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What is your favorite Supernatural episode that you can rewatch multiple times?
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ottosump · 1 year
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Supernatural season 2 episode 1.
In my time of dying.
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So we ended up in the season 1 finale with the car crash.
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The Winchesters end up in hospital with Dean in a coma, about to die.
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Now this episode may not be the most exciting but it sets up the whole season about Sam with his special powers.
While Dean has a reaper luring his soul to beyond, both Sam and John look for ways to bring back Dean from the edge of death.
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Sam communicates with Dean....
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John makes a deal with the yellow eyed demon.
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As Dean comes out of the coma, totally healed, John whispers a secret that echoes through the season.
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Season 1, Episode 18: Something Wicked This Way Comes
Dean gets a second chance to right a wrong from his past when the brothers get a mysterious tip from their father about a case they'd worked years ago, but left unfinished after Sam was nearly killed by the creature. (Directly from IMDB)
Director: Whitney Ransick
Writers: Eric Kripke, Daniel Knauf, Sera Gamble
Set in: Fitchburg, Wisconsin 
Gotta say, Dean’s right on this one: “Because I’m the oldest which mean’s I’m always right.”
I feel like if I were them, I would contact the actual CDC cause this involves children who are sick??
This is the creature that got Sam, isn’t it
This first season is so well written- not too horror-y, plenty of twists
This guy is totally draining the life of the kids.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the dynamic of their characters shifts throughout the seasons: Sam’s absolute refusal to put any kids or people in danger shifts onto Dean after hell and Ben, and so does his reluctance to hunt and such. Dean’s guilt NEVER goes away though. 
John Winchester is an asshole
Protective Dean Winchester!
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William Butcher just took the lead in competition for "Shitiest Kripke written dad." From John Winchester.
Correct me if I am wrong, but John never said Sam he was responsible for Marys death.
So, yea, congrats, Billy. You're an asshole.
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dan2theyell · 1 year
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Supernatural: How it is More Than a Show
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rotzaprachim · 1 year
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andornatural is like. i just wanna take eric kripke's stupid american exceptionalism stupid machismo show and make it about the very special fucked up ness of an immigrant mother and her immigrant son.  recasting teh john figure as a female irish immigrant in the 1960's and the dean figure as a modern male mexican immigrant well that’s just going over the entire thing with a red crayon.  the whole hunters as diaspora metaphor. your house is burning and it’s always burning. and like the subliminal rage maarva has towards cassian essentially having the same job she once did so she takes it out on him as being some kind of dissapointemnt. that's REAL immigrant family dynamics. real diaspora vibes. the idea of her being angry with him for not achieving the American dream but also he can't because that doesn't exist but also he can't because they're hunters they gotta be On the Road or else people will die it's not a culture you can leave it's not a path you can walk away from they have no choice but to keep following the hunt. also supernatural did one (1) thing better than andor and that’s having a love/hate honor and shame profoundly fucked up relationship with a parent who took you on the road. let maarva have a john esque absent god role in cassian’s story 
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godstielcult · 1 year
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How Childhood Abuse and Trauma Affected Dean Winchester in Adulthood in Supernatural
Supernatural was a television series that spanned fifteen years from 2005 to 2020 created by Eric Kripke that premiered on The WB, now known as The CW (“Supernatural”). Kripke took inspiration from his own life by making family the prime aspect of Supernatural since family was a central part in his upbringing while also incorporating elements of classic Americana from Jack Kerouac’s On the Road and Neil Gaiman’s American Gods and supernatural lore (Rome). The show, Supernatural, followed the brothers Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean Winchester (Jensen Ackles) as they continued in their father’s footsteps hunting monsters, creatures, deities, and a multitude of other things that went bump in the night while also attempting to stop the next apocalypse. On top of diving into lore from diverse cultures, religions, and the occult, Supernatural at its heart focused on familial bonds and dynamics. When looking at the central characters of the show, it is evident that Dean Winchester struggles with copious amounts of trauma from his childhood and adolescent years that he still carries onto well into his adulthood (“Supernatural”).
Early Childhood
The first episode of the series is where most of Dean’s trauma stems from. In the flashback from “Pilot,” Dean is around four years old while Sam is six months old. In the flashback, their parents, John and Mary Winchester, put them both down for the night before they themselves head to bed after Dean says goodnight to his little brother. They both part ways with Mary sleeping in what is their bedroom and John sleeping in the easy chair downstairs, which signifies their already strained and far from perfect marriage that Dean mentions in “Dark Side of the Moon.,” before Mary stirs out from her slumber, hearing Sam’s cries from the baby monitor. When she goes to check on him, she notices a tall figure in the room that she assumes is her husband before heading downstairs to turn off the television that is still on. There she finds John fast asleep in the easy chair. After the realization that there is a stranger in Sam’s room, Mary races to the nursery where she is murdered and set aflame by the yellow eyed demon after John enters the nursery from hearing his wife’s screams. After the fire breaks out, John hands Dean his brother and tells him to get out of the house while he attempts to save Mary before leaving the house himself and joining his children as they watch their old life fade away into the flames of the fire.
The death of his mother to Dean is the first traumatic event he vividly experiences. Her death is not only traumatic to him by the close relationship they had, but also with it shattering the sense of safety, security, and love he had felt and experienced before that night. This event is the result of other traumas in his life, such as forcing him to grow up quickly to become a caregiver to his brother, exposing him the harsh realities of poverty, and having to emotionally support his father through his trauma of losing his wife and the horrors that came with the new life John thrusted them into. This event results in Dean experiencing parentification, abuse and neglect, and mental illness.
Parentification is the result of forcing children to take on adult roles that they are not well suited to handle. Children can become parentified if one of their parents were neglected or abused, they abuse different substances, or a traumatic event has happened. There are two types of parentification: instrumental and emotional. Instrumental parentification happens when a child is instructed to do certain tasks, which are not age appropriate for them, by their parent. This includes and is not limited to taking care of younger siblings and providing for the family in some way. Emotional parentification happens when the parent of the child expects them to fulfill their emotional needs. Examples of this behavior can be parents ranting about their marital problems to their children. This form of abuse is constant throughout the entirety of Dean’s childhood (Lewis). 
In Supernatural, Dean experienced parentification constantly during his upbringing, even before Mary’s death and John throwing them into the hunting life. The first time the audience sees Dean subject to this is in “Dark Side of the Moon.” After John calls Mary, during the time he moved out for a few days after one of their previous spats, Dean comforts and tends to the emotional needs of his mother after seeing the look on her face after hanging up the phone (“Dark Side of the Moon”). This scene singlehandedly shows the parentification of Dean with him comforting his mother, when she most needed it, after the conversation she had with her husband due to him emotionally tearing her down rather than fulfilling her emotionally. Dean, his son, had to take that place to clean up his mess and provide his mother with the emotional fulfillment she needed (Lewis). Parentification is displayed throughout the episode “Something Wicked.” In “Something Wicked,” Sam and Dean investigate an old case their father had left behind for them, that brings back painful memories from when Dean was a child. When John was hunting the shtriga, a type of witch, Dean was left alone to look after his little brother to make sure nothing would harm him while John was out. This included Dean being responsible for a sawed-off shotgun in case something would attack Sam while his father was gone when he was around eight years old. Being the typical kid, he eventually became bored of just hanging around in the dingy motel room they were staying at and decided to stretch his legs and grab a soda before returning to the room where he finds his father killing the witch before yelling at him and blaming him for not being there to protect his brother when he was only a kid (“Something Wicked”). Despite him being just a child when this occurred, John blames and continues to blame him for this for years for not being there to take care of his brother when it is not his responsibility to be taking care of and parenting a child when he is only a child himself. This brings to light that Dean never really had a childhood or was a kid when he was growing up with having to be there to take care of his brother at a small age as well as both of his parents, which John mentions in the episode “In My Time of Dying.” John states that on the first hunts he went on, he would come back a mess from what he had seen on his most recent hunt. However, Dean was the one that was always there to comfort him and emotionally fulfill him, which gets into more of the emotional parentification from his father that Dean experienced as a small child (“In My Time of Dying”). Through the use of parentification in the show, it is clear that Sam and Dean were neglected as young children.
 In the episode “Dead in the Water,” Sam and Dean investigate a series of unnatural drownings from Lake Manitoc in Wisconsin. While investigating what could be the cause of all the drownings, they pose as wildlife officers and ask the sheriff and several other people about what has happened in the town to cause something of this destruction. When asking the sheriff peculiar questions about the drownings, they meet the sheriff’s daughter and grandson. Upon getting acquainted with the two, they find out Andrea’s husband was one of the victims and her mute son Lucas was the one that saw what happened to his father and communicates to others using drawings. By the end of the episode, the brothers find out Andrea’s father and one of the drowned victims kept a secret from them about a boy they knew and had inevitably drowned from their involvement, which resulted in the young boy becoming a vengeful spirit to right wrongs of the past and make them feel what his mother had to go through emotionally with his death. In this episode, Dean opens up about the night his mother died to Lucas to give him someone who understood what he was feeling and thinking that he himself was not granted when his mother passed. Also in this episode, the audience finds out that much like Lucas, Dean also had trouble communicating after the death of his mother, which John documents in his hunting journal. (“Dead in the Water”) Dean’s mutism after the death of his mother could be a result of trying to repress the memory and avoid reliving that night.
Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis and talk therapy, is credited with his proposed theory of defense mechanisms. Most of his work is discredited by most psychologists except for defense mechanisms and his three stems of the mind known as the id, ego, and superego, which psychologists that take a psychodynamic approach in their field accept without believing in Freud’s motivational drive caused by aggression and sex. The defense mechanisms include repression, regression, reaction formation, projection, rationalization, displacement, sublimation, and denial. Regression refers retreating to a former stage of development, according to Freud this would be regression of the psychosexual stages (Meyers 557-563). This perspective shifts as the Neo-Freudians believe in different motivational drives compared to Freud’s sexual and aggressive based one. According to Karen Horney, the motivational drive is people’s desires for love and security. Looking at her perspective when looking at the defense mechanisms as a whole can be the result of wanting to be perceived favorably to obtain that love and security (Meyers 565-566). In Supernatural, regression occurs in the episode “Dead in the Water” as a result of Dean regressing in his development by becoming mute after the death of his mother to avoid as much anxiety surrounding the and to avoid becoming a burden to his father by having to take care of his emotional needs. Repression also ties into this with Dean avoiding and repressing what happened to his mother by not talking about it with not having the luxury to talk about this major change in his life due to him having to fulfill those needs for his father (Meyers 557-563).
In the episode “A Very Supernatural Christmas,” Sam and Dean investigate a series of murders that involve people being dragged through the chimney with hardly a trace left behind. In the season this episode is in, Dean sells his soul to save his brother’s life. This causes him to want to celebrate one last Christmas before his soul is dragged all the way to Hell by the hellhounds. Throughout this episode, flashbacks of Sam and Dean celebrating Christmas when they were children occur and contradict the Norman Rockwell Christmas Dean dreams of having as a last hurrah. Due to John’s neglect, both Sam and Dean were never granted the commercialized Christmas, but made do on their own (“A Very Supernatural Christmas”). This is also due to Sam and dean living in poverty. Evidence has proven that poverty is related to child abuse and neglect. The effects of poverty can also be transferred to children in that situation due to it affecting their parents and caretakers. Fathers in families affected by poverty tend to be less emotionally involved in their children’s lives, which can have a drastic effect to be much worse with the greater persistence of poverty (Leverich 72-74) This affects Dean and his brother with their father being more emotionally distant and physically distant from them. This also affects them with not being provided with adequate living conditions with living in ran down motels and the backseat of their father’s car when heading to the next hunt. Their living conditions have also lacked with them being able to access nutritional food and also hardly any food at some times.
Childhood trauma is the result of experiencing either different forms of abuse or living through a traumatic event. Exposure to such things can constitute in the child’s developmental level being affected and cause them to experience problems. Such problems this can cause is post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) (Loggings). PTSD is an anxiety disorder that is triggered by traumatic events reoccurrence in the mind, which can cause people to have nightmares, be socially withdrawn, jumpy, anxious, feel numb, or have insomnia that is recurrent for four weeks or more after the inciting event to the trauma (Meyers 664).
In Supernatural, Dean experiences the loss of his mother due to mysterious causes and circumstances in the episode “Pilot,” but his response to her death and how it affected him is not brought up until “Dead in the Water.” Dean’s response to her passing away was to close himself off from everyone he knew by not communicating in any way with others, including his brother and his father. This lack of social interaction that was unusual compared to before her death signifies a disturbance that causes daily functioning to be more difficult for him. The disturbance of behavior in his daily life then, displays a psychological disorder from the interruption it causes him in his life to experience (Meyers 651). Dean most likely experiences PTSD due to the event and things surrounding it making him irritable and jumpy as seen in “Home.” In “Home,” Sam and Dean visit the place where they grew up and the place where they lost their mother because Sam had a vision in which another woman died in what used to be their home. Dean is reluctant to go back with the events that took place the last time they were there, and he tries to avoid anything he possibly could relating to his mother and the house while still trying to help the woman that could be doomed to face the same fate his mother had. When around the house and when taking about his mother, he is jumpy and wants to move on from the subject and leave the place as soon as he can. This makes it more likely that he has PTSD rather than another anxiety disorder because his trigger is specific and rather than general like most anxiety disorders.
Adolescence
The inadequacy Dean feels from his father’s abuse in his early childhood builds in this stage of his life. In Beyond Bruises: The Truth about Teens and Abuse, children that experience abuse begin to believe the remarks they hear from their parental figures and soon come to feel like they are inadequate. Due to this, children begin to see themselves as their abuser sees them instead of understanding what they are like and how they feel themselves. When this happens children may make up a false persona to distract from what happened to them and to get some fulfillment that they are not receiving at home (Gordon 63). In the episode “After School Special,” Sam and Dean return to Truman High School, one of the many schools mentioned in flashbacks throughout the series with their nomadic lifestyle surrounded by hunting, to work a case after a student drowns another student and claims she was possessed and did not have control over her body when the drowning occurred. The brothers go undercover as school employees to discover the ghost of Sam’s bully at the school has been terrorizing the school. Business as usual, they purify and burn the remains for the spirit to pass on. During the flashbacks from this episode, Dean in his time at that high school portrayed himself as a womanizer and has his fair share of girls while he attends that school, and is even called out by one of the girls he wronged about who he actually is rather that who he portrays himself to be (“After School Special”). This “bad boy” and “Devil may care” attitude of his continues to be present well into his adult years to cover up what he feels and hide his vulnerability from the people he cares about. Due to the nomadic lifestyle Dean and his family lived, the emphasis of school from a parent was not set in place and caused him to not even try, knowing that he would be gone in a couple of weeks or months. Along with the lack of emphasis in education, he was more likely to be concerned about Sam’s wellbeing since he was the one taking care of his needs most of the time when John was preoccupied with a hunt and in general (Gordon 63). 
In the episode “Bad Boys,” Dean received a call from an old friend, Sonny, who helped him out during a tough time when he was a teenager. Sonny calls Dean looking for someone to help with his current situation when one of his workers at the boys’ home was mysteriously murdered by a piece of machinery that had not worked in years. When Dean returns to the place he stayed at and called his home for a few months, he begins to remember his time there and how he got there in the first place when he was picked up for shoplifting a loaf of bread and peanut butter at the market. Due to the abuse in Dean’s early childhood, he was more prone to shop lifting and committing a crime later in his juvenile years from the likelihood of children that have experienced abuse committing a crime increasing by fifty-nine percent (Gordon 71). 
Adulthood
The trauma and abuse that Dean Winchester experienced in his childhood affected the relationships he formed as an adult, his self-image, and his mental health. Throughout the series Dean is often clingy to those around him, especially his father and brother, from wanting to seek the validation and acceptance he was hardly ever granted as a child and was instead given the opposite from his father. This is also due to Sam and John being the most consistent things in his life because of their nomadic lifestyle and them being the closest representations of a home that he had growing up and into most of his adulthood. When his father, John, would fulfill his emotional needs, it would be to work for his own personal gain while he was off seeking to avenge his wife’s death, but berating Dean the second he made the smallest mistake or attempted to be a kid. The back-and-forth relationship John had with his son caused Dean to not feel secure in any of his romantic or familial relationships from thinking that everyone would eventually leave him once they realized he was damaged goods. This resulted Dean to grow more colder and attempt to push people away from himself before they realized this, so he would no longer be the one ending up hurt anymore. He also kept the womanizer persona he established during his teen years while engaging in high-risk behavior such as drinking copious amounts of alcohol and having unprotected sex with most flings, he has had throughout most of the seasons in the show as a distraction and coping mechanism for the abuse and neglect he received in his childhood. Having experienced abuse and neglect, Dean was more susceptible to engage in high-risk behaviors like this and more prone to have stress, anxiety, and emotional issues throughout his life (“How Childhood Trauma Affects Us as Adults: Mental Health”).
In adulthood, Dean continues to struggle with the trauma, abuse, and neglect from his childhood and adolescent years. There are multiple reasons this occurs with him being parentified at such an early age by his parents to fulfill their own emotional needs and to take care of his brother and coping with the loss of his mother and the effects it her death had on his father in his early childhood. Also, experiencing neglect and abuse from his father that occurred in his early childhood and adolescence caused him to have long lasting effects into his adulthood from the emotional baggage he has had to deal with.
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They come into their dark room and they both see a dark figure standing with his back to them against the window. Just like Mary Winchester saw through the door of the nursery. It’s practically an identical image.
Dean calls out, “HEY” and Sam struggles to turn on a light, and slowly the figure moves from out of the shadow at the window, into an even deeper shadow, where he disappears completely, before emerging into a beam of light, and he’s smiling, and very full emotionally (one of Jeffrey Dean Morgan’s signatures as an actor), and it’s John Winchester. Everyone just stands there staring at each other for a while. It feels like it goes on forever. Dad is smiling, with tears in his eyes.
Dean and Dad move across the room to each other, and hug, Dean’s hands clutching Dad’s back like he’s a little kid.
— Supernatural 1.16 Shadow, written by Eric Kripke
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positivexcellence · 11 months
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The Winchesters has more story to tell, and they're ready to fight for it
On Oct. 11, 2022, The Winchesters premiered, offering fans a welcome return to the Supernatural world. With Dean narrating, the series introduced a young John (Drake Rodger), home from Vietnam, as he met Mary (Meg Donnelly) and discovered the truth that would come to define their lives together: Monsters exist.
For 13 episodes, fans were back in the world they loved — this time around, though, things were a little different. As any good prequel does, The Winchesters expanded on the world and the lore of the flagship series, striking that crucial balance between the new and familiar. They'd cracked the code on how to keep this story alive without Sam and Dean, by shifting the focus from brothers to friends and, for the first time, telling a central Supernatural love story.
In its final episode, The Winchesters opened up the world by revealing that we weren't watching Sam and Dean's John and Mary, but rather the John and Mary of another universe. In other words, the multiverse is the limit when it comes to future stories. "I feel like episode 13 was us literally dropping the engine block in and being like, 'Okay fire it up,'" Ackles tells EW. "We blew the proverbial doors off. I think the potential is massive."
Yes, the potential is massive, even after the show's cancellation by The CW, because he and the cast have already launched a #SaveTheWinchesters campaign to find the story a new home. "There's a lot of story to tell here and there's a huge fan base that is very actively engaged and willing to support it," he says.
The power of the SPN Family has been documented many times (and cannot fully be explained). It's how the show landed its first EW cover back in 2016 — because the fans voted for it. It's a passion that Ackles saw the instant he tweeted out the news that the show had been canceled. "They are fired up," he says of the fans. "I love that about this fandom. I love that they are so passionate about this world and this universe and these characters that they are willing to go to the mat for a show like this. I think that speaks volumes, especially to those who are willing to listen and have the power to do something about it."
As for Ackles, he's feeling optimistic about a future for the show. After all, Dean Winchester's been knocked down more than a few times, and that's never stopped him from getting back up.
"I do feel hopeful and I don't know whether that's just the optimistic side of me, which I didn't know existed in this capacity," he says with a laugh. "I've been moving more toward a curmudgeon, more toward what we all thought Dean Winchester would dive into when he got older. That's just the Dean in me. But I do have this crazy optimism for this show and I think it largely resides in the energy that we found on set with this cast and this crew. That crazy optimism is one of the reasons why this show made it on air in the first place, and I think it's one of the several reasons why the show should continue somewhere."
For those wondering, Ackles says they've already started discussing ideas for what a new season could hold. "We were talking not only about story and where we wanted to take our cast, we were talking about who we were going to bring back from the mothership," he says, adding that he received text messages from a few Supernatural alums who were bummed they didn't make it on season 1. "We were putting together a lot of tricks to keep up our sleeve and keep it exciting, not just for the new fans but for the returning fans as well."
Much like creator Eric Kripke had at the start of Supernatural, Winchesters showrunner Robbie Thompson has a five-season plan for the story. "Hopefully we get to execute that," Ackles says. "I just think that there's a way to keep this alive and it would be a shame to let that go."
Looking even further into the future, Ackles adds, "And then we don't know what it would look like beyond that but there was certainly a way of tying this into like a possible return of Supernatural down the line, which Robbie and I had talked about. It's something that Jared and I have talked about, what that might look like."
For now, it looks like hope. And the cast has a lot of that. See the cast share their thoughts below:
Drake Rodgers
"Working on The Winchesters for the past year has been such an incredible honor. The fandom is so immense and passionate for this universe. They've been so accepting and supportive toward the show, it's made the entire process a dream. It would be a shame not to continue exploring the vast world we've built and grown to love so much. There's so much opportunity for new storylines and perspectives on the Supernatural universe."
Meg Donnelly
"I've learned so much about myself working on this show. The Winchesters is a beautiful story of stopping at nothing to help the people you love. There is so much more of this story that needs to be told and it would be honor to keep playing such an iconic character like Mary Campbell."
JoJo Fleites
"This story is worth fighting for because everyone can relate to these characters in some way, shape, or form. They are universal and timeless and they speak to so many people. I love that people see themselves in Mary, John, Carlos, Lata, Millie, Ada and all of these other characters. We want to keep telling the story and I specifically want to keep inspiring those that may not feel represented, such as people of color, the outcasts, the LGBTQIA+ community, and so on. It means a lot."
Nida Khurshid
"Continuing the legacy of the hugely successful show, Supernatural, has not only been humbling and thrilling but also a way for me to represent my heritage proudly through the character I get to play. Fighting for what you believe in whether it be saving the world from monsters or standing up for your friends, I believe our show can inspire that sense of courage and direction to fight for what's right in a world that needs it."
Demetria McKinney
"This show has been such an incredible bridge, not only in connecting the Supernatural origin dots, but bridging the gap between day-to-day and fantasy. Stepping away from life for a moment to recharge is something I don't take for granted. The added bonus of doing that in a space that is familiar (in its Supernatural nature) and mysterious (in its own right) isn't something you get to do often. The array of characters made everyone feel they had a place in this space. And I loved living out these stories with this cast and crew! Thanks for all the support you all gave us! We hope we get to play again one day."
Bianca Kajlich
"The Winchesters has been one of those 'lightning in a bottle' experiences. From the cast's very first dinner all the way through to the final few scenes of our season, we bonded over our shared desire to tell this story in our own way. We became a family within a family within a family! And from our family to yours, we believe in this story, this universe, and all the fans that light the way for us."
The series might have a fight ahead, but thankfully, if anyone knows how to put up a fight, it's a Winchester.
EW
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Clarity on the whole Jensen thing
Somebody asked me on another post I made about more context on what is going on with Jensen Ackles and the Winchesters series. I answered that comment, but I've decided to do so here as well because there might be some people who just don't know.
Now, this is not a timeline. This is a sloppy compilation of everything I have seen and heard over the last two years, since Supernatural ended. Feel free to correct me! Feel free to add to it! Feel free to share new information! That said, I am going to organize everything I know in the order I believe it happened. Without dates. Please keep this all in mind.
Also, spoiler warning for The Winchesters. I'm not pulling punches here.
It will be in two sections.
FIRST SECTION -Jensen, and the moves he made
The end of Supernatural was met with, well... "mixed reviews" would be generous. Everyone on the show stood by it... and Jensen did, officially. However, he was honest about the fact that initially he was having trouble with the ending. He tried to talk to the writers about it, I believe. But WHAT I DO KNOW is that he called Eric Kripke himself to get the ORIGINAL CREATOR'S take on this show's ending. Kripke gave his advice in favor of the ending, telling Jensen "You gotta think of the fans."
A little background on Jensen's relationship with his character, Dean Winchester. He has literally called Dean "the best imaginary friend [he'll] ever have."
Jensen established a production company with his wife, Danneel Ackles. It's called Chaos Machine and they formed a professional relationship with the WB in October 2020, approximately a month before Supernatural ended.
There is nothing that says that Chaos Machine has the copyright for Supernatural. That's probably why they partnered with the WB.
The Winchesters was announced with Jensen and Danneel Ackles attached as Executive Producers and Robbie Thompson credited as "developing" the show.
Jared Padalecki, as we know, had NO IDEA. I know I said this is a "sloppy compilation," but let's be clear about this: THERE WAS NO FEUD. Jared was upset and took it public on twitter, yes. Jensen promptly called him and apologized. Jared deleted the tweets and even reaffirmed their friendship. If there is any other issue between them, it has not been public from what I've seen. As we all know, the media likes to embellish. There was no "falling out." Just a misunderstanding that was promptly fixed.
The concept for the show was the years John and Mary were together. Jensen and Danneel stated it was a concept they had always wanted to explore.
The Winchesters aired October 11, 2022.
SECOND SECTION - Evidence of retcon/continuation/expansion
Dean narrates the beginning and end of every episode.
Dean appeared at the end of the first episode, writing in a notebook that had information in it that was taking him on some kind of journey. It was information that seemed to shake up everything, at least within the sphere of his parents (IT WAS NOT JOHN'S JOURNAL). He got into his Impala and drove down the road.
In this show, there is the Akrida, an apocalypse, preparation for that, and deadbeat dads (Samuel Campbell). They had to find Samuel and he had more info on the main plot, including a bunch of observational photos. John and Mary (who are very young and are just starting to fall in love) find a photo (right at the beginning of their makeout sess) of a guy.
This guy is super special - "Who is he?" "Who could he be?" And apparently, THIS GUY gave John a letter when he came back from Vietnam from his father, Henry. You know - MAN OF LETTERS HENRY.
WE NEED TO BE CLEAR - In the original canon, John never knew his dad was a man of letters and he NEVER KNEW Mary came from hunters. But in this show, JOHN KNOWS ALL OF THIS and is even HUNTING WITH MARY AND A RAGTAG TEAM OF MISFITS before they have even started a romantic relationship.
But wait, who is the guy in the photo? It's Dean, guys. It's Dean Winchester stepping out of his Impala. Dean is the one who gave John the letter.
Dean is time-traveling. This photo was taken within the decade this series takes place, the 1960s, in case you weren't convinced.
That's all the context I have. I know ya'll are saying Jensen is gloriously unhinged. I know it is with love lol But he has an artist's heart, evidently, and his love for Dean Winchester isn't going to die. We waited 15 years for SPN to be turned around and well... let's wait and see what's to come!
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Season 1, Episode 11: Scarecrow
After arguing about the search for their father, Sam and Dean split ways - Sam to continue the search in California, Dean to hunt the mysterious disappearances of passing-through couples in Indiana. (Directly from IMDB)
Director: Kim Manners 
Writers: Eric Kripke, John Shiban, Patrick Sean Smith
Set In: Burkittsville, Indiana
This is exactly how you get into the first 5 minutes of supernatural- leaving your car that has stopped on the side of the road
This is another annual meeting of the I hate John Winchester club
Dean needs to know his audience before he uses his rock star aliases
Meg???
"Dude, you fugly"
Dean, you're being so creepy
"Hope your apple pie is FREAKIN WORTH IT"
This episode has a bunch of the most popular Dean quotes
And there's the Meg we know and love
Pretty mediocre episode, especially after the last two. The plot line was so-so and the side characters were just okay besides meeting Meg for the first time. This was pretty much a bridge episode.
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writerswatch supernatural
I am doing a rewatch in groupings of the writers! The tag is #writerswatch. I have tallied the writers into groups giving the speed 1 episode per day, but I will not be consistent with that and have it listed into dates for each writer.
I have outlined it below and people can join if they do want to, whether it be for a certain writer, episode, or anything. I just thought this would be a fun format.
I am starting with Eric Kripke.
Eric Kripke: September 25th-October 10th
"Pilot"
1x02 (with Ron Milbauer and Terri Hughes Burton)
"Bloody Mary" (with Ron Milbauer and Terri Hughes Burton)
"Home"
"Shadow"
"Devil's Trap"
"In My Time of Dying"
"All Hell Breaks Loose - Part 2" (with Michael T. Moore)
"The Magnificent Seven" (with Emily McLaughlin)
"No Rest for the Wicked"
"Lazarus Rising"
"Heaven and Hell" (with Trevor Sands)
"Lucifer Rising"
"Sympathy for the Devil"
"The Real Ghostbusters" (with Nancy Weiner)
"Swan Song" (with Eric 'Giz' Gewirtz)"The Man Who Knew Too Much"
Sera Gamble: October 11th-November 8th
1.03 Dead in the Water
1.12 Faith
1.14 Nightmare
1.21 Salvation
2.03 Bloodlust
2.08 Crossroad Blues
2.13 Houses of the Holy
2.17 Heart
2.21 All Hell Breaks Loose: Part One
3.02 The Kids Are Alright
3.07 Fresh Blood
3.10 Dream a Little Dream of Me
3.12 Jus in Bello
3.15 Time Is on My Side
4.02 Are You There, God? It's Me, Dean Winchester
4.09 I Know What You Did Last Summer
4.17 It's a Terrible Life
4.21 When the Levee Breaks
5.02 Good God, Y'All
5.07 The Curious Case of Dean Winchester with Jenny Klein (story)
5.13 The Song Remains the Same with Nancy Weiner
5.21 Two Minutes to Midnight
6.01 Exile on Main St.
6.11 Appointment in Samarra
6.21 Let It Bleed
7.01 Meet the New Boss
7.10 Death's Door
7.17 The Born-Again Identity
7.23 Survival of the Fittest
Raelle Tucker*: November 9th-14th
1.03 Dead in the Water
1.12 Faith
1.14 Nightmare
1.21 Salvation
2.04 Children Shouldn't Play with Dead Things
2.10 Hunted
2.16 Roadkill
2.20 What Is and What Should Never Be
*she did write some episodes with Gamble so some are repeats, so I have cut down the days.
John Shiban: Nomember 15th-23rd
1.06 Skin
1.07 Hook Man
1.11 Scarecrow
1.15 The Benders
1.20 Dead Man's Blood
2.02 Everybody Loves a Clown
2.09 Croatoan
2.15 Tall Tales
2.19 Folsom Prison Blues
Cathryn Humphris: November 24th-November 30th
1.20 Dead Man's Blood with John Shiban
2.07 The Usual Suspects
2.14 Born Under a Bad Sign
3.05 Bedtime Stories
3.10 Dream a Little Dream of Me with Sera Gamble
4.04 Metamorphosis
4.14 Sex and Violence
Ben Edlund: December 1st-December 24th
2.05 Simon Said
2.12 Nightshifter
2.18 Hollywood Babylon
3.03 Bad Day at Black Rock
3.09 Malleus Maleficarum
3.13 Ghostfacers
4.05 Monster Movie
4.08 Wishful Thinking
4.16 On the Head of a Pin
5.04 The End
5.10 Abandon All Hope...
5.14 My Bloody Valentine
5.20 The Devil You Know
6.03 The Third Man
6.09 Clap Your Hands If You Believe...
6.15 The French Mistake
6.20 The Man Who Would Be King
7.02 Hello, Cruel World
7.09 How to Win Friends and Influence Monsters
7.15 Repo Man
7.21 Reading Is Fundamental
8.05 Blood Brother
8.13 Everybody Hates Hitler
8.21 The Great Escapist
Jeremy Carver: December 24th-January 11th
3.04 Sin City 
3.08 A Very Supernatural Christmas 
3.11 Mystery Spot with Emily McLaughlin (story)
3.14 Long-Distance Call
4.03 In the Beginning 
4.11 Family Remains 
4.15 Death Takes a Holiday
4.20 The Rapture
5.03 Free to Be You and Me 
5.08 Changing Channels
5.15 Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid
5.18 Point of No Return
8.01 We Need to Talk About Kevin
8.23 Sacrifice
9.01 I Think I'm Gonna Like It Here 
9.23 Do You Believe in Miracles? 
10.01 Black
10.23 Brother's Keeper 
11.01 Out of the Darkness, Into the Fire
Matt Witten: January 12-January 13th
2.06 No Exit
2.11 Playthings
Richard Hatem: January 14th-January 15th
1.04 Phantom Traveler
1.10 Asylum
Andrew Dabb: January 16th-March 1st, Daniel Loflin: January 16th-31st
4.06 Yellow Fever with Daniel Loflin 
4.13 After School Special with Daniel Loflin
4.19 Jump the Shark with Daniel Loflin 
5.06 I Believe the Children Are Our Future with Daniel Loflin 
5.11 Sam, Interrupted with Daniel Loflin
5.16 Dark Side of the Moon with Daniel Loflin
5.19 Hammer of the Gods with Daniel Loflin
6.04 Weekend at Bobby's with Daniel Loflin
6.07 Family Matters with Daniel Loflin 
6.13 Unforgiven with Daniel Loflin
6.18 Frontierland with Daniel Loflin and Jackson Stewart (story) 
7.03 The Girl Next Door with Daniel Loflin
7.08 Season Seven, Time for a Wedding! with Daniel Loflin
7.14 Plucky Pennywhistle's Magic Menagerie with Daniel Loflin 
7.22 There Will Be Blood with Daniel Loflin 
8.02 What's Up, Tiger Mommy? with Daniel Loflin 
8.08 Hunteri Heroici 
8.14 Trial and Error
8.22 Clip Show
9.02 Devil May Care
9.10 Road Trip 
9.20 Bloodlines 
9.22 Stairway to Heaven 
10.02 Reichenbach
10.09 The Things We Left Behind 
10.17 Inside Man 
10.22 The Prisoner 
11.02 Form and Void 
11.10 The Devil in the Details
11.15 Beyond the Mat with John Bring
11.17 Red Meat with Robert Berens 
11.23 Alpha and Omega 
12.01 Keep Calm and Carry On 
12.09 First Blood 
12.23 All Along the Watchtower 
13.01 Lost and Found 
13.10 Wayward Sisters with Robert Berens 
13.15 A Most Holy Man with Robert Singer 
13.23 Let the Good Times Roll 
14.01 Stranger in a Strange Land 
14.13 Lebanon with Meredith Glynn
14.20 Moriah 
15.01 Back and to the Future 
15.10 The Heroes' Journey 
15.20 Carry On
Julie Siege: March 2nd-March 7th
4.07 It's the Great Pumpkin, Sam Winchester 
4.12 Criss Angel Is a Douchebag
4.18 The Monster at the End of This Book 
5.05 Fallen Idol 
5.12 Swap Meat with Harvey Fedor and Rebecca Dessertine 
5.17 99 Problems
Adam Glass*: March 8th-March 22nd
6.02 Two and a Half Men 
6.08 All Dogs Go to Heaven
6.12 Like a Virgin 
6.19 Mommy Dearest 
7.04 Defending Your Life
7.11 Adventures in Babysitting
7.18 Party On, Garth 
8.06 Southern Comfort 
8.12 As Time Goes By
8.18 Freaks and Geeks
9.07 Bad Boys
9.12 Sharp Teeth
9.17 Mother's Little Helper 
10.04 Paper Moon 
10.12 About A Boy
*both hitting Dabb and Glass these are writers I don’t really even take as canon most of the time, and then adding in Buckleming soon, but I’m still going to act as if I’ll have the stomach for it.
Brett Matthews: March 23rd-March 25th
6.05 Live Free or Twihard
6.10 Caged Heat with Jenny Klein (story)
6.16 And Then There Were None
Eric Charmelo and Nicole Snyder: March 26th-April 3rd
6.06 You Can't Handle the Truth
6.14 Mannequin 3: The Reckoning
6.17 My Heart Will Go On
9.05 Dog Dean Afternoon
9.13 The Purge
10.06 Ask Jeeves
10.13 Halt & Catch Fire
11.07 Plush
11.13 Love Hurts
Brad Buckner and Eugene Ross-Leming: April 4th-May 11th
(I wouldn’t recommend rewatching all of these and am assuming people know what to be critical and prepare for)
1.13 Route 666
7.05 Shut Up, Dr. Phil
7.13 The Slice Girls
7.19 Of Grave Importance
8.03 Heartache
8.07 A Little Slice of Kevin
8.15 Man's Best Friend with Benefits
8.19 Taxi Driver
9.03 I'm No Angel
9.09 Holy Terror
9.16 Blade Runners
9.21 King of the Damned
10.03 Soul Survivor
10.10 The Hunter Games
10.16 Paint It Black
10.21 Dark Dynasty
11.03 The Bad Seed
11.09 O Brother Where Art Thou?
11.18 Hell's Angel
11.21 All in the Family
12.02 Mamma Mia
12.08 LOTUS
12.13 Family Feud
12.17 The British Invasion
12.21 There's Something About Mary
13.02 The Rising Son
13.07 War of the Worlds
13.13 Devil's Bargain
13.18 Bring 'em Back Alive
13.22 Exodus
14.02 Gods and Monsters
14.07 Unhuman Nature
14.12 Prophet and Loss
14.19 Jack in the Box
15.02 Raising Hell
15.08 Our Father, Who Aren't in Heaven
15.13 Destiny's Child
15.19 Inherit the Earth
Robbie Thompson: May 12th-May 29th
7.06 Slash Fiction
7.12 Time After Time 
7.20 The Girl with the Dungeons and Dragons Tattoo 
8.04 Bitten
8.11 LARP and the Real Girl
8.17 Goodbye Stranger 
8.20 Pac-Man Fever
9.04 Slumber Party
9.11 First Born
9.18 Meta Fiction
10.05 Fan Fiction
10.11 There's No Place Like Home 
10.18 Book of the Damned 
10.20 Angel Heart
11.04 Baby
11.11 Into the Mystic
11.16 Safe House
11.20 Don't Call Me Shurley
Jenny Klein: May 30th-June 7th
5.07 The Curious Case of Dean Winchester with Sera Gamble (story) 
6.10 Caged Heat with Brett Matthews (story) 
7.16 Out with the Old with Robert Singer 
8.10 Torn and Frayed
9.08 Rock and a Hard Place
9.15 #thinman
10.08 Hibbing 911 with Phil Sgriccia (story)
10.15 The Things They Carried 
11.08 Just My Imagination
Daniel Loflin (without Andrew Dabb): June 8th-June 9th
8.09 Citizen Fang
8.16 Remember the Titans
Robert Berens: June 10th-July 5th
9.06 Heaven Can't Wait 
9.14 Captives 
9.19 Alex Annie Alexis Ann
10.07 Girls, Girls, Girls
10.14 The Executioner's Song
10.19 The Werther Project
11.06 Our Little World
11.14 The Vessel
11.17 Red Meat with Andrew Dabb 
11.22 We Happy Few 
12.03 The Foundry 
12.07 Rock Never Dies
12.14 The Raid
12.19 The Future with Meredith Glynn 
12.22 Who We Are
13.03 Patience 
13.09 The Bad Place 
13.10 Wayward Sisters with Andrew Dabb
13.21 Beat the Devil
14.03 The Scar
14.09 The Spear 
14.18 Absence 
15.03 The Rupture
15.09 The Trap
15.12 Galaxy Brain
15.18 Despair
Nancy Won: July 6th-July 8th
11.05 Thin Lizzie
11.12 Don't You Forget About Me 
11.19 The Chitters
John Bring: July 9th-July 10th
11.15 Beyond the Mat with Andrew Dabb 
12.18 The Memory Remains
Davy Perez: July 11th-July 22nd
12.04 American Nightmare
12.12 Stuck in the Middle (With You) 
12.15 Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell 
13.06 Tombstone 
13.11 Breakdown 
13.17 The Thing 
14.04 Mint Condition 
14.11 Damaged Goods 
14.16 Don't Go in the Woods with Nick Vaught 
15.04 Atomic Monsters
15.11 The Gamblers with Meredith Glynn 
15.15 Gimme Shelter
Meredith Glynn: July 23rd-August 6th
12.05 The One You've Been Waiting For
12.11 Regarding Dean 
12.16 Ladies Drink Free 
12.19 The Future with Robert Berens
13.04 The Big Empty 
13.08 The Scorpion and the Frog 
13.14 Good Intentions 
13.20 Unfinished Business 
14.05 Nightmare Logic 
14.08 Byzantium 
14.13 Lebanon with Andrew Dabb 
15.06 Golden Time 
15.11 The Gamblers with Davy Perez 
15.12 Galaxy Brain (story) with Robert Berens 
15.17 Unity
Steve Yockey: August 7th-August 17th
12.06 Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox 
12.10 Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets 
12.20 Twigs & Twine & Tasha Banes 
13.05 Advanced Thanatology 
13.12 Various & Sundry Villains 
13.19 Funeralia 
14.06 Optimism 
14.10 Nihilism 
14.14 Ouroboros 
14.15 Peace of Mind with Meghan Fitzmartin (story) 
15.05 Proverbs 17:3
Jeremy Adams: August 18th-August 20th
13.16 Scoobynatural with James Krieg 
15.07 Last Call 
15.14 Last Holiday
Auxiliary Writers: August 21st-August 27th
1.08 Bugs by Bill Coakley and Rachel Nave
1.17 by Hell House Trey Callaway
1.18 Something Wicked by Daniel Knauf
1.19 Provenance by David Ehrman
3.06 Red Sky at Morning by Laurence Andries
7.07 The Mentalists by Ben Acker and Ben Blacker
15.16 Drag Me Away (From You) by Meghan Fitzmartin
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From 'Supernatural' to 'The Boys': Jensen Ackles Dissects Differences Between Dean and Soldier Boy
Soldier Boy 'just wants the accolades and he wants to live the life of a celebrity and be adored and be idolized, in all his toxic masculinity,' the actor says.
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For 15 years, Jensen Ackles played half of an iconic demon-hunting brother duo that literally saved the world — multiple times. Dean Winchester on Supernatural was an everyman, but he was also a superhero of sorts: The elder son protecting his little brother when his father was out on the road grew up saving as many people and hunting as many things as possible and became a vessel for an archangel. How does one follow up such a role? For Ackles, it's by playing a literal superhero on Prime Video's The Boys.
Ackles steps into the third season of the Emmy-nominated drama from creator and showrunner Eric Kripke (who also created Supernatural) as Soldier Boy, a superhero who became such a celebrity he "could basically do whatever he wanted," Ackles tells Metacritic.
The leader of a team called Payback, Soldier Boy was known as a World War II hero who went on to star in movies, release music, and make important appearances. Until a trip to Nicaragua went terribly wrong in the 1980s.
As the third episode of the third season explains, during that trip, Payback and American troops were ambushed by Russians, who supposedly had a weapon that was strong enough to kill the all-powerful Soldier Boy. They took his body and their weapon and absconded, and the world mourned their fallen hero, with his team disbanding and Vought International building upon that celebrity with The Seven and putting all of their new hopes on Homelander (Antony Starr) as the most powerful of the supes.
But Soldier Boy's story doesn't truly end there. As Kripke previously told Metacritic, The Boys introduced "the myth" of Soldier Boy before the man, but the man is still very much around. And although he has been through it, he still holds onto some very deeply ingrained character traits displayed in the media footage and flashbacks.
"He's from a time that has been forgotten. I like to say he's an analog hero in a digital world. But he's also not going to assimilate; he is not gonna conform," Ackles tells Metacritic.
Here, Ackles talks to Metacritic about Soldier Boy's fight style compared to Dean Winchester's, the character's biggest challenges in stepping back into the world at this time in society, and if he has had discussions about also coming aboard The Boys as a director.
I have to start by asking for comparisons between Dean Winchester and Soldier Boy, specifically their fighting styles and your stunt training.
I will say that the years and years and years of of fighting and stunt choreography and stunt rehearsals and just all around the stunts on Supernatural certainly gave me a great foundation for working with this character and working with the cast and the stunt crew. John Koyama, who was our stunt coordinator on The Boys, I think at one point he was calling me the fight coordinator. [Laughs] 'Cause I was just making suggestions. And he was always like, "Yes, yes, do that!" So I will say a lot of that came in handy.
But as far as the style of it, I would say [Dean's] fighting style was blunt-instrument style. There wasn't a lot of finesse to it, even though sometimes they try to finesse it and work in some military style jujitsu and stuff thinking that maybe John had taught his boys certain fighting styles. So, we would try to emulate a little bit but not over the top. Soldier Boy had none of that: This is just straight up, "Punch people as hard as you can." But at the same time, he's got superpowers, so his his strength is far beyond that of any mortal. Having that to play with a little bit was was fun and it was also shocking to me. For instance, there's a sequence where Payback shows up in Nicaragua, and we get to this whole fight sequence, and I come in and start fighting off the bad guys. And at one point I turn around and I swing my shield, and the stunt guy that I swing at, he's on a wire and he literally just goes flying through the roof and disappears off into the ether. It was so jarring for me just as a human being to swat somebody and have them fly away. I liked it. I liked it a lot. Definitely a different beast but the 15 years definitely came in handy.
You put yourself through a workout regimen to bulk up for the show and those stunts. Why did you want to do that, rather than rely on padding or VFX?
I was in L.A. in the fall of 2020, and they were building me this super suit. They just see what kind of things fit my my body and my forearms and my chest and shoulders, and they have a design, and I had to come back here. I had about half a dozen different fittings to make the suit, but halfway through that process, I asked our suit designer L.J. [Shannon], "Are you gonna put in padded stuff to make me look big and built?" And she just very sweetly and sincerely looked me in the eyes and patted my arm and said, "Oh, honey, you're gonna bring me some muscles in April." I don't think I've talked to her about this since then, but literally, in my head, my ego goes, "Challenge accepted!" And so, that was it. I was like, "Well, if I'm going to be a superhero, I guess I should look like one." And it was tough. It was COVID and there were no gyms open, so I just got some free weights and went to town, Rocky style.
How do you compare personality traits of Dean and Soldier Boy, especially around mommy or daddy issues?
Dean idolized his father, even though his father was arguably a very untraditional and probably an absent father. But he was his hero. Whereas Soldier Boy, I think he just has issues all around. He was created in a lab, essentially, and his father is Vought. And so, what what they made him is very similar to what they made Homelander. They gave him this false sense of of strength and security and popularity and heroism that really he doesn't know how to navigate, and he is pretending to be something that he truly isn't. But because he was groomed to be that way, that's all he knows and that's all he understands. So I think they're very different, although you could argue that Dean is a bit of his father's Soldier Boy in that world. But the two very different, and I also approached it very differently. Dean was somebody who was fighting the good fight and doing things for the betterment of man, whereas Soldier Boy, he's just out for himself. He doesn't care. He just wants the accolades and he wants to live the life of a celebrity and be adored and be idolized, in all his toxic masculinity.
It's interesting that you phrase it that way because he's stepping into a world where that celebrity is not necessarily the case anymore, because he's been gone for so long. What did you consider his biggest challenges in being in the world again?
This is another kind of dialogue about our current culture: There's a feeling from some people, certainly the older generation, that "Our America is being stolen or being taken away or it's changing." And so, Soldier Boy is certainly of that mindset of, "What have they done to my America? What have they done to my world? They've ruined it. They've slapped it shiny stickers [on it] and covered it in glitter. It's not the world that I that I know; it's not the way it should be." I don't necessarily know that he is out to make America great again. But I feel like if he was around long enough, he might wear that hat.
Do you want to return to the show as Soldier Boy or even as a director in future seasons, and were there discussions about you directing in Season 3 but it was just too much with you also stepping into the show as an actor for the first time?
How Soldier Boy happened in the first place [was] I told Kripke, "I will be a part of this show in any capacity, way, shape, or form. What what do I need to do?" So yeah, I had an amazing time. I had a lot of fun playing this character, I certainly had a lot of fun playing with this cast of characters, and I really do enjoy the show; I'm a fan myself. So, if Eric calls and says, "Hey, I need you to do A, B, and C, I'll say how quickly do you need it?"
There was never any any discussion about directing [in Season 3], there hasn't been necessarily about coming in in that capacity, but there's been discussions about, "Where's Soldier Boy going to fit in with some of these other shows that are spinning off?"
You always have The Winchesters to direct!
That I do. That, I think they're going to have to wrestle me away from.
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https://youtu.be/kqNUR5bD0Wg (Gold Panel from Toronto con 7/31)
At ~11:00 Jensen mentions a quote from Kripke where he says "It's not jumping the shark if you never come down." And honestly, that explains so much about how he's running TB...
Also at ~30:00 (after a fan asks about which character Jensen would play on TB besides SB and he talks about how Butcher is basically what Kripke wanted to do with Dean but couldn't) Jared says "Eric Kripke had sent me a text on my birthday like 'dude I can't believe you're 40, I remember thinking you were too young to play Sam and now you're too old' he has a funny sense of humor. But he did say like 'hey, we had Ackles on the show, when are you gonna come play?' and I was like 'well, I'd love too I just have to go do like 4 months of squats cause I know you're gonna show my ass so...' Maybe I can sneak on sometime, I'd love to."
So basically Kripke has talked to Jared more about being on TB than Jensen has about him being on TW... interesting...
But for real, I know a lot of people asked Jensen and Kripke about JDM and Jared being on during s3 promo and they said they would love it blah blah typical PR answer but I hadn't really expected him to actually mention it to Jared. Especially since Jared had done an interview shortly after s2 of Walker ended where the interviewer brought it up about Kripke talking about getting him on TB and he seemed surprised like he hadn't heard anything about it yet:
https://www.tvinsider.com/1049661/walker-season-2-finale-jared-padalecki-walker-independence/
I just spoke to one of your friends, Mr. Eric Kripke over at The Boys and he said that you have an open invitation to come over and make a cameo.
No s–t! Oh my God, I would love to. I’d have to start doing some squats though so I would be ready to show my naked ass
Now we know Kripke brought it up on his bday so apparently that was the first he heard about it but I kinda just thought it would be a thing talked about for promo and never mentioned again. I bet AA's are about to absolutely lose their collective shit... again... like they did when it was brought up during TB press.
Eric Kripke is reliving his middle-school boy days while TB comic book creator Garth Ennis continues to live out his perpetual teenager days, which frankly I find off putting.
“Butcher is basically what Kripke wanted to do with Dean but couldn't”...Butcher reminds me more of John Winchester, obsessed over what happened to his wife and swallow his feelings all for the for the sake that obsession.  Maybe I can see Dean Winchester in S2 Butcher who is seems to exist to act cute and make cringy quips.  We the audience experience The Boys world through Hugie/Starlight with Butcher as our tour guide and mentor to Hughie, in similar ways we experience Supernatural through Sam with Dean as our tour guide and mentor to Sam.
Jared celebrated his birthday a month early, around the time of the TV Line interview.  After months of people asking Kripke if Jared will be on TB and reporting it, I guess Kripke figured he should actually communicate with Jared on his birthday and avoid another big faux pas that ignited prequel-gate.  In fact, let’s have another look back on June 24 2021 and laugh over it.
Remember kids, this rule applies in your personal life and at your job: Never Assume.
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“AA's are about to absolutely lose their collective shit... again... like they did when it was brought up during TB press.”  
Oh yeah, AA lost their shit over that TV Line interview and accused Jared of pulling a Jensen by asking Kripke for a job, until Damian Holbrook shut them down and said he, not Jared, was the one that brought it up with Kripke.  Jared never contacted Kripke about appearing on TB, and now we learn that it was Kripke to contacted Jared to be on TB.   That’s must feel like a carpet burn to the AAs since as far as we know, Kripke never contacted Jensen about appearing on TB.
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