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barghest-land · 2 months
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do u ever just feel like drawing a fish
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tyxaar · 1 month
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If I had a diamond for every Hermit that's started some weird religion, I'd have over 10 just off the top of my head. This is not concerning.
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shiftythrifting · 3 months
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Metal fish sign and a Disney Vacation Planning VHS, goodwill in Indiana
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one-time-i-dreamt · 2 years
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God was a huge long fish with a hundred fins, and was being kept in a mile long tank by a seafood restaurant that was using it as publicity.
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secondwheel · 3 months
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21st century Jesus feeds the five thousand
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luvelii · 3 months
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Dungeon meshi has wonderful and thought out world building but the inherent creator bias still shows through sometimes in small funny ways
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entity9silvergen · 1 month
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By: Frederick R. Prete
Published: Feb 11, 2024
About the Author
Frederick Prete is a biopsychologist in the Dept. of Biology at Northeastern Illinois University. He teaches courses in neurobiology, and human and animal physiology. He has also served as an associate editor for the International Journal of Comparative Psychology. Prete writes about how people use and misuse biology to support their social and political points of view. 
Other essays by Prete can be found on his Substack Everything Is Biology.
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The contemporary “debate” (if one can call it that) surrounding the biology of sex suffers from a lack of intellectual seriousness on one side. The arguments forwarded by those insisting on the non-binary nature of sex often demonstrate a rudimentary understanding of basic biology, or are so comically nonsensical that one wonders whether they’re even worth responding to. Academic biologists engaging with gender activists’ arguments for the so-called “sex spectrum” are like mathematicians engaging with numerologists (individuals who believe in a mystical relationship between numbers and coinciding events) or geologists debating Flat Earthers. However, given that sex pseudoscience has somehow taken over academia, serious scholars now find themselves compelled to engage with the absurd.
One such example is the bizarre suggestion that because some fish can literally change sex during their lifetime, then perhaps humans can too. This idea, while absurd on its face, is far from fringe. It has been given credence by popular science outlets like Scientific American, which highlighted the sex-changing abilities of clown fish “to emphasize the diversity of ways in which sexual beings move through the world.” Even the United Kingdom’s national library posted (and later deleted) a thread on X during Pride Month last year about the sex-changing abilities of the Māori wrasse, and Greenpeace made a similar move in 2021.
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What relevance does LGBTQ+ Pride Month have to sex-changing fish unless there’s an intention to suggest that these examples illuminate the potential for sex changes in humans? But if activists insist on making such far-fetched comparisons, they should be challenged to follow their logic to its ultimate conclusion.
Let’s be honest, animals do a lot of weird things. They enslave other animals, eat their offspring, cannibalize their lovers, kill their newborn twin sisters, and devour their siblings in the womb. Do any of these activists want to justify slavery or embryonic cannibalism because animals do it? Probably not. But it’s equally silly to claim that we can derive grand lessons about human biology and sexual behavior from animals. Male octopuses, for instance, grab a packet of their own sperm with one of their tentacles, shove inside a female’s mantle cavity, and drop it next to her oviduct. This hardly seems like a behavior humans should try to emulate. Are there any objections? Why, then, would we think that fish sexual biology is a better model for us humans than that of octopuses?
What’s more, it frustrates me that those who continuously discuss sex changes in fish don’t get the fish-sex story straight in the first place. In reality, sex changes among the roughly 20 families and seven orders of teleost fish are driven by physiological and hormonal events that are triggered—depending on the species—by factors such as body size, perceived social status, or (in the monogamous clown fish Amphiprioninae) the disappearance of the large, breeding female. It’s also the case that those big, newly minted, dominant female clown fish are viciously aggressive to any fish they do not recognize as part of their group. So, if we’re taking our cues from clown fish, let’s not be hypocritical—let’s go all the way and demand that only extremely large, dominant, hyper-monogamous people who are particularly xenophobic should consider a sex change, and only after all the other females in the neighborhood have vanished. Does that sound reasonable? (I trust you realize I am being facetious here)
It should go without saying, but it appears that some still need a reminder: people are not fish. Fish live in the water. People live on land. When it comes to sex and reproduction, this makes all the difference in the world. In aquatic environments, you can simply release your gametes (eggs and sperm) into the water and let them drift around until they hook up. That’s because, in water, they won’t dry out and die. And neither will your embryos because they’ll be in the water, too. This is why so many fish can produce eggs or sperm at different times in their lives. It doesn’t take any specialized external organs to squirt gametes into the water, just a gonad for gamete production and an orifice for release.
However, the whole situation changes if you live on dry land. As mammals evolved for terrestrial life, they had to acquire adaptations—both structural and behavioral—to prevent their gametes and embryos from drying out. You can’t simply drop your sperms and eggs on the ground and hope for the best. So, male terrestrial animals evolved specialized external body parts for transferring sperm directly into females, who, in turn, have evolved body parts designed for receiving sperm and a chamber for nurturing the developing embryo until it is ready for life on dry land. Additionally—and equally important—both males and females evolved complementary neuromuscular behavioral patterns that allow them to court and mate successfully.
That’s why terrestrial mammals can’t change sex like some fish do. Such a transformation would require females to spontaneously sprout some kind of tube for internal sperm delivery, and males would need to somehow develop a complementary orifice. Moreover—and more importantly—both males and females would need to develop all the necessary internal parts and “plumbing” to make these external structures functional. It’s insufficient to merely alter the appearance of external structures, which can be done surgically (even on pets). A terrestrial animal transitioning from a female to a male would also require developing a complex duct system linking the gonads to the external tube, along with glands to secrete a carrying fluid and nutrients for the sperm (i.e., the Wolffian duct system, prostate, and bulbourethral glands). Going from male to female would involve developing some kind of organ to catch the eggs when they get released into the abdominal cavity, retain them until they encounter sperm, and then house the resulting embryo while it develops (these are derivatives of the Müllerian duct system).
Obviously, none of this could happen. When it comes to mammals, the die is cast prenatally. So, whatever fish do is their business and has absolutely nothing to do with terrestrial mammals. So, let’s drop the clown fish and Asian sheepshead wrasse analogies. Anybody who brings them up simply doesn’t understand evolutionary biology. It is futile to engage in discussions based on such analogies unless, of course, you’re one of those people who think that because some animals reproduce parthenogenically, humans should simply stop having sex altogether and hope for the best.
I want to make it clear that I have a deep understanding and empathy for those of us, including myself, who do not fit the popular stereotypes of any category or group. Throughout my life, I have received what seems to be an unrelenting stream of criticism for the fact that I was never (and still am not) perceived as representative of the norm (whatever that is). Consequently, I grew up defending those who were similarly targeted, and I believe that each of us should be continually mindful and accepting of the rich diversity of the human condition. Each of us should actively and consciously strive to be as compassionate, accepting, supportive, and inclusive as possible.
However, doing so does not require us to abandon reason, turn our backs on biology, or unhinge ourselves from reality.
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spotsupstuff · 9 months
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uhh.... hand mutilation?
indeedy! i've already posted about it i think but here's it again:
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this shit sussy as hell to me ☝ and mutilation of body parts for whatever reason isn't such an unheard of thing irl either
it's not mendatory when one is living on top of the iterators/striving towards the religion and some May choose to rather wrap their hands up, but it is pretty common to cut the fingers off up there. some would rather do That to visually signal how good religious followers they are than actually work on themselves thru worship and other religion stuff. it's like a performance for everyone else, almost
the hands stuff in the oc lore is: • five fingered - the base for "higher" beings (aka sapient creatures capable of worship stationed on the planet) • three/four fingered - animalistic/way below the worshipping sapient creatures • fingerless hands - dedication to the religion in the form of renouncing using/taking anything the world has to offer. separation from the physical world is the whole theme of the Sins so goin as far as putting the body thru smth like that fits in real well
they sometimes take off the whole upper part of the hand (so half palm gone) or even the whole thing goes off. also thinkin that maybe the predecessor to this was just cutting the tendons that make the fingies move
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gaywarcriminals · 8 months
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Cursed AU idea:
Stringent atheist/ bible anti-fan Shen Yuan transmigrates into his [least] favorite book as God, and is forced to cast his favorite character, Luo Binghsatan, out of Heaven.
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illustratus · 1 year
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Landscape with Tobias laying hold of the Fish
by Domenichino
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meirimerens · 6 months
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going through pdfs and an autism moment the levels of which you've never seen and i'm reminded of the multiple buryat creation myths in which the lake (baikal) plays such an important role (because. they live here) and in which the buryats are descendants of swans... and thinking about how patho (inspired by this culture among others) completely lacks both A Lake and anything related to swans, with birds appearing as the muu shubuun "wicked birds" (another mongolic + turkic (mu shuvuu) folklore figure that is different in patho than it is irl)(i would say. yeah obviously), plague-bearers, etc. you got the Gorkhon which is river and not lake, which could be an equivalence, but rivers & lakes typically have different places in animist beliefs, often have different gender identifications as well, and the Kin does not have the same relationship to the river as the people of the region have with Baikal...
also the concept of sky-dwellers/sky-divers/generally Brother There's Something Up There with the head of the pantheon/all-progenitor being sky-bound ("the heavens" comes up often) is almost completely absent from the Kin's religious background, and most of the -dwelling is one in/within the Earth, with Bos Turokh literally being the land and Boddho being explicitely an earth-mother-goddess, and rather it being Suok associated with air.
that's fascinating how this like very prominent part of mongolic culture, whether attributed to Tengri or to Lama for the buddhist parts of it or Esege/Esege Malan is absent from the Kin's culture that's inspired by those and almost flipped on its head completely.
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mishkakagehishka · 8 months
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I dreamt that there was some sort of horror(?) spin-off for enstars. Btw. It was like neat, but so stressful. So stressful. It was like, short story, takes place in an art gallery??? One of them gets incredibly pissed off and you have a set amount of time to find weapons and a strategy before you have to face them in a closed space. Makoto had a sniper (?? In a CLOSED SPACE????) and the strategy for him was to point lasers at his eyes to stun him and then beat the shit out of him. If you even care.
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shiveertribune · 6 months
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is it even an animal jam restaurant roleplay if your best friend of 10 minutes doesnt get accidentally murdered by a cop?
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vegance · 2 years
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i think it’s very interesting how for a lot of people, fish are pretty far back in line when they (first) consider animal ethics, vegetarianism and veganism.
despite the fact that we kill ~2 trillion of these sentient beings. every single year. probably more if we count "by-catch", illegal fishing. and many, if not most of them received insufficient or no stunning before being killed.
the scale of cruelty, death and destruction in the fishing industry is unfathomable (including the many human rights violations and the effect it has on the climate and environment)
this issue should never be second row when it comes to animal rights
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w0rmteeth · 1 year
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