#fandom negativity

[triforce-of-mischief]

#linked universe #lu #im sorry i cant stop making memes to cope #fandom negativity

[etoilesbienne]

My plea to the rest of the qsmp tumblr fandom: Please stop making every piece of content relate back to the first purgatory.

I don't want to be a person who shows up and rains on parades to ruin fun for people, but I think there's a sizeable amount of this community that doesn't really realize how much the first purgatory has affected every less popular character's fanwork. Especially on tumblr, where English is the lingua franca and almost everyone communicates in it. You have to understand most characters on qsmp were not exactly the same characterization wise on quesadilla island than they were on purgatory. Not that they aren't the same characters, it's just people seem to be prioritizing only those purgatory characterizations over every other moment on the server, while also not looking and trying to understand these characters outside of purgatory at all.

Purgatory 2 got hit with it too, like I don't think I saw a single team in P2 that didn't get extensive comparisons to any of the P1 teams. Like I get it, media parallels, that's cool! It's just tiring when you look at any character's tag or a P2 team's tag that is less popular in the English fandom and 95% of it is just to do with purgatory one, or wanting them to do something from purgatory one, or saying how they should join a purgatory one team. I can't wait until we can move on to a new arc in the server that involves all the characters, but until then, please be aware that almost all of the non-English characters have been almost, like, mostly only receiving content about purgatory one still. It's a disservice to the characters and the CC behind them, they become side characters to streamers who are more popular in English fandom.

I don't think anyone's, like, a bad person for liking purgatory or enjoying purgatory content, nor is any one team worse than the other or deserves any hate, just understand it's a struggle for anyone who likes these less popular characters to find non-purgatory one based content. Let these characters be their own individuals instead of extensions of other characters. :(

#sorry for maintagging i just don't know what else i can do than try to politely ask #if you don't make purgatory based content this doesn't apply to you dw #qsmp #qsmp purgatory #qsmp purgatory 2 #qpurgatory #qpurgatory 2 #discourse #neg #fandom neg #fandom negativity #posts from the aether

[science-lings]

It feels weird to frame this ‘LU fans outing themselves as homophobes’ situation as like fandom discourse and that ‘maybe we should all just get along!’ When one side is literally trying to spread the belief that queer people are inherently predatory and sexually perverted and that Pride is immoral or something, and most of us are just reacting like ‘maybe I don’t want to interact with people who would probably rejoice in my death’ but idk that might be just me…

#linked universe #fandom negativity

[yanderehighschool-confessions]

there was an anon a little bit ago who was saying like “Grian has teeth” and thank GOD someone said it. in all the fics involving yhs and grian, oh my fucking god, and I mean OH MY FUCKING GOD.

Grian is NOT a poor wittol defenseless pussy who gets attacked and forced to eat plastic and has his wings hurt all the time good fucking lord. like oh my goddd man:.. i understand that yes him as taurtis would be traumatizing and it was weird but god damn it was only like for a couple episodes???? It wasn’t for as long as people make it seem??????? Why is it always “Grian is hurt and attacked and stabbed and manipulated and bullied by Yuki and Sam🥺🥺🥺🥺” and not “yeah Grian helped to like. kill and murder tons of fucking people and beat up Sam multiple times” LIKE WHAT FO YOU MEAN.

HES NOT WEAK OR A OUSSY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT… it genuinely actually annoys me sm. like I hate how he’s always depicted as defenseless when he ISNT!!!!!!!!!! The man is strong!!!!!! The man doesn’t need defending all the time!!!!! Oh my god!!!!!!!!

cougfs… anyway,… got a little heated therw😨

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#yhs #samgladiator #yandere high school #yandere highschool #yhs confession #anonymous #grian #yhs samgladiator #yhs grian #yhs sircutieyuki #fandom take #fandom negativity

[beautyconsumer]

I was thinking why it bothered me so much when people joke about Tim or Dick having been worse or more misbehaved (Dick's teenage dirt bag era) or having killed more than Jason, (those jokes about the red robin run and the loa bases). Which are also mostly exaggerated.

I didn't understand why — like it's not a competition and people can chose the dynamic or headcanons they prefer but...

Jason gets so alienated and rejected for the things he does, because of his morals and how he applies his justice and it - yes, that's what bothers me. That Jason gets treated like the scapegoat of the family, like the one who's emotions on his death and trauma aren't valid or strong enough to explain his behavior. (I ain't justifying either but there's a difference between enabling him and validating how he freaking feels)

#jason todd #dc comics #batman #dc #batfam #fandom negativity #??? #I guess?? #Just my thoughts

[distort-opia]

you know i often see people throwing around the claim "joker r*ped/sa'd barbara in tkj" (mainly to shame people for liking the joker or batjokes) even though alan moore has dedunked it at some point. like the only piece of media i can think of with joker as a rapist is the azzarello graphic novel which is shit and doesn't need to be accepted as canon. i know it's kinda of a touchy subject but i'd be interested to hear your thoughts

Well. You've pretty much said it, to be honest.

Even a cursory Google search will reveal that Azzarello's Joker (2008) is a one-off, non-canon story. The just as much stand-alone sequel, Batman: Damned has a grieving Harley Quinn almost force herself on Bruce, and yet I haven't heard people say Harley is a rapist. Hell, didn't Batman and Harley Quinn (2017) have Harley and Nightwing sleep together... with pretty dubious consent on Dick's side? And yet fans are able to acknowledge that these are not canon storylines and that the writer matters a lot-- in the case of the latter, it's co-written by Bruce Timm, who is infamous for his shitty portrayal of female characters (also see the animation Batman: The Killing Joke, in which Barbara very assertively has sex with Batman, because that's of course the only way a woman can exercise power). Actually, Barbara's character has suffered so much... there's even Batman Beyond 2.0 #28, in which Bruce apparently got Barbara pregnant, Dick's girlfriend at the time.

But we all dismiss these storytelling choices because we know they're idiotic. They go against the core of the characters, simple as that. Why is Joker not allowed the same? While what he canonically did to Barbara in TKJ was horrible, rape did not happen, and that's a fact. Any other implications of sexual assault can only be connected to Frank Miller's writing in the TDKR series (not canon), or that horrible (and again, not canon) book adaptation of TKJ by Christa Faust and Gary Phillips. Unfortunately, there are always some writers who think that it's just darker and grittier and cooler, more shocking to have Joker attempt rape or resort to sexual means of intimidation; though it's funny how it happens that these are also generally controversial writers for their sexist depictions of women.

But we do know why Joker is not afforded the same kind of treatment as other characters who got butchered by out-of-character stories, canon or otherwise. He's become the punching bag of the DC fandom; it's so easy to proclaim loud and proud these days how much you hate the Joker and want him dead. If you're an anti and looking to feel morally righteous and signal to your echo chamber how good and pure you are, it's a low hanging fruit to latch onto Joker and criticize him for all he's done. The problem, of course, is when these people start attacking actual, real-life fans over their fictional preferences, shipping or otherwise.

But to give a more general conclusion, and my actual opinion on the matter: Joker is a master manipulator. His main schtick is literally getting Batman to kill him by orchestrating all manner of situations; he manipulates his doctors, his henchmen, he manipulates Gotham itself through the media on countless occasions. The very reason why he did what he did to Barbara in TKJ was to manipulate her father into having a mental breakdown. Joker picks people to break and then breaks them psychologically, that is his MO. What he wants is to expose the people around him, he wants to show that deep down, everyone is rotten.

It probably becomes obvious why rape is inconsistent with this mindset. Joker isn't the kind of monster to make things happen by brute force, he's the kind of monster to manipulate people into the worst versions of themselves and then laugh at them as they hate themselves for it. He'll murder and torture and imply any manner of atrocity to make that happen, but the source of his glee is seeing people fall into the same dark pit, devoid of humanity, he's chosen to live in. (And don't even get me started on the fact that Joker was canonically shown to have been a victim of sexual assault himself as a child, in Batman: Streets of Gotham. As an adult, he's depicted as gruesomely taking revenge on the man who did it. Something tells me there's more than one reason why Joker would not resort to rape, and it goes beyond MOs or agendas.)

#I got a bit long but alas #this was prompted by whatever twitter meltdown is currently happening wasn't it #heard about it and heaved a long sigh. this is why I stay away from that hell hole #asks #long post #joker #rape mention #discussion of rape #fandom negativity

[galateagalvanized]

also just. ngl. seeing all the posts like “omg glimmer’s gone, fuck, who has copies of their works saved??” …….ok cool tell me without telling me that you don’t actually care about the wellbeing or mental health of all the authors whose works you read for fucking free.

and all those people like “i’ll fight you if you’re mean to an author!” who also never comment or share or reblog works? just tattoo “slacktivist” on your forehead because you’d clearly never lift a finger for an author let alone fight for one.

#ok i’m gonna be mad on the internet one (1) time #tbd #negative #fandom negativity

[minty-mumbles]

Holy shit, I can’t believe people are saying shit about gay people being predatory with their full chest in the main LU tag

I’ll just say that this blog is a safe safe for all members of the lgbtq+ community. Intolerance is not tolerated here.

#linked universe #mint’s rambles #this is all so exhausting #Like 90% of the LU fandom are either queer or supportive #and then there’s this small subsection that’s just openly homophobic #and I just have to wonder how they got here #fandom negativity

[dismemberment-on-a-tuesday-night]

Can we stop posting about an asexual joke from Hazbin fucking Hotel all over the aromantic tag?

I want it to be usable again. I swear it just looks like a fandom tag now. Everything there is gifs of "You're an ace in a hole" or whatever. I had to block all the tags pertaining to that stupid show just to browse the tag. Chill out please.

#I'm just bitching but GOD #Abraham original: Hot off the press #Aromantic #Aroallo #Arospec #Aromantic Allosexual #Fandom negativity #Aphobia #Why are asexual people so deeply against giving aromantic people space? #You'd think they'd respect us or something because we're similar

[beheworthy]

thor's thinks jane dumped him but the actual reality of the situation is that he left FIRST. it's presented clear as day in canon.

and yet the fandom blames her for leaving him when he left her.

even still, she never stopped loving him (wore that thunder necklace) and then she LITERALLY dies for him.

and yet the fandom blames her for not loving him and not deserving him.

fandom misogyny never fails.

#a woman can die for a man and they'd still say he deserved better #like all these people who treated him like dirt #text #fandom misogyny #fandom negativity #jane foster #thor #thor odinson #thor x jane #marvel #anyway she's the love of his life and he loves her the most #please stay mad abt it it fuels me

[triforce-of-mischief]

What’s up with all the fandom hate suddenly?

because it's that time of year again and people are getting complacent.

because some people will jump at the opportunity to spread hate.

because fic authors are underappreciated in this fandom.

because this fandom has a history of bullying fic authors out of ao3, out of tumblr, out of the internet entirely.

because there's people hiding in the woodwork, thanklessly consuming content and only showing their faces if they get to say something nasty.

because don't like, don't read is something mentioned once in a blue moon.

because too few people have learned that it's healthy to complain about disliked tropes- privately, away from those who they will hurt.

because fandom is what you get when you lock a bunch of haters in a room and see what happens.

because despite everything, despite all the hate, we always come out stronger for it.

be smarter. keep your hate away from the public eye. don't encourage those who want to tear others down. tell your favorite fic author how much you love and appreciate them. make this fandom a kinder, better place.

#linked universe #linkeduniverse #lu #fandom #fandom negativity #fable's asks #chatting with anon!

[ibex-ascendant]

The "Vash was in the wrong to reject Knives after Knives viciously mocked his post-Big Fall distress, got their mother killed, repeatedly ignored Vash's agency, and asked him to shoot somebody he clearly cared about" takes are up there with the "Anakin's fall to the Dark Side was the Jedi's fault because the Jedi Code didn't permit marriage" takes in terms of raising my blood pressure.

I love both of these characters a whole lot, but it isn't because they were secretly the victim all along! It's because they're big ol' trash disaster men who ruin the lives of everyone they care about!

#fandom negativity #i mean tbf anakin was at least a legitimate victim of grooming

[sister-dear]

So in the midst of all this homophobic discord server stuff I just saw someone make a “respect Jojo’s wishes and don’t linkship in LU” post. And I just. Need people to understand that these two things are connected. That situation A (the only visible opinion of queer ships the creator has made easily accessible to the fandom at large is a big loud “don’t”) has led directly to situation B (homophobic discord server). 

Jojo is a fellow fan, sure. A fellow fan who has created a fandom space that is vastly larger than many, many fandoms for works published with the intent to make money. Like it or not, when you have a following that large, you have influence. It might not be fair. It might not be what you asked for or wanted. But what you say and what you don’t say when you’re a “big name” reaches a lot more people and has the potential to hurt a lot more people and that creates a level of responsibility. It just does. 

This fandom was such a relief when I first joined! As an aro person it was so incredibly nice to be able to write stories about platonic relationships and have people take them at face value rather than interpret them as secretly shipping or something. 

But I have also been very aware from day one that there was not one single in-comic instance of an intentionally, explicitly queer ship of any stripe. No answered asks, no author comments linked anywhere in any of the main blog tags to indicate any of these characters is actually meant to be queer in any way.

Whether that was intentional or not. Whether that is a reflection of Jojo’s actual views of irl queer people or not. It has, along with the “safe space” for a-spec people, created a safe space for homophobia. It has created a space that has flared up (repeatedly!) into active hostility against gay people. 

And then I see, in the wake of the homophobic discord drama and people gleefully shit-stirring and doing “recon” in the homophobic server, “ohhh but don’t criticize Jojo! Jojo is just a fellow fan!” 

And I’m just. 

Tired.

#if this blows up while i’m at work today i’ll just deal with it later ig #fandom drama #fandom negativity #negative

[yanderehighschool-confessions]

I wish I could find yhs fics that weren’t just “Sam goes to hermitcraft and torments uwu boy Grian” it’s so over done and always mischaracterizes them

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#fandom negativity #hermitcraft #yhs samgladiator #grian #yhs #anonymous #fandom take #yhs confession

[distort-opia]

You mentioned canon batjokes in your previous ask and I shudder to think what DC would do to these men in an actual romantic relationship

What's hilarious (though also sad) to me is that we kinda saw how it'd likely go two times, except Joker either got to be a woman (in Flashpoint Beyond, as Martha Wayne) or an existing woman who's a romantic interest of Bruce's and who got "Jokerized" in terms of personality (in Tom King's Black Label Batman/Catwoman). Both cases, Batman's need for control manifests in either imprisoning Joker in the Batcave as they raise an adopted child, or marrying a version of him that accepts compromise and also has a child. (Realizing now that in another timeline Bruce adopted Joker's kid as a Robin, in The New Golden Age. Squinting my eyes at DC so hard. If they wanted Joker mpreg so badly, they shouldn't have had Zatanna do it.)

It's obvious what these have in common. Can you imagine canon Batjokes with actual Joker. DC would only be willing to justify it with a Joker who's been thoroughly sanitized and redeemed and who basically... isn't Joker anymore.

#no thanks! let Joker be a feral gremlin! #if Bruce managed to control him it'd make him so much worse. and he's already insufferable [affectionate] #asks #fandom negativity

[hunterarden]

Continue to be confused by those who pay more attention to costumes and hair than I do making demonstrably untrue assertions about The Witcher show (always in order to dunk on it of course lol). Like no that’s literally not a bad wig, you can see videos of them doing the actors’ hair. No that’s not a racist stereotype in a lazy attempt to degrade the actor, she had input into the design that you won’t stop calling ugly and offensive.

#Twn #the Witcher Netflix #the Witcher #wigs #costumes #clothes #outfits #hair #hater #being a hater #of haters #still hating technically lol #Fandom #Fandom negativity #?