#eugenie ross-leming

[jensensitive]

(about s12) "I mean, Dean has been a parent all his life. He’s parented Sam. They’re children of abandonment, so Dean has a lot of practice in being a parent and not as much practice in being a child. That’s a huge hole in him, his never having been nurtured that properly himself," Ross-Leming adds. "But I think with the arrival of Jack we are dealing now with, yes, he’s the son of Satan, but he’s also the son of humanity. We don’t actually know ourselves -- although there’s arguments about this -- where he’s going to go in terms of what his destiny is. But what that has led us as writers to do is to start redefining what is good and evil anyway? I think this season will be a little more nuanced."

(source)

#i mean go off honestly #eugenie ross-leming #brl #dean and jack

[mlobsters]

supernatural s14e12 prophet and loss (w. brad buckner, eugenie ross-leming)

feel like i'm just grinding through s14 at a decent pace. several times now they've made me had minor (to moderate) breakdowns and i just want to keep plowing through because i don't want the breakdowns to last more than one day 🫠 been a long time since a season made me cry so much. and especially with mid-season episodes? but it feels more.... hm. calculated. like when i bitched about 4 months suddenly equals 40 years in hell etc.

ranted about it in 9x09 because i don't think i was making my feelings known here for every episode back in s4

instead i just sighed because “trust me, kevin” and “i always end up screwed :)” so now dean’s gonna feel guilty. he’s already feeling guilty enough, did we need that too? when they push too hard on the excessive dean whump, i get annoyed. like the whole 4 months=40 years, i enjoyed torturing people, etc. edgelord bullshit :P

except instead of getting mad about it being edgelord bullshit now, i'm just feeling brokenhearted and manipulated. very not fun times. it's too much too close together to the jack thing and too similar to things they've done in the past, i think. is why it's pushing me away so hard.

dean's nightmare in the box / suicidal deathbed-esque convo also with interstellar-ish music / interstellar cornfield chase (c. hans zimmer) played by anna lapwood on the organ

well. dean's nightmare was awful. shades of him in hell calling out for sam. cannot fucking wait until this particular plotline gets snuffed out. and because i can't deal with not comparing this interstellar-ish music (it's in both spn scenes) i tacked it on to the end of this video too.

SAM Oh, hey. Didn’t mean to wake you. Sorry. DEAN No, it’s just a… bad dream. It’s fine. SAM You want to talk about it? DEAN No, I’m – No, I’m okay. DEAN What’re you doing? Why don’t you get some sleep? SAM You know, Dean, you don’t have to act like what you’re planning to do is just business as usual. I-I know you’re scared. DEAN Never said I wasn’t scared. But it doesn’t matter. SAM Doesn’t matter? We know we could die, uh, doing what we do. It’s always a possibility. But what you’re talking about is far worse than death. Michael’s an archangel. He could literally keep you buried in a coffin, alive, forever. DEAN Okay. I get it. But what’s the other option, huh? Michael gets outta my head and ends the world? ‘Cause it’s all right there in Billie’s book. SAM Yeah, but that’s only if we don’t find another way to take Michael off the board, and there has to be another way. DEAN And what is that other way? [SAM says nothing.] DEAN Exactly.

(but at least he wasn't sleeping in his jeans this time. oh and they're in an actual normal mid-price generic hotel room)

this reminds me a lot of the conversations in s5 about sammy going in the cage.

and like when i was watching the old guard, i'm like ah yes, stuck in a coffin in the ocean drowning over and over because you're immortal - i have heard this story before! on the vampire diaries! someone... stefan?? was stuck in a ...... safe? and pushed into a lake to repeatedly die and revive. 500 years and 3 months, respectively.

well this rando dude torturing and drowning a woman scene, also awful. jesus. we're committing to darker-than-usual i guess

CAS Sam. Maybe if I spoke with Dean… SAM It wouldn’t matter. Believe me, I-I I’ve never seen him like this. He won’t listen to me. H-He just – No. If we don’t find some way… Dean’s gone.

that interstellar-ish music again...

DEAN You ever think about when we were kids? SAM Maybe. Yeah, sure. Sometimes. W-Why? DEAN I know I wasn’t always the greatest brother to you. SAM Dean, you were the one who was always there for me. The only one. I mean, you practically raised me. DEAN I know things got dicey… you know, with dad… the way he was. And I just… I didn’t always look out for you the way that I should’ve. I mean, I had my own stuff, you know. In order to keep the peace, it probably looked like I took his side quite a bit. Sometimes when I was… when I was away, you know it wasn’t ‘cause I just ran out, right? Dad would… he would send me away when I really pissed him off. I think you knew that. SAM Man, I left that behind a long time ago. I had to. And if we’re gonna get through this, I-I have to do like you said and… try and keep my mind off of where we’re going. So, if we could not have conversations that sound like… deathbed apologies, I would really appreciate it. DEAN Right. Yeah.

listen i know this gets resolved somehow and i'm not gonna bail on this fucking project with a little more than a season left but i can't express how much i don't want to watch something that's making me cry so hard my head is killing me (more than it was already) on a regular basis. this is too many things that cut too close to home with characters i'm too attached to. sigh.

#supernatural #spnwatch #spn 14x12 #brad buckner #eugenie ross-leming #spn clip #spn musical score #spn interstellarish music #christopher lennertz #tim wynn

[laf-outloud]

Man, you doing God’s work out here saying the truth. I couldn’t really comprehend why Jared was getting the hate for being betrayed by someone who was supposedly his best friend, and then the onslaught of undeserved criticism against him for petty made up reasons.

Even back when the show was still running, I hated how Sam was often pushed to the side and undermined while the spotlight was shifted onto Dean/destiel

If there was someone who could’ve saved supernatural, I would’ve honestly handed the show to you, I think you would’ve done the characters and casting justice

Well, I'm not sure which of my posts prompted this ask, but... thank you? I think?

Though I will disagree that the spotlight ever shifted to Destiel. Dean, maybe, but never Dean and Cas (most everyone involved considered Destiel a joke).

And while I appreciate the compliment, I guarantee there are much better SPN writers and analysts on this site who would easily surpass any ideas I could envision.

If I had worked on SPN, it would have been as a script supervisor, ensuring continuity... (and also EP so I could fire Misha, Bobo, Robbie, BuckLeming, Dabb, and Bob Singer).

#ask box #anti jared hate #anti destiel #anti misha #anti bobo berens #anti robbie thompson #anti brad buckner #anti eugenie ross-leming #anti andrew dabb #anti bob singer

[suncaptor]

I also see, you know we have a division in our crew of — I see some kind of goodness inside Lucifer, some hope for redemption. Most people don’t, they say ‘no, no, he’s bad.’ But I just think he’s misunderstood and so I always lean into those parts of the story that can show more of Lucifer. -Leming

HOW THE FUCK do you say that at SEASON 13. After being a writer FOR SEASON SEVEN? for co-writing 11x09?? I know assuming the writers actually watch the show is a long shot but even then how do you have DIVISION ARGUMENTS with the actors ABOUT this and STILL think this way. How.

Like whatever you actual theological views of Lucifer are. In your show he tortured and abused one of the two main characters for centuries so badly there's a season arc about him hallucinating him while Lucifer makes rape jokes and refuses to let him sleep and nearly dies from the trauma. You were literally a writer for that season and a writer for seasons later when he does more horrifying things. why are you fighting about the trauma of that why are you trying to retcon it. why do you not care. why do you think he deserves redemption in a story based around his main victim.

#eugenie ross leming #leming #wank cw #lucifer #spn #supernatural #incoherenets #tw abuse #IM SO ANGRY MAN SO ANGRY #tw rape #s.a #torture

[dashiellqvverty]

the thing is i dont even want to be a screenwriter like i used to really want to write for tv and part of me still does but ultimately i dont have IDEAS like i dont have a pilot to pitch or anything like that its just not what im good at. and what i really want to do is be like?? an editor?? but i dont even know if thats a job that EXISTS in that context.

#like obviously you cant be a story editor on the larger scale of a show without first being a staff writer or wahtever #but im like. what i want to do is just like. edit individual scripts. #but i dont think thats even how tv WORKS idk #it just feels silly #like yeah this is what i want to do but im bad at it so i only want to do the part im good at even tho its one job #what i need to do is get a writing partner where we're always co-credited #like brad buckner and eugenie ross-leming but good #r.txt

[italwayshadtobeyou]

Every time someone talks about how they & their Tumblr friends have “the good Supernatural in our heads,” it turns out that 90% of their headcanons are based on episodes by Buckleming and Adam Glass.

In other words, “the good Supernatural in our heads” relies almost exclusively on the worst Supernatural in WB’s catalog.

#spn fandom #spn writers #anti-adam glass #anti-brad buckner #anti-eugenie ross-leming #adventures on social media #fanwank

[spnepisodemasterlist]

Season 1, Episode 13: Route 666

Dean is contacted by an ex-flame who asks him for help when black men in her hometown are being murdered by a driver-less racist truck. (Directly from IMDB)

Director: Paul Shapiro 

Writers: Eric Kripke, Eugenie Ross-Leming, Brad Buckner

Location: Cape Girardeau, Missouri

Okay, Cassie seems awesome, I like her

Maybe the deaths involve people involved with the paper??

There are some really sensitive discussions of racism in this episode

If Sam’s plan had gone wrong, and Dean and the car were driven off the road, Dean never would have forgiven him for destroying baby

This was a good episode, and I love this side character of Cassie, I wish we had seen more of her (I don’t think she ever comes back?)

I didn’t have much to say for this episode hahah

#car crash #ghosts #spirits #salt and burn #cassie #director paul shapiro #writer eric kripke #writer eugenie ross-leming #writer brad buckner

[ardentpoop]

broadly speaking spn is the tv equivalent of "if X terrible novelist can sell this bullshit for a living anyone can"

#this means you eugenie ross-leming and brad buckner #they can't write worth a DAMN it's actually impressive how incredibly shitty their episodes are

[winchestergifs]

STACKEDNATURAL ⇉ 126.5/327

14.7 Unhuman Nature Written by Eugenie Ross-Leming & Brad Buckner Directed by John F. Showalter Original Air Date: November 29, 2018

#supernatural #dean winchester #jack kline #deanwinchesteredit #jackklineedit #dadstiel #stackednatural #spnedit #supernaturaledit #cowboycoven #spncreatorsdaily #userbbelcher #useranny #becauseofthebowties #altarofrowena #rambleoncas #tusersana #userdorksinlove #deancaskiss #anztag #userbon #deanncastiel #jennmish #userrlaura #usererinlindslay #14x7

[tiktaalic]

My dealer: got some straight gas🔥😛 this strain is called “supernatural bts” 😳 you’ll be zonked out of your gourd💯

Me: yeah whatever. I don’t feel shit.

5 minutes later: dude I swear I just saw brad buckner and his hag eugenie ross leming

My buddy Misha pacing: The CW is lying to us

#etxt #spnwatch #this is what happens to me when i take an evil edible #misha pacing #straight gas #the cw is lying to us

[1x20]

JACK So, God’s like my grandfather. He’s family, and that’s… That’s good.

DEAN Sometimes.

— Supernatural 13.02 The Rising Son, written by Eugenie Ross-Leming and Brad Buckner

#supernaturaledit #spnedit #spncentral #deanwinchesteredit #samwinchesteredit #jackklineedit #dean winchester #sam winchester #jack kline #cowboycoven #spn: 13x02 #*gifs #if anyone tries to tell you that this is NOT the greatest show ever. they are wrong

[mishacollinsdates]

BONUS ROUND!

#mishacollinsdates #misha collins #spn #supernatural #polls #bonus round

[mlobsters]

supernatural s13e12 devil's bargain (w. eugenie ross-leming, brad buckner)

laughing that the recap shows asmodeus impersonating cas on the phone, i have such a blind spot for this plotline because i aggressively don't care - i had forgotten they did that too (i was just guessing when i mentioned it prev ep), and sometimes i think about the process for picking clips to include in the recap. like, these dumbasses forgot about the asmo!cas phone call, better remind them (it's me hi i'm the dumbass it's me)

CAS Yes. And the archangel, Michael, again the Apocalypse World version, wants to use the spell to invade and conquer our world. That’s why I met with Lucifer. DEAN So…You met … Cas, I specifically told you not to do anything stupid. CAS Well, he was weak and given the context of our imminent annihilation it didn’t seem stupid. Lucifer wanted to help fight Michael.

what's stupid is dean telling cas not to do anything stupid. i would snap at my kids for that and tell them they're being rude and mean. so i'm glad cas snapped at him, slightly, and sounded mad

SAM Oh yeah, Lucifer wanted to help, sure. CAS If he were lying I’d have known it. He was, he was scared. But Asmodeus showed up before we could finish our conversation and when we finally managed to escape Lucifer did try to kill me. DEAN Oh so much for helping.

feel like they're trying to reestablish lucifer being scary. something about being sarcastic but like, he tortured our sam for an unknown but probably very long time, they have every right to be bitchy and sarcastic at the least towards cas on news of him sorta working with lucifer for a minute

ketch and asmodeus shenanigans *eyes glaze over* ditto for lucifer having to be human

DEAN Cas, I’m sorry. All that time you were with Asmodeus, I should have known it wasn’t you. CAS No, he’s a shapeshifter. Besides, I was the one who got myself captured. DEAN Yeah, but if Sam and I knew you know we would have– CAS Yeah, I know you would have tried another long shot. I’m fine, Dean. DEAN You sure about that?

my dig at the soulless plotline, but how long did dean (AND BOBBY) go with soulless!sam before realizing something was seriously fucked up with him (i would say an UNREALISTICALLY FAR TOO LONG TIME) but if we're accepting that to be in-character, then surely brief phone calls you can't expect dean to have realized it wasn't cas -_- so apologize for making the don't do anything stupid comment instead.

ah so this is the episode with danneel in it (oh, just looked it up, didn't realize it was more than one) i knew she was an angel but didn't know when. haven't seen anything she's in, only know of her vaguely due to jackles. was very much not expecting a ... very young sounding voice. her smile reminds me a bit of kate siegel

SISTER JO Don’t be afraid. You’re whole again.

oh lord the ableism. how do you think that feels to people that have facial differences? ugh. i know that's super common and pervasive but ugh.

girlboss angel, okay, why not

mmmk. little distorted demon growl in the mix of that whole scene

DEAN Alright, I say we take dickbag back to the bunker and find out what he knows, put a bullet in him and burn his bones and flush his ashes. CAS I like that plan.

how about since you know 100% this guy isn't going to break under torture, and that torture info is bad and useless anyway - just kill him and be done with it. i know, shows gotta do this, but i'm so over everything.

SISTER JO We don’t have to rush. We can do this slowly.

really wasn't expecting the kinky angel action a la sam and ruby. i feel the logistics of the angel grace recharge that's supposedly happening here don't quite add up :p but weird sex scene with jackles's wife. that just keeps going. i get it.

KETCH I know you think I’m a monster. DEAN Because you are. KETCH But even I must draw the line somewhere. And letting Lucifer free upon the earth? Well, as it turns out, that’s my line. Not to mention the whole Michael situation. I know you want to kill me. I know you can’t forgive me but if you think about it I’m the lesser of, well, at least three evils. All I ask is that you wait to murder me until after I prove useful. Hmm?

lesser of at least three evils was funny, i'll give them that. still heavy sigh over all this

DONATELLO (screaming) It's like pulling friggin' teeth!! (calmly) I’m working my way through the ingredients. SAM Right. Okay. At least we know the spell we need is in there and we have a plan.

so does that mean sam is all hunkydory now that they have a plan? no more "in a dark place" sam? insert eyeroll

speaking of eyerolls. did they get a proof of concept from him showing he can actually make angels?

LUCIFER Hail to the king, baby.

mhm. preferred when ash said it :p

it's on the damned tip of my tongue who he's reminding of and driving me up the wall. but the cackle i cackled. ARCHANGEL BLADE. okay. why not. couldn't even come up with some random cool sounding backstory having thing like the first blade. nah. just like the angel blade, but upgraded.

gabriel? sure, why not. not like i can keep track if was supposed to be still dead or whatever. s13-15 like one long reunion tour?

#supernatural #spnwatch #spn 13x13 #eugenie ross-leming #brad buckner

[thecascast]

Goodbye purgatory beard, hello to the woman, the myth, the legend that is Naomi!!! While Ella was taking the screenshots for this one, she wearily said, “This episode is so gay...” Reader. This episode is gay as hell. Additionally, we are very silly on this one. Enjoy!

#the cas cast #supernatural #supernatural podcast #castiel #cas #spn #spn 8x07 #a little slice of kevin #supernatural season 8

[castiellesbian]

Buckner and Leming:

1x13 Route 666

7x05 Shut Up, Dr. Phil

7x13 The Slice Girls

7x19 Of Grave Importance

8x03 Heartache

8x07 A Little Slice of Kevin

8x15 Man's Best Friend with Benefits

8x19 Taxi Driver

9x03 I'm No Angel

9x09 Holy Terror

9x16 Blade Runners

9x21 King of the Damned

10x03 Soul Survivor

10x10 The Hunter Games

10x16 Paint It Black

10x21 Dark Dynasty

11x03 The Bad Seed

11x09 O Brother Where Art Thou?

11x18 Hell's Angel

11x21 All in the Family

12x02 Mamma Mia

12x08 LOTUS

12x13 Family Feud

12x17 The British Invasion

12x21 There's Something About Mary

13x02 The Rising Son

13x07 War of the Worlds

13x13 Devil's Bargain

13x18 Bring 'em Back Alive

13x22 Exodus

14x02 Gods and Monsters

14x07 Unhuman Nature

14x12 Prophet and Loss

14x19 Jack in the Box

15x02 Raising Hell

15x08 Our Father, Who Aren't in Heaven

15x13 Destiny's Child

15x19 Inherit the Earth

Robert Berens:

9x06 Heaven Can't Wait

9x14 Captives

9x19 Alex Annie Alexis Ann

10x07 Girls, Girls, Girls

10x14 The Executioner's Song

10x19 The Werther Project

11x06 Our Little World

11x14 The Vessel

11x17 Red Meat (with Andrew Dabb)

11x22 We Happy Few

12x03 The Foundry

12x07 Rock Never Dies

12x14 The Raid

12x19 The Future (with Meredith Glynn)

12x22 Who We Are

13x03 Patience

13x09 The Bad Place

13x10 Wayward Sisters (with Andrew Dabb)

13x21 Beat the Devil

14x03 The Scar

14x09 The Spear

14x18 Absence

15x03 The Rupture

15x09 The Trap

15x12 Galaxy Brain

15x18 Despair

#polls #writers tournament #supernatural

[dean-isms]

“Yeah, well, there’s times I want to get slapped during sex by a girl wearing a Zorro mask.”

Reference: Zorro

Episode: 11x18 “Hell’s Angel”

Writer: Brad Buckner & Eugenie Ross-Leming

Spoken To: Sam Winchester

Media Type: Television

Timeframe: 1957-1959

Description: Don Diego de la Vega opposes the corrupt tyrants of Spanish California as the masked swordsman, Zorro.

NOTE: I do actually l think it’s more likely that Dean’s referencing one of the later movie remakes: Zorro (1975), The Mask of Zorro (1998), or The Legend of Zorro (2005). But it’s up to you which version you think he’s picturing!

#season eleven #television #from the dean isms spreadsheet