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bunny-banana · 1 year
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me: its just a silly singing competition its not that deep
also me: i'm gonna physically throw up if Finland doesn't win
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beuncle · 1 year
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single dad roy au. i've been thinking about it
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waru-chan8 · 1 year
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This serie will be reminded for everything except for the basketball: - bad decisions - a fight on the court - A an needed medical attention - fans being removed from the stadium
Just what i like about basketball (sarcasm)
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txttletale · 15 days
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What are your thoughts (lorewise) on Warhammer fantasy so far and what's your favorite faction
i love skaven. ive been a skaven fan for like 20000 years ever since i briefly played actual tabletop. they're just funny little guys :)
when warhammer is good it's because it's embracing its original 80s gonzo spirit of 'just throw any old pop cultuire shit in there and figure it out later' -- i love how the skaven are, like, cartoon mad scientists with nuclear power and genetic engineering and also stupid rats who love scheming and betrayal anbd they waltz around with giant fucking flesh monsters and gatling guns and Combat Hamster Wheels. ther'es other stuff in this vein that's good too: orcs being english football hooligans is never going to stop delighting me, the tomb kings are a really cool concept, the vampire pirates (as far as i'm aware a CA invention?) are so fucking goofy and they rule so so hard.
overall though there's al ot of really really uncomfortable undertones to the world of warhammer fantasy. first of all there is the straight up racist shit, i love the lizardmen (i am currently deep into a mazdamundi campaign) and some of their lore is really interesting and in some ways avoids some of the common pitfalls of 'fantasy indigenous peoples'--it's made very clear they are an advanced society, technologically and socially complex, with a rich culture and history. but the lazy aping and blending of half-remembered maya/aztec aesthetics and the '''''funny''''' joke names they have and the fact that they are ancient and mystical and Not Of This Age just adds up to them being a really racist caricature of mesoamerican societies.
also WHF leans really really really hard into the biological determinism stuff. i love the skaven but the fact that they're a rapidly breeding menace that secretly infiltrates your cities and kidnaps people and gorge themselves on resources and have an Evil Religion and are As A Race predisposed to treachery and viciousness and are depicted as literal vermin brings to mind yknow the place all these tropes hold in the racist and antisemitic cultural imaginary and it definitely makes me kind of uncomfortable. i think the same can be said of the (also straight-up racist) depiction of beastmen as Tribes and Hordes that are very literally More Animal Than Human. like, there's so much of That Shit, of X Race are Biologically Fundamentally Like This, and the Like This often happens to coincide with a constellation of tropes used to demonize and justify the extermination of real people, and i really hate That Shit.
i also find the (also quite typical of fantasy) Order (Good) and Chaos (Evil) moral distinction to be pretty ideologically repugnant
so overall, yknow. mixed feelings innit. that said i'm having an absolute blast with TWWH2 this shit rules im driving my big dinosaur around and eating mother fuckers
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postoctobrist · 3 months
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Alice I have to ask, what with Dave Courtney and football hooligans being my main understanding of real life British crime- are/were there any actually dangerous and imposing organized crime figures and/or syndicates? Like, even Japan has the Yakuza
oh yeah we do actually have real criminals
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More and more each day the UK becomes a worse parody of the US political landscape.
I wish I was fucking joking
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this woman is actually off her fucking rocker i swear to god,
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This woman got in trouble because parents started suing her for mistreatment of the children under her care, she also in the article goes on to say that supporting England was seen as odd in areas proportionally ethnic and made up of immigrants as if said people don't likely have a home country separate to England or that England fans - and in saying this I am talking exclusively about the ones that engage in football hooliganism of the 'make racist taunts and actions when black football players don't play how they want them too' variety- have been more and more associated with white nationalism in recent years.
I'm not a parent, but I am someone who very recently came out of the England educational system and I can verify that she's talking utter nonsense.
I did not learn about the slave trade in school, or the imperialism of the British Empire - or about the empire full stop. I was expected to know those things because every level of school expects the other to teach it to you. I was not taught about LGBTQIA+ in school, in fact in ethics I was explicitly compelled to debate the legality of it, and if it could ever really be marriage if it was a same sex union through an exclusively Christian lens.
I was not taught about gender, other than the standardized punnet square level things that are on standard material, I was not taught about ethnic diversity or anything in relation to people that were not *like me* that is to say, white. Even in regards to subjects where we studied actual complex topics - such as media pieces that were anti-capitalist- my teacher implored us to keep any mention of socialism and especially marxism out of our analysis since they 'weren't allowed' to talk to us about stuff like that even at ages 16-18. At ages where I could have sex; vote; get married with parental permission if I so wished. But I could not be spoken to about things such as socialsm.
Because that is how 'woke' the British school system is. The idea of teaching people - not children because they always frame it as if little 6 year old Cathy is being sat down and told about the intricacies' of lesbian sex orgies when in reality some of the things they suggest are being taught are part of government approved curriculum for GCSE and A level which puts you firmly between the ages of 14-18- real facts of the world they live in is so shocking and horrific that they can't handle it.
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mitskijamie · 9 months
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it's insane how jamie is very much a Lad. yet he also isn't. he manages to make a separate gender that is so...... Jamie. he goes to select his gender for any new account he's made and one of options is jamie fucking tartt. give us him not being phased by someone referring to him as she/he/they because he's Jamie.
Yeah <3 He's a lad who is also a princess and a football hooligan and a dog. That's real modern gender. That's just how it is <3
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f0point5 · 6 months
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The people saying that the booing is an American thing makes me so mad. Charles last year having to tell the Tifosi to stop??? Also the fact that British football is KNOWN for its chants and boos?? I hate the booing don’t get me wrong, people being immature and having the inability to be normal about sports annoys me beyond belief, but be so real right now. This is not an American thing.
Yeah idk how people think it’s American unless they didn’t notice that they muted the crowd in Silverstone and Monza this year.
But what about Mexico last year?
I won’t even start to British sport culture I will get nauseous.
But yeah every country has hooligans and unserious people who like to behave like that.
I don’t know how people enjoy that
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twothpaste · 3 months
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Essential world building question; who in your intermission au smokes weed or would try it given the chance (besides Kuma of course)
Aw hell yeah, essential indeed! Answers below the cut:
Kumatora's whole family smokes, often as a communal activity when they get together. She grew up familiar with the stuff, it's no wonder where she gets it. She enjoys a fat doobie or perhaps a pot brownie pretty regularly.
Lucas likes weed. It especially helps ease his anxiety and stress. He will smoke with Kuma, Duster, and/or DCMC on occasion, but prefers baking his own edibles. I think his tolerance is actually kinda low - if he gets too high he Will start getting scared. Thankfully he's quite mindful of his limits.
Claus has tried weed multiple times, desperately hoping to enjoy it with his loved ones & reap some of the benefits his brother talks about, but truth be told? He can hardly stand it! He gets restless and uneasy, it messes with his dissociative symptoms. Being under the influence of any substance makes him feel like he isn't in control, which scares him :( Sometimes he'll try Lucas' edibles if they're dosed real low. Otherwise, he's given up and learned to avoid it.
Duster smokes and eats so much weed. He even dabbles in hemp products galore, for pain and stress management. If Wess had any idea, the old man would be popping blood vessels about it. I think Duster smoked his first blunt at like age 36 with OJ n' the boys, and never looked back.
Hinawa used to smoke mad pot, but stopped when she n' Flint decided to start a family. She got Flint in on it with her for a little bit, when they were just a couple young hooligans gallivanting about in Tennessee. He did enjoy it with her, but not alone or with anyone else - so he hasn't touched the stuff since she passed away. I think his family was a lot more straightedge than hers (wrt weed at least...). Needless to say, Grandpa Alec was and is an absolute pothead.
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Jeff has tried weed at least once. Didn't really see the appeal. Straight-faced, unimpressed, "Eh, it's nothing special." If a friend offered it, he probably wouldn't be opposed. But he's not really itching to try it again.
Poo has considered it - might be a pleasant relief from his nonstop responsibilities - but he is genuinely terrified if he tries weed even once he'll become hopelessly hooked on it. He doesn't want to know what he's missing, lest he dampen his life's ambitions and disappoint his family and so on and so forth. (He will probably try it in his 30's or 40's and go "Ah. This rather nice." And it'll be utterly unremarkable.)
Ness and Paula are straight-laced rosy-cheeked good little suburban kids turned upstanding college students, god forbid they ever even dare to look at a marijuana leaf.
Porky boasts that he has done weed (and various other drugs he heard about on podcasts). In reality, he has never touched any illicit substances, and would be scared to do so.
Picky smoked pot once with some other kids behind the football field at his high school. He coughed a lot, and didn't like it very much. Lardna smelled it on him and yelled at him. His stepdad, Mr. Prettyman, sat down beside him later and lectured him gently on the dangers of drugs, in an "anti-drug campaign for elementary schoolers" kinda way, rather than a sensible adult to a teenager kinda way. Picky decided then and there he'd never do it again. Not worth the hassle. Jeez.
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Episode 4: Snapping Turtles vs Bumblebees
Hello Witherburn!
Football has been the talk of the town this week since we are going to play South Magnolia, our rivals, tonight. And don’t worry I’ll be giving updates for those that couldn’t make the game even though I don’t get football. But I still have actual news to report this week such as the disappearance of Jonathan Landry, adding yet another to the list of the missing and the fact that Alice Doyle was caught near the school late one night and is being discussed as a possible perpetrator of the graffiti. All that and more coming up on Witherburn After School News.
Starting off with a football update, Witherburn had the kickoff and made it to the 30 yard line on their first play. They proceed to sneak by Magnolia’s defenses and score a touchdown on their.. fourth down. They then made their goal kick from the 30 yard line which is.. good, I think.
If I’m being blunt listeners, I have no idea any of the words I just said. I don’t understand football like at all. I mean give me soccer or basketball or any other sport but football? Always seemed too brutish and complicated for me, so these updates are going to be… interesting. I’m sorry in advance.
Our first real story of the night happens to be about the ever quiet and mysterious, Alice Doyle. She is currently being investigated for the strange graffiti that has been appearing all over town. The reason for this investigation is because Alice was found snooping around the school around 11:00 p.m. after the graffiti was found two weeks ago. The police found no spray paint or similar object on their person, just a notebook and a flashlight and a marker. Which the police claim could be used for vandalism even though the perp has only used spray paint in the past. Alice just claimed she was trying to see the graffiti and was simply curious, but the police department isn’t so quick to believe her. They claimed that Alice seemed to be trying to avoid security cameras and that she was wearing a similar black hoodie that the vandal was seen wearing.
Now listeners, I really do think they have the wrong person here. I mean Alice was caught only a few hours after my show aired and could have easily been trying to see the graffiti for herself before it was taken down. Also why would the vandal come back to the scene of the crime only like three hours after it happened? And cmon. Alice? Do we really think she’s capable of graffiti? She’s the quiet girl who sits in the back of class and is scared to do presentations. This is the same girl that hangs out exclusively with Robin, the student council president. And she is such a stickler for the rules that she once ratted out Scarlet Johnson for getting lunch off campus. Does she even have the ability to sneak around town and vandalize some of the local business? Why would she even do that when she’s literally the goodiest of goody two shoes? Personally I think it’s a stretch at best. If you want my honest opinion, I think the police are grasping at straws because they have no leads in this investigation. But I guess we will see where the police’s investigation takes them.
Our next story involves the town’s local lovable hooligans, the Merry Band of Misfits. After running a successful campaign to release Patricia the alligator, a campaign that I might add made national news. They have set their sights on a new issue. Homework. That’s right. This Merry Band suggests that the Witherburn Public School System ban homework. As of right now they’ve gotten their entire eighth grade class to boycott homework and it seems that almost half of the seventh graders are boycotting as well. Though they’re not stopping at a boycott. No, no, no, no. That’d be too simple. They are actually planning on bringing the entire eighth grade class to next Tuesday’s school board meeting to plead their case. They are talking about this protest on their social media which is gaining some traction and it seems that over 100,000 people are interested in how this will turn out. I do applaud the school board for their response. Though most school boards would hate the idea of kids being politically active, the head of the school board, Mary Travis actually made a video of support on her Facebook. And here’s that sound bite.
“I think it says a lot about the community of Witherburn that the children are willing to do this and I think the things it says are good things. Our children are excited to make changes in the community and they’re willing to speak up for what they think is best for them. I think these are all amazing traits. I can only hope my children grow up with this strong drive to make a change. I know that me and my colleagues are excited to hear what the eighth grade class has to say and will be sure to take their opinions into account when making our final decision.”
I never thought I would say this, but I think it’s going to be an interesting school board meeting on Tuesday. I am almost tempted to come, but sadly I seem to have homework.
Looks like it’s time for another football update! The score is currently 20 for us Turtles and 16 for the Bumblebees, so, yay! We’re in the lead! Though apparently the refs have been calling an absurd number of fouls for our team. A whole fourteen in comparison to Magnolia’s two. I have a list of what the fouls are. Um, fumbling, holding, roughing, peel back.
Yeah I have no idea what these words mean. Oh it seems like halftime is about to start. Wait. I’m being told there’s a fight on the field. Oh lord! It’s Bo and someone from Magnolia. They’re being pulled from the field and.. wow! Okay! I don’t know what happened, but I will try my best to give you an update before the end of halftime.
While I wait for news to come in, I might as well tell you about this week’s monster. Mr. Pickler was back at it again this week. He was spouting something a few night ago in the Bog Monster Bar about how he used to see river children when he was younger. Apparently they had skin like an alligator, green and scaly, and would swim through the water as easily as a fish. He claims he would only ever see them right before someone drowned. He also said he would hear them splashing and laughing late at night in the river. Once he got close enough that he could clearly see their face and they had razor sharp teeth and yellow glowing eyes.
Oh boy, this one was a deep cut. I think the monster that Mr. Pickler was talking about is the Letieche, alligator children of the swamp. There are a couple of legends around these guys, but not much information in the ways of books and articles. The legend seems to have started, as most legends do, with the indigenous people. From what I have heard, the first legend came from the Choctaw tribe of Louisiana, but many of the tribes native to the swampy area knew of this monster pre-colonization. Their legend says that the Letieche are children abandoned or orphaned by their parents in the swamp and that alligators took them in and raised them. But before you go and think that this is some jungle book type story, let me finish. These children lived with the alligators for so long that they became half human beasts with green scales and razor sharp teeth. Some legends even claim they have an alligator-like tail. They lost their humanity and started to hunt humans, flipping their boats and dragging them underwater.
Imagine the last thing you see is some freaky gator child trying to bite your face off. Scary.
Anyways when the French came to Louisiana, the story evolved to align with their Catholic roots. Instead of an abandoned child, the monster became the spirit of dead children that weren’t baptized before death, forced to roam around unable to get into heaven. This version also tends to be a little nicer since instead of flipping over your boat to eat you, the French version claims that the children are simply playing pranks and messing with you while they spend eternity in the swamps.
Now while this story is undoubtedly interesting, it’s also very very easily explained. Clearly this is just people’s way of dealing with alligators tipping over boats and dragging people under. Like many legends this one was probably told so kids would avoid danger. Sure, your kid might know not to mess with alligators, but this legend stops them from hopping on your boat like it’s no big deal. I mean it’s obvious people just wanted to give reasoning to slightly intelligent gators and rouge currents. As for Mr. Pickler he probably just saw some children playing by the stream. We do have a hippie group that travels by us a lot called the Rainbow People and I wouldn’t be surprised if Mr. Pickler just saw some of their kids playing upstream, so I guess the takeaway from this week’s legend is that humans will see things they don’t understand or simply don’t want to understand and claim it’s a monster, even when they see it’s very very human. As always thank you to Mr. Pickler for sponsoring Monster of the Week.
Okay guys, halftime is coming to an end and I have quite a few updates on the Bo situation. He claims that he heard this one guy from the opposing team make very… graphic comments about his girlfriend, Scarlett Johnson, who is a cheerleader. I am not going to say this on air, but trust me when I say it was disgusting. Bo heard this and apparently just saw red, which to be fair listeners, I can’t say I would be better. Though the player from Magnolia is claiming he said no such thing and that Stoker just jumped him out of nowhere. The Magnolia player has a couple scratches, but it seems that his cuts happened before the fight. Apparently the coaches are arguing which player, if any, should be able to play in the game. Coach McMillian seems to be defending Bo on this one. Saying, and this isn’t a direct quote folks, ‘I don’t support violence but people’s words carry weight. I can’t expect my players to stand back and let disgusting things be said about their loved ones.’
Which I think is completely fair.
Wait.
Y’all they came to an agreement and both players will be sitting out the rest of the game. Though both players will be allowed to play in future games.
Wow that was an interesting halftime, but now it’s back to boring football. Don’t worry I will still update y’all if anything interesting happens.
Now onto our main story. Jonathan Landry has officially been labeled as missing after almost a month of not being at home. He is a 17-year-old male, white and African-American, last seen in his sweatpants and school sweater. According to sources, the Landry family didn’t immediately report him as missing because he often leaves the house for a few days without warning, but after two weeks they attempted to report it to them police. Though it was the police that encouraged them to wait for another week and well, now we’re here. The police, of course, claimed that they did no such thing and that it was purely on the Landry family for waiting so long to report their missing child. Apparently Jonathan got in a fight with his parents and went on a walk on August 16th to blow off steam. The parents just assumed he was crashing at a friend’s house, specifically Chris Breckinridge. Though after two weeks of not seeing their son, they realized this was probably not the case. They checked Chris’s house yet he claimed he also hadn’t seen Jonathan in two weeks. Sheriff Sinanger claims that this is yet another runaway, but not like the copycat runaways. No, he said that Jonathan probably ran away to California or a similar state. To quote the sheriff’s statement, “kids these days all have the big dream, but not the right work ethic. They sit around and smoke all day and then they are convinced they can make it big in Hollywood. They leave their parents’ nice comfy house with $5 and a dream. In this case, $5, a dream, and a joint. Don’t worry. These types always come back.”
The Landries are claiming that the police aren’t looking for their son simply because he was caught with marijuana in the past. They are claiming that he isn’t just some young druggie who isn’t worth the time and effort of the police force. This recording was taken outside their house.
“There are three girls that have vanished, and now my son is gone. You can’t just ignore this. You can’t just ignore him. Why aren’t you putting him in the case file with the other girls? You just assume he’s a lost cause!”
Now listeners, I do agree there is bias in the police department of our dear town, but to be fair to them, there are apparently text messages that Jonathan’s friends have received from a burner phone claiming to be him and claiming that he’s currently hitchhiking to Colorado. I think that’s pretty damming evidence if I do say so myself. Now this doesn’t mean the police department should drop Jonathan’s case or anything, but I understand why they might put it on the back burner. Especially with everything else going on right now. And since the state police of Colorado have been called and are currently on the lookout for him. My regards to the Landry family. Best of luck bringing your son back home.
If anyone has any information about Jonathan and his whereabouts, don’t hesitate to report it to the police.
On a lighter note, Ms. Callaway’s flower shop Iris having a sale. Everything at the store is 50% off because she’s currently trying to clear out the store. The Stokers have apparently bought out all the lilies. We all know how much Ms. Stoker loves her flowers. But there are still plenty of options for the rest of us. You know how i feel about supporting small businesses so whether it’s getting flowers for your kids recital or your anniversary, make sure to swing by the flower shop this week.
We started this with football and we will end this with football. As is the American way. Even though Bo didn’t get to play, our backup quarterback did pretty dang good. He managed to lead the team to three more touchdowns while Magnolia only scored two which means… we won! Bam! Take that, Magnolia! Go, Snapping Turtles! The Golder twins are taking the team out for celebratory pizza and anyone from school is invited to join them. Apparently they are going to Rosemary’s which is just a solid pizza choice. Y’all I don’t enjoy football, but I do enjoy pizza so this is goodbye from me. Have a good weekend, Witherburn. This is The Reporter, signing off.
Witherburn After School News is written and directed by Jordan Oliver, edited by Francis Hughes. The title song is by Future Me. The Reporter is played by Jordan Oliver and Ms Landry is played by Francis Hughes.
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alexbkrieger13 · 7 months
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https://www.expressen.se/sport/fotboll/landslaget/det-vill-vi-inte-ha-in-i-damfotbollen/
Don't touch my fans, says Magdalena Eriksson. The national team defender reacts strongly to the taunts on social media directed at the supporter group "Soft Hooligans".
- We know what can happen at matches in the men's All-Svenskan and we don't want that in women's football.
Eriksson's irritation is rooted in a number of less pleasant comments on social media in connection with Sweden's Nations League opener against Spain (2-3) last Friday. Among other things, on a post from the Swedish Football Association's official account on X, formerly Twitter, where a clip from the supporter group "Soft Hooligans" marching before the match was posted.
- I get so tired, I get so tired. I was so incredibly happy and happy after the match. Not for the loss of course, but the atmosphere in the stands, how you heard them. The whole second half they sang behind our goal and "Soft Hooligans" have followed us for a long time, and have been our biggest fans and our strongest supporter group. We have a close bond with them so when I see that they get hate and criticism for their name or for what they stand for, then I get angry. Because then they attack something that is close to my heart, says Magdalena Eriksson.
Criticism such as that the women's national team's fans are not real supporters, she waves away. On the contrary, she thinks that women's football supporters generally stand for values that men's football supporters should emulate more often.
Magdalena Eriksson highlights, among other things, how the Swedish fans at Gamla Ullevi welcomed the Spanish players with applause and banners in support of their fight against their own national association, to get better conditions.
- It is also a reason why this supporter issue is so close to my heart. Because we have also heard a lot in men's football that there are homophobic chants, there is sexism and an incredible amount of hatred and antagonism. There, women's football has a history of being open, we must protect and maintain that. If you don't agree or support what we do in women's football, then you can just stay away, says Eriksson.
Linda Sembrant gets warm when she thinks about how the Swedish fans acted in Gothenburg last Friday.
- It was a moment where you felt pride in that way. We had already started to warm up when Spain came out.
She, just like Magdalena Eriksson, describes the importance of the support from the fans.
- It means an incredible amount to us, we feel that all the time when we play at home and above all, my feeling is that they always stand for the nice part of being a supporter. That's what we want, supporter culture and supporters who support us and who constantly behave in a good way.
The duo is supported by Sweden's national team manager Peter Gerhardsson. As someone with extensive experience from both women's and men's football, it is clear which supporter environment he now prefers.
- There is nothing in this that you need to be afraid of or anything like that. I think it's wonderful, says Gerhardsson about women's football's stand culture.
Gotta love this team
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The last of Mundane Pokémon questions people have asked recently
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My brother was curious to hear how ice type Pokémon work in this setting.
I haven't talked about them much so far because the answer might sound a bit boring: the "superpower" of ice types is simply surviving and thriving in cold environments. In reality that is definitely demanding enough, but yeah, it isn't nearly as flashy as bursting out flames or floating in the air. Their bodies aren't made out of ice or snow, they simply look the way they do in order to camouflage into their environment, and they don't really shoot ice out of their mouths either. Though a select few, like the tiny Snom, can spit out acid that in cold air feels like it's freezing your skin.
Ice type Pokémon can also be a rather depressing subject to talk about because of how badly they are affected by climate change. Their living environment is currently shrinking faster than most of the Pokémon can adapt to, which means that at least some of them are going to become extinct in the future. Some will likely survive in captivity and some might cross with their non-icy relatives to let at least their genes survive on, even if their species itself disappears. Some, like for example Cryogonal, are however so higly specialized to cold that things are looking very grim for them.
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He also wanted to know if there are "evil teams" like Team Rocket in Mundane and if yes, what are they like.
Pretty much all of the evil teams of the game series are based on real life in Mundane, but most of them don't have much to do with Pokémon. Team Yell are based on your average annoying football hooligans, Team Star and Team Skull are based on youth gangs that vary from rather benign to actually dangerous etc. They don't really use Pokémon more than their irl counterparts would use animals.
Then there's Teams Rocket, Plasma and the group of Magma, Aqua and Galactic. The latter three are based on fanatic religious groups that worship certain Pokémon. These Pokémon are usually legendaries and mythicals, meaning there's no scientific proof of them existing, but these teams do still believe in them. They don't usually cause harm for Pokémon, but they can for sure be bad for the people who get lured into their ranks.
What Team Plasma pretends to be like in the beginning of B/W games is based on extremist groups that think Pokémon should not be living together with humans, not for food production nor for companionship. They see their own actions as something that protects Pokémon, but in reality their means cause much harm for both people and the Pokémon they claim to help.
And lastly Team Rocket is based on wealthy, influential orginized crime groups like mafia. In some places these people are basically above the law and can therefore keep Pokémon that no normal person should ever have for clout. These Pokémon are often aggressive, large and/or rare and they are rarely kept in approprioate ways, causing them sickness and suffering. Sometimes the Pokémon do also escape, which can end badly for both the Pokémon and humans unfortunate enough to come across them.
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Can I point out real quick that Jedediah Shine has the ultimate stupid white guy Asian characters tattoo: 'honour' written in a character set that won't exist for another 60 years.
I'm sure it doesn't say what he thinks it says, unless he's a time traveler. (though that would explain why he and his Qing girlfriend are speaking Mandarin coming outta HK)
I would love to read a fic of Anachronistic Basic Bro Jedediah, football hooligan. Maybe he wears a trilby or has frosted the tips of his unwashed hair, iono. An image search of "chav Joseph Mawle" isn't turning up anything and I'm not English, help.
I'm extremely fond of this character (no pun intended), from his DC The Joker waistcoat to how he rolls a d20 every time he speaks to see if he should scream the next sentence to the amazing foil and wadded up ball of unresolved sexual tension he is next to Edmund Reid. Joseph Mawle, you're so awesome.
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so what’s the deal with your new blorbo? assume 1. i know how football works (used to actually watch) but not how/why some players get famous; (2) i know nothing about messi except that he. exist; (3) feel free to go bananas to your heart’s content if you decide to answer this.
fuuuuUUUUUUUQ ME. Can litchrally any Argentinian, any FC Barcelona supporter, ANYONE who has followed fuutyball for more than *checks watch* TWO WEEKS spot me for this one?!?! I am GROSSLY underqualified to answer this question Cunningham's law is about to hunt me for SPORT.
Okay. LIONEL MESSI. I can't summarize everything about this Guy who is currently one of the Main Characters of the most watched sport in the world, but I CAN summarize how he has started cooking my brain!!!
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(that is him!!!! my guy!!!! HIM JUMP)
I have been trying to read a book with @rhaeneystargaryen for at least a couple years now, but somehow never had the spoons or the right overlapping interest. And then she told me that she was reading this:
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I figured I would give it a try! I wanted something low effort, low investment, something I didn't care a whole lot about that I could put down at any moment bc work has been hell lately. And then I hit THIS line in the introduction, and I could literally FEEL the cursed hyperfixation key in my brain start to turn:
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GUESS WHICH ONE IS MESSI!!!!!
I'm not a twitter stan, I swear. I am AWARE there is a media layer here. These people are real, actual human beings with documented flaws and mistakes, I am WELL AWARE that they are ungodly wealthy pro athletes and not "stars who are just like us!!! ✨✨✨." It's also obviously reductive and unfair to view anyone solely through a comparative lens - no living being could live up to the marketing hype that has been generated around Messi, Ronaldo, or indeed any pro athlete in the elite leagues.
BUT GOTDAM IF THIS FUCKER DOESN'T MAKE IT HARD!!!!
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Bare bones: Lionel Messi is a football player born in Rosario, Argentina, who at 13yo moved to Spain to play for FC Barcelona. He joined the adult team at a whole ass 17 years old. Ensue absolutely RIDICULOUS teen prodigy meteoric rise, with both Messi and Barcelona winning all the Best Football Awards ever and Best Individual Sports Achievements in Everything. I have spent the last two weeks spending FAR too much time reading football books, and all the gotdam graphs look like this:
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People talk about Messi being the player who made them fall in love with "the most beautiful game," and I can SEE WHY!!! HERE I AM!!!! A CLOWN!!! ALSO FALLING IN LOVE!!!! I am googling sports highlight reels of his plays like a CHAD FOOTY HOOLIGAN!! WHO AM I, I AM HAVING AN IDENTITY CRISIS. It is just so much fun to WATCH him! Listening to commentators screaming "Eight, ten, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MANY DEFENDERS THERE HE GOES THROUGH THEM!!! MESSI GOAAAALLLLL"
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What makes it WORSE is the whole fukken rivalry business the book was about. Cristiano Ronaldo was another super-gifted player who debuted at about the same time and had a similar prodigy teen genius rise. He signed for a rival club in the same league at the same time Messi was playing with Barcelona. The story reads like a gotdam Hollywood sports drama, on both an individual and a team level!! I cannot IMAGINE what it was like watching this unfold as it was happening!
For starters: on an individual level, they were constantly thrown up against each other for every award imaginable. The Ballon d'Or awards list, which crowns you King of Soccer for the year, has looked like this since 2008:
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(there is obviously talk that Messi is up for an EIGHTH award this year, but I don't think about the future bc it is bad for my cooked brain 😊)
On a team level, there was (and IS) of course the clubs. I am ABSOLUTELY not qualified to get into the weeds on this, but the rivalry between Barcelona and Real Madrid has deep, deep political, historical, and cultural roots going back (among other things) to Catalonian oppression under the fascist Franco regime in Spain. Josep Suñol, then-president of FC Barcelona, was shot in 1936 by Francoist troops.The matches between the two clubs and the two players with their drastically different teams and styles at the time were super-charged - an ACTUAL QUALIFIED Barcelona supporter is going to have to get in here and explain the history and emotion behind the Clasicos bc THAT IS SEVERAL BOOKS IN AND OF ITSELF!!!!!
The whole point of THIS particular book was not, in fact, a blow-by-blow comparison of the players. The point was that by being WHO they were and WHEN they were, Messi and Ronaldo changed the shape of the game forever in terms of marketing, branding, team strategy, finances, etc etc etc. It's an interesting read (if not entirely unbiased on all points), if you enjoy the absolute blood and oil-soaked clown show that is professional football money!
But ANYWAY.
AFTER I finished the book Messi ended up cooking my brain bc (1) all of the context above re: rivalry in league football, and (2) his PERSONALITY. Someone made him in a lab to ruin my life!
I mean, the club loyalty gets me. For his entire professional career, Messi has played for exactly two teams - Barcelona and his homeland Argentina NT. He only left Barcelona in 2021, VERY much against his will (per him, his agent, his friends, his family, AND FC Barcelona) due to an absolute hot mess of a league financial situation that is apparently still sorting itself out. I don't know how common it is for pro athletes at his level to move around, but I feel like it's more common than that!!! THE CLUB LOYALTY gets me, the HOME LOYALTY gets me!!!! Especially as he's gotten better and better, and there's been more and more pressure on him to keep delivering even in the absence of anything else!
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The gotdam STOICISM also gets me!!! Call it shyness, call it humility, call it down-to-earthness or reservedness or whatever you want - what everyone kept mentioning about him in the books (and what certain French marketing departments are still probably saying about him) is how QUIET he is. Journalists would complain about how he "made it to age 30 without ever uttering an interesting sentence in public." A Nike exec who lost a bid with his agent for a sponsorship waved it off by saying "Imagine how much trouble we would be in if Messi had a personality." Relative to his peers in the elite football world, he doesn't have a flash lifestyle with a huge entourage. He doesn't do a lot of press. He doesn't try to push a personal brand, even though it's a big chunk of income for wherever he plays. Even though he obviously COULD, he doesn't go around talking about Greatest Of All Time (TM). When he DOES give interviews he doesn't even talk super loudly. He keeps to his immediate family and his closest circle of friends.
AND YET. AND YET. ON THE PITCH, HE PLAYS LIKE HE DOES. He creates not just for himself, but for his TEAMMATES the way that he does! I realize that NO ONE gets an award for being a team player in a team sport, or for "not being as much of a dick as you could have been," but HE STILL HAS HIS HOMETOWN ACCENT!!! He dedicates his goals to his GRANDMOTHER! He met his wife when he was FIVE YEARS OLD, he has never had a relationship with anyone else ("It has always been Antonella, for me"), he has three beautiful kids, his teammates keep apparently falling in love with him and doing Intricate Rituals, I AM ENDEARED I AM ENDLESSLY ENDEARED
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Did I mention he is also very short? Allow me to mention that. 5"7 / 1.7 meters in pro-athlete world is PICK-UPABLE SIZE. Multiple reels out there of his teammates celebrating goals just by PICKING HIM UP it MAKES ME SO FOND
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(on an Intricate Rituals note, Messi's size and his evasive style of play has caused a lot of opposing team's strategy to be "make a cage, kick him as soon as you can and tackle often," which has in turn prompted a lot of specific protection strategies for him as a forward and also over-protective teammates :)))). WHICH OF COURSE COOKS MY BRAIN EVEN MORE YOU KNOW HOW IT IS.)
And that isn't even STARTING on his saga with the Argentina NT, which reads like YET ANOTHER HOLLYWOOD SPORT DRAMA that I cannot believe actually happened!
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Again, I am begging ANY Argentine to jump in here, I AM GROSSLY IGNORANT as to the history of this sport I got here two whole weeks ago how is this HAPPENING to meeeeeeee
My very basic understanding of the situation is that Messi has played for the national team ever since 2004, whenever he was on break from Barcelona. Over the years since then, Argentina (with Messi) has tried again and again to win the World Cup (and the Copa America), but consistently failed despite regularly advancing to finals. BECAUSE Messi was on the team, Argentina routinely and perhaps unfairly got billed as "favorites" to win, with criticism in the press being focused disproportionately on Messi when they didn't. I don't know how bad the situation in Argentinian media got, but even the western English outlets were picking it up. "Messi plays better for Barcelona than for his home country, Messi isn't Argentinian enough, Messi keeps too much to himself and doesn't sing the anthem,etc etc etc". Maradona famously commented that Messi was "a great person, but had no personality," and that it was useless to try to make a leader out of him because he caved under pressure (referring to Messi reportedly being sick from nerves before the world cup games).
(note: gotdam rivalry. Of the people named who would be better and more stylish leaders, Cristiano Ronaldo was up top )
The pressure DID get to Messi in the end - he issued a statement in 2016 saying he would retire from international football, but there was a huge home campaign to get him to come back to the team. Argentina still didn't win the 2018 World Cup (players of opposing teams said that their strategy against Argentina was not letting them pass to Messi). And so on, and so forth.
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AND THEN!!!!! 2021!!!!!
I THINK I HAVE POSTED FAR TOO MUCH ALREADY about the current Argentina NT for someone who, as I said, JUST ARRIVED AT THIS GOTDAM SPORT, but I'm going to make everyone look at these quotes again. These are quotes the team has given ABOUT MESSI HOW IS THIS REAL????
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Argentina would go on to win the Copa America - and then...well 🥰
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I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EXPLAINED THIS ADEQUATELY!!! I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE SUFFICIENTLY REPRESENTED THE DEGREE TO WHICH MY BRAIN IS COOKED!!! Did that mean anything to anyone???? I don't know!
HELL
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musicalmerlinian · 11 months
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Please tell me I’m not the only one who needs parallels between Ted Lasso and Everybody’s Talking About Jamie, because the Jamie Tartt and Jamie New comparisons are too real.
Supportive mum? ✅
Awful football hooligan dad? ✅
Dramatic af? ✅
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electricprincess96 · 1 year
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That SWSH post blew my mind! You know how people assumed Leon was a villain? Imagine that as a red herring, where people were skeptical about Leon and spread malicious rumors about him. When you meet him, he's so nice! This foreshadows how he's a pawn for a bigger game. Heck, in PokeSpe, Sonia's gym challenge is a sore spot for her. Imagine her investigating the foul play along Legends, because at least it'll have Oleana will spy on her, and find the legendary for Rose to use in his boss battle.
It would have actually been such a better story than what we got.
Like we keep getting 2 conflicting opinions about Leon, maybe Sonia holds a grudge against him and her perspective of him isn't great but Hop seems to think he's so amazing. Marnie tells you she's heard rumours about him but Rihan won't hear anything against his greatest rival because he's places Leon on this unbeatable pedestal that if it turns out to all be a lie what does that make Rihan without his goal of defeating Leon?
Sonia can see in Hop the same naive love for Pokémon that young Leon had and she's worried the Gym Challenge will change him the way she perceives it to have changed Leon so rather than her taking to us and bouncing her research ideas off us she takes to Hop. She sees Hop getting too cocky as he breezes through the Gym Challenges due to the match fixing until he gets a reality check from Bede. But the Chairman doesn't like that, he doesn't want Hop losing, even to his own challenger so when Bede is told to leave Hop alone he worries he's going to be replaced and overhears Oleana wanting to learn more about the research Sonia is doing and that leads to him destroying the mural in Stow On Side and getting removed from the Gym Challenge. He's picked up by Opal cause truth be told Opal never liked the way Rose runs the Gym Challenge. Doesn't like the fact some trainers are clearly favoured and others aren't. And she sees a prime opportunity to finally maybe make a difference in this whole corrupt system.
Likewise Piers wants Marnie to take over the gym and quit the Gym Challenge cause he knows she won't win and he knows Chairman Rose will go to great lengths to try and stop her and anyone else from ruining his plans, that's the real reason he sent Team Yell out to cheer her on, they aren't just there to stop other challengers they are there to stop the League Staff from stopping Marnie (and anyone else for that matter). Like how cool would it be if they from the start actually showed the football hooligans are causing trouble with the League Staff but it turns out they're just trying to maintain a fair competition.
And as you said you bring thr Doggos into this by having Rose ultimately force one of the dogs to fight for him since he doesn't care about tradition or fairness he wants his way to remain the only way and we have to use the other doggo to save it an defeat Rose. Then Leon promises a completely fair finals which he ultimately loses and he announces he'll restart his Gym Challenge so that he can prove to himself and the region that he wasn't a complete fraud, and to prove to Sonia and Rihan that he was worthy of being their rival.
All while Hop is having to come to terms with 1. His brother wasn't this unbeatable champion and it was mostly fake and 2. He was almost swept up in the exact same scheme and if it hadn't been for Bede, Marnie and the player he absolutely would have been and 3. I'd add that maybe Hop admits he actually doesn't enjoy battling that much, he likes it but he only really wanted to be Champion cause of how much he looked up to Leon but over the course of his Gym Challenge he's came to really admire Sonia and her quick thinking and deep thirst for knowledge and the truth thus he wants to study to be a Pokémon Professor rather than a Pokémon Trainer now that he's finally able to see past his hero worship of Leon.
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