is in love with a monster, he would want to know everything about the monster and wouldn't want them to suffer alone, like Umibouzu felt about Kouka.

But this only really kicked in after Bansai's death that destroyed all his delusions he could run off to.

After that realization, like Enshou, Takasugi had been planning to die, taking down the Tendoushuu along with him to put a close to the true culprits behind Gintoki's suffering. But after learning about Utsuro's blood, he still had to live to see it through to the end, for the sake of the teacher he wronged and because there was another thing he had to take care of for Gintoki to not have to suffer again. He never had any intentions of just being the human he realizes he was in his own exchange with Enshou lol.

Because he doesn't believe someone as violent as himself can without bloodshed and make anyone mundanely happy, just like Hijikata. AND his guilt at the forkroads for feeling like he would have killed Shouyou, that made it so that he could no longer fight by Gintoki's side when that was likely already his usual happiness.

(Matako's words even goes to show how much being by Gintoki's side is already an incomparable happiness for Takasugi, that she stops wanting to chase him and even enjoys seeing him like that. Not even jealous that Gintoki replaced Kiheitai - the man who seemed empty and aimless looked like he finally regained something.

She must have wanted to do something about Takasugi's suffering for a long time, and finally seeing it after so long is like a confusing breath of fresh air. It didn't have to be her, she just wanted to see him doing better. THIS IS WHY I LOVE KIHEITAI SO MUCH...)

Ahem. Then there's also Takasugi's guilt for Kiheitai's suffering that caused him to isolate himself from Matako and Henpeita. Imagine telling them he has no ambition in the first place, especially if it was all just for the tears of one guy, and they were all literally dying for no goal. He can't say that. Man. Takasugi's ENTIRE character is about running away.

That's why living a normal life IS the true battlefield. It's so painful and frightening that Takasugi can never face it. Even if he strongly wanted it, it was far better to avoid it.

This is something that Umibouzu comes to realize and acknowledge early on without being burdened by guilt and deluded like Enshou and Takasugi were. That no matter how many people you are surrounded by, there will be someone you will feel lonely without and can't live without. And the most difficult thing was to live a mundane life with them, against your instincts that are always craving for blood. Takasugi gets this - he's been constantly losing the battle of self-hatred against the human in him and thus stays as far as possible.

But Umibouzu faces the person he loves, while Takasugi keeps distancing himself from the person he loves like Hijikata did. It was probably easier for Umibouzu though since it was something he had to do - the person Takasugi and Hijikata love aren't alone for them to worry about. It's harder for Umibouzu to ignore someone who was suffering all alone, and there was no happiness in sight for her.

Gintoki and Kouka being invited to abandon their long-held principles for their own happiness.

These are just the actions of a man in love - Umibouzu and Takasugi, who can't afford to see the person they love suffer on their own. Principles and other people don't matter in their eyes - it's the happiness of their loved one that matters. That's why they both entice Kouka and Gintoki to make a choice that will make them happy against their principles. Even though leaving Kouan meant abandoning Kouka's ancestors, and saving Shouyou could mean destroying humanity.

Kouka takes Umibouzu up on his offer, while Gintoki decides that he can't pick a side and will be the one to stop Takasugi and Katsura if neither of their answers are correct. Although different, and one leads to her happiness and the other to continued detachment, their answers reflect how they know that the people in front of you is what is most important.

Just as Umibouzu himself confirms, he would have not changed his decision even knowing about Kouka's condition. And just like their last moment is Umibouzu attempting to rescue Kouka from her condition, Takasugi makes sure to remind Gintoki that he isn't empty and has people he has to go to, as if to save him from his emptiness. Both were always fighting the suffering of their loved ones to see them happy.

Takasugi and Umibouzu's left and right eye/arm

This. This is probably the biggest parallel made between Takasugi and a man in love, aside from Enshou. Their left represents the time they ran away from themselves, allowing their bloodthirsty instincts to take root. Their right represents the time they managed to do what they truly wanted to do against their bloodthirsty instincts. Even the chapters are titled Right Arm and Right Eye.

For Umibouzu, what he couldn't do was live a mundane life with his family. For Takasugi, what he couldn't do was make Gintoki happy. This is why their left represents their failures - Umibouzu nearly killing Kamui out of his Yato instincts, Takasugi having to see Gintoki forced to kill their teacher in tears and not trying to do anything about his pain because of his self-hatred.

You can argue Umibouzu's example is a familial one, but there's the difference that Umibouzu already faced the person he loved and had a family to protect while Takasugi never did. Umibouzu's love was in the form of protecting his wife and family, Takasugi's love was in the form of protecting Gintoki's happiness from afar. Their left thus represents failing to do so.

But just like Mitsuba and Hijikata, the ideal happiness both Gintoki and Takasugi wanted was definitely building that mundane life Umibouzu did. Takasugi telling Gintoki to go back to playing house as he deals with Shouyou instead shows how he knows that is true happiness, too. (I remember Takasugi having said playing house more derogatorily another time, but I can't find and remember where it wass... Screaming jealousy I wanted to be with you for sure.)

And then there's the cinematic parallels with Yorozuya, as if implying Takasugi's rightful place as Gintoki's equal who'd take care of Yorozuya together with him, and take care of Gintoki together with Yorozuya--Family.

(Edit: I just noticed that the words Gintoki says the first time Takasugi and Katsura meet him are the exact same words he says when he first meets Shinpachi - "Gyaa gyaa gyaa. Geez, shut up, is it mating season around here?" and steps into their fight. This pretty much confirms some level of equivalence with Takasugi and Yorozuya.)

Their shared desire for a mundane life is displayed even more strongly in their final moments - Gintoki laments how he had hoped things would change in his last moments, about how he thought they would have gotten past their fighting as they grew up. How he wished he could have shared drinks with him more.

But in typical Takasugi fashion, after a pause as if considering his answer, Takasugi runs away and insists their relationship stay a rivalry. Pathetic. But Takasugi probably wanted to see Gintoki smiling as usual instead of having to process the honest truth - not when Takasugi has spent all his life making it seem like he hated his guts, so it's understandable...

Gintoki just isn't the type to decide his own relationships, whether it be with Takasugi or literally anyone else. He only said he would protect Otose and Yorozuya, but then at some point they saw him as family and thus he reciprocated. All he does is protect unconditionally and stay pure as the white soul Katsura describes him as - and its his unconditional acceptance that brings everyone together. That was why Gintoki had always left it to Takasugi to decide what their relationship would be and was happy with whatever outcome. He accepted his relationship with Takasugi would always be one of fighting, even though he could tell from Takasugi's smile and laughter that there was more underneath his pursuit of strength...

Gintoki's regrets and wishes show now how the best outcome would have definitely been Takasugi not running away and determining their relationship as purely based on their rivalry. Takasugi's death reflects how much of a coward he was until the very end...

But in the end, Takasugi represents the humanity Gintoki couldn't achieve because he was brought up by a monster like himself. How humans get scared, stumble and struggle, but they will always get back up. They make their choices of what to face and what to not based on how they feel in the moment. In comparison, Gintoki erased every trace of himself, making no choices but to simply protect. Takasugi may have been fixated on destruction, but with time, he became aware of and faced what it truly meant to destroy.

Takasugi's sword and soul was the one that ended Utsuro once and for all, when long ago Shouyou told Gintoki to beat him with a human sword. A monster can only be destroyed by something stronger than it's emptiness, and Takasugi has been chasing after Gintoki's emptiness his whole life with his humanity.

That's why only Takasugi stood a chance against Utsuro's emptiness, having developed a humanity and love that grew stronger and stronger for the sake of matching the emptiness of the monster he loved.

Gintoki no longer needed to protect himself with the sword he held on so strongly to as a child. And there was no more need to forcefully suppress his fear and instincts to fulfil his purpose as he does now. Takasugi's blade was now there to protect the frightened child, and he's pretty much immortal now lmao.

The conclusion is as if hiding the commentary that Gintoki had never truly become human as Shouyou had told him to. That maybe becoming human was impossible for people born as monsters. But even so, the monster who tries to be human and live a normal life against its emptiness will find a home where they are loved. And that love will surely protect them.

Gintama is such peak fiction for me... I was crying writing this... Takasugi is truly my favourite character of all-time for how relatable and grounded he was as a character, as well as how he perfectly captured the battle against self-hatred. Of course it's personal interpretation - I always wonder if there was a way for dialogue to be straightforward so we could have a universal interpretation... But it might not hit as hard then!

I really like to think Gintama is all about being quiet about the emotions, but being loud about the laughter 😊 So we can decide what emotions there are in it based on our own personal experiences.

#gintama #takasugi shinsuke #shinsuke takasugi #gintoki sakata #sakata gintoki #takagin #gintaka #YUP I TALK ABOUT EVERYTHING I LOVE ABOUT TAKASUGI HERE #TAKASUGI BEST BOY #IM ALWAYS SO PROUD OF HIM

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sebfreak · 7 days

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Shinee + Psycho-Pass + Gintama + mournstera theme = I'm gonna follow you now.

:D haha I´m glad you like my very chaotic blog. And i hope you don´t mind when you´ll see other things f.e. f1 and so on. <3

But yeah psycho pass was one of the first anime i´ve ever watched. When i was a kid I did watch Pokemon, Inuyasha and so on but i never saw it as an anime. Only with Psycho Pass i specifically searched for anime. So this is why this story has a special place in my heart. <3 And also because I really love the concept. Btw ironically Shinee was the first group which brought me to kpop so... kinda funny how these two things are the same.

Gintama is a special anime/story for me because i did need three or four restarts until i found the love for it. But once you find it you can´t escape from it because gintama is so unique and yeah it has everything.

Also Takasugi for se win <3 XD (nah i love all characters in gintama, except the real shitty ones like sadasada and Enshou)

#lelair

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ciaossu-imagines · 4 months

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Hello there! For the mini event may you please do gintama with the au avatar the last airbender, thank you!

Hello there, my lovely anon! I definitely can do that - I really couldn't come up with solid ideas, so I admit to taking the lazy way out, so have a pretty comprehensive list on what type of Benders everyone would be in this AU! And guys, there are so many characters in Gintama so I swear it wasn't as easy and lazy as it looks! Thanks for sending in a request and I hope you'll enjoy!

Okay, so we're going into this AU with there being the four major bending types - Earth, Air, Fire and Water. Each bending type is as it is portrayed in Avatar: The Last Airbender, with people possessing different degrees of bending and different skills being present within each bending type.

So, when considering which type of Bender each character would be, I kind of broke it down into personality types and traits and qualities to look for, based on what I figure the 'stereotypical' Bender is for each of the four.

Earth Benders are a little rough around the edges, slow to anger, slow to decide on things, but stubborn once their mind is made up. They can be sensitive and they are often very patient.

Air Benders are gentle souls, respectful and adaptable, changeable. They're fast, both in their movements and in their thoughts.

Water Benders are typically calm and easy-going, flexible enough to adapt to their companions or situations. They're often quite easy to talk to and rather content with their lives.

Fire Benders are often prideful and confident individuals who are loyal, determined and ambitious. They can be very playful and fun but they often also have very short fuses on their tempers, which can be very volatile and explosive.

Keeping that in mind, this is what I figure the characters would be for Benders.

Earth Benders

Shimura Shinpachi

Shimura Tae

Shimura Ken

Chin Pirako/Doromizu Pirako

Kanemaru

Otose

Hanako

Saigou Tokumori

Saigou Teruhiko

Doromizu Jirochou

Hiraga Gengai

Hiraga Saburou

Haji

Terada Tatsugorou

Otaki

Jigsaw

Ofusa

Kirara

Urara

Rokkaku Kirie

Hongou Hisashi

Terakado Tsuu

Terakado Ichi

Hachibei Takaya/Takachin

Takatin

Rotten Maizou

Hijikata Toushirou

Sasaki Tetsunosuke

Kumanaku Seizou

Saitou Shimaru

Sasaki Isaburo

Oboro

Katsura Kotarou

Dragon Leader

Fat Dragon

Nakamura Kyoujirou

Shachi

Kameyama Duuke

Onijishi

Hijikata Tamegorou

Tsukuyo

Mutsu

Daraku

Abuto

Shijaku

Blu-Rayko

Prince Dai

Princess Bubbles

Otakai Sayaka

Water Benders

Sataka Gintoki

Kanemaru

Hasegawa Taizou

Hachirou

Tatsumi

Obi Hajime

Ketsuno Crystel

Ketsuno Seimei

Kuzunoha

Uchino

Hashida Kantarou

Hashida Kanschichirou

Hashida Kahei

Daigo

Kitaooji Daigorou

Izumi

Kawakami Bansai

Yamazaki Sagaru

Kamiyama

Harada Unosuke

16th Ikeda Yaemon

Hattori Zenzou

Wakikaoru

Momochi Rappa

Kurokono Tasuke

Takechi Henpeita

Kidomaru

Ebina

Seita

Suzuran

Hinowa

Kamenashi

Neptune Shokaku

Umibouzu

Shiramizu Pinko

Anigasaki Momo

Air Benders

Ikesawa

Tama

Oryou

Azumi Agonoske

Musashi

Kozenigata Heiji

Honjou Kyoushirou

Juurouta

Murata Tetsuko

Murata Tetsuya

Murata Jintetsu

Hedoro

Nishiki Ikumatsu

Hasegawa Hatsu

Hayashi Ryuuzan

Hayashi Fuyou

Sakurajima Chiharu

Okuni

Isao Kondou

Tokugawa Shige Shige

Tokugawa Soyo

Tokugawa Mori Mori

Tokugawa Sada Sada

Sarutobi Ayame

Elizabeth

Sakamoto Tatsuma

Yoshida Shouyou

Chougorou

Urashima

Oiwa

Rei

Enshou

Daishikyou

Mahha Noriko

Fumiko

Megami

Sorachi Hideaki

Fire Benders

Kagura

Kamui

Sakata Kintoki

Catherine

Ane

Kurogama Katsuo

Kujaku Hime Kada

Madame Yagami

Kanbei

Yagyuu Kyuubei

Yagyuu Binbokusai

Yagyuu Koshinori

Toujou Ayumu

Kitaooji Itsuki

Nishino Tsukamu

Minamito Sui

Shirino Douman

Gedoumaru

Antenmaru

Mone

Professor Meguro

No.305

No.502

Death Cancer

Ochi-san

Ben

Haga Kenji

Yocchan

Kimiko

Matsudaira Katakuriko

Matsudaira Kuriko

Hanano Saki

Goemon

Bichie

Sougo Okita

Hitotsubashi Nobu Nobu

Itou Kamotarou

Shinohara Shinnoshin

Imai Nobume

Ikeda Asaemon

18th Ikeda Yaemon

Utsuro

Jiraia

Banzou

Takasugi Shinsuke

Kajima Matako

Okada Nizou

Tendou Soutatsu

Mashiroi Kaguzou

Mashiroi Utsuzou

Inoue

Tasuke

Kuraba Touma

Eromes

Kurikan

Okita Mitsuba

Housen

Otohime

Admiral Abou

Ougai

Soutatsu

Kouka

Suitsu

Prince Hata

Jii

#replies #gintama #headcanons #avatar au

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lanlan-der · 2 years

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Juuzaengi ~Engetsu Sangokuden~ 1・2

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Illustrator: Teita (悌太)

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▍Characters and Cast

Protagonist

■ Kan'u (関羽)

Main characters

■ Ryuubi (劉備) - CV: Akira Ishida (石田彰)

■ Chouhi (張飛) - CV: Nobuhiko Okamoto (岡本信彦)

■ Chou'un (趙雲) - CV: Kenichi Suzumura (鈴村健一)

■ Sousou (曹操) - CV: Kosuke Toriumi (鳥海浩輔)

■ Kakouton (夏侯惇) - CV: Tatsuhisa Suzuki (鈴木達央)

■ Chouryou (張遼) - CV: Koji Yusa (遊佐浩二)

■ Shokatsuryou (諸葛亮) - CV: Takahiro Sakurai (櫻井孝宏)

■ Shuuyu (周瑜) - CV: Masakazu Morita (森田成一)

Side characters

■ Kakouen (夏侯淵) - CV: Daisuke Namikawa (浪川大輔)

■ Enshou (袁紹) - CV: Daisuke Hirakawa (平川大輔)

■ Bachou (馬超) - CV: Tomokazu Sugita (杉田智和)

■ Kaku (賈詡) - CV: Kazuya Ichijo (一条和矢)

■ Kakuka (郭嘉) - CV: Yuto Suzuki (鈴木裕斗)

■ Sonken (孫権) - CV: Yoshitsugu Matsuoka (松岡禎丞)

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averagelonelypotato · 6 months

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i feel like the the fight with Sugi, tatsuma and zura vs prince enshou is not talked about enough

#like that fight was crazy #i love it sm #like zura sugi and tatsuma looked good

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rosencrantzsguildenstern · 8 months

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gintama last act characters goat actually. i love gunpowder prince enshou he has no redeemable traits.

#chitra.txt #gintama #I SAY THAT POSITIVELY it works bc he still has DEPTH the depth just makes him worse lol #and ofc as a foil to takasugi hes good #even got that homoerotic rivals thing lololol

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forgloryforhonor · 2 years

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otae in gintama volumes

GUIDE

volume - lesson

vol 1 (gintoki) - 1, 2

vol 2 (shinpachi) - 7, 8

vol 3 (kagura) - 17

vol 4 (sadaharu/otae) - 27, 28

vol 5 (otose)- 36,37

vol 6 (katsura) - 45,48,49

vol 7 (kondou) - 50,53

vol 8 (hijikata) - 64

vol 9 (okita)- 74

vol 10 (hasegawa) - 77, 81,82

vol 11(sarutobi) - 86, 91,92

vol 12 (takasugi) - 98,103

vol 13 (hata) -110,111,112

vol 14 (kyuubei) - 113,118,119,120,121

vol 15 (zenzou) - 122,123,127

vol 16 (matsudaira) - 133,138,139

vol 17 (tama/gengai) -

vol 18 (hedoro) - 156, 157

vol 19 (bansai) -

vol 20 (umibozu) - 167*, 172, 174, 175

vol 21 (terakado tsu) - 176 to 182

vol 22 (toujo) -187

vol 23 (kanemaru) - 195, 196, 197. 198, 199, 200, 201

vol 24 (matako) - 203

vol 25 (tsukuyo) -

vol 26 (hosen) - 221*

vol 27 (shigeshige) - 229, 236

vol 28 (toshi) - 238, 246

vol 29 (white blood cell) -

vol 30 (jiraia) - **lessons on friendship and beauty**

vol 31 (diamond perfume) - 265.266,267, 268,273

vol 32 (ketsuno ana/gedomaru) - 276,280

vol 33 (shirino / ketsuno seimei) - 290,291

vol 34 (pirako) - 292,294,295

vol 35 (jirocho) - 301 to 309

vol 36 (zanggetsu, mother, yorouzya) - 314

vol 37 (warts arc yrzy) - 322,323,324,

vol 38 (factory group) - 331,334

vol 39 (scandal arc group) - 335 to 339

vol 40 (love chorris group) - 344 to 347

vol 41 (renho) -

vol 42 (nobume/isaburo) - 362

vol 43 (kintama) - 372 to 380

vol 44 (soyo) - 382. 383

vol 45 (oboro) -

vol 46 (obi hajime) - 403 to 409

vol 47 (gintoki and mangaka)

vol 48 (tetsuko) -

vol 49 (ikumatsu) - 434,436

vol 50 (ginko) - 438,439,440,441,443,445

vol 51 (terakado tsu/kagura) - 446,447,448,449,455

vol 52 (asaemon) - 457,458,459,460,461

vol 53 (soul switch) - 474, 475, 476

vol 54 (sakamoto) - 477, 481. 485, 486

vol 55 (saitou) - 493

vol 56 (kamui) - 500

vol 57 (abuto) -

vol 58 (shoyo) - **lessons on bushido**

vol 59 (young!okita/kondou/hijikata) - 527,528,529.531

vol 60 (utsuro) -

vol 61 (present!okita/kondou/hijikata) - 546, 550

vol 62 (mutsu) - 559*

vol 63 (pakuyasa) -

vol 64 (kouka) -

vol 65 (kagura family) -

vol 66 (shouka shinjuku) - 597,598

vol 67 (enshou) - 601,603

vol 68 (shijaku, hata, dragonia) - 608,609, 611, 615,616,617

vol 69 (jirocho,otose,tatsugoro) - 620 to 627

vol 70 (gintoki/hedoro) - 628,

vol 71 (young!kiheitai) - 638

vol 72 (sadaharu, mone, ane) - 649,665

vol 73 (utsuro) - 665

vol 74 (shinpachi) - 666,667,669

vol 75 (kagura) - 683,684

vol 76 (gintoki) - 686, 690

vol 77 (gintama) - 697,698,699,700,701,702,703,704

* - vol 20, vol 26 and vol 62: otae is mentioned / remembered

** - voll 30 and vol 58: otae’s early words are repeated

for those who would need this stuff lol

only 12 out of 77 volumes have completely zero otae.

#tae shimura #shimura tae #otae notes #will be revised as needed #i told ya im gonna go broke

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babygray · 10 months

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Just saw a YouTube short about some of Gintama’s villains and whether they were "broken" or "pure evil". Three and a half of them were labeled "pure evil", but I feel that’s a bit wrong.

In the video maker's opinion,

"Broken":

Takasugi Shinsuke

Kamui

Oboro

Itou Kamotarou

Sasaki Isaburou

Doromizu Jirocho

Kintoki

Enmi! Gintoki (interesting choice there, including him)

Obi Hajime

Enshou

Tokugawa Nobu Nobu

"Pure Evil":

Housen

Jiraia

Tokugawa Sada Sada

50/50:

Utsuro

In my opinion, only one of these guys, Sada Sada, is "pure evil". Maybe Housen as well, but the argument can be made that he is more "broken" than "pure evil".

Also, what kind of nonsense is "50/50"? Utsuro is just as broken as the rest of them.

#gintama #wanted to make a poll #but there's too many characters for just one and i quickly lost interest.

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kamaitachi-hime666 · 3 months

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#his eyebrows are crazyyyyyy #Gintama #gtm: enshou #gtm > icons #kamaitachi-hime666

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the-anime-haven · 3 years

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Gintama Stills for Every (Canon) Episode → [353/316] “Bushido Is Found One Second Before Death”

↳ “I don't know if they're worthy of being tasked with saving the world, but there are some guys who are even more persistent than us... There's a guy who won't sit back and watch the world be destroyed. That's for sure.”

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joelletwo · 2 months

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[just scanning thru]

bwuh???? i was too annoyed by enshou and nobunobu to really take in this scene while i was reading. but gwuh. also i think hes lying thru his teeth. hes telling the truth [espousing a true thing about takasugi the char under the principles of Gintama] but none of its true [a thing that takasugi himself believes. probably.]. until the last panel that ones true he lives shamelessly bc he only knows shame.

#sopping wet gintoki posting #babygirl STOP getting into seppuku position just instinctually. STOP.#all i remember about this scene is takasugi dying on his feet. another instance of running out his battery and having to #recharge on the floor for a couple chapters b4 he can do anything else. like i dont think he shows up on panel again #after this kjshfg until hes doing his stuff later

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sankatsuka · 3 months

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Bansai Kawakami and Kiheitai Discussion - The Humanity that Drives Kiheitai

After watching Gintama till the end, my favourite faction in Gintama is undoubtedly Kiheitai. The Liberation Army arc was my most favourite arc in the entire series - it had a really interesting commentary on characters impacted by the loss of their home and loved ones.

What stood out to me the most was Bansai's gradual realizations as he lived nihilistically down Takasugi's path of destruction. How Bansai has actually always carried the spirit of a Samurai who wanted to protect his country - his home. So he is the one able to open Takasugi's eyes to the present, to the fact that Kiheitai had become akin to a home to all of them who are just nobodies who have lost everything.

Warnings: I bring on some talking points from my previous discussion about Takasugi's character. My interpretation of Takasugi's character is heavy on Takagin. (read here)

The end of the Shinsengumi Crisis arc shows how Bansai is the most open about learning about other beliefs outside Takasugi's. This distinguishes him from the other members of Kiheitai we've seen so far, who seem to blindly be following him as they've lost all purpose. This hints that Bansai hasn't lost his purpose, and it's related to protecting people, with how much present-day Edo drew him in.

We are given confirmation during Kiheitai's formation that Bansai has always been living with that desire to protect the people of his country. He ends up joining Takasugi because there was no other way forward, but seeing Takasugi's charisma probably reinforced his belief that he would be able to protect this country. This is why Bansai isn't blindly devoted to Takasugi, and is able to see with his eyes that present-day Edo never needed to be protected. That it Kiheitai themselves who couldn't face the present.

He acknowledges that Kiheitai were the blind ones, blind to the people and themselves. This makes what Kiheitai truly is clearer to him: they were just a bunch of people who lost everything and wanted someone strong to exact their vengeance while carrying the weight of their anger. And Takasugi is a lost hero who strayed from his path away from the Joui 4 because he was too weak to face the present like them (I do think that Takasugi is most burdened by his guilt of choosing Gintoki over their teacher they fought for and cherished, like Enshou leaving his brother to die to be with his now-wife. But I don't think Bansai knew about this and thought Takasugi couldn't get over his anger of the lives lost only for his teacher to only die in vain. Like how nobody knows what Enshou had done to his brother to the very bitter end too...)

Having taken such lessons from present-day Edo and knowing what Kiheitai really is, Bansai's path became clearer to him. He has to be the comrade who spurs Takasugi to the right path, to rise and become the hero he really is, the one who moves forward because of the present living and not the dead from the past.

Bansai was no longer fighting to protect Kiheitai's ambitions of overthrowing the government, he would die fighting protecting the spirit of Kiheitai. Which he does by telling Takasugi he has to keep going because Kiheitai is always chasing him, not for their goal of overthrowing the country.

It's thanks to this and Kiheitai demonstrating Bansai's final words that Takasugi wakes up. He isn't a hero fighting to protect the country, he was just an ordinary person who has to live for his present - the Kiheitai who has always been chasing after him, not to achieve their ambitions that just proved pointless at the end.

The reason Bansai is the one capable of seeing Kiheitai for what it really is is probably because of what Takasugi saw in him when they met. Takasugi only chose to recruit Bansai at the start, whereas he showed disappointment in Henpeita's half-heartedness and straight up turned Matako away. Both of the latter two had given up on fully living as themselves, and Takasugi encouraged them to find their proper answers instead of relying on him and didn't deem them as strong enough to follow down his road with such fragile resolve--But Bansai didn't give up.

Bansai was still chasing after his desire to protect the country and it's people until the very end. He didn't have the eyes of someone who gave up and wanted to end things in the best way possible like Henpeita. Bansai was doing everything he can to protect as many as he could (Matako and the imprisoned Joui rebels, probably even placing a bet that Takasugi could bring about a miracle in the prison).

That's probably why Bansai didn't close his eyes entirely to the present-day Edo and the ideals they all live by. He's still chasing after the country he wants to protect, and there was no absolutely certainty Takasugi's methods were the answer. In the end, he finds his answer in the heroes that are powered not by the dead, but by the people who follow them (Joui 4). And he is capable of seeing that heroic spirit that should be in Takasugi, and how his sights should be on the Kiheitai that is chasing after him, and not the dead of the past.

For such a strong-headed guy who wanted to protect his country so strongly, Takasugi couldn't let Bansai's life go to waste to a country that forsake his efforts. Not when Takasugi knows the pain of trampling over corpses, and the country they were willing to put down their lives for wouldn't even carry that burden alongside them. Even if Takasugi himself didn't know where he was going, he was willing to put his trust in a miracle somewhere along the way - as long as he could protect these people.

For these people who were willing to put their lives down in the name of justice in a country that didn't even care about them, Takasugi refused to let them lose their precious lives that way. He spares Henpeita because of this, but also decides against recruiting him because he wouldn't drag down someone who still had a chance at living a normal life. Bansai was already at the stage of idiocy where he couldn't be saved anymore, so instead of leaving him to die for that meaningless cause, Takasugi recruits him. Because he was planning to fight till the very end for a miracle, and that was a better cause than the country for people who were willing to throw their lives away. Even if it was just blind confidence.

And because of this, Henpeita reaches out to Takasugi again, that the miracle he wants to bet on to keep living was Takasugi himself, instead of a normal life. Matako also proves that the same miracle she would bet her life on at a young age was Takasugi by joining them on the battlefield.

This was the Kiheitai Takasugi intended - a place that only had idiots and nobodies who would die for their justice, and he wouldn't let their deaths be wasted on the country that wouldn't honour their spirit.

(Because Takasugi detests himself for having forsaken his comrades' deaths, because he would have forsaken their wishes to save Shouyou for his own wish of being with Gintoki. So he takes it up on himself to make amends even as a dead person walking. I'm sorry I have to include so much Takagin, I have to emphasize why Takasugi cares so much about honouring people's lives.)

For that Takasugi, Bansai tells him that Kiheitai are always right behind him. Even if he's lost everything, as long as those eyes have something they are headed towards, Kiheitai will follow suit. Because they chose to follow Takasugi, and at some point found a home in each other. So they would fight to protect that home, instead of the country that they knew they've already lost their place in but still foolishly have the heart to want to protect.

So their deaths would never be wasted. Of course, he's free to make amends by sacrificing himself, but that's only at the very end after he's achieved whatever he was seeking.

But ultimately, it would've been better if they could all live normally in this home they found. As Bansai fights to the very end, he remembers that he and Henpeita resolved to die for the sake of a hero who could change the country. But now he's fighting for the sake of going back to the peaceful times where they can finally start facing each Takasugi for who he really is: their friend.

Because Bansai knows now, what spurred them on wasn't their ambitions to make a miracle to happen - it was the place they all found in Kiheitai.

(Also, I love how Bansai and Shinpachi have such strong parallels. Their shared connection with Otsu, Gintoki and Takasugi saving the other, Bansai protecting Shinpachi. It feels like the two of them share a strong love for the home that raised them, and Shinpachi may have ended up like Bansai had he been older and lost everything.

I wish I could've seen them spending more time together, Shinpachi may have been able to wake Bansai up to face the present before it was too late as it is in canon...)

#gintama #bansai kawakami #kawakami bansai #kiheitai #shinsuke takasugi #takasugi shinsuke #takagin

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