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siennahrobek · 2 years

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I was at work when I was thinking about people’s arguments about Obi-Wan “telling” Luke he had to kill his father and how wrong that was and whatever. Which like, okay, if you don’t think about the implications, about what he means and the underlining of what he’s saying, it does sound terrible. And for a while, I thought people’s opinion on that was whether they thought about how Obi-Wan means that Luke has to be prepared he might have to kill his father because his father will try to kill him (and he did).

But then…

I thought about Obi-Wan during Revenge of the Sith and how he said the same thing. He has the same conversation with Yoda. And I’m sure someone has talked about this or whatever and it’s probably not even my first time talking about it but it’s something I was really thinking about today during my shift.

Obi-Wan tells Yoda he cannot kill Anakin after the master tells him to go face his former apprentice and Yoda tells him he’s gone. Anakin isn’t there anymore. Which is true. People like to say that Anakin went dark side on Mustafar but let’s face it - he was so far gone during the siege of the Temple. He murdered babies and children.

Sure, he could have come back to the light afterwards on Mustafar but honestly, he fell during the siege. It is surprising that people even debate this.

But Obi-Wan tells Yoda that he just can’t do it. And honestly, we find that he’s right. I’m sure most Star Wars fans in this type of discourse know how the Obi-Wan and Anakin duel was choreographed. Obi-Wan is fighting on a defense which, yes, is his specialty, but also he’s trying to wear Anakin out so he can calm down. The choreographer related this to an angry girlfriend and the boyfriend waiting it out.

But when the time comes, Obi-Wan cannot kill Anakin. I’m not here to debate whether or not he should have or whatever. I know there is a lot of mixed feelings about it.

Anyways. Luke says near the same thing when faced with this information as well. And honestly, that’s really hard; I get that. I can’t even imagine being faced with that kind of choice. And he doesn’t even know the extent of the crimes Vader has committed - against the troopers, the Jedi, the galaxy.

I completely understand Luke’s dilemma (even though he’s never really known his father but that’s not really a part of this) but what people seem to overlook is that Obi-Wan was faced with this near exact dilemma. Luke loves his father, even though he’s never known him. Obi-Wan loved Anakin and he actually knew him. It’s not a comparison on love; I’m just making a point.

Obi-Wan was sent to face Anakin/Vader and even though he was on the defensive the entire time trying to buy time for Anakin to chill out, he still had to make the choice - as horrifying as it was - to immobilize him. And in the end, Obi-Wan couldn’t bring himself to kill Anakin.

And guess what? Anakin/Vader spends the next two decades terrorizing the galaxy, hunting down jedi and committing countless murders.

So yeah, Luke is faced with this same dilemma, same choice. And we can argue or talk about why Luke succeeded in saving Anakin and Obi-Wan didnt until we are blue in the face but that’s not the point or the topic I’m talking about. Obi-wan doesn’t want Luke to make the same mistake as him and he knows that Vader will try to kill him, regardless of relation at this time.

And he’s right. Vader does try to kill Luke.

So when Obi-Wan says this-

He knows exactly what he’s talking about. Because the Emperor won the first time when it was Obi-Wan. The Emperor won because Anakin was so crazed and so angry and power hungry, Obi-Wan could neither save him or, in the end, kill him.

There is no reason why Obi-Wan/Ben should think that Vader can/could come back to the light, although we all know he wanted that and so the other way is death. Obi-Wan had failed and the Emperor had won. The galaxy was plunged into horror and darkness. Luke is fighting for it and Obi-Wan doesn’t want Luke to fail like he did. And if you think that Obi-Wan was displeased and unhappy that Vader/Anakin did get saved/came back to the light… then I don’t think you know Obi-Wan or Anakin’s characters very well.

I probably could have a more cohesive and easier to understand thought process and I’m probably missing a ton of what I thought about and points that I made but this is what I have and I thought I’d share it. Interestingly, I find that generally the same people who get mad at Obi-Wan for not making sure Anakin was dead are the same people who seem to be mad at Obi-Wan for telling Luke he very well may have to kill Vader if it comes to that. So, like, I dunno man.

This stuff just kinda makes me sad cause these poor kids with their lives all jacked up.

#thoughts #star wars #obi wan kenobi #obi-wan kenobi #the clone wars #Yoda #Luke Skywalker #original trilogy #pro jedi #as always

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10-porgs-in-a-trenchcoat · 3 years

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thanks to this gorgeous art by @hrtiu I’ve thinking about Thornidala and this AU happened

Thorn doesn’t die on Scipio. Because I said so. He does need some extensive surgery to both his chest and his brain, and parts of his brain need to be replaced with cybernetic implants, but he’s still fit for duty.

after Anakin leaves for the Outer Rim sieges Padme’s left alone and Thorn is escorting her places as part of her security detail and they become buddies

when Padme finds out she’s pregnant Thorn is the only person she tells ... because he caught her puking into a trash can in her office between Senate meetings

she keeps missing opportunities to tell Anakin on the rare occasions they get to talk (she was going to break the news to him during their chat when he was on Anaxes before they got interrupted)

Padme and Thorn continue to bond during this time, and Thorn starts to catch feelings; even though he can’t be with Padme and he can’t ever play a proper fatherly role to the baby, he still feels protective of them

(using singular baby because in ROTS they didn’t know she was having twins until it was time to deliver)

The events of ROTS happen and everything goes to shit. Because Thorn suffered head injuries on Scipio that required extensive surgery and cybernetic implants, his inhibitor chip was unknowingly removed, so when he receives That Order he’s like “um ... what? doesn’t make sense but okay”

instead of going to hunt down Jedi he goes to Padme’s - she’s a Senator after all, and if the Jedi are attempting an overthrow of the Senate she’ll need protection, right?

he sits with her as they watch the Jedi Temple burn and she leans her head on his shoulder and cries kinda like she does in the movie

when she goes to Mustafar Thorn insists on going with her - he doesn’t know everything going on with Anakin but he does know that Mustafar is in Separatist space so he feels duty-bound to go and protect his friend

at first he stays on the ship at Padme’s insistence, but after Anakin chokes her out and starts fighting Obi-Wan he carries her back onboard and sits with her until Obi-Wan returns

Padme may be injured from being Force-choked and heartbroken, but she doesn’t die Because I Said So. She survives childbirth and gets to hold her babies.

Obi-Wan and Bail Organa make arrangements for Padme, Thorn, and the babies to go into hiding.

(Thorn will eventually catch wind that there are some rogue clones running around and that they’re not only avoiding the Empire but actively fighting against them. He’s tempted to go find them but he can’t bring himself to leave Padme or the babies.)

It takes a few years for Padme to reciprocate Thorn’s feelings. Like she catches on that he likes her as more than a friend, but it takes a while for her to address it because she’s grieving the loss of her marriage to Anakin, not to mention busy raising Luke and Leia and helping Bail with the Rebellion on the down-low.

She realizes she likes him back out of the blue one day, when she’s watching him play with the kids and thinking about how good he is with them, how he’s really stepped into the role of Dad, and how he’d been her rock the entire time they’ve been friends.

is she skittish about the prospect of starting another relationship and falling in love again? Of course she is, especially since her husband became a Sith Lord and betrayed everything she held dear ... presumably out of love for her.

(she wouldn’t trade her time with Anakin for anything though, with all its ups and downs, especially since she got two rambunctious little blessings out of it)

(does she know how to broach the subject of the kids’ biological father to them? nope, that’s Future Padme’s problem)

but she does talk with Thorn about how she feels, and they decide to give it a shot

Rebel Spy Power Couple? Rebel Spy Power Couple.

are they thrilled when Leia wants to take a more active role in the Rebellion and Luke wants to train to become a Jedi with Obi-Wan? Not really, it’s dangerous after all (and they’re scared that Luke might go the same way as Anakin) but they still support the kids in their endeavors.

they eventually have to have that uncomfortable conversation about Anakin with the kids after the events on Bespin (Padme is also ready to go bitchslap Vader herself after he cut off Luke’s hand and kidnapped Leia a few times)

Padme and Thorn both make it to the end of the Galactic Civil War, still very much in love, and they sit together under a tree on Endor as they watch the fireworks, the revelry, and Luke and Leia enjoying the company of their friends

(Thorn doesn’t care much for Han, he thinks Leia can do better, but what can he do? Leia’s stubborn and has a mind of her own, just like her mother)

#thornidala #padme amidala #commander thorn #I collect clone rarepairs like Grievous collects lightsabers #clone wars #star wars #my writing

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ilonga · 3 years

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Hi there! :') would love to hear more about drown the temple (aka another ROTS AU, this time (mostly) compliant with the OT)!

hi Ann, thank you so much for the ask!! :D (and oops, this one got long,,)

drown the temple is more or less ROTS just a bit to the left, aka ROTS with more Sabe, no Temple Siege, and more Padme!! It's partially inspired by the au idea I reblogged a while back linked here.

The au starts when Padme's pregnant and Anakin's off on the Outer Rim Sieges, and Sabe comes to help Padme out and stand in for her in the Senate as needed because pregnancy with two very force sensitive twins is rough. Naturally, this means Sabe's in the know about a lot more things in canon, especially regarding the Delegation of 2000, Palpatine's general untrustworthiness, and the relationship between Padme and Anakin (and the existence of Luke and Leia!! Though this comes a bit later, as she respects Padme's wishes to not pry too much into the baby during pregnancy).

The attack on Coruscant and kidnapping of the Chancellor play out the same as canon, but once Anakin comes back he learns pretty quickly that oh, Padme's pregnant, and oh, Sabe from back when she was Queen is here now and also playing decoy for her pretty damn often, so whenever he sees Padme out and about in the Senate or wherever it's about fifty percent as likely to be Sabe standing in - and it's worth noting that over the past few months Padme and Sabe have gotten much, much better at the decoy game then they've ever been before, if only out of desperation. He can tell them apart, of course, because he knows Padme and her force signature extremely well. (For now)

Things then go pretty much the same as the movies, with the nightmares and Council Seat and Delegation of 2000 and General Grievous, until the Chancellor's Office after Anakin's done his whole "NoO don't kill him!" schtick. From here, the dominoes start falling.

Number one - instead of asking Anakin to march on the Temple, Palpatine, knowing that by giving Anakin a Council Seat he's given him much more access to Temple security, tells him to lock down the entire Temple and flood it to the brim instead. Why? Because one, Anakin is supposed to be a mechanical prodigy and Palpatine might as well use that. Two, it's easy enough to explain away the Temple's demise to the Senate as a freak accident, and pin the "betrayal" of the Jedi down on solely the commanding officers in the field. This way, it's far easier to stomach for the more morally inclined Senators, and of even less note to the corrupt ones.

As for the question of aquatic species of Jedi surviving, Palpatine decides that they can't possibly be much of a threat to him and, after all, he'll have his Inquisitors.

So Anakin drowns the Temple. And returns to Padme, as in canon, before heading off to Mustafar. And then Obi-wan gets back, sees the Temple, feels all the death, and realizes there's only one person who could have done this. But when Obi-wan goes back to speak to Padme at her apartment, he speaks to Sabe instead. And he's so distressed (and hadn't been in the loop about Sabe standing in for Padme anyway) that he doesn't realize it's not Padme he's speaking too.

Sabe, who learns from Padme that Anakin is off to Mustafar, decides he's a threat and realizes she can't let him come back to Padme. So she decides to go after him and try to kill him. Obi-wan stows away on her ship, still not realizing she isn't Padme.

And Padme, who's alone at the apartment, goes into labor, winning a shining gold medal for Worst Timing Ever. Sorry, Padme.

But wait, there's more! Remember how Padme is a leading figure in the Delegation of 2000? Aka a major threat to Palpatine? Aka Palpatine who a) does not know that "Padme" is heading to Mustafar and b) has absolutely zero reason to let Padme live (because let's be real, he never had any intention of helping Anakin "save" her either).

So yeah, there's a legion of stormtroopers marching on Padme's apartment, just a little bit after she's finally finished the excruciating process of giving birth with no one but a meddroid and C3PO to help.

She makes her escape with Luke and Leia, thanks to some handy knowledge of passageways, some well-placed shots, and surprisingly decent help from the two droids, though she doesn't quite make it out unscathed (with a few blaster injuries that end up fatal, in fact). She makes it to Bail's apartment with Luke and Leia, asks him to please take care of them and please - if he can - split them up, because she's afraid of what their force sensitivity will mean for them in this new galaxy where the Jedi have been wiped out.

She doesn't make it much longer than that.

Meanwhile on Mustafar, Sabe has tried and failed to kill Anakin, who's so hyped up on Dark Side and Murder Juice that he doesn't actually realize. . . that's Sabe, not Padme. And now he and Obi-wan are dueling. And Sabe is like well, fuck it, I'm out of here. So she takes the ship and aims to get back to the apartment, and once Obi-wan's done his whole chopping Anakin into pieces shebang he ends up having to use Anakin's starfighter to make it off planet, since Sabe's taken the ship and run.

Eventually, Obi-wan and Sabe manage to find their way to Bail's and learn of Padme's fate. . . and the children's. Sabe and Obi-wan eventually agree, though with no shared warmth, that Obi-wan will watch over Luke and take him to Tatooine, and Sabe will watch over Leia on Alderaan. Padme's funeral goes down similarly as in canon, in which it's adjusted to look as if she were still pregnant, and Palpatine never finds out that the kids lived. . . until the OT comes along, of course.

And that's the gist of it!

(ask me about my WIPs!)

#asks #my writing #thanks for the ask!!!#sorry it took so long sdfghjk

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stairset · 6 years

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Since the series finale is coming up I wanna talk about all my absolute favorite Rebels episodes, in the order they aired bc ranking them would be so hard and I'm lazy, and why I love them because I feel like I owe it to a show that's been a huge part of my life for the last few years and was one of the things that got me through the nightmare that is the teenage years.

Rise of the Old Masters: I think every good show has that one great episode early on that just tells you "this is gonna be a good show, we have a plan" and gets you hooked, and I believe this was that episode for Rebels. Spark of Rebellion was a solid start, Droids in Distress and Fighter Flight were slower episodes to help you get to know the characters a bit more, and then this episode is, for lack of a better term, when shit started getting real. Ezra and Kanan's relationship starts developing, the Grand Inquisitor is introduced in person and makes a great first impression, we get some of our first major Clone Wars connections, etc. It also uses Yoda's famous "do or do not" line to deliver a nice message. "I'm not gonna TRY to teach you anymore. If all I do is try, that means I don't truly believe I can succeed, so from now on, I WILL teach you".

Path of the Jedi: Once again, Kanan and Ezra both have a lot of development here, both as a team and as individuals. The crazy visions that Ezra experiences were some of the darkest and most intense things in the show at the time, and Frank Oz guest appearing as Yoda's voice and Ezra finally constructing his own lightsaber are both great crowd pleasing moments. It also happens to be the first appearance of the world between worlds, though neither Ezra or the audience realized it at the time, which just goes to show how far back the writers planned everything out.

Call To Action: Tarkin makes his debut and calls out our other villains on their relative incompetence throughout the season, even going so far as to, erm, make an example of two of them, and succeeds where they have failed, even capturing Kanan in the process. Despite the cliffhanger, it's a bittersweet ending as the crew does succeed in their mission to deliver a message of hope to Lothal and the surrounding systems. This is where the stakes start to raise, and it shows.

Fire Across the Galaxy: Ending the first season with a bang, the crew rescues Kanan on Tarkin's star destroyer above Mustafar, the stolen TIE from Fighter Flight actually ends up being relevant, the Grand Inquisitor is sent off in the perfect way, the crew joins with Pheonix Squadron, giving us our earliest look at the growing rebellion, and of course the moment everyone remembers, the reintroduction to Ahsoka Tano, and her former master not long after. It was the perfect way to end the first season while getting everyone hyped for the next.

The Siege of Lothal: Everyone was absolutely hyped for the season 2 premiere and it did not disappoint. While many worried that Vader would be toned down for the show, he proved to be as threatening as ever, outsmarting our heroes time and again, kicking Kanan and Ezra's asses, and putting his pilot skills to use by taking on the entirety of Pheonix Squadron himself. And of course there's the unforgettable scene where he and Ahsoka sense each other and James Earl Jones delivers the iconic, bone chilling line "the apprentice lives".

Stealth Strike: This episode was just fun, plain and simple. Kanan and Rex's bickering, Ezra's interactions with Sato, it was all hilarious and entertaining. It was sweet seeing Kanan and Rex finally start getting along, and it also happens to be one of the few times Commander Sato played a major role in an episode. Despite Sato's fairly minor role in the show I always liked him, so seeing him in the action with the lead characters was nice.

The Future of the Force: The Inquisitors are after force sensitive children to ensure that they don't grow up to become Jedi, and it's up to Ezra, Kanan, Zeb and Ahsoka to stop them. Kanan, Ezra and Zeb having to get out of the apartment building with the Inquisitors hot on their trail was intense and lead to an entertaining chase through town, and it all culminated in the elic fight between Ahsoka and the Inquisitors where we see her brandish her white lightsabers for the first time. The episode also serves as a bit of a continuation of the Clone Wars season 2 premiere, in which Sidious hires Cad Bane to help carry out a very similar plot.

Legacy: The episode starts off intense with the Empire attacking the Rebels at their current location after Ezra accidentally gave it away in the previous episode, while the rest is much slower, as Ezra follows a trail of force breadcrumbs to Ryder Azadi, from whom he finally learns the tragic fate of his parents. I think I speak for a lot of people when I expected him to reunite with them, so the revelation of their deaths was a bit of a shocker, and Ezra's reaction, his vison of being with them on a better Lothal, and Kanan's statement that they'll live on in him were all beautifully tearjerking.

Shroud of Darkness: Even though this episode basically exists for the purpose of setting up the season finale, it still stands on its own as a fan favorite, and rightfully so. Our Jedi Trio of Ezra, Kanan and Ahsoka see lots of cool, trippy visions in the Lothal temple, including the Grand Inquisitor and the revelation of his backstory, the return of Frank Oz as Yoda (this time face to face), and of course Ahsoka getting confirmation that Vader really is her old master, with Matt Lanter reprising his role. The episode also has a number of iconic shots, including the temple guard avatars surrounding the Inquisitors, Ahsoka seeing Yoda in an homage to The Last Crusade, and Vader entering the Lothal temple at the end to meet with his Inquisitors in person.

Thhe Mystery of Chopper Base: A rather straight forward adventure, featuring the crew having to rescue Rex from some creepy ass spider creatures. Like Stealth Strike, this episode is simply fun. It's got so many great interactions between our main crew. But there's also a lingering feeling of dread throughout because, because you know there gonna be separated soon and that something's gonna go wrong because, well, it's Star Wars. It leads into the season finale perfectly.

Twilight of the Apprentice: We all remember this one. We all remember our exact reactions to everything in it. Maul is introduced, Ezra starts being tempted by the dark side, the Inquisitors are all killed off, Kanan is blided, and of course Ahsoka and Vader have their climactic duel that was built up for the whole season and did not disappoint, and the last minute or so simply showing the aftermath of everything that happened as “It’s All Over” plays is so effective with absolutely no dialogue. Not only that, but, and I’ve said this before, this episode is also the point where all the big parts of the timeline directly come together. In this episode, Rebels, Clone Wars, the prequels, the originals and even the sequels are all directly connected in a way that they never were before, and it’s not until a later episode that they’re all connected on that same level again. This episode, and subsequently the whole show, is the fulcrum of the Star Wars saga.

The Holocrons of Fate: Maul makes his return and has his sights set on both the Sith holocron from Malachor and Kanan’s Jedi holocron so that he can combine their power to learn any knowledge he desires. This leads to our mind-blowing climax in which Maul learns through the light of the holocrons that Obi-wan is still alive and sets off to find him, while Ezra sees a vision of twin suns, also pointing to Obi-wan, albeit in a less direct way. While the whole episode is entertaining the ending is truly what sets its place as one of the best simply because of the epic factor.

The Last Battle: This episode is simply a half hour of pure unadultered Clone Wars nostalgia and I loved every goddamn second of it. Everything from the battle of Christophsis soundtrack to the return of the droid humor from tcw to General Kalani from the Onderon arc being there to the heroes having to team up with the droids thanks to Ezra being the voice of reason and making them realize they were all just pawns for Palpatine and he is their true enemy, and the yellow Clone Wars style title card at the end with the Clone Wars theme playing during the credits, it’s just a giant love letter to the entire Clone Wars fanbase, a thank you for helping the crew get where they are today. It shows how much they truly appreciate their fans, which shouldn’t be a rare thing with content creators but it is.

An Inside Man: I have a sorta complicated relationship with Agent Kallus, who I guess isn’t an agent anymore but that’s beside the point. I don’t like him that much as I feel his redemption arc could’ve been handled much better and he could’ve done more to earn it, which I’ve talked about before. Yet despite this, I love not only this episode but another Kallus centered episode later on that I’ll get to. This whole episode is intense and excited. Mister Sumar, a minor character from season 1, is reintroduced only to be brutally killed by Thrawn, seeting the stakes for the episode, and establishing Thrawn as an effective villain. While Thrawn’s episodes before this one were more about him simply studying the heroes from behind the scenes, this is the point where he starts taking direct action against the heroes, and does it damn well. He figures out all their tricks that all the Imperials before him overlooked, and Kanan and Ezra only barely get out.

Visions and Voices: Maul returns once again to finish his mind connection with Ezra, leading to the return to Dathomir where the ghosts of the Nightsisters serve as the Guest Appearance Of The Week and posess Kanan and Sabine in rather creepy ways, Ezra also discovers Obi-wan is alive while Maul finds out where he’s hiding, and of course Sabine gets her hands on the darksaber. Like Shroud of Darkness this episode exists just to set up a climactic fight in a later episode, but still stands on it’s own.

Trials of the Darksaber/Legacy of Mandalore: I put these together because they’re basically a two-parter and because I love them for largely the same reasons. These were the first Sabine episodes where she finally got some real, major development as a character. Previous Sabine centered episode seemed to all follow the pattern of “have some dialogue hinting at her backstory that we give away in the sneak peeks then no other answers” and it was frustrating because beyond that those episodes were solid episode, but the way they kept promoting them to be bigger than they were did effect my enjoyment of them at the time. These episode finally resolve that problem and give us payoff to all those hints, and boy was that payoff satisfying. We get the backstory of the darksaber, Sabine training, we’re finally introduced to her family, and the final battle between Sabine and Gar Saxon is simply epic.

Through Imperial Eyes: This is the other Kallus episode that I love despite my “meh” opinion of the character. The banter between Kallus and Ezra is very entertaining to watch, Kallus’s plan for framing Liste as the traitor to keep his cover is very clever, though obviously not clever enough to fool Thrawn, who once again proves to be a great villain and shows that he can hold his own in a physical fight, and of course Yularen appearing was cool.

Twin Suns: The long awaited final showdown between Obi-wan and Maul, who actually finally dies for good, like is really, seriously, legit, for real, in actuality, finally permanently dead, deceased, lifeless, killed, devoid of life, sleeping with the fishes, an ex-person. At first I was in the crowd of people who were like “what the fuck” at how quick he went out, but in analysis I wouldn’t have it any other way. It shows how much Obi-wan has wisened over the years whereas Maul never learned, never changed, and tried the same thing he did on Qui-Gon, and it proved to be his final downfall. The way Obi-wan holds Maul’s body in his arms the same way he did with both Qui-Gon and Satine so many years before, and shows sadness and pity that it couldn’t have turned out differently is absolutely beautiful and heartbreaking. The cartoons made Maul such an interesting character, and cemented him as one of my favorite villains, and I couldn’t ask for a better conclusion to this decades old rivalry.

Zero Hour: While not as mind blowing as the previous season’s finale, Zero Hour is still and intense and action packed way to conclude the season. We see the end of Pheonix Squadron and the beginnings of then true Rebel Alliance, Sato gets an epic and heroic send off, the fight in space with Ezra and the Mandos is epic, the Bendu gives us a glimpse of his true power, and Thrawn is as great a villain as ever. The whole thing is simply epic.

In The Name of the Rebellion: We finally saw the Rebel Alliance on Yavin 4 in all its glory, Saw makes a return and, as I said when the episodes first aired, I believe the Moral Ambiguity with his character, while still not perfect, was handled better here than in Ghosts of Geonosis, but i don’t feel like repeating myself so just look the post up if you haven’t read it already. Anyway Saw’s interactions with Ezra and Sabine were a lot of fun to watch, like if we’re still giving everyone space fmaily nicknames then Saw is like the slightly crazed but still kinda cool uncle in this episode. All the connections to Rogue One were a ton of fun to piece together, and it was great to finally see a giant kyber crystal that’s actually fully animated. Also Jennifer Hale was in it so that’s pretty neat.

Flight of the Defender: A very simple and straight forward episode. Ezra and Sabine steal the TIE defender prototype, they crash it and hide the hyperdrive, we meet the white lothwolf who helps them get back to their friends. I can’t even really explain why I like this one so much tbh, but I do.

Jedi Night/DUMJE: We all know why these episodes are here. I couldn’t ask for a more epic and heartbreaking send off for Kanan’s character, and I’m glad that they dedicated the entire following episode to showing how the rest of the cast deals with their grief in different way rather than glossing over it and immediately moving on to the Mortis stuff. It’s surprisingly rare for characters to get to properly grieve in this franchise despite death being so common. Obi-wan, Galen, Han, Luke, the entire population of Alderaan, the other characters have to get over these things pretty quickly so it’s nice to see a more realistic aftermath for once.

Wolves and a Door/A World Between Worlds: I’ve made my thoughts on these episodes very clear since they aired on Monday, which is that they are quite possibly the most mind blowing thing I’ve watched in a very long time. The connections to Mortis and callbacks to all the movies and to Clone Wars, the voices in the background, the beautifully animated moving pictures, the return of Ahsoka and the revelation of what happened to her, Sidious making his debute with Ian McDiarmid himself providing the voice, it’s all incredible to watch. Like I said about Twilight of the Apprentice, this episode is one of the few times where we get an idea of just how connected everything really is, that it’s all one big story. No wonder the two episodes are also so tightly connected to each other, they truly are where all the parts of the saga come together in ways they never could otherwise.

#this is quite possibly the longest post ive ever made im just. so passionate about this show ok #its so important to me i just had to make a big huge analysis about why i love it so much #im gonna miss it so much but im glad its gonna get the proper ending it deserves #instead of getting canned while still in its prime like tcw #star wars rebels #shut up tristan

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theabominableblogger · 6 years

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Rewatching “Revenge of the Sith”

Ohhhh yeahhh, I’m going there.

My apologies in advance because this post is so long...

*silently boogies out to 20th Century Fox jingle and ends up throwing popcorn everywhere*

*mouths along to opening theme*

WAR!

“Evil is everywhere.” Dude, this is Star Wars we’re talking about...

Just a heads up, I am so freaking glad that we have The Clone Wars because honestly, it has a lot more flowing character development when it comes from jumping from “Attack of the Clones” to this movie, especially Anakin.

Lens flare!

Holy snot how many Republic ships are there?!? Did the Separatists come with every single ship imaginable? Is that why?

Aaaaand that’s a dead body.

The hell are those things?

“Nothing too fancy.” Says the man [Obi-Wan] who dramatically drops his robes whenever possible.

*imitates the buzz droids*

“IN THE NAME OF-” Finish the sentence, Obi-Wan!

R2′s taser thingy looks like the Twelfth Doctor’s sonic screwdriver.

What if they didn’t notice the shield in time?

Boom! End of saga. Cue end credits music.

Ohhhh this asshole.

WHAAAATTT’SS THE SITUATION, CAPTAINNNN???

*imitates the droids saying “Roger roger”*

How come Anakin and Obi-Wan aren’t getting jostled around when the elevator car first stops?

*quotes the entire “No loose wire jokes” conversation in the elevator*

Is that the same freaking chair that’s gonna pop up in “Return of the Jedi?”

Anakin and Obi-Wan fight Dooku but every time their lightsabers clash, it’s Obi-Wan going “Hello there”

Did Dooku just backwards kick Anakin away? Oh my God...

DEW IT

*Anakin kills Count Dooku* Well done, prequels. You done didn’t use your Christopher Lee effectively enough.

ALL BATTERIES FIRE, FIRE!

Wilhelm Scream!

*imitates droid saying “Reversing stabilizers...”*

Holy crap, you can actually see Grievous’s face kind of twitching with anger when he commands the droids to level out the ship. Dang.

Freaking Obi-Wan’s little yell of horror when he wakes up...

*ugly cackles*

*quotes the entire ray shields scene*

I cannot freaking believe that the TV show took the time to make freaking sure that Anakin never met Grievous until this movie.

Actually, yes I can. They have a goddamn script continuity department.

How come one of them didn’t take one of the electrostaffs?

The Separatist flagship just tore in half when it entered the atmosphere and yet I remain completely unfazed.

“8 plus 16...” Pfftt, what the heck does that mean?

Guys, I think I found the origin for the Dramatic Hair Flop of Angst in TCW

Pretty sure that’s the Millenium Falcon at the bottom hangar

“Oh, I’m not brave enough for politics.” *cough cough*

Obi-Wan gets a whole freaking bus to himself. Chaos will ensue.

How has no one noticed Padme just hanging out next to one of the pillars?

“There were whispers... that you [Anakin] had been killed...” Really?

Anakin’s reaction to Padme telling him that she’s pregnant is actually really good.

Wasn’t there like a deleted interaction where Anakin first accused Padme of sleeping with someone else while he was gone but then they decided that was not that great of an idea?

The music that plays when Grievous exits the shuttle is pretty sweet

*imitates Grievous saying “Yes, Lord Sidious?”*

*claps with each word* This is not how you write romance, [George] Lucas!

Oh I didn’t realize that you could actually hear Anakin’s robotic arm move when he puts his face in his hands

“How long is it gonna take before we start being honest with each other?” You [Padme] should have asked that before you two got hitched in the first place.

Ladies and gentlemen, the absolute worst therapy lesson in the history of Star Wars: Yoda telling Anakin to basically get over himself and accept the sudden, incoming death of the people he loves.

“What must I do, Master Yoda?” MOTHEREFFING IGNORE HIM!

“Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose.” NOOO, OH MY GOD...

There’s actually a whole video by Pop Culture Detective that went into detail how terrible the Jedi Council were when it came to giving Anakin emotional support.

“Be careful of your friend Palpatine.” And your pal, Friend-patine.

I just noticed that there are less chairs in the Jedi Council room

“The Council doesn’t like it when he [Palpatine] interferes with Jedi affairs.” Then why the heck don’t they confront Palpatine about it?

Holy crap, I just realized that this movie came out 13 years ago.

“Hold me, like you did by the lake on Naboo...” Was that really “holding” though?

Anakin’s delivery of “At last!” sounds like Darth Maul when he said “At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi” in the first movie.

This entire opera scene should be a dead give away to Anakin learning about Palpatine being the Sith Lord. The minute Palpatine even said the word “Sith” should have raised a few red flags...

This entire Darth Plaguesis explanation is so good and ominous. Just the minute Palpatine finishes the story and tells Anakin that there are other ways to gain that sort of power, you can just gradually feel the dread setting in for the rest of the movie. You just know something bad is gonna happen (besides Anakin becoming Darth Vader)...

Look at the way Obi-Wan’s sitting in his chair!

Oh my God... the Wookies just did a Tarzan yell...

Headcanon: he’s [Anakin] checking for updates about the Siege of Mandalore

OK, everyone craps on the Utapau storyline with the fight scene between Obi-Wan and Grievous but I actually think this is one of the best parts in the movie.

I love the design for the Pau’ans

GUYSSS I LOVE BOGA SO MUCH YOU HAVE NO IDEA!!!

Someone get me a plush animal of her on my desk pronto!

HELLO THERE!

GENERAL KENOBIII... YOU ARE A BOLD ONE...

That pose though!

That spinning helicopter move Grievous does while stalking toward Obi-Wan was always really cool to me. A little extra, but still cool.

ARMY OR NOT... YOU MUST REALIZE... YOU ARE DOOMED!

Oh I don’t think so!

*imitates Obi-Wan using the Force to throw Grievous*

Wait, so how many times has Cody had to hold onto Obi-Wan’s lightsaber when Obi-Wan freaking drops it?

Death Star plans?

Big question: so how old is Anakin here? He’s 19/20 in “Attack of the Clones” and there’s at least a one or two year time jump in S3 of TCW.

Yo, that means he was like late 30s/early 40s when he died in “Return of the Jedi.” Well shoot, man...

Yeah, Obi-Wan, let’s freaking kick the crazy homicidal cyborg. Great idea.

Is Grievous just covered in gasoline or something because he just went up in flames *snaps* just like that.

Ohhhh this scene with Anakin and Padme looking at the windows of their respective places is really good...

Look at freaking Anakin here!

George Lucas deserves any and all sins for the bad dialogue for Anakin because Hayden Christensen can really act when he’s not given any dialogue and he’s just told to react.

So, with that, henceforth, there shall be no dissing Hayden Christensen on my blog.

I AM THE SENATE!

Dramatic window break!

Palpatine’s lightsaber just freaking deactivated as soon as Windu kicked it out the window

Wowwww... the prosthetics on Palpatine look.. bad....

UNLIMITED.... POOWEEERRRRR!!!

I just realized that Anakin kind of walks over to Palpatine on his knees before he pledges himself to Palpatine

Why Darth “Vader” though? Is there any special reasoning for that?

AN: Holy crap, there’s an hour left and Anakin has just turned to the Dark Side...

Pfftttt....

THESE SHOTS THOUGH

Man, I need to download more tracks from this soundtrack...

You can tell that that’s green screen behind Cody

*in best Palpatine impression* Execute Order 66!

Nooooooooooooo, Boga!

Aaaaand everyone dies and it sucks now!

Ughh, Aayla Secura...

NOOOOOOOOOO PLO KOONN!

What planet is that?

Here’s my question: in Rebels, how the heck did Thrawn get Gree’s helmet? Was there an imperial campaign out on Kashyyyk and he found it somewhere?

That small matte painting shot of the Jedi Temple burning is actually really pretty now that I see it again

Yooooo can we talk about this padawan though?

Kashyyyk has twin moons...

So what happens to Chewie after this and before the Han Solo movie?

Heeeyyyyyyy I know that kind of ship!

“Have faith, my love [Padme]...” Uhhhh... Padme should have picked up on how... off that line was

How has NO ONE in the Senate (besides Organa and probably Mon Mothma) picked up on Padme’s pregnancy?

*imitates Palpatine* Mustafaaarrrrr....

“Could be a trap.” It’s Star Wars. There’s always a trap.

What’s that planet right next to Mustafar?

Random xylophone scales!

Yoda is taking no prisoners!

Where are the lightsaber/balster holes in the younglings? Yoda said that they were probably killed by lightsaber so where are the marks on their bodies?

Yellow eyes...

“So this is how liberty dies: with thunderous applause.” Best. line. Ever. Someone send flowers and chocolates to Natalie Portman.

“I've recalibrated the code, warning all surviving Jedi to stay away.” Aaaagghh and we see it in Rebels and in the Last Padawan comic!

Don’t mind me casually dying

I just noticed that gradually throughout this movie, you can see Obi-Wan get grey hairs in his sideburns

*Obi-Wan sneaks onto Padme’s ship to Mustafar* Where did he come from?!?

“You [Darth Vader] have restored peace and balance to the galaxy.” *in best Anakin voice* OK... now what?

“And together, you [Padme] and I [Anakin] can rule the galaxy! We can make things the way we want them to be!” Wow, “The Last Jedi” is just smackin’ me in the face right now

Anakin... you’re breaking my heart!

That is just extremely bad timing on Obi-Wan’s part

YOU HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELF!

Your new Empire?!?

DEMOCRACY!

“Only a Sith deals in absolutes.” A what?

That’s a pretty nasty lisp you have there. Might wanna do something about that.

You know how this Yoda vs. Palpatine fight could be more amazing? Just add helium

Honestly, for the BIG DEAL fight between Anakin and Obi-Wan, it just goes on for a little bit too long.

Plus when it’s intercut with the Yoda vs. Palpatine, the latter is way more entertaining (hello, two most powerful peope going head to head with actual Force lightning being involved?)

Are they [Anakin and Obi-Wan] just kicking each other with the Force now? Wow...

NOT EVEN HITTING EACH OTHER!

Seriously, they’re just banging their lightsabers together and calling that a fight. C’mon... actually try to hit the opponent!

Duel of the Fates!

*Palpatine throws the Senate chairs at Yoda with the Force* So I threw the Senate at him!

Honestly, you could cut out this whole balance thing on the sinking balcony and mining buildings/walkways

Commander Fox?

ExPLOsions...

Noooo... cut this out...

“Into exile, I [Yoda] must go. Failed, I have.” And yet people complain about Luke doing the exact same thing in the sequel trilogy

You’re not even trying to hit each other!

FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE JEDI ARE EVIL!

IT’S OVER, ANAKIN! I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND!

YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE!

“You were my brother, Anakin. I loved you.” Uuuggghhhh....

I actually read somewhere that Ewan McGregor actually asked George Lucas to change the line to past tense instead of the original present tense. Which is sad, so thanks Ewan.

Can’t you just put out the fire with the Force?

How did 3PO and R2 get an unconscious Padme on board?

Where is this?

*Palpatine’s shuttle lands in Coruscant* It was a dark and stormy night...

Y’know, at this point, me comparing Anakin being repaired and transformed into Darth Vader and the creation of Frakenstein’s monster is almost inevitable at this point...

Stupid question, but what’s the significance of the names “Luke” and “Leia” concerning the themes present in the movies? Or is that up to people like me who enjoy the meta to find that out?

He [Darth Vader] just killed that medical droid next to him...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

Do not want....

“...[Qui Gon] learned the path to immortality...” In the TV show!

I like how the last line in this freaking movie is “Oh no!” and it’s from 3PO...

Triceratops rams!

The design for Padme’s funeral garb is actually Iain McCaig’s favorite concept art

How did they develop TIE fighters so quickly?

Oh my God, the dude they got to play Tarkin... oh God...

Definitely not Peter Cushing

*gasp* Leia’s theme!

Random eopie noise!

Oh my God, “Binary Suns”...

Obi-Wan’s like “Great, now I gotta help a pair of random, separate Force-sensitive teenagers and their astromechs in the near future...”

Wait, they put Ewan McGregor in top billing?

“With Samuel L. Jackson as Mace Windu” Thamuel El Jackthson!

Holy crap, I forgot Joel Edgerton plays young Uncle Owen

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Dark Lord - The Rise of Darth Vader: Star Wars - James Luceno

Dark Lord - The Rise of Darth Vader: Star Wars James Luceno Genre: Science Fiction Price: $4.99 Publish Date: June 27, 2006 Publisher: Random House Publishing Group Seller: Penguin Random House LLC Throughout the galaxy, it was believed that Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker–the Chosen One–had died on Coruscant during the siege of the Jedi Temple. And, to some extent, that was true. Anakin was dead. From the site of Anakin Skywalker’s last stand–on the molten surface of the planet Mustafar, where he sought to destroy his friend and former master, Obi-Wan Kenobi–a fearsome specter in black has risen. Once the most powerful Knight ever known to the Jedi Order, he is now a disciple of the dark side, a lord of the dreaded Sith, and the avenging right hand of the galaxy’s ruthless new Emperor. Seduced, deranged, and destroyed by the machinations of the Dark Lord Sidious, Anakin Skywalker is dead . . . and Darth Vader lives. Word of the events that created him–the Jedi Council’s failed mutiny against Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, the self-crowned Emperor’s retaliatory command to exterminate the Jedi Order, and Anakin’s massacre of his comrades and Masters in the Jedi Temple–has yet to reach all quarters. On the Outer Rim world of Murkhana, Jedi Masters Roan Shryne and Bol Chatak and Padawan Olee Starstone are leading a charge on a Separatist stronghold, unaware that the tide, red with Jedi blood, has turned suddenly against them. When the three narrowly elude execution–and become the desperate prey in a hunt across space–it’s neither clone soldiers, nor the newly deployed stormtroopers, nor even the wrath of the power-hungry Emperor himself they must fear most. The deadliest threat rests in the hideously swift and lethal crimson lightsaber of Darth Vader–behind whose brooding mask lies a shattered heart, a poisoned soul, and a cunning, twisted mind hell-bent on vengeance. For the handful of scattered Jedi, survival is imperative if the light side of the Force is to be protected and the galaxy somehow, someday reclaimed. Yet more important still is the well-being of the twin infants, Leia and Luke Skywalker, the children of Anakin and his doomed bride, Padmé Amidala. Separated after Padmé’s death, they must be made safe at all costs, lest the hope they represent for the future be turned to horror by the new Sith regime–and the unspeakable power of the dark side. Features a bonus section following the novel that includes a primer on the Star Wars expanded universe, and over half a dozen excerpts from some of the most popular Star Wars books of the last thirty years! http://bit.ly/2LO2W46

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Padmé Naberrie on the bountiful planet of Naboo in 46 BBY. She was the younger daughter of Ruwee and Jobal Naberrie, and the sister of Sola Naberrie. Her father, Ruwee Naberrie, was a friend of Senator Onaconda Farr – whom she often called “Uncle Ono”, he represented the solar system of Rodia in the Senate of the Galactic Republic.

Although her parents were of modest origins, Padmé was identified as a gifted and brilliant young girl at an early age. As a child, she devoted herself to public service, joining the Apprentice Legislators at the tender age of eight, and she eventually became a junior senatorial adviser. At age twelve, Padmé participated in the Legislative Youth Program, in which she met a slightly older boy named Palo Jemabie. The two fell in love, but their relationship did not last, as they parted ways when Palo left politics and chose to become an artist. Not allowing a broken relationship hold her back, she started a two-year mandate as supervisor of Theed, the capital city of Naboo.

Two years later, Padmé Naberrie was elected Queen of Naboo, and she adopted Amidala as her name in office. When in danger, Padmé would disguise herself as one of her staff of five loyal handmaidens and would introduce herself as "Padmé" while her decoy Sabé assumed the persona of Queen Amidala. Although she was not the youngest sovereign ever elected, she would later question her own maturity at the time of her election.

Shortly after her election, the young queen was faced with a major crisis when the Trade Federation decided to lay siege to her home planet. The Federation's devious leader, Viceroy Nute Gunray, intended to force her to sign a treaty that would legitimize the invasion in the eyes of the Galactic Republic. However, Amidala refused to submit to the Federation. Amidala was rescued in the eleventh hour by two Jedi, Qui-Gon Jinn and his apprentice Obi-Wan Kenobi (both of whom had been charged with negotiating a truce with the Trade Federation). Padmé worked hard despite the perils to save her homeworld with the help of her Jedi Saviors (one who sadly lost his life), and of a boy named Ani. With peace resorted she returned home to her role as Queen.

At the conclusion of her two terms as queen, Padmé stepped aside for her elected successor, Queen Jamillia. In the time of her rule, the Naboo had grown so fond of Amidala that there was widespread talk that the constitution should be amended to allow her another term. Padmé declined this, however, since popular rule was not democratic and she was relieved to have done her part. Not long after her coronation, Queen Jamillia asked Padmé to serve as Naboo's representative in the Galactic Senate, a request that she ultimately accepted.

Ten years after the Invasion of Naboo, former Jedi Count Dooku became the public face of a Confederacy of Independent Systems that had withdrawn from the Republic in opposition to the corruption they believed had enveloped the Senate. In response to the threat posed by this Separatist Alliance, the Republic Senate debated the proposed Military Creation Act that would allow Supreme Chancellor Palpatine to formally commission a Grand Army of the Republic. During this time, Senator Padmé became a member of the Chancellor's Loyalist Committee and was regarded as the leader of the opposition to the Military Creation Act.

On the eve of the vote in the Senate over the Military Creation Act, Senator Padmé arrived on Coruscant. Upon landing, her cruiser was hit in an assassination attempt by bounty hunter Zam Wesell, who had been hired to kill her by Jango Fett, himself under the employee of Count Dooku. The explosion killed several of her guards as well as Padmé’s double, Cordé. At the request of Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, the Jedi Council assigned Jedi Knights Obi-Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker to protect Padmé and investigate the incident, though she objected to the added security.

In the aftermath of continued attacks, Padmé was convinced to leave Coruscant and to return to Naboo. While Skywalker went with her to continue protecting her, Kenobi continued the investigation into the assassination attempts. Upon arriving on Naboo, Padmé and Skywalker grew closer in their relationship and Skywalker told her of his love for her, though both agreed to forgo pursuing a more romantic relationship due to Skywalker’s commitment to the Jedi Order. While on Naboo, Skywalker started experiencing Force visions of his mother in danger. Convinced he had to save her, he determined to travel to Tatooine. Padmé travelled with him and despite his attempts to save his mother, they had been too late. She did what she could to comfort him, the pair returning to Naboo.

Requesting that Skywalker relay his message to Coruscant, Kenobi informed the Jedi and the Senate what he had discovered, just before he was captured. The Jedi decided to send an assault team, while Skywalker was ordered to stay with Padmé. Torn over the desire to rescue his master but yet also protect the senator, Padmé came to the decision to help Skywalker by travelling to Geonosis, forcing Skywalker to accompany her. However, their rescue was a failure and they were captured. Before they were led to the arena to be executed, she confessed her love for Skywalker, reasoning that there was no point in denying it before they died.

The execution was to be carried out by several creatures brought into the arena, as they were released and attacked, Jedi Master Mace Windu arrived and the Jedi revealed themselves. A full out battle erupted, and despite her injuries, Padmé fought side-by-side with the Jedi. After the battle, Skywalker and Padmé returned to Naboo where they were secretly married. Padmé continued her work as a senator as the war begun to pick up between the Republic and the Imperials, evening putting her marriage to the side as she focused on the people before herself. As the Outer Rim Sieges raged on, Padmé had fewer opportunities to see her husband. Despite this, she did eventually become pregnant. This news, while exciting for both parents, placed them in a bind as it threatened to reveal their marriage.

Padmé also became increasingly concerned with the events of the war and power held by Palpatine and the increasing rift this was causing between herself and Skywalker. Due to her concern, Padmé then joined a group of senators that were wary of Palpatine's policies and discussed ways of stopping him.

After events begun to fall into place, news of Order 66 reached Padmé. Knowing that her husband was in the Temple, she watched fearfully and horror-stricken from her apartment as the Jedi Temple burned. When Skywalker arrived at her apartment unharmed, he informed her that the Jedi had become traitors but that his loyalties stayed with the chancellor. With her husband safe, Padmé attended a meeting of the Senate where the chancellor declared the formation of the Galactic Empire and himself as Emperor. Whilst thousands of her colleagues applauded, she was despondent; she remarked, with tears in her eyes, that this was "how liberty dies, with thunderous applause".

Padmé retreated to her quarters as she attempted to plan her next move, knowing that everything was starting to crumble. She was surprised when Obi-Wan Kenobi arrived, revealing to her that her husband had turned to the dark side and that he needed her help in stopping him. Padmé refused, not wanting to believe it was true. It was after he left that she pieced things together, going her starship as she left Coruscant for Mustafar to meet with Anakin. Upon her arrival, she was horrified to find that Obi-Wan had been correct: her husband had succumbed fully to the dark side and was now the Sith Lord Darth Vader.

She tried to convince him to simply leave and help raise their child, but he instead went on an intense speech of how he could overthrow the Emperor and they could rule the galaxy together. Now sobbing with fear and horror, Padmé backed away from the man who wore her husband's face but no longer seemed to be him and implored that he was breaking her heart. Unbeknownst to Amidala, Obi-Wan had stowed away on her ship knowing she would go to verify the truth of his claims, but this proved to be fatal for her. Under the impression that his wife had turned against him and brought the Jedi to kill him, Vader seized her with the Force and began to choke her. After one more desperate plea, Vader released her and she fell unconscious.

Padmé’s body began to shut down despite the efforts of the medics to save her, the only explanation given that she had given up the will to live. However, she held on long enough to give birth to twins, whom she named as Luke and Leia. Despite all this, Padmé still believed that Skywalker held some good in him, a belief she shared with Kenobi before she died. Following her death, she was returned to Naboo so she could be laid to rest. Her funeral was attended by hundreds of people who mourned the loss of their beloved Senator and former Queen.

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