#fandom discourse --

[daisysmalia]

The urge to gatekeep Lou from 9-1-1 twitter is so strong. They won’t stop misinterpreting his words to push their own theories. They only started being nice to him when he said stuff about their ship, and it’s pretty clear he’s only saying that stuff because otherwise they’ll go back to hating/he’s responding to paid cameos. In literally the same stuff they think he’s saying Tommy is the stepping stone, he’s also literally trying to get them to put their ship aside and enjoy BuckTommy. Like how is this being missed lmao? His answer about buddie was the same as Oliver’s. That they don’t know. No one knows at this point.

#lou ferrigno jr #fandom discourse #sorry I’m just pissed off and in a mood today #and feeling petty #NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN #NOT EVEN TIM YET #and like it’s clear in interviews rn oliver is trying do dissuade a bit against buddie #like yeah he’s saying he’s open to it but then everyone is convieniently ignoring what he says right after and it’s happened in two now! #Leah rambles #BuckTommy

[captain-hen]

i'm sorry but this fandom acting like everything they didn't personally like about s5/s6 was kristen being Out To Get Them because she just really hated the fans or was homophobic or whatever—nevermind the fact that we got more screentime for henren than ever before, including a begins episode under her. please get a life and learn how to be normal about women lol.

#and they're STILL blaming her for shit they don't like about s7 although tim is unquestionably in charge! #just say you hate women and don't ever want to blame a man and go #neethu speaks #fandom discourse

[themotherofhorses]

Hi guys, it's Vic! Also known as:

Round TWO at addressing the extreme racism in the CoD fandom!

So it’s both odd and funny that my Indigenous fem!OC has pissed off so many random people, especially with the fact that I created her to ship with Ghost.

(A fictional character that has NO canon love interest, FYI. Sorry to bust y'all's little bubble. Well, there's Mara and Urban Tracker....)

Anyways, I really don't care if this post sounds bitchy in nature. I really don't, not anymore. Some of y'all need a damn wakeup call. Several months ago, in December of 2023, I made a post (here) regarding the sudden influx of hate I began receiving following the posting of my OC, SilentDove Reyes. For around two weeks after that post, the hate died down, and I felt motivated to create more content involving Dove and Ghost.

Until the hate picked up again with every little thing I posted that related to my OC x Ghost.

However....this new hate incorporated the MMIW. A bold ass move, in my opinion.

If you are not aware, the MMIW stands for "Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women." Alternate spellings include the MMIWG & MMIWGTS (Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women, Girls, and Two-Spirits). As of 2023, statistics indicate that Indigenous women face a 10x murder rate than any other race/ethnicity. I have made a previous post regarding the issue, seen here. The unfortunate truth is that young Indigenous girls are more likely to be SA'd and murdered than to attend college. Let that sink in for a moment.

Now, I am an Indigenous woman. That is no surprise there; I fashioned my OC to provide myself (and, by extension, others) with Native representation in a franchise I greatly enjoy. What IS surprising, however, is that me doing so has pissed off so many people. I'm very certain some of y'all must descend from Andrew Jackson, or John Wayne cause, christ on a bike driven by a pike.

Here is a screenshot of a hate anon I recently received:

Listen, I don't care who you ship Ghost with. I really don't. I've blocked numerous shipping tags, remained mindful of the content I'm interacting with, and surrounded myself with fellow mutuals who also have personal OCs. It is really that easy.

What I do care about is the fact that some of you CANNOT separate fanon headcanons from canon material.

Exhibit A:

So let’s clear some stuff up!

Soap x Ghost is NOT canon.

Ghost being queer is NOT canon.

And, most definitely, Ghost being a woman abuser who would harm/abuse/murder a woman (either physically, emotionally, psychologically) is NOT canon.

What IS canon is his and Soap's strong bond. In my eyes, that is a brotherly bond, reminding me of a big brother/little brother relationship; in my fanfiction, Soap is Ghost's children's uncle. In fact, his son (second-born child) is named after him.

You are, of course, free to view them as romantic; what you are not free to do is attack OC creators/non-shippers for not perceiving them like that.

That is just fucking weird and delusional behavior. Knock it off. You're giving your fellow normal shippers a bad name.

ALSO! Let’s clear things up!

1. I’m not straight — I’m bisexual and demisexual.

2. I’m only half white (Spanish, with Mexican heritage). I’m QUITE LITERALLY an enrolled Native, so I guess the best way to describe me is “biracial.”

3. It’s y’all ruining the canon gay representation by shipping Laswell—a GAY woman—with Price, despite the fact that she canonically has a wife.

4. My OC does not have a “dumb fucking name.” Her name is an Indigenous name with a specific backstory to it; it’ll be explored further in future fanfics once I find the motivation to return to writing.

Anyways, I highly doubt this will be the last post I create regarding this problem; apparently, a nice chunk of the fandom has this intense animosity towards fem!OCs, fem!Y/Ns, and BIPOC!OC creators. Alright. With that being said, I invite anyone who has similar experiences to share yours, either in the reblogs or in separate posts.

As sometimes we say during pow wows:

“The floor is all yours.”

Thank you!

#vic talks #fandom psa #fandom discourse #call of duty #call of duty modern warfare #cod fandom #call of duty fanfiction #cod mw #cod mw2 #cod mw3 #cod simon ghost riley #cod simon riley #simon ghost riley #simon riley #cod ghost #ghost #cod oc #call of duty oc #orginal character

[theweeklydiscourse]

I just have to laugh at readers who claim that the Darkling was Zoya’s abuser. The text and the Netflix adaptation does the barest possible minimum to allude to such an idea and then these fans proceed to reframe the shoddy writing and praise for it’s “brilliant” commentary.

Bardugo and the Netflix writers could’ve done that (with proper planning and thoughtfulness) but it’s obvious that they couldn’t be bothered to put the effort in. Sorry- Zoya’s just not all that interesting and cramming in some subtext about how she was supposedly the Darkling’s victim is pure fanfiction. Particularly when even in the show, we see Zoya pursuing him of her own volition and that relationship is never meaningfully explored or elaborated on after the fact.

#lol they literally just made Zoya into his side piece (sorry but it’s true) it’s all as shallow as it seems #What I’m saying is that I don’t think that the text has enough evidence to support such an interpretation and it all just seems like a grasp #for Zoya to have at least SOME shred of meaning in a series where she’s so….bland and irritating #shadow and bone #the darkling #lb critical #grishaverse #s&b critical #anti leigh bardugo #aleksander morovoza #fandom discourse #grishaverse fandom #anti zoya

[controversialhpmemes]

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[curiositysavesthecat]

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[phantasm-masquerade]

reblog for a bigger sample size if you feel like it

#hibiki//discourse #fandom culture #canon vs fanon #fanonization #polls #i love polls #fandom discourse #fandom bs

[webshood]

not gonna elaborate it rn, but people diminishing Jason's experience with homelessness, malnourishment, childhood abuse and neglect, because he got adopted by a billionaire while also hcning Tim Drake to be abused and starved by his wealthy parents is rooted in racism and classism

#jason todd #dc comics #red hood #batfam #tim drake #don't even get me started on the latino jason/asian tim agenda #fandom discourse

[braxiatel]

I think the best solution to the “Grian fans making everything about Grian” complaint isn’t to shame the Grian fans but rather that the rest of us who have other faves should simply become more abnormal about them

#/lh /I know it’s complex #hermitcraft #secret life #hermitblr #trafficblr #fandom discourse #not badly but just in case #the void collection

[kimkhimhant]

to reiterate: an autistic fan headcanoning a character they like and relate to as being autistic is not armchair diagnosing anyone and is not harming anyone. it is not an insult for a character to be headcanoned as autistic, it is not the fan claiming their experience as being the only autistic experience, it is not claiming that there cannot be other interpretations.

an autistic person seeing a character's traits as similar to their own and finding comfort in that is not an insult to that character or to other fans.

an autistic fan headcanoning their favorite character as autistic is not a personal attack against you and your experiences and preferences

it feels incredibly ableist and dismissive to tell autistic fans that headcanoning a character as autistic is Problematic. Autism is not an insult.

#people having character headcanons that are different from yours is not an attack against you or your headcanons #benji talks #kinnporsche #kpts #kim theerapanyakul #fandom discourse #i'm sorry for continuing to post about this but it is seriously harmful #kimchay

[allthingswhumpyandangsty]

personally, I think people are allowed to ship a “toxic ship” as long as it’s fictional and they can separate fiction from reality. shipping a fictional “problematic ship” doesn’t mean you’re “abuse apologist” in real life. the same way people who enjoy fictional villains are not “murderers” in real life.

it’s okay if you think this ship makes you uncomfortable and so you personally dislike it. what you can and should do is avoid their contents and refrain from interacting with people who do ship them. that mute and block buttons are your friends.

what you shouldn’t do, though, is harass people who ship them and brag about how they’re “red flags irl” and how you’re “morally superior” simply because of fictional characters.

I promise you, minding your own business and not caring about what ship strangers on the internet ship will make your fandom so much less toxic and a whole lot more enjoyable.

#fandom #fandoms #fandom police #blorbo #ship war #shipping discourse #fandom discourse #comfort character #hannigram #harringrove #sylki #hannibal #mileven #hannibal x will #ship and let ship #ao3 #archive of our own #loki #angst #whump #tropes #trope

[xx-slug-xx]

Ao3 authors, please learn to not insult people and be “morally superior” in the tags

Instead of tagging “noncon is gross” or “not noncon because that’s problematic”, for example, just put “enthusiastic consent” or “consensual sex” in the tags. It makes things a whole lot easier for people to filter and know what’s going on.

I really don’t care that you think noncon fics are bad or whatever, I (and many others) will be more likely to read your fic about two boys who are deeply in love if you aren’t an ass about your morals in fiction :/

#ao3 #proship #profic #anti anti #profiction #comship #proshipping #proshipper #anti censorship #fandom discourse #anti harassment

[imakatperson22]

Them: Wait, so, you think Tommy’s closet joke was actually hysterical and made you love his character even more instead of hating him?

Me:

#911 on abc #911 season 7 #911 spoilers #eddie diaz #evan buckley #911 abc #911 #911 show #911 fox #911 s7 #911 7x05 #buck x tommy #bucktommy #evan buck buckely #bi buck #tommy kinard #firefly #anti tommy kinard #I will not stand for Tommy hate #fandom discourse #test me #it was a great joke #it definitely wasn’t enough to out him #please get a grip #some of your anti Tommy posts read like satire #it’s really silly

[theggning]

Wtf is this "sibling-coded" nonsense I keep seeing? Y'all know that if a man and a woman are close but you don't personally ship it, they can just be friends, right? Even really really good friends? They can love each other? But also be not romantically linked, and also not be "sibling-coded?"

Like there's a whole spectrum in between "fucking" and "siblings." Friends? Partners? Has the word "platonic" lost all meaning?

I mean I personally don't think it's very platonic to get four inches away from each others' lips and touch intimately and make BDSM jokes, but that's also EXTREMELY NOT "sibling-coded."

#i am not going to tag a fandom here because i've seen it in several of mine but #y'all what the hell is going on here #are you okay?? is everything okay?? #does anyone who says this actually have siblings?? #fandom discourse

[salemoleander]

I am growing increasingly tired of the way certain sections of the MCYT fandom treats QPRs and non-romantic relationships as if they're inherently within Creator Boundaries. This is both ignorant of what QPRs are, and willfully avoids considering boundaries as anything beyond a useful checklist to bludgeon other fans with.

QPRs can look like friendships, friends with benefits, kink relationships, life partners, and a million other things. They can appear identical to romantic relationships from the outside. They can include sex. It's frustrating seeing QPRs morphed into Schrodinger's Platonic Relationship in fandom, where people write what is functionally just traditional romantic ship fic but still get to yell at other people for Breaking Creator Boundaries.

It feels like the assumption is "Romance might upset creators, but as long as it's platonic it's fine." As if a QPR fic where characters spend the whole time cuddling, or even a fic where they're assigned as family and are written to have a non-existent sibling relationship, wouldn't also be deeply weird & off-putting to creators. (I know many people don't approach creating fan content with creators in mind, but for those who evidently do it seems deeply odd to pretend that romance is taboo but cuddling/whump/etc are inherently unobjectionable.)

A fic where someone gets Overcome By Instincts and kidnaps another character to (platonically!!1!1!) force them to cuddle is way weirder than just having them kiss. Which is fine! It's fine to be weird! The problem is assuming that an ABO fic w/ the serial numbers filed off is inherently More Pure and palatable to creators just because it uses an & instead of a /, and in incorrectly redefining an entire complex relationship category to 'sexless off-brand romance that won't get me cancelled on Twitter'.

#uhhhh not sure what to tag #fandom discourse #mcyt #this isn't so much swinging at a hornet's nest as pulling it into the car next to me and shutting the door #but gd I cannot take the total ignorance of QPRs and hypocritical 'But Boundariessss!' from people writing a neutered version of 50 shades #happy to add more tags for blocking purposes! #salem tag

[animentality]

#twitter #sheith #voltron #fandom discourse #fandom #ao3 #proship #antis