#fgo chiron

[kiwikipedia]

Now I’m Not Saying That I Should Be Allowed To Design Servants For Fate, But....

Summer Unit, Caster Chiron has Arrived! As the immortal Caretaker and Teacher of Mount Pelion, there’s little doubt that he knows all the tips and tricks to survive a coastal month in the sun. What’s that? The Constellation is wrong? Sagittarius? Don’t be silly, Chiron’s always embodied the Constellation Centaurus. Always.

Costume Dress(es), Individual Stills for the new Sprites (Asc 3), Notes, and Taglist below the cut :)

That "Always" bit is meant to be somewhat ominous which hints at the whole "rewriting and creating heroes" idea in my last post about this Eternal Summer Stage event.

And if i am to be 100% honest, I don't quite like the final result still in terms of the toga, however, I know that if I keep working on it it will never get done and that's just the way that artists are lol. The effects and everything else though? Beyond what I was even expecting for it to turn out as.

Anywho.

In terms of design, I was mostly just going for the "Dad who has the Cooler" with a casual look for the first two designs and the costume dress really isn't a drastic change either just being called Hatless. The final ascension was a more divine feel where you get that connection with the stars and space that Chiron has due to his constellations. The Costume change there is just "Divine Blessing". I honestly couldn't pick between the two colors so. Costume Dress.

So. Anyways. Each of the stars in the final ascension design are the major "Centauri" stars within Centaurus, the Constellation that Chiron/his NP is embodying here rather than Sagittarius.

The large star that Chiron has in hand is Theta Centauri, also called Menkent, and then the ones on the staff are Alpha-Gamma Centauri.

The top three stars are Alpha Centauri or Rigil Kentaurus and Toliman, and Proxima Centauri. The three make up the full Alpha Centauri as the two blue stars are a binary system that Proxima orbits

The middle two are Beta Centauri or Hadar and Agena, another binary star pair

The lower two are Gamma Centauri which is another binary star group but are unnamed

Actually, the myth of Centaurus is a little wonky because certain texts refer to Centaurus as the Father of all Centaurs and the constellation is because he put an image of himself in the sky where others point to it being the other constellation that Zeus turned Chiron into instead of Sagittarius. Honestly, I'm more inclined to the latter due to conflicting texts about mount Pelion and the Centaurs themselves as it's implied that Chiron was already on Pelion before the other Centaurs arrived in some texts

("The Kentauroi were spawned by the cloud-nymph Nephele after she was violated by the impious Lapith king Ixion. She deposited her double-formed brood on Mount Pelion where they were nursed by the daughters of the immortal kentauros Kheiron (Chiron).")

So at least in this/my version of Myth/Fate, Centaurus is Chiron as a Caster and Healer but no less a teacher, rather than the more combat-ready and "war-like" Sagittarius.

I don't have everything mapped out, but I do have skills and NP sorta created, if I actually ever get to the full thing, who is to say lmao.

1st Skill: Seaside Planning

Buffs Healing Skill (self), Attack up (all units)

2nd Skill: Teacher's Guiding Hand

Target Focus (1 turn), Invincibility (1 turn), Defense up for all units, Battlefield change to Forest

3rd Skill: Blessing of Artemis / Blessing of Apollo (costume change)

Applies "Blessings of the Moon" or “Blessings of the Sun” to all units ( Defense Up, Heal Per Turn, NP gain Up, Crit Up)

Noble Phantasm: Hunt of Lupus: Protector of Mount Pelion | Quick

Rank: A NP Type: Anti-Personnel Range: 5-99 Maximum Targets: 1

A single target Noble Phantasm much like Antares Snipe, however, while Sagittarius uses a bow, Centaurus uses his staff to sweep through and pierce the body of Lupus. This is the story of Chiron. However, here, his job is not finished. The slaying of "Lupis" ends, and thus the Teacher and protector of Pelion returns to those he protects and tends to them.

At its base, one could call it the Single Target version of Geronimo's Tsago Degi Naleya in which it deals damage and heals the party after.

"Entrust to me the stars and my Guiding hand shall lead you, o watchmen of the night. I encircle myself twice with the seven heavenly bodies so that I may continue my role among the stars. You who has woken me, fall. Hunt of Lupus."

Truth be told, still workshopping the Noble Phantasm, but it's fine, it's out there as a concept. It's a lot like Antares Snipe though, I guess? Because I did want to lean into the Greek and Constellation side of things and just. Oh well. Originally, though, I was going to make Chiron and Chariclo one Servant, and then have their Noble Phantasm be Chariclo's ("Lifeblood of Mount Pelion") but then split them up because idk I enjoy hell. They're both casters though, because I refuse to put more Rulers into the already bloated Ruler cast.

I do not have voice lines at the moment despite the fact that I have all of Chariclo and all of Agravain's finished lol

Taglist Form or feel free to ask me to get tagged (just DM!):

@jedifisto​​ @spaceydragons​​ @purgetrooperfox​​ @spacerocksarethebestrocks​ @insanelytomato @babygirljoelmiller @certified-anakinfucker @d3epfriedanger @thecodyagenda @babygirl-leon-kennedy​ @txtalnyx​ @jawajawas​ @ge-ge-ge-ge-genifer

Please tell me if you want to be taken off of the list as this is no longer just Star Wars art

Additional Tags for those who have been interested in Summer Chiron previously (i hope you dont mind):

@300iqprower @bitterrosebrokenspear

#Kiwi Creates #fgo chiron #Chiron #fate chiron #fgo fan singularity #fgo fan event #fgo #fate go #fate grand order #fate #archer of black #FGO Male Swimsuit Event #FGO Male Servant Alt #Eternal Summer Stage (Fan Event) #Gonna take a break for a bit in terms of sprite editing but next is either Chariclo or Li Shuwen perhaps. gotta figure out designs #edit: changed skill 3 gonna give Inhabitant of Mount Pelion to Chariclo

[aliciabell]

#art #fgo #fate grand order #oc #original character #digital art #angelica avia #comic #meme #chiron #fgo chiron #fate chiron #they literally just had seggs before getting into the car #angie is really wild #rip that horse cock #either way #they got mcdonalda afterwards #she is satisfied for now #... atleast.

[orchestrated-haunting]

“man, not again”

#fate grand order #fate/go #fate/grand order #fgo #fate achilles #fate chiron #fate hector #fgo achilles #fgo chiron #fgo hector #orchestrated art #fate fanart

[careyfell59]

Finally! I got him

#fgo #my art #art #fgo fanart #fanart #fate grand order #fate go #fate series #fgo fate grand order #fgo​ fanart #fgo voyager #fgo super orion #fgo dioscuri #fgo chiron

[300iqprower]

Hypothetical Rank Up No. 50: Chiron

[I really don’t know why i do these but i’ve racked up 50, somehow. I was considering doing some special revisit or whatever but I ended up just doing the only Apocrypha servant left that I think only needs 1 rank up, since i really do need to stop getting sidetracked from my impromptu “all of Apoc gang” thing and it lets me still have number 50 be its own post. We can just say it's my official catalyst for the only Argonaut I still need now that I have Asclepius.]

Mind’s Eye (True) A > Mentor’s Insight A++

Apply Evade to self (1 turn). Increase own DEF (3 turns).^ Increase HP Recovery Amount for all allies (5 turns). Decrease own Critical Star Gather Rate by 100% (3 turns). Decrease Skill Cooldown for another ally by 2 turns. [This unit can only be selected if there are no other allies] If selected ally is a [Prophesized Hero] Servant: - Apply Target Focus to self (1 turn) - Decrease your Skill Cooldowns by 1 turn. - Increase own NP Strength (1 time, 3 turns).

[Prophesized Hero] servants: Mash Kyrielight, Artoria, Artoria lily, Artoria Archer, Castoria, Lalter, Gilgamesh, Casgil, Atalante, Nyalter, Cu Chulainn, Cascu, Proto Cu, Georgios, Ushiwakamaru, Summer Ushiwakamaru, Heracles, Lancelot, Saberlot, Sakata Kintoki, Rider Kintoki, Hektor, Diarmuid, Saber Diarmuid, Arjuna, Karna, Santa Karna, Fionn Mac Cumhaill, Beowulf, Astolfo, Edmond Dantes, Rama, Sanzang, Sitonai, Minamoto no Raikou, Tristan, Gawain, Saint Martha, Ruler Martha, William Tell, Siegfried, Archer of Shinjuku, Yan Qing, Proto Arthur, Penthesilia, Musashi, Nezha, Achilles, Okita Alter, Sigurd, Bradamante, Asvathaman, Asclepius, Jason, Paris, Spishtar, MHX, MHXX, Mandricardo, Odysseus, Dioscuri, Caeneus, Watanabe no tsuna, Percival, Rider Caeneus, Jiang Ziya, Charlemagne, Roland, Kriemhild, Don Quixote, Super Orion

SO WITH THAT OUT OF THE WAY

Chiron rank up! Make him all about that Mind's Eye with a bread and butter skill! Sometimes the best thing for gameplay is to spread it all out over their kit. Other times, I find it much more fun to have that one skill everything revolves around. That's what this would be. Originally I was going to reduce the cooldown from 8/7/6 to 7/6/5, make the gather down 2 turns instead of 3, and make the cooldown recovery 1 turn for both of your other allies, but then I ended up deciding instead to make it more targeted so that I could add several effects for if Chiron fulfills his role as a mentor of heroes, IE the selected target is a servant who qualifies for that list of somewhat archetypical mythological heroes.

Flavor wise, it's a simple matter of Chiron using his divine wisdom to both defend himself (Mind's Eye True) and to employ a much more powerful version of the Coaching skill (WHY OUT OF ALL THE MENTOR SERVANTS IS THE ONLY ONE WITH A DEDICATED MENTOR SKILL MAID ALTER?!?!) and reduce an ally's cooldowns sharply while also lowering Chiron's normally quite high star gather to nothing so his allies can more easily crit (which also internally synergizes well with his AOE crit up and star bomb second skill) and using his medical knowledge to increase the effectiveness of all healing received by allies, though he's reliant on said allies to actually provide the healing. Taking is a step further, Chiron cannot use his cooldown reduction on himself unless he is solo, and if the servant to receive his mentoring is an actual mythological hero just like the ones he trained, then Chiron's own legend is amplified and he gains several more effects. He shields his allies (apply target focus), is more in his comfort zone teaching them (reduce own cooldowns by 1), and fulfills his divine duty as a mentor of heroes thereby strengthen the constellation he became as a reward for his service to said heroes (NP strength up).

Balancing wise it also gets pretty crazy. Out of all freaking EIGHT of these effects, less than half of them would scale with level, and one of them is Healing Up on a servant with no healing skills so really it's more like two and a half. In exchange, those remaining skills would scale IMMENSELY high, and the reduced cooldown on its own is partially worth leveling for given the potential uptime on the skills and the increased frequency of the non-scaling utility effects. The defense buff would go from a 20% max to a maximum of 35%, the potential NP Strength buff would be a maximum of 50%, and the at its best the HP Recovery Up would be a whopping 100%, effectively turning it into something that means under ideal conditions as long as Chiron is on the field all healing the team receives is doubled. The defense buff in particular is of note because it means that not only does the evade synergize well with the potential target focus, but it also means even against (the nowadays VERY frequent) Ignore Invincible, Chiron would still be able to properly tank hits for allies. The NP Strength up is a one time buff and Chiron generally lacks any personal stims, meaning even if Chiron can get good refund you'll be using that for the utility more than damage the second time. It's still high enough however that between Chiron's damage rank up and supereffective against Earth bonuses, that first NP can easily deal meaningful damage

(PS: do let me know if you think another servant should be included in the "Prophesized Hero" category and if so why; I based this list on people who fulfil the idea of the archetypical "Hero's journey")

#artist: no-kan #artist: 69019613 #fate chiron #fgo chiron #archer of black #fgo #fate grand order #fgo meta #hypothetical rank ups #he's probably only ever gonna have one more rate up but he's also unlimited so ya know.....though he hasnt shown up regardless.....

[lycantragedy]

I won’t lie I’m sad he’ll be off my grind team for a while, but his CE is one of my favourites and I’m glad to finally have it:’)

#fgo #fgo Chiron #Achilles’ grass hair is taking me out so badly. deeply unserious haircut

[nu-omicron-alpha-eta]

Fate Grand Order Servant Comparisons

Chiron

Left - FGO

Right - Attic Red Figure Amphora ca 520 B.C.

#fate grand order #fgo #fate apocrypha #chiron #chiron fate #fate chiron #fgo chiron #chiron fgo #fate apocrypha chiron #chiron fate apocrypha #greek mythology

[wisdom-t3a]

even without context this is the dumbest thing i've made. anyway chiron #1 milf lets gooo

the context:

#i really love fate dialogue #fgo #fate grand order #fate apocrypha #fgo fanart #fanart #chiron #achilles #jack the ripper #my art #wisdomdraws

[otaku-tactician]

Fate/ grand drawing challenge 2024

Chiron and Shakespeare in Demon Costumes

Outfits from:

I am a bit concerned though, the image on the left looks ai generated :( such a cool outfit though

#fate series #fate/ grand drawing challenge #chiron #shakespeare #personal on fgo #demon art #LMAO THIS ONE WAS ANOTHER RANDOM CHALLENGE BUT THEY ACTUALLY SUIT THESE OUTFIT

[radroller]

*grins at Jason*

#stephen plays fgo #chiron

[typemoonsmashorpass]

#chiron #fate apocrypha #fate grand order #fgo

[kiwikipedia]

i forgot but last year I made some lazy edits of Fate and Hades because I think it's bullshit that Hektor wasn't there. Maybe he'll show up in Hades II with Chiron and Circe too lol

#yeah yeah chiron's in the sky in myth shut up I want horse dad to show up anyways #i might do like #actual hades art style versions #ive done it before #do i want to subject myself to it again is the question #kiwi creates #hades #fgo #fate #fate grand order #fgo hector #fgo circe #fgo chiron #hektor of troy #chiron #circe

[aliciabell]

Them ❤

#chiron #fgo #fgo chiron #fgo oc #oc

[backflipstowardstheroot]

#fate grand order #fgo #chiron #Cu Chulainn #achilles

[king-k-ripple]

#fate apocrypha #fate #fate series #fgo #fate grand order #alignment chart #anime #anime memes #memes #chiron #siegfried #astolfo #mordred #shakespeare #spartacus #avicebron #karna #semiramis

[300iqprower]

Chiron deserves an alter. Idk how to explain it but Dantes inferno got me thinking... not to mention he was commonly associated with delivering the dead and I know lasagna/delight works won't implement that with the whole fuckable teacher with Chiron's name on it so give him an alter.

A summer alter who looks slutty as fuck.

I need more male servants I'm sorry for that.

well, on the one hand, I'm sorry to tell you anon that Charon, the ferryman of the underworld, and Chiron, centaur mentor of greek heroes, are two completely different beings.

However, I have good news, in that considering:

there is a historical record of people making this mix up

FGO's love of in-jokes

and the fact that as the son of Erebus and Nyx Charon is as pure a divine spirit as the Olympians themselves

if we ever DID get Charon it probably WOULD be Chiron Alter with the Alter aspect resulting from Charon hijacking his spirit origin as a vessel. It helps that Charon was portrayed as a bitter person, demanding coins out of spite rather than actual greed. If you didn't have a coin, it meant you hadn't received proper funeral rites, and so Charon had an excuse to completely ignore you. Plenty of your typical AlterAngstTM to work with and the embittered ferryman makes a nice parallel to the selfless mentor Chiron. There's even minor parallels like both being inhuman, Chiron being a centaur and Charon being twisted and grotesque hence his robes that covered his entire body and face. Chiron became a constellation in the heavens while Charon ferried people in the underworld for eternity. Etc.

What I'm getting at is we could totally get Summer in the Underworld where Charon, as Chiron, is, er, 'flaunting' the fact he's finally in a body he can flaunt at all.

#hopefully a whole lot better written than Christmas in the Underworld of course #beach party at the river styx #4 star summer Esh. #it writes itself #fgo #fgo headcanons #never thought i'd get an ask #fate chiron #archer of black #fgo chiron #greek mythology