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mysharona1987 · 2 years
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geezerwench · 2 years
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On the anniversary of Nixon's resignation, the FBI has raided Donald tRump's dump, Mar-A-Lago.
Trump was not on the premises. Sadly.
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Trump seems to have fucked himself over again...
In response to the Hillary Clinton email scandal, Trump himself signed a law back in 2018 over the removal and retention of classified documents. That law increased the penalty for the unauthorized removal/retention of classified documents from one year to FIVE years, turning it into a felony offense.
He had 12 to 15 BOXES.
Imagine going to jail over a law you personally signed off on, enforced by a raid that was authorized by the same FBI director you chose, signed by a judge you appointed, and your own Secret Service agents let them in.
A bill which former President Donald Trump signed into law in 2018 could be used to punish him if he's found to have mishandled classified information after leaving office.
FBI agents on Monday raided Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida as part on an investigation into whether Trump wrongly kept hold of classified material after he left office.
Bradley P. Moss, a national-security attorney, told Insider that Trump could face five years in prison if he's found guilty under a national security bill which he signed as President.
The bill, which made changes to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) was signed into law by Trump in January 2018.
It upgraded the seriousness of wrongly moving classified material, turning it from a misdemeanor into a felony — and increasing the maximum punishment from one year to five.
Moss noted that it was passed in the wake of Trump's relentless attacks during the 2016 presidential campaign on Hillary Clinton for allegedly mishandling classified information.
But now it is Trump who is under pressure.
"Trump certainly has legal exposure to Section 1924 given it was classified documents from his spaces in the White House that were removed to Mar-Lago," said Moss.
In a tweet Tuesday in the wake of the FBI raid on Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort, Jeff Yarbro, an attorney and Democratic State Senator in Tennessee, pointed out it was Trump who had signed the bill now looming over him.
The National Archives and Records Administration in February said that classified material was found among boxes of things that had been taken from the White House to Mar-a-Lago when he left office.
Legal analyst Glenn Kirchner at the time told MSNBC that the former President was facing a potential "five year felony" in a seeming reference to the law Trump had strengthened in 2018.
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At the time, the classified-information measures attracted little attention, with the focus of news coverage being the renewal of sweeping surveillance powers in the bill.
According to an analysis by Moss and other analysts at the Just Security blog, it is one of a number of laws Trump might have violated if he's found to have mishandled classified material.
There are some doubts about whether the bill Trump signed into law could be used to prosecute him, said Moss, as it's unclear whether it applies to former Presidents.
Trump has vehemently denied any wrongdoing in relation, saying that he had fully cooperated with requests from the National Archives and characterizing the raid as a politically motivated.
His aide, Kash Patel, told Breitbart that Trump declassified the material before leaving office under the President's broad powers for deciding what should remain secret.
Moss said "efforts by Trump to declassify records before he left office" were another key issue that could impact whether the measures could be used to prosecute Trump.
Trump's office did not immediately reply to a request for comment from Insider.
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uboat53 · 1 year
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Well, here we go again. A few months ago I had to explain why Clinton's e-mails weren't equivalent to what Trump did with classified documents, now I have to do Biden. And, to be clear, the reason I have to do this again is because Republicans fundamentally refuse to understand what it was that was bad about what Trump did.
This isn't a hypothetical either; it's only been a day since we found out about Biden's classified documents and ALREADY Republicans as diverse as former-VP Mike Pence, Rep. James Comer (R-KY), and Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) have gone on record making this abysmally poor comparison.
So here's the thing. This week it was revealed that some classified documents were discovered at the Biden Center at Penn University. Biden's staff immediately alerted the FBI, the National Archives, and the Justice Department and, so far, both the Biden Center and White House staff as well as the President himself seem to have fully cooperated with the investigation.
And, because conservatives will try to spin this the other way, I should be very clear: THIS IS WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO!
It does happen from time to time that classified documents may be misplaced. This isn't great, but it does happen. When it happens, the person or people who discover this as well as the people responsible are supposed to immediately do what they can to let the government know and help them determine the scope of any potential breach. Again, as far as we can tell, it looks like Biden and his team are doing this.
And, again, because conservatives will try to spin this the other way, I should also be very clear: THIS IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT TRUMP DID!
Trump, as far as we can tell, (1) deliberately took hundreds of classified documents (not just a few), (2) did not disclose this to the government, (3) deliberately misled the government when asked about it, (4) hid them when the government came to look for them, and (5) has continued to obstruct the ongoing investigation into how the documents were mishandled and the scope of the potential breach.
This, not politics, is why Trump is under criminal investigation for mishandling of classified documents and, so far, Biden is not. Anyone who cannot or will not understand that is playing politics with national security and we should question whether they, themselves, should be trusted.
Here's a good article on the subject if you care to read more about it.
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I refuse to get my hopes up. I refuse to believe anything will come of this yet. We'll know how serious this is by how he reacts; if he bitches and moans about a witch hunt and corruption and radical leftists, then it means nothing, because he already acts like that every single day, so this raid couldn't have been any worse for him than usual, it's no big deal. If, however, he starts getting REALLY UPSET, like he syarts filing suit after suit after suit against the government and different officials or he makes an indefinite international trip or he starts throwing his own people under the bus, then we know the feds have him by the balls. He's an invertebrate and it's in his nature to squirm, so all we can do is gauge whether he's squirming moreso than usual. We'll know if he's going down because he'll know he's going down. If his petulance ramps up, if he starts acting erratic or announces he's running again, then the heat is on for real.
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spookyboogie3 · 2 years
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midnightfunk · 2 years
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The partial release of the heavily-redacted affidavit and related court documents is the latest development in a fast-moving legal saga that poses an acute threat to the former president. Experts say it is unprecedented in nature. One classified information expert who oversaw such issues across the government said Friday that the scenario laid out was extraordinary and suggested that significant national secrets are at stake.
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monsiurrabbit · 1 year
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Its okay, they’re using rubber bullets.
Can’t say the same about the lasers though.
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destielmemenews · 9 months
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trutown-the-bard · 2 years
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If I was Donald Trump, I’d seize on the FBI raid, schedule a presser, and announce that I am running for President in 2024 tomorrow.
He should announce he’s running on the platform of dismantling the FBI and destroying the Deep State that is being weaponized against Americans.
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smashing-yng-man · 2 years
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The less fortunate funding a self-proclaimed billionaire. Despite who it is, that's the stupidest fucking political "activism" I've ever heard of.
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Special counsel Jack Smith's team has obtained lawyer notes showing that former President Donald Trump was warned that he could not keep any classified documents in response to a subpoena he failed to comply with last year, according to The Guardian.
Trump lawyer Evan Corcoran, who was ordered to testify before a grand jury by a judge after prosecutors pierced his attorney-client privilege claims, conveyed the previously unreported warning to the former president last year, according to the report. The warning "could be significant" in Smith's probe because it shows that he was aware of his subpoena obligations, according to the report.
"Trump knew. He's always known," tweeted MSNBC legal analyst Katie Phang.
The warning was included in about 50 pages of contemporaneous notes written by Corcoran.
Corcoran in June found about 40 classified documents in a Mar-a-Lago storage room. He met with Justice Department investigators and later drafted a letter affirming that no other materials were at the property. But the FBI later found about 100 more classified documents while executing a court-authorized warrant in August.
Prosecutors are investigating whether Trump intentionally sought to obstruct the subpoena. They have particularly "fixated" on Trump valet Walt Nauta, who told prosecutors that Trump personally told him to move boxes out of the storage room before and after the subpoena was issued.
Corcoran's notes "revealed how Trump and Nauta had unusually detailed knowledge of the botched subpoena response, including where Corcoran intended to search and not search for classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, as well as when Corcoran was actually doing his search," according to The Guardian's Hugo Lowell.
Though prosecutors are typically barred from reviewing attorney notes, Corcoran's attorney-client privilege claims were pierced after a judge agreed with prosecutors that Trump may have used Corcoran's legal services to further a crime.
The notes described how Corcoran told Nauta about the subpoena ahead of the search because he needed him to unlock the storage room, which prosecutors have taken a sign that the aide was closely involved in the search, according to the report. Corcoran also wrote that Nauta offered to help him go through the boxes, though the attorney declined.
Corcoran's notes also revealed that the search took several days and there were times when the storage room may have been left unattended during the search, according to the report.
Prosecutors would need to show that Trump instructed Nauta to remove boxes he expressly knew included classified documents covered by a subpoena with the intention of hiding them from his attorney's search, the report noted.
Trump's attorneys have argued that the subpoena response is incomplete because Corcoran was not as thorough as he should have been because he delayed the search and did not realize how many boxes were in the storage room.
The DOJ interviewed Nauta last year and believed that he was not forthcoming about his account of moving the boxes. Prosecutors threatened to charge Nauta with lying to the FBI after he gave contradictory answers but Nauta stopped cooperating with prosecutors after his lawyer demanded an immunity deal. Prosecutors have since asked other witnesses about what Nauta did with the boxes, according to the report.
"This is nothing more than a targeted, politically motivated witch-hunt against President Trump that is concocted to meddle in an election and prevent the American people from returning him to the White House," a Trump spokesperson told The Guardian.
MSNBC host Mike Brzezinski interviewed Lowell about his report, noting that "every time I read into this, I'm just shocked at the stupidity of those, honestly, of former President Trump, moving documents in and out of his office before and after the subpoena, and I guess having people do it for him."
Lowell explained that the previously unreported warning is a "problem for the former president."
"And it becomes a problem for his legal team and there's a whole bunch of other stuff in the notes about how the valet had unusually detailed knowledge about where the lawyer was conducting his searches for classified documents," he told MSNBC, "and I think the special counsel's office is looking at this as the core, the heart of the obstruction investigation."
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uboat53 · 2 years
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The news of the last week regarding former President Trump's possession of classified and sensitive national security documents really struck home for me, as I'm sure you've noticed from all I've been posting about it, and I thought I'd write up a bit of context for everyone as to why that is.
As some of you may know, I worked for the first three years of my career as a defense contractor developing documents and doing training for operations and maintenance on an army radar system at one of the largest defense companies in the country. In that capacity I never held a security clearance, but I did work with documents that were considered sensitive for national security.
While I was there, the video of a 2007 helicopter strike in Iraq that had killed several civilians including two Reuters journalists was leaked through Wikileaks. It was a major event for us and a good deal of changes were made to tighten up control of sensitive and classified information in the company including a good deal of additional training in properly handling such information.
(I should briefly mention my personal opinion which is that, though I agree with the things that certain leakers like Mr. Snowden and Ms. Manning leaked, the government's response is also correct legally. In my opinion, what they did was morally correct and legally incorrect, which is exactly the situation for a presidential pardon if we could ever get a President with the courage to do so.)
That's how I can tell you with absolute certainty that, had I chosen to take any of the information I worked with there home with me, I would probably have been arrested and served many years in jail and rightly so. I was very aware of this the entire time I worked there as was everyone else I worked with and we were very careful to ensure that we did not do anything that would have risked revealing the information we worked with. We would travel for work quite often, and when we did we would be given fresh laptops with only the minimum required stuff installed on it. They would then be encrypted and we would be given the access codes which we were only to use when in a secure environment such as an army base.
I also recall that we had a contractor come by for a site visit. He stayed for about a week and had not been fully cleared even for sensitive information, so our information security was extremely strict during that time. If he entered a room or cubicle, we had to immediately power off any screens so that he couldn't see any information. While he was on site, one of our employees was assigned to shadow him, basically be attached at the hip. If the guy went somewhere, our guy went with him, if he went to the bathroom, our guy went too.
So I'm not sure exactly how clear it is from the outside, but the government really does not mess around with national security documents. And from the outside I'm sure all of that sounds crazy, but you have to understand the kind of information we're dealing with. The radar system I worked on was capable of tracking and plotting the trajectory of artillery shells (this information is public, don't worry that I'm giving away things here, I wouldn't do that). To the best of my knowledge, no other country has such a system and it's definitely something we don't want Russia or China getting a hold of.
As you can see, when I heard that former President Trump had not only had possession of documents with the top classification in the United States government but had, for some reason, kept those stored in a poolside supply room without so much as a lock on the door for well over a year… well… yeah… my eyebrows literally raised when I heard that.
There's been a bunch of excuses offered for why he did it and why it's okay that he did it, but they're so far from covering all the bases that it's truly shocking. I mean, even if he had somehow declassified the documents while he was still in office (though there's no record that he did) it wouldn't matter. These are clearly marked documents and, even if the markings had been updated, they contain sensitive national security information.
As President, sure, he absolutely had the authority to do whatever he wanted with them, but he hasn't been President for over a year and a half now. President Biden hasn't even seen fit to extend him a security clearance as former President, so his ability to view and possess such information is literally the same as yours and mine. If a private citizen has marked classified documents (regardless of whether they were declassified, a document must be treated as classified until the markings are updated) and especially if they store them in an insecure location, there are severe penalties for that, usually involving multiple years in jail per document.
I watched it happen with Sandy Berger, again with Chelsea Manning, again with Edward Snowden, and again with Reality Winner, just to name a few. The government does not mess around when it comes to national security and there's far less ambiguity with regard to the handling of sensitive and classified information than there is with most of the other crimes that former President Trump is suspected of.
That's why my eyebrows raised when I heard about this. It may seem like a small thing if you've never worked in the national security field, but this is easily the most dangerous legal issue that Mr. Trump faces and, if they're at the point of publicly searching his personal residence, the investigation is pretty far along.
Hope you enjoyed this or at least found it interesting.
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