#fandom thoughts

[dont-tell-mom-and-dad]

My new favorite thing to do is blame all of the supernatural writers’ bad writing on Chuck

#supernatural #fandom #spn #spnfandom #fandom thoughts #chuck shurley #Chuck #chuck shirley #for example #Sam Winchester #not looking for #dean winchester #when he was in #purgatory #that was so out of character

[thiawen]

Jason: Why the fuck does the League have a ‘Flee on Sight, Do Not Engage’ order for me?

Tim: You terrify them

Jason: The Justice League?

Dick: Yeah. A Bat with guns and a willingness to kill is too much for them to handle.

Jason: What a bunch of bitches. Don’t they know I only go after monsters?

Tim: Yeah. But according to the reports, you always look like you want to shoot them in particular when they run into you. No one wants to chance it. See? (Shows footage taken by the Flash when Jason last went hunting through Central City)

Dick: (Peers at picture. Confused.) That’s just Jason’s normal face. Why would they think he wants to shoot them?

Tim: (Deadpanned) Because Jason always looks like he wants to shoot someone.

Jason: (Agreeing) I have resting sniper face.

#DC #Imagined Conversations #Jason Todd #Red Hood #Tim Drake #Dick Grayson #Red Robin #Nightwing #Justice League #Fandom Thoughts

[cybernaght]

The fandom echo chamber: fanon, microanalysis and conspiracy brain 

As someone who has been in fandom spaces, on and off, for 20 years, I find some fascinating trends popping up in the last decade that I thought to be fandom-specific but clearly aren’t. So, I would like to do a little examination of where those things come from, how they are engaged with, and what it says about the way we consume media. This is a think piece, of sorts, with my brain being the main source. As such, we will spend some time down the memory lane of a fandom-focused millennial.

This is largely brought about by Good Omens. But it’s also not really about Good Omens at all.

Part one. Fanon.

The way we see characters in any story is always skewed by our very selves. This is a neutral statement, and it does not have a value judgement. It’s simply unavoidable. We recognise aspects of them, love aspects of them, and choose aspects of them to highlight based entirely on our own vision of the universe. 

Recognition comes into this. There is a reason so many protagonists of romance novels have a “blank slate” problem. Even when they do not, we love characters who are like us or versions of us that we would like to be. And when we say “we”, I also mean, “me”. 

(I remember very clearly this realisation hit me after a whole season of Doctor Who with writing which I hated utterly when I questioned why I still clung so incredibly hard to Clara Oswald as my favourite companion. Then I looked at myself in the mirror. Oh. Well. That would do it, wouldn’t it?)

Then, there is projection, and, again, this is a neutral statement. Projection exists, and it is completely normal and, dare I say it, valid way of engaging with — well, anything. Is the character queer? Trans? Neurodivergent? Are they in love? Do they like chocolate? Are they a cat person? Well, yes, if this is what the text says, but if the text does not say anything… You tell me. Please, do tell me. Because, in that moment of projection, they are yours. 

And then, there is fandom osmosis, and that is the most fascinating one of them all, the one that is not very easy to note while you are inside the echo chamber. It’s the way we collectively, consciously or not, make decisions on who or what the characters are, what their relationships are, and what happens to them.  

(Back when I was writing egregiously long Guardian recaps on this blog I actually asked if Shen Wei’s power being learning actually was stated anywhere in the canon of the show. Because I had no idea. I have read and reread dozen of fanfics where that is the case, and at some point through enough repetition, it became reality.)

We are all kind of making our own reality here, aren’t we? 

Back when things were happening in a much less centralised manner - in closed livejournal groups, and forums of all shapes and sizes - I don’t remember there being quite as much universally agreed upon fanon. Frankly, I don’t remember much of universally agreed upon anything. But now, everything is in one place: we have this, and we have AO3, and it’s wonderful, it really is so much easier to navigate, but it’s also one gigantic reality-shifting echo chamber, with blogs, reblogs, trends, and rituals. 

Accessibility plays its part, too. If you were, say, in Life on Mars (UK) fandom between seasons, and you wanted to post your speculation fic, you had to have had an account, and then find and gain access to one of the bigger groups (lifein1973 was my poison, but ymmv), and then, if you feel brave you may post it, but also, you may want to do so from your alt account if you wanted to keep yours separate, and then you would have to go through the whole process again. And I’m not saying that fan creations then were somehow inherently better for it than fan creations now (although Life on Mars Hiatus Era is perhaps a bad example - because some of the Speculation Fic there was breathtaking), but there is something to say about the ease of access that made the fandoms go through a big bang of sorts.

(I mean, come on, I can just come here and post this - and I am certain people will read it, and this blog is a pandemic cope baby about Chinese television for goodness sake.)

The canon transformations that happen in the fandom echo chamber truly are fascinating to witness as someone who is more or less a fandom butterfly. I get into something, float around for a bit, then get into something else and move on. I might come back eventually when the need arises, but I don’t sustain a hiatus mind-state. This means that when I float away and return, I find some very intriguing stuff.

Let’s actually look at Good Omens here. Season two aired, and I found it spectacular in its cosy and anguished way; deliberately and intelligently fanfic-y in its plot building; simple but subversive, and so very tender. (I will have to circle back to this eventually, because, truly, I love how deliberately it takes the tropes and shatters them - it’s glorious). And, to me - a person who read the book, watched the first season, hung around AO3 for a few weeks and moved on - absolutely on-point in terms of characterisation. 

So imagine my surprise when the fandom disagreed so vehemently that there are actual multi-tiered theories on how characters were not in possession of their senses. Nothing there, in my mind, ever contradicted any of the stated text, as it stood. This remained a strange little mystery until I did what I always do when I flutter close to an ongoing fandom.

I loaded AO3 and sorted the existing fic by popularity. And there it was, all there: the actual earth-shattering mutual devotion of the angel and the demon; willingness to Fall; openness and long heart-aching confession speeches. There was all of the fanon surrounding Aziraphale and Crowley, which, to me, read as out of character, and to one for whom they became the reality over the last four years, read as truth. 

Again, only neutral statements here. This is not a bad thing, and neither this is a good thing, this is just something that happens, after a while, especially when there are years for the fandom-born ideas to bounce around and stew. I can’t help but think that so much of what we see as real in spaces such as this one is a chimaera of the actual source and all the collective fan additions which had time and space to grow, change, develop, and inspire, reverberating over and over again, until the echoes fill the entirety of the space. 

Eventually, this chimaera becomes a reality. 

Part two. Microanalysis 

Here are my two suppositions on the matter:

1. Some writers really love breadcrumb storytelling. 

Russel T Davies, for instance, on his run of Doctor Who (and, if you are reading it much later - I do mean the original one), loved that technique for his seasonal arcs. What is a Bad Wolf? Who is Harold Saxon? Well, you can watch very very carefully, make a theory, and see it proven right or wrong by the end of the season. 

Naturally, mystery box writers are all about breadcrumb storytelling: your Losts and your Westworlds are all about giving you snippets to get your brain firing, almost challenging you to figure things out just ahead of the reveal. 

2. We, as humans, love breadcrumbs.

And why wouldn’t we? Breadcrumbs are delicious. They are, however, a seasoning, or a coating. They are not the meal. 

Too much metaphor?

Let’s unpack it and start from the beginning.

Pattern recognition colours every aspect of our lives, and it colours the way we view art to a great extent. I think we truly underestimate how much it’s influenced by our lived experiences.

If you are, broadly speaking, living somewhere in Western/North-Western Europe in the 14th century, and you see a painting in which there is a very very large figure surrounded by some smaller figures and holding really tiny figures, you may know absolutely nothing about who those figures are, but you know that the big figure is the Important One, and the small ones are Less Important Ones, and the tiny ones are In Their Care. You know where your reverence would lie, looking at this picture. And, I imagine, as someone living in the 14th century, you may be inspired to a sense of awe looking at this composition, because in the world you live in, this is how art works. 

If you, on the other hand, watch a piece of recorded media and see the eyes of two characters meet as the violins swell, you know what you are being told at that moment. You don’t have to have a film degree to feel a sort of way when you see a green-tinged pallet used, when cross-cuts use juxtaposing images, or notice where your focus is pulled in any given shot. This stuff - this recognition of patterns - has been trained into us by the simple fact that we live in this time, on this planet, and we have been doing so long enough to have engaged recorded media for a period of time. 

As humans, we notice things. Our brains flare up when they see something they recognise, and then we seek to find other similar details and form a bigger picture. This often happens unconsciously, but sometimes it does not. Sometimes we do it on purpose: finding breadcrumbs in stories is a little bit like solving a mystery. It allows us to stretch that brain muscle that puts two and two together. It makes us feel clever. 

So yes, we love breadcrumbs, and, frankly, quite a lot of storytelling takes advantage of this. It’s very useful for foreshadowing, creating thematic coherence, or introducing narrative parallels and complexity. It’s useful for nudging the viewer into one or the other emotional direction, or to cue them into what will happen in the next moment, or what exactly is the one important detail they should pay attention to.

Because this is something media does intentionally, and something we pick up both consciously and not, it is very hard to know when to stop. We don't really ever know when all of the breadcrumbs have been collected. It becomes very easy to get carried away. There is a very specific kind of pleasure in digging into content frame by frame, soundbite by soundbite, chasing that pleasure of finding. 

But it is almost never breadcrumbs all the way down. They are techniques to help us focus on the main event: the story. I truly believe those who make media want it to reach the widest possible audience, and that includes all of us who like to watch every single thing ever created with our Media Analysis Goggles on and those who are just here to enjoy the twists and turns of the story at the pace offered to them. And I think, sometimes in our chase to collect and understand every little clue we forget that media is not made to just cater for us.

One can call it missing a forest for the trees. But I would hate to mix my metaphors, so let’s call it missing a schnitzel for the breadcrumbs. 

Part three. The Conspiracy Brain. 

If you are there with me, in the midst of the excited frenzy, chasing after all those delicious breadcrumbs, then patterns can grow, merge together, and become all-encompassing theories. Let’s call them conspiracy theories, even though this is not what they truly are.

So, why do we believe in conspiracy theories?

One, Because We Have Been Lied To. 

All conspiracies start with distrust.

If you are in fandom spaces - especially if you are in fandom spaces which revolve around a queer fictional couple - especially-especially if you have been in such spaces for a period of time, you have most certainly been lied to at one point or another. 

We don’t even have to talk about Sherlock - and let’s not do that - but do you remember Merlin? Because I remember Merlin. Specifically, I remember the publicity surrounding the first season, with its weaponised usage of “bromance” and assertions that this whole thing is a love story of sorts, and then the daunting realisation that this was all a stunt, deliberately orchestrated to gather viewership. 

And, because we were lied to in such a deliberate manner for such an extensive period of time, I genuinely believe that it forever altered our pattern recognition habits, because what was this if not encouragement to read into things? Now we are trained to read between the lines or see little cries for help where they might not be. Because we were told, over and over again, that we should.

(Yes, I think we are all existing in these spaces coloured by the trauma of queer-bating. I am, however, looking forward to a world where I can unlearn all of that.)

Two, Cognitive Dissonance.

The chain reaction works a bit like this: the world is wrong - it can’t possibly be wrong by coincidence - this must be on purpose - someone is responsible for it.

Being Lied To is a preamble, but cognitive dissonance is where it all originates. In so many cross-fandom theories I have noticed a four-step process:

A) this is not good

B) this author could not have made a mistake 

C) this must be done on purpose

D) here is why 

(Funny thing is, I have been on the receiving end of the small conspiracy spiral, and it is a very interesting experience. Not relevant to this conversation is the fact that a lot of my job revolves around storytelling. What is relevant is that my hobbies also revolve around storytelling. And one of them is DnD. Now, imagine my genuine shock when one of the players I am currently writing a campaign for noticed a small detail that did not make a logical sense within the complexity of the world, and latched on to it as something clearly indicating some kind of a secret subplot. Their thinking process also went a bit like this: this detail is not a good piece of writing — this DM knows how to tell stories well — this is obviously there on purpose. It was not there on purpose. I created a clumsy shorthand. I erred, in that pesky manner humans tend to. And, seeing this entire thought process recited to me directly in the moment, I felt somewhere between flattered and mortified.)

This whole line of thinking, I think, exists on a knife’s edge between veneration and brutal criticism, relentlessly dissecting everything “wrong”, with a reverent “but this is deliberate” attached to it like a vice, because it is preferable to a simple conclusion that the author let you down, in one way or another. 

Three, Intentionality 

I believe that there is no right or wrong way of engaging with stories, regardless of their medium, and assuming no one gets hurt in the process. While in a strictly academic way, there is a “correct” way of reading (and reading into) media, we here are largely not academics but consumers; consumption is subjective.

However, this all changes when intentionality is ascribed. 

The one I find particularly fascinating is the intentionality of “making it bad on purpose” because, as open-minded as I intend to always be, this just does not happen.

It certainly does not happen in long-form media. Even in the bread-crumb mystery box-type long-form media. 

When television programs underdeliver, they also underperform, and then they get cancelled.

If all the elements of Westworld Season 4 that did not sit together in a completely satisfactory way were written deliberately as some sort of deconstruction for the final season to explore, then it failed because that final season will now never come.

(There will likely never be a Secret Fourth Episode.)

And look, I am not here to refute your theories. Creativity is fun, and theorising is fantastic. 

But, perhaps, when the line of thought ventures into the “bad on purpose” territory, it could be recognised for what it is: disappointment and optimism, attempting to coexist in a single space. And I relate to that, I do, and I am sorry that there is even a need for this line of thinking. It’s always so incredibly disappointing that a creator you believed to be devoid of flaws makes something that does not hit in the way you hoped it would. It’s pretty heartbreaking. 

Unfortunately, people make mistakes. We are all fallible that way. 

Four, Wildfire.

Then, when the crumbs are found, a theory is crafted, and intentionality is ascribed, all that needs to happen is for it to catch on. And hey, what better place for it than this massive hollow funnel that we exist in, where thoughts, ideas and interpretations reverberate so much they become inextricable from the source material in collective consciousness. 

Conspiracy theories create alternate realities, very much like we all do here. 

So where are we now?

I am not here to tell you what is right and what is wrong; what is true, and what is not. We are all entitled to engage with anything we wish, in whichever way we wish to do it. This is not it, at all. 

All I am saying is… listen.

Do you hear that echo? 

I do. 

#fandom thoughts #fanon #good omens #good omens 2 #bbc sherlock #merlin bbc #think piece #it's been years and I still have no idea how to tag #conspiracy theories #fandom content #all fandoms

[frankthesnek]

You know what low key makes me sad? The scene in Avengers when Fury finds Steve at the gym to recruit him.

Yeah yeah, Steve is glowing and sexy from working out, and his ass looks great in those sweats.... but think about that (not his ass the other thing). He's sweating. Like seriously sweating....

How long was he at the gym, by himself (having fucking flashbacks no less!) to have worked up that kind of a sweat? This is Captain America, its not easy to wind the guy but he is very clearly worn out and drenched here. The poor man has been all alone, taking out all his pent up painful memories and emotions on those bags for fucking hours probably. Then Fury just shows up to talk to him about the very thing he is having ptsd flashbacks about! Just uuuugh I hate it!

Steve I just want to hug you 🥺😭

#he needs a hug #like seriously #he had to have been there for a loooooong time before fury showed up #steve aint gonna get that sweaty and winded from a 30min work out session #he been solo runing his emotional struggle on those bags for a long fucking time #i want to hug him and cuddle him and let him cry #steve rogers #fandom thoughts

[undercoverpena]

just in case someone else needs to hear it. sometimes, your favourite thing doesn’t become the thing that has the highest interaction on. it could be, for one, a slow “grower”—one that is always there and slowly pulls people in. but, more so, it could be a lot like those pieces of work of art in a museum. you know the ones that a few stop at, and it captivates them for a life time, it’s all they think about. but it doesn’t get the same crowds as something around the corner. and a lot of that is down to chance, to algorithm and things all out of your hands but all of that doesn’t make it any less beautiful, important or worthy. it doesn’t stop it from being important to you and to those who find themselves thinking about it days later. sometimes, we just have to stop hoping to be around the corner, and just be pleased when we share and place a piece of us in the museum.

#fandom thoughts #jo’s thoughts #fandom writing #fandom #nice thoughts #be kind to yourself

[ukulelekatie]

I’ve been thinking a lot lately about the double edged sword of fandom campaigns. Often, fighting for a prematurely-canceled show’s renewal means the end of said fandom as we know it. When a show gets canceled these days, its main tag on tumblr not only gets flooded with people talking about the injustice of the cancelation, but it also later becomes a dumping ground for other fandoms to share their woes when their show gets canceled too.

And trust me, I get it—we need to talk about it. We need to be loud about streamers pulling the same bullshit every month because they can’t keep getting away with it, and solidarity between fandoms is crucial toward this goal. But I also wish I could still go into the tag of my favorite show and look at gifs of my blorbos instead of a stream of posts yelling about the cancel your gays trope, some of which that aren’t necessarily relevant to my show.

To be clear, I’m blaming the streamers for this fandom culture shift, not the fans. Streamers have now caught on to the power of an organized fandom and commodified it, expecting us to sing and dance and do free promo for them while dangling a carrot above our heads that they may never have intended to give us in the first place. But man it still sucks that the cancelation of a show nowadays means the end of fandom business as usual, because it didn’t used to be this way! Fandoms used to continue on for quite a while past the end of their source material regardless of whether said media reached its intended end. Streaming corporations are sabotaging themselves; they want more engagement for their shows, but perhaps there would be more engagement if we weren’t all busy becoming lobbyists for them

#fandom thoughts #I’m not going to tag any fandoms because I don’t wanna perpetuate the exact thing I’m venting about #just katie things

[lilacpaperbird]

people talking about wincest like it's an ancient artifact is taking me out. quit telling everyone i'm dead

#we're alive we never left #💀 #fandom thoughts #samdean #⚝

[daenysthedreamer101]

I like to believe that when the Originals show their vampire face, it's a bit different from other vampires.

When their eyes turn red, they're a shade darker.

When their veins pop out beneath their eyes, they're bigger and darker.

When they show their fangs, they're just a bit longer.

Just as Klaus said, they are pure vampire while everyone else is "a diluted bloodline".

#the vampire diaries #original vampire #vampire diaries #the originals #rebekah mikaelson #kol mikaelson #elijah mikaelson #tvd klaus #klaus mikaelson #finn mikaelson #tvd universe #tvdu #tvd aesthetic #vampires #mystic falls #my thoughts #fandom thoughts #the mikaelsons #mikaelson family #mikaelson siblings

[soundbluster]

Unpopular opinion time:

Been watching a bit of Cyberverse again recently and I gotta say, I way prefer the Cyberverse take on Tarn over the MTMTE one!

I just find that version so much more interesting as a character, than the overly edgy leader of the DJD...

Even when MTMTE was being released I never really got the hype around Tarn, I suppose its the Boba Fett effect, a cool design can really carry a character into popularity even if there's not all that much to go off in the source text.!

(I love MTMTE but admittedly I can't say I ever found the villains all that compelling/interesting, with the exception of Getaway and to a lesser extent Pharma, though Lost Light's rushed conclusion kinda cut that short too.)

It kinda illustrates why trying out new ideas / continuities in the franchise is a good thing, it can completely change your feelings towards a character or do something cool with neglected concepts etc ...

#transformers #fandom ramblings #fandom thoughts #tarn #MTMTE #transformers cyberverse #tf cyberverse #talking to the void #random thoughts that pop into my head

[dont-tell-mom-and-dad]

Friendly reminder that the whole time Jack was in apocalypse world he was wearing velcro shoes. I may be overanalyzing this but did no one teach him how to tie his shoes by that point or did Jack just like them because he didn't feel like tying his shoes?

#supernatural #spn #spnfandom #fandom #jack kline #fandom thoughts #sam winchester #dean winchester #castiel #mary winchester

[thiawen]

DP x DC Prompt

Here’s a thought. So, Danny ends up in the DC verse somehow. And somehow it comes out that Danny is the only hero back home. So the League is telling him how there are dozens of them, trying to be reassuring, like You’re not alone here.

And maybe others would feel that way. See all these heroes and be relieved. But Danny?

Danny is a hero because he has to be. Because no one else can defeat some of the enemies he regularly dealt with. He had to protect the people from ghosts and the ghosts from hunters. And he paid for it everyday. Lost time and sleep and grades. Relationships. His dreams.

His parents and the government want to destroy him. He had to listen to them call him a monster everyday. The town he bled for often blamed him. And he did it alone. Oh sure, his friends backed him up. But they were back up.

There might be bright spots but the hero life was largely a life of pain. But Danny did it anyway because what choice did he have? The world needed him to step up, so step up he did. And he gave it his all in the hope that no one else would have to.

So when Danny sees all of those heroes, it breaks his heart.

What happened to your world, he asks them, horrified. That it needs so many of you.

#Fandom Thoughts #Danny Phantom #DC #DP x DC #DP x DC Prompt #Prompt #Writing Prompt #Danny Fenton #Justice League #My Prompts #Fanfic #Fanfic: Pity the Country

[just-two-blokes]

I doubt that an older Thomas Barrow (S4-S6) would have voluntarily told anyone about his sexuality after all that has happened.

But the idea of a young Thomas Barrow, arriving at Downton Abbey, kicked out of his parents house for his sexuality, being in dire need of a friend, would have probably one day told Ms. o‘Brien.

And the idea of a young Thomas putting this very dark and dangerous secret into the hands of a woman he trusted only for her to use it against him and almost getting him kicked out and into prison is so deeply horrible and disgusting to me.

Because a young Thomas Barrow would not have been so careful around people. Because a young Thomas Barrow probably still had trust in others.

Only for him to have this trust shattered into pieces from a person he thought was kind of his friend.

I can‘t imagine how this must have felt for him.

#thomas barrow #downton abbey #sarah o'brien #fandom thoughts

[rexxdjarin]

I do think we as a fandom need to have an honest conversation about how discord has kinda taken so many of us away from communicating and interacting with the fandom as a whole.

I understand there are certain bonds and friendships formed and people you start talking to consistently over others. But if it’s gotten to the point where those are the ONLY people you interact with, whether on discord or the tumblr dash, it can become extremely alienating to the rest of the fandom.

Things across the fandom have gotten kinda cliquey. And I am more than sure I have contributed to this as well! So in a way, this is a realization for myself too.

Don’t become so invested in the two or three groups of friends you’re apart of that you forget everyone else. There are always new people on here to interact with and if people realize that you’re in some kind of group in a different space that they arent they can become intimidated or feel like they’re intruding. I never want to make anyone feel that way.

I want to talk to everyone. I want everyone to feel like they can share thoughts on each others posts. I want everyone to feel like they can comment on someone’s works again.

I’m not saying discord is the main reason why tumblr fandom has been really off lately. (Because let’s be honest there’s been a myriad of other issues from tumblr itself that has led people to seek out other sites and I don’t blame them) but I think it’s contributing to making fandom spaces feel so selective and small and I really want to put a stop to that the best way I can.

We’re literally all just nerds on this site obsessed with the same crazy fandom shit and I want to do my best to get back to the inclusive and collaborative space this used to be.

#fandom thoughts #kinda discord critical I guess ? #I am in several discord groups ! and I love them and everyone in them #but I think we can do better at including others and talking to more than just each other #fandom critical #fandom culture

[frankthesnek]

In Avengers during the lab argument scene Cap says to Tony, "and I've seen the footage, the only thing you fight for is yourself." And then Tony just has these sad eyes.

I know this can be referencing multiple things, Tony is far from perfect. My mind always goes right to IM2 when Tony is very publicly falling apart, and I can't stop thinking about Tony being ashamed/embaressed that his childhood hero and idol saw him at his lowest and is (in Tony's mind) judging him for it. Like Tony just lowkey having a mental breakdown over Cap seeing the tapes of him being drunk and dangerous. The thought of Steve looking down on him brings back all of his alcoholic demons and he has to repeatedly tell himself he is more than that, he can be better than that—but thinking Cap sees him as that just makes it harder for him to hold on to sobriety, because feeling like he's already seen as trash makes Tony think fuck it, I might as well be...

You know, because Tony has mental stability and would definitely not be bothered at all by being called out as a drunk selfish asshole by the one person he grew up constantly being told was perfect, and had all the attention and adoration he so despratly wanted.

#im just gonna ramble for a hot minute sorry #that line and the look in tonys eyes always hit me as a one two punch of potential angst #rambles #fandom thoughts #stony thoughts #tony stark #headcanon

[accio-victuuri]

BXGs + IQIYI night ( and other fandom issues ) 🍵

11/25 is upon us and i’m personally excited to see WYB at a public event but my expectations are in check. He is obviously there because of his work with Chang Feng Po Lang and he has some obligation to promote it this way. He has no drama that aired with them this year and he has virtually no ties with them like he would Youku or Tencent even if the latter was in the past.

So i’m not expecting him to be fighting it out with other celebrities present for the spotlight. He doesn’t need it, the attention will naturally fall on him anyway. He also doesn’t have to try so hard to be relevant because he is already WYB. As much as I would love for him to perform, I don’t think it’s gonna happen but I hope i’m wrong.

Anyway, since the event will have lots of celebrities, the fandom activities are on. As expected. Online, it will be making sure your bias will be on top comments about IQIYI night related posts. Or when the individual photos come out, most likely 11/24, WYB should have the highest likes or shares.

Sohu’s weibo account shared what offline activities fandoms are doing and the first one is WYB. ✌🏼

( caption: Fans of male artists on iQiyi’s Scream Night support offline. There are large-screen displays on various transportation and landmark buildings in Macau, exclusive customized banners, etc. the fans are so attentive. )

What I love about the post is the project they shared there is by BXGs. ☕️

It’s a ad screen to be played in two ports close to Macau. IQIYI night is gonna take place on the same venue where YH concert took place this year. So that’s a memorable place for BXGs too. This is not something new. If you’ve been into fandoms like this before, then it makes sense. It’s actually standard and pretty simple, nothing extravagant. There are even companies that will do voting polls and the winning fandom will have their faves on LED Ads.

Video below is how it actually looks like in Gong Bei port. So many foot traffic omg!!!! They even used an edit by Stardustkii who is everyone’s fave. && The video is focused on his Movie Era 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

If you look at the main post of Sohu, all the top comments are BXGS. Passion Fruit supports WYB! 💪🏼

The drama ( sort of ) comes from one of the “fanclubs” of WYB sharing and commenting on that Sohu post.

Wang Yibo Cool Leopard Club and all fans responded to the Cyberspace Administration of China's "Qinglang" series of special action calls to guide the positive development of the fandom and have always put an end to any irrational support behavior.

Reject any consumption and gathering behaviors in the name of artists; reject any irrational support and other illegal fandom behaviors; put an end to any extravagant and wasteful support habits!

Let’s all work together to do more things that are of positive significance to society and jointly maintain a harmonious online environment.

My first reaction to this, aside from heavy eye rolling for sure 🙄🙄🙄, is utter confusion. This is because as soon as WYB was announced, even before that, another WYB fan group was telling fans what time WYB will be announced so everyone comment. They were also doing test posts and preparation to make sure WYB has good KPI numbers online and offline for the event. Even WYB’s FC Guangdong Group was calling on people to meet in Macau.

So everyone was like ?????

and how some so/os were supporting that repost. I mean come on. this has nothing to do with qinglang. they are rejecting that post cause it’s a BXG project and once again, it’s a shame for so/os. it’s giving them flashbacks to what happened in YH concert in Macau where they utterly failed to show up for WYB. Tho I have to give it to them, pulling Qinglang and acting all high and mighty compared to other fandoms is an infuriatingly genius route to go. I’m in a different fandom, I don’t know what happens in the inner circle of WYB’s so/o fandom in CHN but this incident gives me the clue that they are once again uncoordinated. He has a couple of “fan clubs” and groups per city and that has always been the reason for lack of unity. I mean, hate the 🍤🍤🍤 all you want, but those bitches are coordinated as fuck. They listen to one account only. There are no scattered fan clubs. It is cult-ish in some ways but it works when it comes to making sure everyone is doing the same thing and working on the same goal.

WYB so/o fans in CHN should get their act together. I know they work so hard ( that green banner for GRA was so sweet ) and I see it, but the lack of planning and coordination in times like this is hard to watch.

Now I don’t know what SOHU’s motive is only that they wanted to cover fandom projects for IQIYI Scream night. Maybe whoever it is just saw Yibo and Green and thought that’s it? They didn’t know BJYXSZD? Who knows. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I’m seeing BXGs who are going to Macau and are organizing together. I would think it’s harder to get tickets for this cause you are competing with other fandoms too. I just hope they have fun! I’m so excited for fansite photos too!

I was actually not supposed to share this cause it contains fandom “issue” which is sensitive. but the purpose of my tumblr have always been to write my thoughts… As much as cpfs are supposed to hate so/os and vice versa, I have never wished or hoped for their respective so/o fandoms to fail and be humiliated. Because they represent the boys and we support the same person.

Let’s just see what happens on 11/25 ✌🏼

#yizhan #fandom thoughts #bxgs are really something else

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Me: I'll write LuLaw instead of LawLu because I like dynamics in which Luffy is the domineering one. The LawLu Tag: *Luffy dominates*

#am amused #LawLu #LuLaw #fandom thoughts #monkey d. luffy #trafalgar law #One Piece #I wonder what the LawLu fans do...that used to be the more popular dynamic prior to Dressrosa